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2013-08-23 03:01:10 PM
9/10 trolling effort on the last line of the 'article'.
 
2013-08-23 03:04:16 PM
I'm sure that most of what people thought was there never existed at all. Maybe the super classified projects have been moved elsewhere. Maybe not- the reason Groom Lake was such a good place for things was because the fed.gov owns all the land around it and it's so far out in the boonies that anybody trying to spy on the place is easily discovered. Everybody knew the place was there years before now... and I'd even bet money that the Soviet Union (back in the Cold War days) knew more about what went on there than we even know today. So in that case, why bother moving stuff around? It is still a decent test range.
 
2013-08-23 03:10:53 PM
They declassified Area 51 because all the cool stuff was moved. has already been in operation for 3 decades

fixed for you
 
2013-08-23 03:11:15 PM

akula: I'm sure that most of what people thought was there never existed at all. Maybe the super classified projects have been moved elsewhere. Maybe not- the reason Groom Lake was such a good place for things was because the fed.gov owns all the land around it and it's so far out in the boonies that anybody trying to spy on the place is easily discovered. Everybody knew the place was there years before now... and I'd even bet money that the Soviet Union (back in the Cold War days) knew more about what went on there than we even know today. So in that case, why bother moving stuff around? It is still a decent test range.


The enormous amount of natural cloud cover also helps obscure the base from cold war era satellites. That's also without mentioning the lakebed itself is an incredible natural camouflage for that massive runway.

Honestly I hope this opens up the areas around the base so you can go explore. I actually went out to the border of the base's restricted zone with my wife a couple years ago. That area is amazingly beautiful. I wanted to go deeper and check it out only because the view was just jaw dropping. 

Sadly the armed dudes in camo gear driving around in silver chevy's and keeping an eye on us through the insane amount of tripod mounted cameras and microphones were making that completely impossible. That place is wired with surveillance that makes Fort Knox look like Chuck E Cheese.
 
2013-08-23 03:17:41 PM
Hangar 18 in Dayton, still locked up tight.
 
2013-08-23 03:20:11 PM

The Muthaship: Hangar 18 in Dayton, still locked up tight.


No, they've moved Dayton. Nothing to see there anymore, either.
 
2013-08-23 03:20:37 PM
There is this cute little mountain in NM, next to Sandia Labs.
it's got a cute little fence around it.
And for a cute little mountain, it has an odd little exhaust port on it.
 
2013-08-23 03:24:32 PM

Ecobuckeye: The Muthaship: Hangar 18 in Dayton, still locked up tight.

No, they've moved Dayton. Nothing to see there anymore, either.


Did they put it next to Detroit where it belongs?

/Dayton native
 
2013-08-23 03:25:58 PM
Also something about the funding has dried up, which was used to release the now unclassified documents. So release a shiatload and go to the unemployment office afterwards.

/And you thought all these releases were just to cover up all the realizations about the NSA
 
2013-08-23 03:26:26 PM

Ecobuckeye: The Muthaship: Hangar 18 in Dayton, still locked up tight.

No, they've moved Dayton. Nothing to see there anymore, either.


They moved the city? Wondered why my commute to Miamisburg was so fast...
 
2013-08-23 03:26:49 PM

vudukungfu: There is this cute little mountain in NM, next to Sandia Labs.
it's got a cute little fence around it.
And for a cute little mountain, it has an odd little exhaust port on it.


Clearly it is the lair of a James Bond villain. 

Duhhhhhh.
 
2013-08-23 03:41:23 PM

akula: I'm sure that most of what people thought was there never existed at all. Maybe the super classified projects have been moved elsewhere. Maybe not- the reason Groom Lake was such a good place for things was because the fed.gov owns all the land around it and it's so far out in the boonies that anybody trying to spy on the place is easily discovered. Everybody knew the place was there years before now... and I'd even bet money that the Soviet Union (back in the Cold War days) knew more about what went on there than we even know today. So in that case, why bother moving stuff around? It is still a decent test range.


Also, the nature of the military's super secret projects have changed. It is now being done in highly secure labs and on computers. They don't have large aircraft they have to hide in operation.

