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(Washington Post)   U.S. Justice Department messes with Texas, sues over voter ID law   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 538
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2013-08-22 02:52:44 PM
What an informative article!
 
2013-08-22 03:04:35 PM
Didn't they do this a few weeks ago? I think I got the greenlight for it too
 
2013-08-22 03:05:42 PM

Bathia_Mapes: What an informative article!


They just have gotten to the point that they know nobody reads past the headline, so why put in effort to write more than a headline?
 
2013-08-22 03:07:53 PM
This won't go anywhere.
 
2013-08-22 03:08:10 PM
 
2013-08-22 03:09:25 PM
And yeah, they sound serious.

"We will not allow the Supreme Court's recent decision to be interpreted as open season for states to pursue measures that suppress voting rights."
 
2013-08-22 03:10:54 PM
1) Pass unconstitutional law
2) Lose in court multiple times
3) Fundraise by vowing to stop activist judges.

It's the cycle of derp.
 
WGJ
2013-08-22 03:11:22 PM
Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.
 
2013-08-22 03:12:38 PM
Republican Sen. John Cornyn said his state should be allowed to write its own election laws.

"Facts mean little to a politicized Justice Department bent on inserting itself into the sovereign affairs of Texas and a lame-duck Administration trying to turn our state blue," he said in a statement. "As Texans we reject the notion that the federal government knows what's best for us."


Funny man
 
2013-08-22 03:12:59 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


It's like you are pretending this is the first time the issue has arisen, and no one has explained.
 
2013-08-22 03:13:09 PM
Natch! Obama and the DoJ encourage voter fraud, how do you think they stole power in America!?
 
2013-08-22 03:13:25 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


Not everyone who is elegible to vote is able to obtain proof.
 
2013-08-22 03:13:29 PM
Good. I hope all that is left is a grease spot and a taco stand.
Farking racist, backwoods, cracker-assed misogynistic assholes.
 
2013-08-22 03:13:31 PM

somedude210: Didn't they do this a few weeks ago? I think I got the greenlight for it too


That's you, man --slingin' mad headlines and fat-stackin' the sweet greens, beyotch!
 
2013-08-22 03:13:48 PM
3 hours after the SCOTUS decision is all it took for Texas to say "fark yeah! let's keep people from voting!!!"

That is probably a record for proving the SCOTUS wrong.
 
2013-08-22 03:14:16 PM

Bathia_Mapes: What an informative article!


get's right to the point doesn't it.
 
2013-08-22 03:14:41 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


Because it would be a bit like deploying landmines in crosswalks to cut down on jaywalking.   It "solves" something that is barely a problem, and does so in a way that hurts lots of innocent people
 
2013-08-22 03:14:44 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


What's wrong with the system that has worked for decades?
 
2013-08-22 03:14:51 PM
Anyone got the tl;dr version? I got bored halfway through.
 
2013-08-22 03:15:05 PM
I should have come here to read the comments before spending half a minute trying to figure out why the article wasn't appearing for me.
 
2013-08-22 03:15:29 PM
I was about to say this deserved a Hero tag.  Then I RTFA.

/Apparently the admins don't.
 
2013-08-22 03:15:40 PM

neversubmit: Republican Sen. John Cornyn said his state should be allowed to write its own election laws.

"Facts mean little to a politicized Justice Department bent on inserting itself into the sovereign affairs of Texas and a lame-duck Administration trying to turn our state blue," he said in a statement. "As Texans we reject the notion that the federal government knows what's best for us."


Funny man


What I love is the term 'lame-duck' with the inauguration only 8 months behind us.  They're desperate to see 2016 get here, aren't they?
 
2013-08-22 03:15:47 PM
I've said it before...on it's face a Voter ID law seems reasonable (so long as ID's are provided for free by the state).  The problem is that the cost outweighs any benefit.

As for redistricting...let's not pretend it's a game only one party plays.  Both play the same game.

And I'm going to preemptively say no "So vote Republican."  Want real change?  Vote for a 3rd party...
 
