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2013-08-22 05:08:16 PM
They could build it under budget if the pick up the workers from in front of Home Depot.
 
2013-08-22 05:10:06 PM
They should simplify the GUI

www.jesperjuul.net
 
2013-08-22 05:12:15 PM
Can't HAARP vaporize all the junk? What ever happened to inter-department cooperation?
 
2013-08-22 05:12:32 PM
What about all the aliens who get visas to come to Starfleet Academy and never leave?  But they're bipedal so the conservatives don't want to talk about them.
 
2013-08-22 05:14:38 PM
Built more than 50 years ago, the current system cannot detect most of the more than 500,000 pieces of rocket debris bigger than a centimeter circling the earth.  Those objects pose a tremendous threat to spacecraft.

The Air Force not only wants to get rid of the old space fence to save money but also to replace it with something better.


So the military wants to get rid of something that is incredibly outdated and costs a lot of money and replace it with something that actually works.  We can't award the new money though because of sequestration, though.  So now we will just have nothing.
 
2013-08-22 05:14:48 PM
So just increase the Space Patrol. Problem solved.
 
2013-08-22 05:16:59 PM

ArkPanda: What about all the aliens who get visas to come to Starfleet Academy and never leave?  But they're bipedal so the conservatives don't want to talk about them.


Insist that Starfleet only accept Amex going forward, problem solved.
 
2013-08-22 05:21:03 PM

ArkPanda: What about all the aliens who get visas to come to Starfleet Academy and never leave?  But they're bipedal so the conservatives don't want to talk about them.


They were delicious.
 
2013-08-22 05:21:22 PM
Before everyone gets all tin foil hat-ty.   There are still ground based radars, DSP satellites, SBIRS, and optical sites that are used by the U.S. Air Force to track space objects entering the earth's atmosphere.

/ .........and resume panicking
 
2013-08-22 05:21:32 PM
Maybe they need more of these thingys
i877.photobucket.com


Wow, that website is crazy
Totally blew my phone browser away
 
2013-08-22 05:24:59 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: Can't HAARP vaporize all the junk? What ever happened to inter-department cooperation?


I'll get some friends together and we'll get our guns then drive around and shoot at the debris.

/I think this system is more of a wide area tracking system whereas HAARP is an ionosphere research station - I'm not sure what it can do to space junk
 
2013-08-22 05:25:24 PM
Call these guys:
www.videomaivisti.it

digilander.libero.it
 
2013-08-22 05:29:22 PM
Step 1. Cut a hole in a box
Step 2. Put 500,000 pieces of junk in that box
Step 3.  Make her open the box

And that's the way you do it
 
2013-08-22 05:30:42 PM
Thanks China!
 
2013-08-22 05:32:09 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: Can't HAARP vaporize all the junk? What ever happened to inter-department cooperation?


Well, if you believe the press release, they cancelled that project a month or two ago..
 
2013-08-22 05:41:24 PM
THER GO OUR JURBS
 
2013-08-22 05:43:20 PM

Somaticasual: Pointy Tail of Satan: Can't HAARP vaporize all the junk? What ever happened to inter-department cooperation?

Well, if you believe the press release, they cancelled that project a month or two ago..


Disregard, they're just a little understaffed apparently..
 
2013-08-22 05:46:57 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: They should simplify the GUI

[www.jesperjuul.net image 400x300]


What would we need a GUI for? We need to track space junk, not IP addresses.
 
2013-08-22 05:51:06 PM
QATLHO' OBAMA
 
2013-08-22 05:52:36 PM
There is another, similar system. I've been st the Lake Kickapoo site. It's a pretty cool array.
 
2013-08-22 05:58:07 PM

DerAppie: Random Anonymous Blackmail: They should simplify the GUI

[www.jesperjuul.net image 400x300]

What would we need a GUI for? We need to track space junk, not IP addresses.