But I suspect either security will be maintained at a high enough level that secret projects can still be run at there or at alternate sites (be it in the US or a foreign country), if they start developing new highly secretive aircraft. It isn't like Area 51 was a secret.

Plus you always have the decades old "theory" that Area 51 is a decoy and there is an actual secret base they used for the real goof stuff. It isn't like this speculation is new.
 
2013-08-23 03:48:58 PM
Dumbest thing I've ever read.
Area 51 was named that because that was its name on the old Atomic Energy Commission/Department of Energy maps back in the day. Area 52 would be adjacent to Area 51.

/Tonopah, ftw.
 
2013-08-23 03:53:44 PM

Strategeryz0r: The enormous amount of natural cloud cover also helps obscure the base from cold war era satellites.


whut.

It's the Nevada desert. Clouds, wtf. It has the same amount of clouds as anywhere else out there.
And how do Cold War satellites monitor the present day base?
Are they time-travelling satellites?
 
2013-08-23 04:01:38 PM

vudukungfu: There is this cute little mountain in NM, next to Sandia Labs.
it's got a cute little fence around it.
And for a cute little mountain, it has an odd little exhaust port on it.


Might that be Manzano Base? It had three fences around it, and had all kinds of fun little storage bunkers cut into it. It used to be one of the first nuclear weapon storage depots. I think they've moved all the weapons out to a new storage facility at Kirkland AFB.
 
2013-08-23 04:04:34 PM
Hey they left something behind, let's check it out.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-08-23 04:05:35 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Strategeryz0r: The enormous amount of natural cloud cover also helps obscure the base from cold war era satellites.

whut.

It's the Nevada desert. Clouds, wtf. It has the same amount of clouds as anywhere else out there.
And how do Cold War satellites monitor the present day base?
Are they time-travelling satellites?


It's in a gigantic bowl. Seriously the most ominous thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Driving through Nevada and seeing clear blue skies, but the closer you get to where groom lake is, it looks like a swirling vortex of thick clouds. 

Cold war era satellites as in that's the era that base was supposedly most active, and one of the main things they were considering when selecting the location.
 
2013-08-23 04:07:35 PM
Area 52 is PEOPLE! Also, they've already moved them out to the asteroids. Nothing to see here.
 
2013-08-23 04:14:40 PM
It's funny to read what all of you have typed. It's silly.

Take it from me, there's things out there that make other things seem normal.

And those normal thing? Man, all I can say is "she-male".
 
2013-08-23 04:16:25 PM

oldweasel: Ecobuckeye: The Muthaship: Hangar 18 in Dayton, still locked up tight.

No, they've moved Dayton. Nothing to see there anymore, either.

They moved the city? Wondered why my commute to Miamisburg was so fast...


The western side of town has been pretty scary for several years now.

/make a visit out there once a year.
 
2013-08-23 04:18:28 PM

Ranger Joe: Might that be Manzano Base? It had three fences around it, and had all kinds of fun little storage bunkers cut into it. It used to be one of the first nuclear weapon storage depots. I think they've moved all the weapons out to a new storage facility at Kirkland AFB.


five fences. (5)
two outside and two inside and one in the middle that will arc out 7 feet and fry you in place.
I've seen it in action.
I have the interior of that mountain memorized.
I was there for a few years.
I should tell you about the time I went to see the "alien" they had there.
 
2013-08-23 04:22:31 PM

akula: I'm sure that most of what people thought was there never existed at all. Maybe the super classified projects have been moved elsewhere. Maybe not- the reason Groom Lake was such a good place for things was because the fed.gov owns all the land around it and it's so far out in the boonies that anybody trying to spy on the place is easily discovered. Everybody knew the place was there years before now... and I'd even bet money that the Soviet Union (back in the Cold War days) knew more about what went on there than we even know today. So in that case, why bother moving stuff around? It is still a decent test range.


The USSR definitely did know more than Americans. Groom lake and it's coordinates were given agreed to 'sattelite fly over' priviliges in the mid 20th. So the US 'enemy' was trusted more than US Citizens.

