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(National Geographic)   Even if things in Egypt aren't going great, at least they have their world class museums and ancient artifacts... oh, wait   (news.nationalgeographic.com) divider line 93
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2013-08-23 02:59:59 PM  
This should have been tagged "obvious," subby.
 
2013-08-23 03:01:00 PM  
Oh for farks sake.
 
2013-08-23 03:01:48 PM  
Yet Budge is still considered a "thief".

If it wasn't for the Europeans, so much would be lost, already.

Get your shiat together, Egypt!
 
2013-08-23 03:03:10 PM  
I'm glad they repatriated all those artifact back from the criminal Europeans...

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-08-23 03:07:21 PM  
Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?
 
2013-08-23 03:09:08 PM  
I feel a little ashamed that the looting of cultural treasures angers me more than the military coup and subsequent violence.  Am I valuing things more than I'm valuing lives?

Maybe it's because I figure that once a cultural item is lost, it's gone for good...but, we call always make more Egyptians.
 
2013-08-23 03:10:51 PM  

Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?


So does Christianity and Judaism.
 
2013-08-23 03:11:39 PM  
Dammit, where is Zahi Hawass during all this?
 
2013-08-23 03:12:21 PM  
Stealing tomb goods for quick resales has been going on for about 5000 years there. Every time governmental authority breaks down, in fact. It's practically their national sport.
 
2013-08-23 03:12:58 PM  
If anyone loots my bones 3,000 years from now, I hope they use them for something fun, like a skeleton at a Halloween party kegger. I'd be happy to oblige on that one.

Don't just tear 'em up and throw 'em around.
 
2013-08-23 03:12:59 PM  
I can't wait until the assorted curses kick in...
 
2013-08-23 03:13:02 PM  
Hopefully the Egyptian military will post some guards at remaining museums and cultural treasures.  They have to realize that a major part of the Egyptian economy is tourism, and if these treasures are lost, a lot of that tourism is going to go away once things settle down.
 
2013-08-23 03:13:10 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?

So does Christianity and Judaism.


There are different flavors of Christianity. Catholics, for one, have no problem with a depiction of Our Lord and Savior on the Cross.
 
2013-08-23 03:14:17 PM  

Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?


This.  There were clerics calling for the destruction of the pyramids and Sphinx as soon as the MB took power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJE6wUm-cA
 
2013-08-23 03:14:30 PM  

Mikey1969: I can't wait until the assorted curses kick in...


Take a look at the current state of affairs.  I'd say they already have.
 
2013-08-23 03:14:56 PM  
Just like Iraq. We really have to stop overthrowing dictators. They're the only ones who can keep their animal-like citizens in line. One they go, anarchy breaks out.
 
2013-08-23 03:15:02 PM  
This is why Britain and France will never return the artifacts they have "collected". They are better cared for than they ever would be in their home countries.
 
2013-08-23 03:15:19 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: If anyone loots my bones 3,000 years from now, I hope they use them for something fun, like a skeleton at a Halloween party kegger. I'd be happy to oblige on that one.


I'd like to be made into soup.
 
2013-08-23 03:15:21 PM  
If you really love allah, you will destroy the pyramids.  Roll some artillary out there and get to work for allah.  Do it.  Please.  Destroy the last thing in your crapy sandbox worth visiting so we can write you all off finally and let israel do whatever it wants why we pay attention to reality TV.  More than half your country wants all of it destroyed so just do it.
 
2013-08-23 03:15:23 PM  
Good think most of the artifacts are in London.
 
2013-08-23 03:17:17 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Dammit, where is Zahi Hawass during all this?


He'll find a way to blame the West, and if and when the objects are recovered, he'll make sure he gets the credit.
 
2013-08-23 03:19:30 PM  

Walker: Just like Iraq. We really have to stop overthrowing dictators. They're the only ones who can keep their animal-like citizens in line. One they go, anarchy breaks out.


Man I really hope you're trolling.
 
2013-08-23 03:20:36 PM  

Walker: Just like Iraq. We really have to stop overthrowing dictators. They're the only ones who can keep their animal-like citizens in line. One they go, anarchy breaks out.


you have a mouse in your pocket?
 
2013-08-23 03:21:42 PM  

orclover: If you really love allah, you will destroy the pyramids.  Roll some artillary out there and get to work for allah.  Do it.  Please.  Destroy the last thing in your crapy sandbox worth visiting so we can write you all off finally and let israel do whatever it wants why we pay attention to reality TV.  More than half your country wants all of it destroyed so just do it.


Glass it all.  Everything from the Nile to the Indian border and from Georgia to the Indian Ocean.  There will never be peace.
 
2013-08-23 03:23:16 PM  
Stella causes brain damage...
 
2013-08-23 03:23:37 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?

So does Christianity and Judaism.


Yeah but those two don't generally do it anymore.