Never know when that might come in handy...
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-08-22 05:58:27 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: Can't HAARP vaporize all the junk? What ever happened to inter-department cooperation?


HAARP is for changing the weather and making earthquakes stoopid!
 
2013-08-22 05:58:49 PM
i1280.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-22 06:03:10 PM
Hmm, maybe they could just retask this:

www.aoc.nrao.edu

(Both that and the thing in TFA are about an hour's drive from where my arse is currently sitting)
 
2013-08-22 06:07:02 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: There is another, similar system. I've been st the Lake Kickapoo site. It's a pretty cool array.


Um, that's not a similar system... that is the system that's being shut down.  There are a couple dozen space fence sites stretching across the continent at the 30th parallel.  They are all going bye-bye.
 
2013-08-22 06:08:04 PM
Humans: so inconsiderate, we litter in outer space!
 
2013-08-22 06:12:12 PM

Thurston Howell: Um, that's not a similar system... that is the system that's being shut down


I'm not sure about that. I didn't see any reference to the TorC site in the WIKI and NAVSPASUR is a USN program. The one referenced in TFA is USAF. Hell, they might have been combined fr all I know.
It's a cool looking array anyway
 
2013-08-22 06:16:09 PM
 
2013-08-22 06:20:43 PM

asynchron: Hmm, maybe they could just retask this:

[www.aoc.nrao.edu image 600x390]

(Both that and the thing in TFA are about an hour's drive from where my arse is currently sitting)


That might not be a usable solution for something so close to the earth.
 
2013-08-22 06:22:50 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Thurston Howell: Um, that's not a similar system... that is the system that's being shut down

I'm not sure about that. I didn't see any reference to the TorC site in the WIKI and NAVSPASUR is a USN program. The one referenced in TFA is USAF. Hell, they might have been combined fr all I know.
It's a cool looking array anyway


NAVSPASUR was transferred to USAF's 20th Space Control Squadron nine years ago.
 
2013-08-22 06:32:23 PM

Thurston Howell: NAVSPASUR was transferred to USAF's 20th Space Control Squadron nine years ago.


Cool, thanks. Haven't thought of that site in years. If I'm not mistaken, the Kickapoo site is about 2 miles long. First time I drove past it I had to stop and look and really get a good look at it. Same with the old PAVE PAWS site near El Dorado, Tx.
 
2013-08-22 06:32:58 PM

groppet: Pointy Tail of Satan: Can't HAARP vaporize all the junk? What ever happened to inter-department cooperation?

HAARP is for changing the weather and making earthquakes stoopid!


If you believe the wackos, HAARP can do anything. Change the Earth's rotation, summon Jesus, even set fire to tinfoil hats.
 
2013-08-22 06:38:43 PM
www.wildsidepress.com
 
2013-08-22 06:39:36 PM

Thurston Howell: Dancin_In_Anson: There is another, similar system. I've been st the Lake Kickapoo site. It's a pretty cool array.

Um, that's not a similar system... that is the system that's being shut down.  There are a couple dozen space fence sites stretching across the continent at the 30th parallel.  They are all going bye-bye.


...and being replaced by something better that costs less.

scare tactics suck.
 
2013-08-22 06:44:29 PM
Clearly, we just need to order more tanks.
 
2013-08-22 06:52:54 PM
I like how the very Weeners on the article wishes for Obama's death by falling space debris.  When you're a True Patriot, you can't pass up any opportunity to call for the president's death--no matter how much of a non-sequiter it may be, apparently.
 
2013-08-22 06:57:56 PM
Nice, my first time being erroneously hit by the anti-"I'm first!" filter, heh.

"Weeners" = the first item in the comment section of the article.
 
2013-08-22 07:21:49 PM
I can't imagine that they couldn't divert the money from somewhere else. Maybe close an unnecessary base or something?
 
2013-08-22 07:28:32 PM

pedobearapproved: Thurston Howell: Dancin_In_Anson: There is another, similar system. I've been st the Lake Kickapoo site. It's a pretty cool array.