2013-08-22 03:16:17 PM

Vodka Zombie: somedude210: Didn't they do this a few weeks ago? I think I got the greenlight for it too

That's you, man --slingin' mad headlines and fat-stackin' the sweet greens, beyotch!


sarcasm noted, but I swear Holder announced they were suing Texas
 
2013-08-22 03:16:22 PM
tl;dr
 
2013-08-22 03:16:54 PM
True Fact:  "Don't Mess With Texas" was the catchphrase for an anti-littering campaign.
 
2013-08-22 03:17:14 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


Yes, I have been accused of being a silthy stinking Liberal and i cant say I have too much of an issue with ID for voting. You need an ID for every damn thing else in this world. Voting seems a rather critical thing
 
2013-08-22 03:18:17 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


no brain, that's you
 
2013-08-22 03:18:27 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


s3.amazonaws.com
You're like a child that wanders into a thread...
 
2013-08-22 03:18:32 PM
One of the talk radio derpers said that he "personally saw hundreds of illegal aliens voting -- some of them would get out of the booth, then go to the back of the line to vote again" last November.

He never explained why he didn't call the Department of State's toll-free line to report such a violation, nor how a guy who brags about living out of the "city" would vote in a ward where so many illegal aliens would somehow be able to impersonate legal voters.
 
2013-08-22 03:18:53 PM

Cerebral Knievel: WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.

Yes, I have been accused of being a silthy stinking Liberal and i cant say I have too much of an issue with ID for voting. You need an ID for every damn thing else in this world. Voting seems a rather critical thing


Because it costs money to get an ID.  When they make it completely free to get a state ID, then it won't be a voting tax.

Until then, it's Unconstitutional.
 
2013-08-22 03:18:57 PM

Infernalist: neversubmit: Republican Sen. John Cornyn said his state should be allowed to write its own election laws.

"Facts mean little to a politicized Justice Department bent on inserting itself into the sovereign affairs of Texas and a lame-duck Administration trying to turn our state blue," he said in a statement. "As Texans we reject the notion that the federal government knows what's best for us."


Funny man

What I love is the term 'lame-duck' with the inauguration only 8 months behind us.  They're desperate to see 2016 get here, aren't they?


John sounds like he's full of fertilizer and in Texas that ain't safe.
 
2013-08-22 03:19:06 PM

mediablitz: What's wrong with the system that has worked for democrats for decades?



FIFY
 
2013-08-22 03:19:27 PM
It needed a picture of what a dept of justice suing tx looks like.
 
2013-08-22 03:19:42 PM

slayer199: I've said it before...on it's face a Voter ID law seems reasonable (so long as ID's are provided for free by the state).  The problem is that the cost outweighs any benefit.

As for redistricting...let's not pretend it's a game only one party plays.  Both play the same game.

And I'm going to preemptively say no "So vote Republican."  Want real change?  Vote for a 3rd party...


Yeah, that worked really well in 2000 and 2004.
 
2013-08-22 03:20:01 PM
Too long. I only want a summary. I don't need to be an expert.
 
2013-08-22 03:20:20 PM

Infernalist: Because it costs money to get an ID. When they make it completely free to get a state ID, then it won't be a voting tax.


They will never do that, because the point is not and never has been about identifying voters. This whole issue is only to keep the growing number of people who will never vote Republican from voting.
 
2013-08-22 03:20:25 PM
Why do we need voter ID laws? Can't the NSA just tell the election boards who's ineligible to vote?
 
2013-08-22 03:20:46 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.


Voter ID laws are supposed to address voter impersonation -- that is, walking into a polling place, saying you're a person on the list who you aren't, and voting.  Now step back and think about how much sense it makes for people to do this.  To swing an election of any size, you have to get thousands or perhaps millions of people to commit fraud -- if that happened, we'd know about it (either someone in the massive, secret conspiracy you're hypothesizing will spill the beans, or someone will be noticed after going in for the tenth or fifteenth time).  Anything less and it's a huge waste of time.  So, since voter fraud accomplishes precisely nothing, why are we supposed to assume people are doing it, when the cost of that assumption is the possible denial of voting rights?
 