/american taliban excepted
 
2013-08-23 03:23:49 PM  
Muslims believe that history is "over". Nothing after the arrival of Mohammed matters, so why not trash the world?
 
2013-08-23 03:24:26 PM  
Pigs.
You can tell a civilization by how it safeguards its artifacts.

pigs.
 
2013-08-23 03:24:57 PM  

Walker: Just like Iraq. We really have to stop overthrowing dictators. They're the only ones who can keep their animal-like citizens in line. One they go, anarchy breaks out.


your username is brilliantly opposed to your comment.
 
2013-08-23 03:25:14 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?

So does Christianity and Judaism.


I'm fairly certain Iconoclasm has been out of style for a few centuries.
 
2013-08-23 03:31:37 PM  
The white man looted Egypt many moons ago and no one screamed.

/Yet when I go down to the graveyard and dig up corpses coffins, I get in trouble for desecrating a grave.
//Damn double standards.

///All praise Mubarack , as the new Dictator. You can barely see his puppet strings that are connected to Israel and the U.S.
 
2013-08-23 03:32:49 PM  

Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?


Islam denounces the worship of images, but since no one worships the ancient Egyptian gods this is hardly an issue.  The average Egyptian is very proud of their ancient history and this looting is a national tragedy and a terrible loss to the study of antiquities.
 
2013-08-23 03:35:05 PM  

orclover: If you really love allah, you will destroy the pyramids.  Roll some artillary out there and get to work for allah.  Do it.  Please.  Destroy the last thing in your crapy sandbox worth visiting so we can write you all off finally and let israel do whatever it wants why we pay attention to reality TV.  More than half your country wants all of it destroyed so just do it.


You do realize that just about all of the Muslim countries have preserved their ancient artifacts that predate Islam. The only country that did destroy stuff was Iran. Like the article said, this was mostly looting and that is because there is a high price tag has been put on anything from ancient Egypt by people from all around the world.
 
2013-08-23 03:36:57 PM  

eraser8: I feel a little ashamed that the looting of cultural treasures angers me more than the military coup and subsequent violence.  Am I valuing things more than I'm valuing lives?

Maybe it's because I figure that once a cultural item is lost, it's gone for good...but, we call always make more Egyptians.


Depends, would you think that no matter who the people are? I would certainly say that we value some people more than others. Based on nationality, race, income, etc. Well, maybe not everyone, but certainly a lot of people do.

Also, they are just things. Which means in theory at least they should be less important than people. I mean if we had to blow up the pyramids to save billions of people would we do it?
 
2013-08-23 03:37:13 PM  
You know what Egypt shoot the farkers. Any sympathy I might have had for the MB in Egypt just disappeared.
 
2013-08-23 03:39:03 PM  
I'm not sure whether to cry or throw up. Either way, I will always mourn the loss of priceless cultural artifacts. I don't think this is *worse* than the rioting, killings, military coup, etc., but I put it pretty high up the scale. For people to thoughtlessly destroy their own cultural history -- the history of one of the greatest, proudest, and longest-lasting civilizations on earth -- is just unspeakable. It's a loss not just to the Egyptian people, but to all of humanity.

I mean, seriously, Egypt. You came from THAT and now look at you. Maybe it's time for everybody to take a step back and get some perspective. How can Egypt, as a culture, embrace the ideals of a religion that pretty much requires it to destroy all evidence of its past greatness?
 
2013-08-23 03:39:32 PM  

Stile4aly: Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?

Islam denounces the worship of images, but since no one worships the ancient Egyptian gods this is hardly an issue.  The average Egyptian is very proud of their ancient history and this looting is a national tragedy and a terrible loss to the study of antiquities.


That's not what the radicals think.

Stile4aly: The average Egyptian is very proud of their ancient history and this looting is a national tragedy and a terrible loss to the study of antiquities.


Very true.
 
2013-08-23 03:42:45 PM  
This will not end well.

www.doctormacro.com
 
2013-08-23 03:42:51 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Hopefully the Egyptian military will post some guards at remaining museums and cultural treasures.  They have to realize that a major part of the Egyptian economy is tourism, and if these treasures are lost, a lot of that tourism is going to go away once things settle down.


Kinda of like how the US Army forgot to do in Iraq?
 
2013-08-23 03:43:59 PM  

gglibertine: I'm not sure whether to cry or throw up. Either way, I will always mourn the loss of priceless cultural artifacts. I don't think this is *worse* than the rioting, killings, military coup, etc., but I put it pretty high up the scale. For people to thoughtlessly destroy their own cultural history -- the history of one of the greatest, proudest, and longest-lasting civilizations on earth -- is just unspeakable. It's a loss not just to the Egyptian people, but to all of humanity.

I mean, seriously, Egypt. You came from THAT and now look at you. Maybe it's time for everybody to take a step back and get some perspective. How can Egypt, as a culture, embrace the ideals of a religion that pretty much requires it to destroy all evidence of its past greatness?