I just hope that now the people who worked there and got cancer from all the open air toxic waste burning can have their day in court again. In the 90s it was thrown out of court because the government told the court the facility did not exist.
 
2013-08-23 04:28:26 PM

vudukungfu: Ranger Joe: Might that be Manzano Base? It had three fences around it, and had all kinds of fun little storage bunkers cut into it. It used to be one of the first nuclear weapon storage depots. I think they've moved all the weapons out to a new storage facility at Kirkland AFB.

five fences. (5)
two outside and two inside and one in the middle that will arc out 7 feet and fry you in place.
I've seen it in action.
I have the interior of that mountain memorized.
I was there for a few years.
I should tell you about the time I went to see the "alien" they had there.


Bob Lazar ladies and gentlemen.
 
2013-08-23 04:36:43 PM

Strategeryz0r: Bob Lazar ladies and gentlemen.


you want the story or not?
 
2013-08-23 04:39:23 PM

vudukungfu: Strategeryz0r: Bob Lazar ladies and gentlemen.

you want the story or not?


Sure, I like stories.
 
2013-08-23 04:40:20 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Dumbest thing I've ever read.
Area 51 was named that because that was its name on the old Atomic Energy Commission/Department of Energy maps back in the day. Area 52 would be adjacent to Area 51.


The numbers were originally for different bombing ranges. I assume the DOE just followed suit. The strange designs on the ground which mystify people are often just bombing and calibration markers.

And ever since 'Area 51' was dragged through the courts for exposing workers to deadly chemicals and radiation, most notably burning radioactive material in a big pit, it's been public knowledge. Although they still denied it existed to the gullible. No way to tell how much they use it anymore since most activity is underground, and they've lied about closing it several times only to build more things there. They seem to at least still use the enormous runway for test flights, but Dulce and other underground bases are where the really cool stuff goes on now, if you believe the lore. There's allegedly a ridiculous amount of underground bases across the US, all connected with mag-lev tubes which can transport people and things quickly. Again, if you believe the lore.
 
2013-08-23 04:44:07 PM

J. Frank Parnell: HotIgneous Intruder: Dumbest thing I've ever read.
Area 51 was named that because that was its name on the old Atomic Energy Commission/Department of Energy maps back in the day. Area 52 would be adjacent to Area 51.

The numbers were originally for different bombing ranges. I assume the DOE just followed suit. The strange designs on the ground which mystify people are often just bombing and calibration markers.

And ever since 'Area 51' was dragged through the courts for exposing workers to deadly chemicals and radiation, most notably burning radioactive material in a big pit, it's been public knowledge. Although they still denied it existed to the gullible. No way to tell how much they use it anymore since most activity is underground, and they've lied about closing it several times only to build more things there. They seem to at least still use the enormous runway for test flights, but Dulce and other underground bases are where the really cool stuff goes on now, if you believe the lore. There's allegedly a ridiculous amount of underground bases across the US, all connected with mag-lev tubes which can transport people and things quickly. Again, if you believe the lore.


And the Janet flights. Can't forget about those. Every time some big UFO thing goes down, one of those conveniently shows up in the local airport.
 
2013-08-23 04:47:13 PM

vudukungfu: Ranger Joe: Might that be Manzano Base? It had three fences around it, and had all kinds of fun little storage bunkers cut into it. It used to be one of the first nuclear weapon storage depots. I think they've moved all the weapons out to a new storage facility at Kirkland AFB.

five fences. (5)
two outside and two inside and one in the middle that will arc out 7 feet and fry you in place.
I've seen it in action.
I have the interior of that mountain memorized.
I was there for a few years.
I should tell you about the time I went to see the "alien" they had there.


Yes! Yes, you should!
 
2013-08-23 04:47:26 PM

Strategeryz0r: And the Janet flights. Can't forget about those. Every time some big UFO thing goes down, one of those conveniently shows up in the local airport.


New to me. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
 
2013-08-23 04:51:39 PM

vudukungfu: Strategeryz0r: Bob Lazar ladies and gentlemen.

you want the story or not?


i1168.photobucket.com

I'm listening....
 
