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(Daily Kos)   At a CEO forum in Raleigh, Colin Powell rips North Carolina's new voter suppression law... with the NC Governor Pat McCrory in the audience. Awkward   (dailykos.com) divider line 284
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2013-08-22 01:56:43 PM
he's right. and republicans should listen to him. they won't, of course. but they should.
 
2013-08-22 02:08:05 PM
Fark him!
 
2013-08-22 02:13:33 PM

Deep Contact: Fark him!


With all the laws he's passing, I agree, McCrory is a piece of human sh*t.
 
2013-08-22 02:23:37 PM
No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.
 
2013-08-22 03:26:15 PM
Still, better than never developing a conscience at all.
 
2013-08-22 03:36:48 PM
Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?
 
2013-08-22 03:37:59 PM

Elandriel: No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.


You know, apart from that, Powell's had a pretty distinguished career. Shame that he was misled, and that (IMO) he went out on a limb based on that shady info, and they hung him out to dry over it.

// plus he speaks Yiddish
 
2013-08-22 03:45:39 PM

Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?


Murdering your political opposition?
 
2013-08-22 03:47:18 PM

Elandriel: Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?

Murdering your political opposition?


Being a black Democrat?
 
2013-08-22 03:47:47 PM

Elandriel: Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?

Murdering your political opposition?


in the case of republicans that's a preemptive strike on a terrorist.

(not really)
 
2013-08-22 04:03:58 PM

Elandriel: Murdering your political opposition?


That would appear to qualify as a subset of "suppressing the vote", unless you're in Chicago.
 
2013-08-22 04:07:38 PM

Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?


Voting from heaven?
 
2013-08-22 04:30:09 PM
I'm sure the Freeper comments are only about respecting his service and right to free speech.
 
2013-08-22 04:41:09 PM

Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?


Yes.  Voting democrat.

God bless McRory for trying to stop that nonsense.
 
2013-08-22 04:42:56 PM

Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?


Lying to the world in order to line the pockets of your boss' budies?
 
2013-08-22 04:43:46 PM

TrollingForColumbine: Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?

Lying to the world in order to line the pockets of your boss' budies?


And getting thousands of innocent people killed in the process.
 
2013-08-22 04:45:33 PM

Dr Dreidel: Elandriel: No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.

You know, apart from that, Powell's had a pretty distinguished career. Shame that he was misled, and that (IMO) he went out on a limb based on that shady info, and they hung him out to dry over it.

// plus he speaks Yiddish


That must've made things simple when dealing with Bush's cabinet.
 
2013-08-22 04:45:40 PM
After Powell endorsed Obama against McCain, he became just another race-hustling poverty pimp to the Republican rank and file.  This incident will just be further proof for those Republicans that Powell is no long "one of the good ones" and is just another Black person who doesn't understand that Democrats are the real racists.
 
2013-08-22 04:45:42 PM

Elandriel: No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.


To be fair, he was a reluctant crony.  He never really liked being a puppet, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
2013-08-22 04:46:27 PM
What is the difference between this claim and a police department claiming they lowered the rape rate to zero because they stopped filing rape reports?

If it is illegal to look for cheats, you won't catch many.
 
2013-08-22 04:47:23 PM

TrollingForColumbine: Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?

Lying to the world in order to line the pockets of your boss' budies?



This. I don't care how "distinguished" Powell's career was prior to working in GWB's administration, he'll always be remembered for carrying water for the wrong people.

Short version: F#ck Colin Powell.
 
2013-08-22 04:52:50 PM
Well, he's TRYING to make up for working for Bush.
 
2013-08-22 04:55:07 PM

Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?


Aside from actual treason?
 
2013-08-22 04:55:21 PM
Awkward ?
Nice. Spiffy, even.
 
2013-08-22 04:57:52 PM

FlashHarry: he's right. and republicans should listen to him. they won't, of course. but they should.


They can't listen to him. They're trying to kill democracy.
 
2013-08-22 05:00:20 PM

Elandriel: No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.


This post suggests that you aren't very familiar with Colin Powell outside of his brief tenure in GW's administration.
 
2013-08-22 05:03:35 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Elandriel: No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.

This post suggests that you aren't very familiar with Colin Powell outside of his brief tenure in GW's administration.


It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.
 
2013-08-22 05:04:31 PM
Some people just don't know their place.
 
2013-08-22 05:07:25 PM

Cubicle Jockey: BojanglesPaladin: Elandriel: No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.

This post suggests that you aren't very familiar with Colin Powell outside of his brief tenure in GW's administration.

It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.


You beat me to it. It bears repeating.
 
2013-08-22 05:18:50 PM

BojanglesPaladin: This post suggests that you aren't very familiar with Colin Powell outside of his brief tenure in GW's administration.


And I'm and your fellow Republicans would defend a Democrat who flat out lied to the UN and the world, helping us get into a war based on false pretenses. Hell, you're still whining about Susan Rice.
 