Monotheism ruins everything.

/trollface
 
2013-08-23 03:46:35 PM  
The US military should invade. They can protect these ancient artifacts like they did in Baghdad.
 
2013-08-23 03:46:47 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Aristocles: Islam mandates that Muslims destroy artifacts depicting Gods or prophets... even Muhammad!

Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan?

So does Christianity and Judaism.


Christians had the Reformation

Plus, in order to co-opt the pagans they had to allow a few hundred saints to prat to for specific purpose that the omnibus god wouldn't be suited for

Probably take another couple hundred years for a muslim reformation
 
2013-08-23 03:47:50 PM  

ongbok: orclover: If you really love allah, you will destroy the pyramids.  Roll some artillary out there and get to work for allah.  Do it.  Please.  Destroy the last thing in your crapy sandbox worth visiting so we can write you all off finally and let israel do whatever it wants why we pay attention to reality TV.  More than half your country wants all of it destroyed so just do it.

You do realize that just about all of the Muslim countries have preserved their ancient artifacts that predate Islam. The only country that did destroy stuff was Iran. Like the article said, this was mostly looting and that is because there is a high price tag has been put on anything from ancient Egypt by people from all around the world.


Uh Timbuktu got leveled by a bunch of Muslims and that stuff was built by other Muslims.  Wahabbist destroy everything
 
2013-08-23 03:49:12 PM  

gglibertine: I'm not sure whether to cry or throw up. Either way, I will always mourn the loss of priceless cultural artifacts. I don't think this is *worse* than the rioting, killings, military coup, etc., but I put it pretty high up the scale. For people to thoughtlessly destroy their own cultural history -- the history of one of the greatest, proudest, and longest-lasting civilizations on earth -- is just unspeakable. It's a loss not just to the Egyptian people, but to all of humanity.

I mean, seriously, Egypt. You came from THAT and now look at you. Maybe it's time for everybody to take a step back and get some perspective. How can Egypt, as a culture, embrace the ideals of a religion that pretty much requires it to destroy all evidence of its past greatness?


This. The looting and selling I kinda get. The burning and destruction of ancient, unstudied articles, not so much.

It takes a certain kind of ignorance to do that. I hope the curses on those artifacts are real and bite them in the ass.

/even if its just psychosomatic
 
2013-08-23 03:52:46 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: a major part of the Egyptian economy was tourism


FTFY.

On a related note, I feel very annoyed that I was one of the people saying "well, just because they're called the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't mean they are ultra-religious assholes"... as it turns out, many of them did actually want to turn Egypt into a total shiathole where nobody reads anything but the Quran and women are executed in the street.  Not that that excuses the army machine-gunning their sit-ins, because I think that's just the army taking an opportunity to murder people they don't like.
 
2013-08-23 03:55:13 PM  

eraser8: I feel a little ashamed that the looting of cultural treasures angers me more than the military coup and subsequent violence.  Am I valuing things more than I'm valuing lives?

Maybe it's because I figure that once a cultural item is lost, it's gone for good...but, we call always make more Egyptians.


You are not alone....
 
2013-08-23 03:57:43 PM  
Why is this in the politics tab? Article isn't stupid enough to belong there.
 
2013-08-23 03:57:53 PM  

gglibertine: I'm not sure whether to cry or throw up. Either way, I will always mourn the loss of priceless cultural artifacts. I don't think this is *worse* than the rioting, killings, military coup, etc., but I put it pretty high up the scale. For people to thoughtlessly destroy their own cultural history -- the history of one of the greatest, proudest, and longest-lasting civilizations on earth -- is just unspeakable. It's a loss not just to the Egyptian people, but to all of humanity.

I mean, seriously, Egypt. You came from THAT and now look at you. Maybe it's time for everybody to take a step back and get some perspective. How can Egypt, as a culture, embrace the ideals of a religion that pretty much requires it to destroy all evidence of its past greatness?


If you look at history, the Copts are the true descendants of the  Egyptians. The arab immigrants just bred faster and more prolifically.
 
2013-08-23 03:58:08 PM  

eraser8: I feel a little ashamed that the looting of cultural treasures angers me more than the military coup and subsequent violence.  Am I valuing things more than I'm valuing lives?

Maybe it's because I figure that once a cultural item is lost, it's gone for good...but, we call always make more Egyptians.


The truth is that the objects in those museums are objectively more valuable than the lives of the Islamists dying in the street.  If anything, the world is made better by their deaths.

Muslims breed as well as the poorest of poor white trash.  Ancient artifacts, once lost, are gone forever.
 
2013-08-23 03:59:00 PM  

sheep snorter: Yet when I go down to the graveyard and dig up corpses coffins, I get in trouble for desecrating a grave.


And to think, If I were to have him killed I would be the one to go to jail!
www.mspmentor.net
 
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