2013-08-23 04:52:54 PM
Oh kaaaaaay.

I was stationed there, and having been there a few years, knew things. How to get in. How to get out. How to defeat the security. I was security. But we were everywhere. Always patrolling. Always alert. For what? No one knew. Terrorists, I guess. But there was nothing but tumbleweeds and coyotes. Jackrabbits, lizards, and wasps. It was a cursed place. I had heard that first hand from natives on reservations where I visited with elders on my days off. A cursed place. I also got in my hand the original blueprints of the entire place. They were just lying in an old abandoned office, and I happened to find them. Nice, But I also had heard about the "alien" we had allegedly stored there. I found out which huge blast door it was hidden behind and down which corridor. I planned for two years with my partner, sworn to secrecy that we would be able to get in , look around, and get out in 30 seconds. This was going to be a mission impossible. In, out, and not say anything to anyone about what we saws. Sworn to secrecy. We had bicycles smuggled in so we could fly down the darkened corridors in the underground city where the lights were never on after they stopped using that part in the 1950. We stashed them in an abandoned bathroom with a plywood sheet over the front. Our plan was to sneak down to the bathroom on break, ride the bikes to the door, pick the lock and go in quick and quiet with a flashlight in one hand and a baggie of baking powder in the other, wearing gloves. The baking powder was to scatter to the wind just as we left to replace any dust, cover our foot prints. Well, the week before we were going to go in, my partner got busted and being on a strict timetable what with having to surf the ebbs in security, I had to train a new guy fast. Day of the big look-see, we take our break, telling central security control we need a shade break. Time to get rehydrated, and out of the sun for a bit. They let us come inside. We had been patrolling outside in the hot sun all day.  We raced to the bathroom, got the bikes out of the stalls, and pedaled like madmen to the door. Raked the old master lock like pros, and creaked open the door. No flashlights on yet, not until we are inside and have reclosed the door. That is the plan. Well, wouldn't you know it but as soon as we get in, my newbie partner knocks a farking phone off the wall. This little light comes on and you can hear it ringing on the other end. It' loud as fark in that concrete domed room and only that little light it on on top of the phone. Well, I grab it and hear on the other end, "..uh...hello?" and then I say, "meep lorp gripple nablosfth. Kleepshink. " and hang up, then scatter the dust and we relock the door and run. The jig is up. Time is not on our side. We make it back to the bathroom and are stashing our bikes when we hear the boots tromping down the hall. A SART team is on the way. We sneaked up to the plywood with our own M-16s and waited for them to just pas before joining them quietly from the rear. They halted just before the turn to the "big door" They were afraid to round the corner. I'm like, "What are we stopping for? Isn't' this just another alarm response?" The sarge up front say, "Oh, you want to be the brave guy? You want to be the hero?" I go, " jeese guys, here, let me and my partner show you how it's done, and grab newbie and race around the corner yelling" Freeze you motherfarking green bastards!" and then we giggled our asses off. I'm like, "What is the big deal? It's just an old iron door from back in the day and it's all locked up" We all went back to the main hall and left for patrol.

The next week, the entire side corridor was bricked up. Overnight.
 
2013-08-23 04:56:19 PM
*bows*

and it's a true story, too.
 
2013-08-23 04:59:09 PM

vudukungfu: Oh kaaaaaay.

