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2013-08-23 08:23:00 AM  
A year ago, I'd have said that with Zach Snyder at the helm, any Superman/Batman mashup would HAVE to be better than that last piece-of-sh*t Batman film. After suffering through "Man of Steel," however, I'm not so sure.
 
2013-08-23 08:27:21 AM  
Looking back on it, Keaton's Bruce Wayne was pretty bad.

Also, half the time his Batman just stood there during a fight.
 
2013-08-23 08:28:36 AM  
Never had a problem with any of those people being picked to play those characters. On the other hand there is George Clooney, Val Kilmer, Jessica Alba and Ben Affleck. Didn't agree with those picks!
 
2013-08-23 08:29:00 AM  
And look where Heath Ledger is now!

/Ledger is best live action Joker
 
2013-08-23 08:30:12 AM  
FTA: Short memories, noisy Batman fans.

Done in TFA.
 
2013-08-23 08:34:31 AM  
The talent and creativity that brought us "Gigli."

If Bob Kane wasn't already dead, he'd kill himself.
 
2013-08-23 08:41:39 AM  

spcMike: Looking back on it, Keaton's Bruce Wayne was pretty bad.

Also, half the time his Batman just stood there during a fight.


To be fair, that was before action movies became 20 minutes of dialogue, 15, minutes of wide shots of cities, and 60 minutes of wire fights.
 
2013-08-23 08:46:42 AM  
I'm looking forward to them bringing the nipples back on the batsuit.  It just seems so incomplete without them.
 
2013-08-23 08:48:40 AM  
Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms yo.
 
2013-08-23 08:49:38 AM  
You'll all be in line opening night so stop your phony griping
 
2013-08-23 08:50:16 AM  
Also, the bat suit Keaton had to wear wasnt too far removed from a medieval suit of armor. It took until the most recent Batman film for them to come up with a mask and cowl that would allow the actor to actually turn his head (a big complaint Bale had). So, mobility was a big issue, hence the action scenes with Batman just sort of standing around.
 
2013-08-23 08:50:37 AM  

Vodka Zombie: I'm looking forward to them bringing the nipples back on the batsuit.  It just seems so incomplete without them.


And why doesn't batman dance any more?
 
2013-08-23 08:51:08 AM  
But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.
 
2013-08-23 08:56:44 AM  

natural316: You'll all be in line opening night so stop your phony griping


Yep. Here's how it works

1. Movie from popular franchise gets announced, farkers say "Shut up and take my money!"
2. Casting decisions announced, farkers biatch that it's the worstest thing in the history of ever, there childhood is raped, and why didn't they cast some semi-obscure actor best known for a middle tier sci-fi show or Joseph Levitt
3.Trailers come out, farkers say "well, maybe it won't be so bad. I'll redbox it."
4. Farkers go see it first show on opening day and immediately afterwards, go online to biatch about the movie and post spoilers.

It's a scenario that's almost as predictable as gravity at this point.
 
2013-08-23 08:58:24 AM  
I am pretty sure the Affleck is going to suck as batman.  The only movie where he was the character, where he embodied it, where he was most believable was in Mallrats.
 
2013-08-23 08:59:35 AM  
It is, if nothing else, an interesting choice.  The issue with DD wasn't Affleck, it was Garner and the misuse of Elektra in the movie - or better yet, the fact she was IN the movie.  DD jumped right to Spiderman 3 territory with all the periphery super heroes/villans with Kingpin, Bullseye and Elektra.  If they had stuck with just Kingpin it would have been fine.  You could have had Bullseye show up later but throwing in Elektra was too much.
 
2013-08-23 08:59:58 AM  

stoli n coke: natural316: You'll all be in line opening night so stop your phony griping

Yep. Here's how it works

1. Movie from popular franchise gets announced, farkers say "Shut up and take my money!"
2. Casting decisions announced, farkers biatch that it's the worstest thing in the history of ever, there childhood is raped, and why didn't they cast some semi-obscure actor best known for a middle tier sci-fi show or Joseph Levitt
3.Trailers come out, farkers say "well, maybe it won't be so bad. I'll redbox it."
4. Farkers go see it first show on opening day and immediately afterwards, go online to biatch about the movie and post spoilers.

It's a scenario that's almost as predictable as gravity at this point.


Scientists at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory have determined that gravity isn't as reliable as what you've described.
 
2013-08-23 09:01:25 AM  

stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.


Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.
 
2013-08-23 09:04:12 AM  
Oh man, I've never enjoyed a butthurt thread like last night. Keep fighting the whiny fight farkers.
 
2013-08-23 09:04:36 AM  
Can Batman be rebooted as a Boston meat head? Everything will be fine if that's allowed.
 
2013-08-23 09:04:51 AM  
i don't see a problem with this at all.
 
2013-08-23 09:06:32 AM  

Carth: stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.

Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.



Cry moar.
 
2013-08-23 09:06:55 AM  

Carth: stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.

Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.


I would argue that they get more casting right in superhero movies than wrong.  The one thing that is certain is that there will be people biatching about the casting no matter what.

I remember all the biatching about Craig when Casino Royale was announced and I think he is has been the best Bond in the series.
 
2013-08-23 09:08:21 AM  
Affleck has improved considerably as an actor compared to his early career, but he's not Batman.  Unless he learns to do a Kevin Conroy impression before shooting, his voice alone makes him wrong for the part.

Batman is supposed to be brooding, cold, and scary, then a funny, drunken playboy as Bruce Wayne in public.  Affleck will likely do well as Bruce Wayne, but I can't see him as brooding, cold, and scary.  I just hope the casting isn't signalling a step back toward a campier version of Batman.
 
2013-08-23 09:09:30 AM  

stoli n coke: Carth: stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.

Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.


Cry moar.


As someone who still hasn't even seen Man of Steel I don't really care. I just find the idea that "fans can't be right about casting decisions" ridiculous. Yes they can be wrong but more of often they are right.
 
2013-08-23 09:10:29 AM  

Dick Gozinya: Also, the bat suit Keaton had to wear wasnt too far removed from a medieval suit of armor. It took until the most recent Batman film for them to come up with a mask and cowl that would allow the actor to actually turn his head (a big complaint Bale had). So, mobility was a big issue, hence the action scenes with Batman just sort of standing around.


Not to mention he had to deal with Nicholson's lazy, "Hey, I'm Jack Nicholson!" performance.
 
2013-08-23 09:13:30 AM  

Saiga410: I am pretty sure the Affleck is going to suck as batman. The only movie where he was the character, where he embodied it, where he was most believable was in Mallrats.


Dazed and Confused would like a word.
 
2013-08-23 09:15:54 AM  
Affleck is a good actor. He was great in The Town and Argo. It just seems like an odd choice for Batman.
 
2013-08-23 09:17:21 AM  
Site is blocked at work, any one care to share list?
 
2013-08-23 09:19:43 AM  
Can someone who played a Marvel character play a DC character? Have the fanboys weighed in on that yet?

/Affleck will always be O'bannion to me
 
2013-08-23 09:19:48 AM  

Carth: stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.

Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.


I started responding to this as if it were a real post. Then I double checked the box office figures and realized it was a troll. 8/10.
 
2013-08-23 09:21:00 AM  

Claude the Dog: Saiga410: I am pretty sure the Affleck is going to suck as batman. The only movie where he was the character, where he embodied it, where he was most believable was in Mallrats.

Dazed and Confused would like a word.


I forgot about that performance.   You are correct.  So two believable roles in his career.
 
2013-08-23 09:23:16 AM  

Onkel Buck: Can someone who played a Marvel character play a DC character? Have the fanboys weighed in on that yet?

/Affleck will always be O'bannion to me


Like Ryan Reynolds?
 
2013-08-23 09:24:47 AM  

redmid17: Carth: stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.

Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.

I started responding to this as if it were a real post. Then I double checked the box office figures and realized it was a troll. 8/10.


Halle Barry was the giveaway.
 
2013-08-23 09:25:19 AM  
They should do a Batman Beyond movie with this. They could cast Bruce Willis as Bruce Wayne, and Ben Affleck as his replacement Terry McGinnis as the new Batman. And they have to save Gotham from a giant meteor hurtling at them from space.
 
2013-08-23 09:25:28 AM  
I remember everyone flipping their sh*t over Daniel Craig and now I think he's the best Bond ever
 
2013-08-23 09:26:07 AM  
Can't picture "AJ" from Armageddon as Batman.


"Robin, I love you Robin!"

Really?

He should stick to working behind the camera.
 
2013-08-23 09:26:08 AM  

spcMike: Looking back on it, Keaton's Bruce Wayne was pretty bad.

Also, half the time his Batman just stood there during a fight.


Actually, I watched some of that movie recently and I think it's aged well.

It's not Nolan's Batman, but it's still a well put together movie.
 
2013-08-23 09:26:39 AM  

Carth: Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms yo.


Thread done, last one out turn the lights off...
 
2013-08-23 09:31:07 AM  

f4rmerbob: redmid17: Carth: stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.

Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.

I started responding to this as if it were a real post. Then I double checked the box office figures and realized it was a troll. 8/10.

Halle Barry was the giveaway.


I never saw cat woman. I didn't think McMahon did a bad job as Doctor Doom. I haven't seen any of these movies in years but I also remember Jennifer Garner saying she was embarrassed about Daredevil and Elektra.
 
2013-08-23 09:31:45 AM  

Onkel Buck: Can someone who played a Marvel character play a DC character? Have the fanboys weighed in on that yet?