2013-08-22 05:18:50 PM

Cubicle Jockey: It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.


HA! That joke is not only appropriate, but weird considering it just started showing up again in my RL recently.
 
2013-08-22 05:24:13 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Cubicle Jockey: It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.

HA! That joke is not only appropriate, but weird considering it just started showing up again in my RL recently.


You farked a goat?
 
2013-08-22 05:24:56 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Cubicle Jockey: It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.

HA! That joke is not only appropriate, but weird considering it just started showing up again in my RL recently.


Just leave the goats alone and it'll go away, man.
 
2013-08-22 05:26:47 PM
This voter ID argument is bullshiat.  Getting proper identification isn't hard.  Even when I went to college and moved many times I always had proper and updated ID.

If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well.

Seriously, we have 13 forms of ID across four people.  If protecting a vote with a valid ID is too difficult, you have bigger problems than casting that vote that need correcting--mainly not being a complete loser who cannot plan ahead.
 
2013-08-22 05:27:07 PM
Is it me, or does he seem uppity?
 
2013-08-22 05:28:09 PM

Fark You I'm Drunk: BojanglesPaladin: Cubicle Jockey: It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.

HA! That joke is not only appropriate, but weird considering it just started showing up again in my RL recently.

You farked a goat?


He had a kid
 
2013-08-22 05:29:55 PM

Fark You I'm Drunk: You farked a goat?


We have a friend named Seamus, and we used to tell that joke mercilessly years ago on him. Grew apart over the years and infrequently regroup. a few weeks ago he was in town and the old crew gathered, so that joke has been circulating again after an absence of many years.
 
2013-08-22 05:31:58 PM

fickenchucker: If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well


You sound white. I bet you are a racist.

Otherwise why wouldn't you oppose Voter ID? Only racists support VoterIDSuppression laws.

It is known.
 
2013-08-22 05:33:32 PM

fickenchucker: This voter ID argument is bullshiat.  Getting proper identification isn't hard.  Even when I went to college and moved many times I always had proper and updated ID.

If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well.

Seriously, we have 13 forms of ID across four people.  If protecting a vote with a valid ID is too difficult, you have bigger problems than casting that vote that need correcting--mainly not being a complete loser who cannot plan ahead.


What constitutes a proper, valid ID for voting purposes? Is a college ID acceptable? Say I don't own or drive a car, do I still have to take a day off work, go to the DMV, pay for a drivers license just so I can vote? Why do I have to pay the state to be allowed to vote?
 
2013-08-22 05:35:35 PM

Tigger: Can there be any more treasonous and anti-american action than trying to distort the electoral process in your favor by suppressing the vote?


being a black guy and getting elected President?
 
2013-08-22 05:35:41 PM
FTFA:
"You can say what you like, but there is no voter fraud," Powell said. "How can it be widespread and undetected?"

Oh please... It's "logic" like this that is undermining the GOP.

After all, the people on the Fox News Channel told me:
- Fartbongo is both an incompetent boob and an evil genius
- that we have to go to war to preserve peace
- that after destroying Iraq's infrastructure and oil producing capabilities that oil exports would pay for the war
- that the 4078th racist/misogynistic/homophobic statement/email from a GOP candidate/elected official in the last 36 months was nothing more than the result of an over zealous staffer whose words were taken out of context via a direct quote and is totally not indicative of the party as a whole and besides YOU'RE THE RACIST/MISOGYNIST/HOMOPHOBE FOR POINTING IT OUT!

/Stupid libs... We've always been at war with Eastasia
 
2013-08-22 05:38:14 PM

Cubicle Jockey: BojanglesPaladin: Elandriel: No love lost for Powell for that matter.  Duplicitious puppet for the Bush administration who only "developed a conscience" after it became apparent that history frowned upon his actions.

This post suggests that you aren't very familiar with Colin Powell outside of his brief tenure in GW's administration.

It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.


Powell farked not one but two goats - as an army major he tried covering up the My Lai massacre.
 
2013-08-22 05:38:31 PM

fickenchucker: This voter ID argument is bullshiat.  Getting proper identification isn't hard.  Even when I went to college and moved many times I always had proper and updated ID.

If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well.

Seriously, we have 13 forms of ID across four people.  If protecting a vote with a valid ID is too difficult, you have bigger problems than casting that vote that need correcting--mainly not being a complete loser who cannot plan ahead.


As we all know, birth certificates can never be lost or destroyed, and everyone has lots of time to sit around the hopefully nearby DMV or passport office.

What problem do you imagine is solved by imposing stringent new requirements on voting? I'll give you a hint: there isn't one. So, you'd just prefer to impose stringent new requirements on voting for no discernible reason.
 
2013-08-22 05:39:49 PM

DORMAMU: Fark You I'm Drunk: BojanglesPaladin: Cubicle Jockey: It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.