Um, that's not a similar system... that is the system that's being shut down.  There are a couple dozen space fence sites stretching across the continent at the 30th parallel.  They are all going bye-bye.

...and being replaced by something better that costs less.

scare tactics suck.


Scare tactics?  The replacement won't be ready until

2017, assuming that t

he primary contractor (LockMart) retains the good will of the Air Force and Congress, despite some very notable lapses in other, far more expensive programs (F-35).

There are other detection systems extant, but they rely on cued detection (ie. have to be told where to look and what to look for); Space Fence does uncued detection at twice the range of any other sensor.

Talking out your ass sucks.
 
2013-08-22 07:40:23 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: I can't imagine that they couldn't divert the money from somewhere else. Maybe close an unnecessary base or something?


The array can't detect objects under 1cm. The stuff in low earth orbit is traveling at 15-17 thousand miles per hour, so even stuff under 1cm is no bueno if it hits your spacecraft. Thus, they are shutting down the old one and hoping to secure funding for a new one. Even if they kept the old one running, there is still an undetected danger to spacecraft from objects under 1cm. The new one will presumably cost $3 Billion, no idea what the current one costs to run but it's a moot point.
 
2013-08-22 08:07:31 PM

UsikFark: The array can't detect objects under 1cm. The stuff in low earth orbit is traveling at 15-17 thousand miles per hour, so even stuff under 1cm is no bueno if it hits your spacecraft. Thus, they are shutting down the old one and hoping to secure funding for a new one. Even if they kept the old one running, there is still an undetected danger to spacecraft from objects under 1cm. The new one will presumably cost $3 Billion, no idea what the current one costs to run but it's a moot point.


Close, but you're missing a zero.  Space Fence tracks objects 10cm or larger, up to 15,000 miles distant.  There are about 23,000 objects tracked by the Space Surveillance Network, and Space Fence is responsible for roughly 40% of those observations.  On the downside, there are a few hundred thousand objects too small for Space Fence to track.  And every time they run into something, they make another debris object.
 
2013-08-22 08:21:42 PM

Thurston Howell: UsikFark: The array can't detect objects under 1cm. The stuff in low earth orbit is traveling at 15-17 thousand miles per hour, so even stuff under 1cm is no bueno if it hits your spacecraft. Thus, they are shutting down the old one and hoping to secure funding for a new one. Even if they kept the old one running, there is still an undetected danger to spacecraft from objects under 1cm. The new one will presumably cost $3 Billion, no idea what the current one costs to run but it's a moot point.

Close, but you're missing a zero.  Space Fence tracks objects 10cm or larger, up to 15,000 miles distant.  There are about 23,000 objects tracked by the Space Surveillance Network, and Space Fence is responsible for roughly 40% of those observations.  On the downside, there are a few hundred thousand objects too small for Space Fence to track.  And every time they run into something, they make another debris object.


Well... it still can't detect objects under 1cm ;)

/misread that part of the article
 
2013-08-22 08:25:41 PM
Forgot to mention that projected cost savings, assuming the fence is shut down by Oct. 1st, are 14 million per annum.
 
2013-08-22 08:51:14 PM
You'd think we could vaporize some space debris with LASERS.
 
2013-08-22 09:13:30 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-22 09:53:57 PM
I never thought the space fence thing would work anyway.  No way we could get all the aliens to wear those collars.
 
2013-08-22 10:12:54 PM
movies.infinitecoolness.com
 
2013-08-22 11:48:06 PM

asynchron: Hmm, maybe they could just retask this:

[www.aoc.nrao.edu image 600x390]

(Both that and the thing in TFA are about an hour's drive from where my arse is currently sitting)


Um... that's a radio observatory.

morbo.jpg
 
2013-08-23 01:12:28 AM
Nice headline subby
 
2013-08-23 02:12:01 AM
Don't worry, there's an organization to deal with illegal aliens.
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
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