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(Guardian)   The NSA spent millions of dollars to not spy on you any more   (theguardian.com) divider line 20
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1119 clicks; posted to Politics » on 23 Aug 2013 at 6:18 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-08-23 06:23:17 PM  
Natch!

Freedom isn't free!
 
2013-08-23 06:32:11 PM  
I don't want to alarm anyone, but it appears that the Intelligence community may have squandered some taxpayer dollars. Try not to freak out.
 
2013-08-23 06:39:31 PM  
But it was spent on private companies, not poor people. That makes it okay.
 
2013-08-23 07:00:11 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: I don't want to alarm anyone, but it appears that the Intelligence community may have squandered some taxpayer dollars. Try not to freak out.


I don't even want to speculate what the "Black Budget" is these days.
 
2013-08-23 07:14:32 PM  

Aristocles: Natch!

Freedom isn't free!


Mother of God! You are so BOOORRRIIINNNG........
At least try to be funny or creative.
Try a Stoparrestingme thing or something.
Post some funny pictures.
Claim you work for the CIA.
Get a f*ckying shlick because you are boring me to death.
 
2013-08-23 07:41:37 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-23 08:09:07 PM  

2wolves: UrukHaiGuyz: I don't want to alarm anyone, but it appears that the Intelligence community may have squandered some taxpayer dollars. Try not to freak out.

I don't even want to speculate what the "Black Budget" is these days.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/07/news/economy/nsa-surveillance-cost/i nd ex.html

Aftergood estimates about 14% of the country's total intelligence budget -- or about $10 billion -- goes to the NSA.
 
2013-08-23 09:49:12 PM  

HempHead: 2wolves: UrukHaiGuyz: I don't want to alarm anyone, but it appears that the Intelligence community may have squandered some taxpayer dollars. Try not to freak out.

I don't even want to speculate what the "Black Budget" is these days.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/07/news/economy/nsa-surveillance-cost/i nd ex.html

Aftergood estimates about 14% of the country's total intelligence budget -- or about $10 billion -- goes to the NSA.


Throw in the NRO and a number of other jolly places and pretty soon you're talking about $90+ billion.
 
2013-08-23 10:03:23 PM  
They spent a lot of money and now the cat is out of the bag. So the strategy seems to be to just keep denying that they are spying. Just keep saying, "We are not spying on the American people."  The funny thing is that it just might work on the American people. I hope it works on the terrorists.
 
2013-08-23 10:10:19 PM  
Question is, who, ultimately, is sitting on all that information? What have they dug up and who do they now own?

I'm no fan of Scalia, for instance, but the thought of what power somebody might have over him after seeing what he uses the web for is far more scary than anything that crazy Sicilian ever said.
 
2013-08-23 11:17:40 PM  
They would say that wouldn't they?
 
2013-08-24 01:37:10 AM  
Well, all I have to say about that is ammonium nitrate pressure cooker revolution coup assassination militia tea party black powder air plane bomb.
 
2013-08-24 03:11:10 AM  
Isn't anyone reporting on this besides the Guardian? Why are they the only ones with all this intel? I get very suspicious when all the information only has one source.
 
2013-08-24 05:24:00 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Isn't anyone reporting on this besides the Guardian? Why are they the only ones with all this intel? I get very suspicious when all the information only has one source.


They broke it, it's their baby. But they're far from the only ones covering it. The Post and the Times have also had extensive coverage, amongst others.
 
2013-08-24 07:30:38 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Isn't anyone reporting on this besides the Guardian? Why are they the only ones with all this intel? I get very suspicious when all the information only has one source.


Because Snowden is only dealing with the Guardian (and I think the WPost in the US), I guess so he can carefully control what is being released.  He's not interested in releasing info about what the NSA is up to in China.

Hence the kerfuffle yesterday when the Independent leaked some info about a spy base in the MIddle East, and claimed they got it from Snowden's leaked documents (phrased in such a way people would assume he gave them the intel) and he's like "uh, I ain't had nothing to do with those guys, don't blame me for that."

Which leads to the question of where did the Independent get the info, is it actually from the documents Snowden has, how do they know that, who else knows that, and who has got something to gain by getting information that makes Snowden look bad to a newspaper.

/Things that make you go hmmmm
 
2013-08-24 09:11:57 AM  
It sounds a little like they are paying Google and Yahoo to spy on you. Wait, Google and Yahoo have denied this. Would they lie?
 
2013-08-24 10:32:06 AM  
FTFA:  A Yahoo spokesperson said: "Federal law requires the US government to reimburse providers for costs incurred to respond to compulsory legal process imposed by the government. We have requested reimbursement consistent with this law."

Does this mean that Joe's Butcher Shop can request reimbursement for costs incurred to respond to ObamacCare?

Can car companies request reimbursement for R&D related to higher MPG standards?

Can I request reimbursement of the money I pay to the accountant that does my taxes?

Or does this only apply to the NSA program-related providers?  And, if so, how is that justified?
 
2013-08-24 01:49:26 PM  

badhatharry: They spent a lot of money and now the cat is out of the bag. So the strategy seems to be to just keep denying that they are spying. Just keep saying, "We are not spying on the American people."  The funny thing is that it just might work on the American people. I hope it works on the terrorists.


It's certainly working on a lot of the Obamapologists on Fark.  Or they work for him.
 
2013-08-24 09:21:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Isn't anyone reporting on this besides the Guardian? Why are they the only ones with all this intel? I get very suspicious when all the information only has one source.


They are the only ones who aren't scared.
 
2013-08-24 10:44:52 PM  

Bucky Katt: Gyrfalcon: Isn't anyone reporting on this besides the Guardian? Why are they the only ones with all this intel? I get very suspicious when all the information only has one source.

They are the only ones who aren't scared.


lol...
 
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