/Affleck will always be O'bannion to me


I just had nightmares of the Amalgam Universe from the 90's.
 
2013-08-23 09:35:18 AM  
I'm thinking about it more, and he'll probably do alright.
 
2013-08-23 09:36:33 AM  
[N.B. We couldn't actually find a clip of Pattinson being impressive inTwilight]

That's funny.
 
2013-08-23 09:38:08 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: I remember everyone flipping their sh*t over Daniel Craig and now I think he's the best Bond ever


I didn't really understand that at all. It seemed the biggest gripe was "He's Blonde!" I was willing to wait for the actual movie before a judgement call, and Casino Royale was one of the best Bonds ever. QoS was shiat, but that wasn't Craig's fault.

/I need to watch Skyfall
 
2013-08-23 09:40:43 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Tat'dGreaser: I remember everyone flipping their sh*t over Daniel Craig and now I think he's the best Bond ever

I didn't really understand that at all. It seemed the biggest gripe was "He's Blonde!" I was willing to wait for the actual movie before a judgement call, and Casino Royale was one of the best Bonds ever. QoS was shiat, but that wasn't Craig's fault.

/I need to watch Skyfall


I also remember "he can't even drive stick!"

Can he act like he is, dumbass?
 
2013-08-23 09:44:34 AM  
This movie is going to suck.

It doesn't matter who plays who.
 
2013-08-23 09:48:51 AM  
bluenote13:

I remember all the biatching about Craig when Casino Royale was announced and I think he is has been the best Bond in the series.

Craig was great in Casino Royale, and it was a great flick... I just don't know if it was a great "James Bond" flick. It's probably partly nostalgia, but I prefer my 007 with a bit of Martini-soaked sly humor thrown in.
 
2013-08-23 09:50:19 AM  

thecpt: I also remember "he can't even drive stick!"


I remember that.  It turned out to be bullsh*t, a problem with the car IIRC.

I took a wait and see approach with Craig.  If I had seen Layer Cake, I probably would have been a supporter.  I took a wait and see approach with Heath Ledger, too.  But, Ben Affleck as Batman screams Joel Shumacher, and nobody wants that.
 
2013-08-23 09:57:59 AM  

bluenote13: The issue with DD wasn't Affleck, it was Garner and the misuse of Elektra in the movie - or better yet, the fact she was IN the movie.  DD jumped right to Spiderman 3 territory with all the periphery super heroes/villans with Kingpin, Bullseye and Elektra.  If they had stuck with just Kingpin it would have been fine.  You could have had Bullseye show up later but throwing in Elektra was too much.


While I agree with you on Bullseye and Elektra (Jennifer Garner was SO WRONG in that role), I must respectfully disagree on Affleck. He was a dreadful Daredevil, much too low-key and deadpan. He was boring in the suit and completely lifeless out of it. And the hair, my god, the hair! I'm pretty forgiving of film adaptations if i really love the characters -- and I've always had a soft spot for Daredevil -- but that movie just plain sucked from end to end.

That said, I think it's just possible he could pull off Batman... but Christian Bale is going to be a tough act to follow. Bale has a natural touch of madness about him that made him a perfect choice for a character as utterly, obsessively focused as Batman. Affleck has a lack of affect that *might* serve the same purpose... but it also might just make him as flat and uninteresting as he is in most of his roles.

Supes mostly bores me anyway, and I haven't liked a Superman since George Reeves anyway, so the whole idea of Superman + Ben Affleck leaves me cold. Not a movie I'm going to go out of my way to see.

What I really want to see, actually, is a totally camped-up, retro Dazzler, complete with the mirror-ball rollerskates. God, of all the idiotic superhero ideas, that has got to be the worst. And I say this as someone who picked it up at #7 and kept right on reading. Can we go back in time and cast Charo? Because that would be the awesomest thing in the history of awesome.
 
2013-08-23 09:59:42 AM  

bluenote13: Carth: stoli n coke: But if anyone knows film, it's random geeks on the internet. That's why Snakes On A Plane is the most successful movie of all time.

Yea, and people were saying RIPD was a crappy rip off of MIB and it went on to be the highest grossing movie of the summer. Not to mention how wrong people were about Johnny Depp in Lone Ranger. People thought it would just be him dressing up and acting weird again when in reality it was a role that challenged him creatively and will be nominated for best supporting actor.

And lets not forget how foolish internet  looked for making fun of Halle Barry as Catwomen, Julian McMahon  as Dr Doom, Jessia Alba as Susan Storm or  Jennifer Garner as Elekra. Studios always do a great job casting comic book movies.

I would argue that they get more casting right in superhero movies than wrong.  The one thing that is certain is that there will be people biatching about the casting no matter what.

I remember all the biatching about Craig when Casino Royale was announced and I think he is has been the best Bond in the series.


Anyone biatching about Craig had never seen Layer Cake.
 
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