I was stationed there, and having been there a few years, knew things. How to get in. How to get out. How to defeat the security. I was security. But we were everywhere. Always patrolling. Always alert. For what? No one knew. Terrorists, I guess. But there was nothing but tumbleweeds and coyotes. Jackrabbits, lizards, and wasps. It was a cursed place. I had heard that first hand from natives on reservations where I visited with elders on my days off. A cursed place. I also got in my hand the original blueprints of the entire place. They were just lying in an old abandoned office, and I happened to find them. Nice, But I also had heard about the "alien" we had allegedly stored there. I found out which huge blast door it was hidden behind and down which corridor. I planned for two years with my partner, sworn to secrecy that we would be able to get in , look around, and get out in 30 seconds. This was going to be a mission impossible. In, out, and not say anything to anyone about what we saws. Sworn to secrecy. We had bicycles smuggled in so we could fly down the darkened corridors in the underground city where the lights were never on after they stopped using that part in the 1950. We stashed them in an abandoned bathroom with a plywood sheet over the front. Our plan was to sneak down to the bathroom on break, ride the bikes to the door, pick the lock and go in quick and quiet with a flashlight in one hand and a baggie of baking powder in the other, wearing gloves. The baking powder was to scatter to the wind just as we left to replace any dust, cover our foot prints. Well, the week before we were going to go in, my partner got busted and being on a strict timetable what with having to surf the ebbs in security, I had to train a new guy fast. Day of the big look-see, we take our break, telling central security control we need a shade break. Time to get rehydrated, and out of the sun for a bit. They let us come inside. We had been patrolling outside in t ...


But who was phone?
 
2013-08-23 05:07:16 PM

Strategeryz0r: akula: I'm sure that most of what people thought was there never existed at all. Maybe the super classified projects have been moved elsewhere. Maybe not- the reason Groom Lake was such a good place for things was because the fed.gov owns all the land around it and it's so far out in the boonies that anybody trying to spy on the place is easily discovered. Everybody knew the place was there years before now... and I'd even bet money that the Soviet Union (back in the Cold War days) knew more about what went on there than we even know today. So in that case, why bother moving stuff around? It is still a decent test range.

The enormous amount of natural cloud cover also helps obscure the base from cold war era satellites. That's also without mentioning the lakebed itself is an incredible natural camouflage for that massive runway.

Honestly I hope this opens up the areas around the base so you can go explore. I actually went out to the border of the base's restricted zone with my wife a couple years ago. That area is amazingly beautiful. I wanted to go deeper and check it out only because the view was just jaw dropping.


The wife and I are gonna drive around out there a little bit next year... judging from pictures, it looks very interesting, esp to someone who grew up his whole life around greenery.
 
2013-08-23 05:09:21 PM

vudukungfu: *bows*

and it's a true story, too.


www.dystopianmovies.org

/thanks for sharing if it is
 
2013-08-23 05:41:08 PM

vudukungfu: Ranger Joe: Might that be Manzano Base? It had three fences around it, and had all kinds of fun little storage bunkers cut into it. It used to be one of the first nuclear weapon storage depots. I think they've moved all the weapons out to a new storage facility at Kirkland AFB.

five fences. (5)
two outside and two inside and one in the middle that will arc out 7 feet and fry you in place.
I've seen it in action.
I have the interior of that mountain memorized.
I was there for a few years.
I should tell you about the time I went to see the "alien" they had there.



Then Against My Better Judgment I Went Walking Out That Door.

I Smiled At One Person Then I Nodded To Three More.

One Man Asked Me For A Dollar, I Asked Him, "What's It For?"

He Said, "I Have Seen Them." I Said, "O.K., It's Yours."

And As Featured On The MTV, The Local High School Lets Out,

And The Town Becomes Anarchy.

Parties Are Crashed, Skid Marks Are Measured.

The Story's In The Paper, You May Read It At Your Leisure.


Get Out.

Eject.

Escape From The Prison Planet.

Get Out.

Eject.

Escape From The Prison Planet.


And To The Tune Of A Billion Dollars, I Supplied To The D.O.E.

Some Tasty Little Nuggets Of Alien Technology.

And As One Might Expect, I've Been Harassed For Years.

The Men In Black Have Been Bending My Ear.

As A Matter Of Fact, They Were Just Here Today,

But I Escaped Them Through A Secret Passageway.

Once I Lived There For One Thousand Days.


Get Out.

Eject.

Escape From The Prison Planet.

Get Out.

Eject.

Escape From The Prison Planet.


I Have Plans For The Future, Guess They're Futuristic Plans.

Move Out West And Buy Some Desert Lands.

Maybe Up North, Just Past Alaska.

You Know Nothing Of This If They Ask You.

Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar's Coming Over.