HA! That joke is not only appropriate, but weird considering it just started showing up again in my RL recently.

You farked a goat?

He had a kid


that was baaaad of ewe
 
2013-08-22 05:39:56 PM

propasaurus: fickenchucker: This voter ID argument is bullshiat.  Getting proper identification isn't hard.  Even when I went to college and moved many times I always had proper and updated ID.

If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well.

Seriously, we have 13 forms of ID across four people.  If protecting a vote with a valid ID is too difficult, you have bigger problems than casting that vote that need correcting--mainly not being a complete loser who cannot plan ahead.

What constitutes a proper, valid ID for voting purposes? Is a college ID acceptable? Say I don't own or drive a car, do I still have to take a day off work, go to the DMV, pay for a drivers license just so I can vote? Why do I have to pay the state to be allowed to vote?


I'm addition, what about those who were born at home and never got a both certificate (wasn't that long ago that it was common)?

Or what about those who live in areas where the state shut down all ID places (like the DMV) within 50+ miles of where they live, and they don't own or drive a For example, Texas?
 
2013-08-22 05:40:43 PM

qorkfiend: What problem do you imagine is solved by imposing stringent new requirements on voting? I'll give you a hint: there isn't one. So, you'd just prefer to impose stringent new requirements on voting for no discernible reason.


That would be a major difference between liberals and conservatives, really: Liberals pass laws to solve problems, generally regardless of how they might feel about them. Conservatives pass laws out of moral indignation, regardless of whether they solve any problems. I take issue with both approaches but the latter is just reprehensibly evil and spiteful.
 
2013-08-22 05:41:20 PM

fickenchucker: This voter ID argument is bullshiat.  Getting proper identification isn't hard.  Even when I went to college and moved many times I always had proper and updated ID.

If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well.

Seriously, we have 13 forms of ID across four people.  If protecting a vote with a valid ID is too difficult, you have bigger problems than casting that vote that need correcting--mainly not being a complete loser who cannot plan ahead.


If the only requirement of the bill was an ID, and the government made it free and easy to obtain, you may have a point.

Suffice it to say, you don't have a point.

The measure given final approval late Thursday night in a party-line vote in the GOP-dominated state House requires voters to present government-issued photo IDs at the polls and shortens early voting by a week, from 17 days to 10.

The measure also ends same-day registration
, requiring voters to register, update their address or make any other needed changes at least 25 days ahead of the election. A popular high school civics program that registers tens of thousands of students to vote each year in advance of their 18th birthdays will be eliminated.

The bill also ends straight-ticket voting
, which has been in place in the state since 1925.


Disclosure requirements intended to make clear who is underwriting campaign ads will be weakened and political parties would be enabled to rake in unlimited corporate donations. The cap on individual campaign donations will rise from $4,000 to $5,000.
 Pretending that this is only about the ID is a load of crap.
 
2013-08-22 05:42:02 PM

mgshamster: propasaurus: fickenchucker: This voter ID argument is bullshiat.  Getting proper identification isn't hard.  Even when I went to college and moved many times I always had proper and updated ID.

If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well.

Seriously, we have 13 forms of ID across four people.  If protecting a vote with a valid ID is too difficult, you have bigger problems than casting that vote that need correcting--mainly not being a complete loser who cannot plan ahead.

What constitutes a proper, valid ID for voting purposes? Is a college ID acceptable? Say I don't own or drive a car, do I still have to take a day off work, go to the DMV, pay for a drivers license just so I can vote? Why do I have to pay the state to be allowed to vote?

I'm addition, what about those who were born at home and never got a both certificate (wasn't that long ago that it was common)?

Or what about those who live in areas where the state shut down all ID places (like the DMV) within 50+ miles of where they live, and they don't own or drive a For example, Texas?


Damn it!

"... who don't own or drive a car. For example, Texas."

This mobile version of fark is very annoying. Every time I move the cursor to add in a word, it deletes the last word I typed and moves the cursor over there. Anyone else having this issue?
 
2013-08-22 05:43:10 PM

TrollingForColumbine: DORMAMU: Fark You I'm Drunk: BojanglesPaladin: Cubicle Jockey: It's like the guy who farked one goat. Noone cares if you built that bridge with your bare hands.

HA! That joke is not only appropriate, but weird considering it just started showing up again in my RL recently.

You farked a goat?

He had a kid

that was baaaad of ewe


Naaaah.

Pretty mild actually.
 
2013-08-22 05:44:23 PM

BojanglesPaladin: fickenchucker: If I can get and save original birth certificates, state ID cards for my minor children, driver's licenses for the adults, passports for all of us, and now a temporary license for the teen, then anyone with the slightest semblance of being an adult can do it as well

You sound white. I bet you are a racist.

Otherwise why wouldn't you oppose Voter ID? Only racists support VoterIDSuppression laws.

It is known.


No, a great many people supporting voter ID laws aren't racist. Those people are just dumb.
 
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