2013-08-22 03:20:51 PM

slayer199: a Voter ID law seems reasonable (so long as ID's are provided for free by the state).



Does the state have to provide free I.D. so you can claim a welfare check?
 
2013-08-22 03:21:08 PM
Maybe we should restrict voting. My concern is snowbirds that have addresses in 2 or more states. They could, potentially, register in both states and vote twice.

/ But, that will never happen; all parties want their votes.
 
2013-08-22 03:21:20 PM

Infernalist: Cerebral Knievel: WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.

Yes, I have been accused of being a silthy stinking Liberal and i cant say I have too much of an issue with ID for voting. You need an ID for every damn thing else in this world. Voting seems a rather critical thing

Because it costs money to get an ID.  When they make it completely free to get a state ID, then it won't be a voting tax.

Until then, it's Unconstitutional.


I got ya.. and I do agree. I really do... I just can't see how people can exist without an ID in the first place
 
2013-08-22 03:21:20 PM
WASHINGTON - Justice Department sues Texas on voter ID law and seeks to intervene in redistricting case.

Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

I think your journalistic efforts are safe from the plagiarist's pen.

At least it's not misspelled.
 
2013-08-22 03:21:21 PM

mbillips: slayer199: I've said it before...on it's face a Voter ID law seems reasonable (so long as ID's are provided for free by the state).  The problem is that the cost outweighs any benefit.

As for redistricting...let's not pretend it's a game only one party plays.  Both play the same game.

And I'm going to preemptively say no "So vote Republican."  Want real change?  Vote for a 3rd party...

Yeah, that worked really well in 2000 and 2004.


At this point, if you want to see REAL change in our voting system, vote Democrat until the GOP completely implodes and degrades down to the level of a regional party.

The Democratic Party will then split between the center-right establishment and the liberals on the left.

But, the GOP has to die.  It has to, for the sake of this country, the GOP has to be broken and its power scattered forever.
 
2013-08-22 03:21:46 PM

WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote?


Because this is taken care of during registration. Voter ID, free or not, is unnecessary.
 
2013-08-22 03:21:50 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.

no brain, that's you


Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how some folks are "unable" to get an ID of some sort for themselves. I mean, if they drive they have a DL, don't they? And if they don't drive, they can still get a plain ol' ID, I'd think.
 
2013-08-22 03:22:30 PM

Infernalist: Because it costs money to get an ID. When they make it completely free to get a state ID, then it won't be a voting tax.

Until then, it's Unconstitutional.


It's legal for states to charge for a weapon license. So clearly fees to exercise an enumerated right can be legal...
 
2013-08-22 03:22:36 PM
A recent survey of Americans says:

"Texas was the most hated of the 50 states and, 21% of the voters said they would like to see it kicked out of the country."


 http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/americans-new-yorkers-rudest- sur vey-article-1.1431934
 
2013-08-22 03:23:12 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Infernalist: Cerebral Knievel: WGJ: Whats wrong with showing proof that you are eligible to vote? That seems like a no brainer to me.

Yes, I have been accused of being a silthy stinking Liberal and i cant say I have too much of an issue with ID for voting. You need an ID for every damn thing else in this world. Voting seems a rather critical thing

Because it costs money to get an ID.  When they make it completely free to get a state ID, then it won't be a voting tax.

Until then, it's Unconstitutional.

I got ya.. and I do agree. I really do... I just can't see how people can exist without an ID in the first place


It's much easier than you think.  But, as has been stated already, this isn't about identifying voters.
 
2013-08-22 03:23:24 PM
"The filing of endless litigation in an effort to obstruct the will of the people of Texas is what we have come to expect from Attorney General Eric Holder and President Obama," Perry said.

infringing civil rights - the will of the texas people
 
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