So Honey Clear The Airstrip And Light Up That Stove.

By Jove, I Think It's Started. Oh Yeah,

Escape From The Prison Planet.


Billion People Harvest On Mars.

Rebuild The Remnants Of The Obelisk,

One Mile From The Pyramid.

Escape From The Planet Of The Apes.

Go Forth, Ad Infinitum.

Return The Relics To The Elephant.

And Atlantis Rises.


Get Out.

Eject.

Escape From The Prison Planet.

Ejector Seat Ignite.


Billion People Harvest On Mars.

Rebuild The Remnants Of The Obelisk,

One Mile From The Pyramid.

Escape From The Planet Of The Apes.

Go Forth, Ad Infinitum.

Return The Relics To The Elephant.

And Atlantis Rises.
 
2013-08-23 05:45:16 PM
UFO mythology notwithstanding, Area 51 is probably soaked in toxic waste.

Experimental fuels (both jet and rocket), exotic materials and the byproducts of making those materials... Area 51 was the one place in the country the Air Force and its most trusted contractors could dump the stuff that could not be disposed of anywhere else.

img2u.info
 
2013-08-23 05:47:10 PM
...oh and on a related note, I'd guess contractors and airmen who served there probably have a higher-than-normal mortality rate in cancer and unnatural causes. This might not really be a problem from the DoD's perspective, if you know what I mean.
 
2013-08-23 06:28:37 PM
Old news is old.

i6.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-23 06:34:34 PM
It's because the aliens have left
 
2013-08-23 06:40:30 PM

LesserEvil: UFO mythology notwithstanding, Area 51 is probably soaked in toxic waste.
Experimental fuels (both jet and rocket), exotic materials and the byproducts of making those materials... Area 51 was the one place in the country the Air Force and its most trusted contractors could dump the stuff that could not be disposed of anywhere else.
[img2u.info image 800x680]

And a whole crap load of radioactive fallout.  Nuclear bomb tests were done nearby, so wouldn't be surprised if there isn't more plutonium there than an Iranian nuclear facility.

akula: I'm sure that most of what people thought was there never existed at all. Maybe the super classified projects have been moved elsewhere. Maybe not- the reason Groom Lake was such a good place for things was because the fed.gov owns all the land around it and it's so far out in the boonies that anybody trying to spy on the place is easily discovered. Everybody knew the place was there years before now... and I'd even bet money that the Soviet Union (back in the Cold War days) knew more about what went on there than we even know today. So in that case, why bother moving stuff around? It is still a decent test range.

The Soviet Union used thermal imaging satellites.  Their diplomats used to have fun showing outlines of top-secret planes to the Americans.  The engineers testing said planes, after they found out how the Soviets did that, decided to have fun  by painting farked up plane shapes on the tarmac and heating them up.

The real juicy stuff is probably inside the old AEC files (the precursor to the Department of Energy).  And those are classified tight like nobody's business.
 
2013-08-23 07:16:24 PM

Strategeryz0r: HotIgneous Intruder: Strategeryz0r: The enormous amount of natural cloud cover also helps obscure the base from cold war era satellites.

whut.

It's the Nevada desert. Clouds, wtf. It has the same amount of clouds as anywhere else out there.
And how do Cold War satellites monitor the present day base?
Are they time-travelling satellites?

It's in a gigantic bowl. Seriously the most ominous thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Driving through Nevada and seeing clear blue skies, but the closer you get to where groom lake is, it looks like a swirling vortex of thick clouds. 

Cold war era satellites as in that's the era that base was supposedly most active, and one of the main things they were considering when selecting the location.


I don't even.
Dude, it's the basin and range province. The big bowl is a valley.
Runways stick out in the desert like dicks at a baby shower.
Anything you build sticks out like a dick at a baby shower, actually.
And yes, it was more active in the 50s and 60s, mainly with the operational flight testing of the U-2, A-12, and SR-71 spy planes. That's still a very remote area, but back then it was the far back of beyond.

You have an extremely cinematic view of the whole thing, which isn't really surprising.
I've been studying the topic for years, received numerous FOIA fulfillments, and visited the area numerous times. Been there, done that.
 
2013-08-23 07:20:42 PM

TheChaosPath: The wife and I are gonna drive around out there a little bit next year... judging from pictures, it looks very interesting, esp to someone who grew up his whole life around greenery.


It's interesting to poke around in the desert, but it's basically a waste of money, gasoline, and time.
Surfing this site is more interesting:
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/

You'll see more there than taking a pointless trip into the desert. If you drive up to the patrolled boundaries, you will risk detention and/or arrest.
 
2013-08-23 07:31:54 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: TheChaosPath: The wife and I are gonna drive around out there a little bit next year... judging from pictures, it looks very interesting, esp to someone who grew up his whole life around greenery.

It's interesting to poke around in the desert, but it's basically a waste of money, gasoline, and time.
Surfing this site is more interesting:
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/

You'll see more there than taking a pointless trip into the desert. If you drive up to the patrolled boundaries, you will risk detention and/or arrest.



I got chased out by the Wakenhut rent-a-cops on the black mailbox road.
 
2013-08-23 07:41:32 PM

BafflerMeal: HotIgneous Intruder: TheChaosPath: The wife and I are gonna drive around out there a little bit next year... judging from pictures, it looks very interesting, esp to someone who grew up his whole life around greenery.

It's interesting to poke around in the desert, but it's basically a waste of money, gasoline, and time.
Surfing this site is more interesting:
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/

You'll see more there than taking a pointless trip into the desert. If you drive up to the patrolled boundaries, you will risk detention and/or arrest.


I got chased out by the Wakenhut rent-a-cops on the black mailbox road.


Yeah, there are those guys, then the camo dudes in the white trucks. The camo dudes don't mess.
The dreamland web site has lots of intriguing food for thought.

I've stopped off at the Medlin mailbox a couple of times, too. [The unblack black mailbox.]
I had some awesome camping trips out in the desert to watch the night skies.
For a great read about obsessive Area 51-related desert rattery, try this:
The Hunt for 928
 
2013-08-23 07:44:43 PM

Kirk's_Toupee: It's because the aliens have left


I thought the US military was allied with the subterranean reptilian shapeshifters, and at war with various peaceful aliens. Things made sense that way. Now, now i just don't know what's real anymore.
 
2013-08-23 08:28:47 PM

dywed88: They don't have large aircraft they have to hide in operation.


Yes they do.  The big hangar south of the base, was only built in the last 5 years.  And the big earth berm that was raised next to it is in direct line with the runway and Tikaboo peak, so that base workers can't accidentally see what' in it when they get to work in the morning, nor hikers that climb Tikaboo peak to get a good view of the base.
 
2013-08-23 09:46:09 PM

J. Frank Parnell: if it is


it is
 
2013-08-23 10:00:16 PM

dywed88: Plus you always have the decades old "theory" that Area 51 is a decoy and there is an actual secret base they used for the real goof stuff. It isn't like this speculation is new.


Area 51 was really used for early testing of the U-2.  Since then, its distraction value has probably been immeasurable.
 
2013-08-23 10:33:32 PM

Dwight_Yeast: dywed88: Plus you always have the decades old "theory" that Area 51 is a decoy and there is an actual secret base they used for the real goof stuff. It isn't like this speculation is new.

Area 51 was really used for early testing of the U-2.  Since then, its distraction value has probably been immeasurable.


Area 51 is nothing more then a test bed for military aircraft (or was rather). Fact is I believe they moved it when technology caught up things like night vision etc. The whole point behind a "research, secret military base" is to keep things...secret?
I do know work still goes on in 51, from what I seen lately its engines and fuel based, there are some good reporters that keep an eye on the place not the typical UFO dreaming nut job.
I do know few years back a bunch of workers got killed when they were expanding facilities around area 51, mostly due to fact the buildings are air tight, I'm guessing they were expanding the underground area and the toxic chemicals or what not killed them, interesting to note the families all got a nice payout but the government never said a word about it.

I remember when infowars went ballsack nuts over that, trumping up every conspiracy they can find.
 
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