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(Al Jazeera)   Manning's future leaks will be done sitting down   (america.aljazeera.com) divider line 41
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2013-08-22 12:40:46 PM
6 votes:
So glad the media continues to report on his gender identity and not on any of the material in the leaks.

True investigative journalism.
2013-08-22 12:57:31 PM
3 votes:

LAWriter: Geez, what a sleazy headline. Is Matt Drudge in the house?


The whole point of Fark headlines is to find who can come up with the best wordplay and silliness. I seriously doubt that subby was trying to make an actual insult, which is what the Drudges and Freepers of the world do when they attempt comedy. "Hurr woman's Cadillac breaks down on way to retrieve welfare check hurr."
2013-08-22 01:46:33 PM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: Gender reassignment is not needed for him to stay alive.


You're wrong.  Transgender people will often kill themselves if they aren't able to live as the gender we feel ourselves to be.  I have to fight off suicidal thoughts all the time caused just by the feeling that I'm female.
2013-08-22 01:26:03 PM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: jst3p: ManateeGag: jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.

I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

I should have said sexual identity. It's OK though, you don't have to understand everything.

when why don't you enlighten us all, since you are obviously superior.



http://tinyurl.com/myz87jt

The information is all over the place, if you don't "get it" in this day and age it is because you don't want to.
2013-08-22 01:20:28 PM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.

I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.


I should have said sexual identity. It's OK though, you don't have to understand everything.
2013-08-22 01:13:54 PM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.


Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.
2013-08-22 12:52:09 PM
2 votes:
His guards will henceforth be called "Chelsea Handler".
2013-08-22 12:47:49 PM
2 votes:
The only injections this clown should get art he lethal variety, But great headline subby!
2013-08-22 12:45:13 PM
2 votes:
I am pretty sure he is doing this to keep his ass out of general population, you know away from the rape.
2013-08-22 12:40:05 PM
2 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: cman: Curious, can an admin come in and tell us if the Subby is a lighter or not? If the subby is, I really would like to sponsor them for TF

I still say that all submissions should have the name of the submitter on 'em.


Judge a headline on merit, not on who submitted it.
2013-08-22 11:57:34 AM
2 votes:
Ok, Admins, please green this with the repeat tag.

This is HOTY material
2013-08-22 09:41:45 PM
1 votes:

ManateeGag: lafong: The only injections this clown should get art he lethal variety, But great headline subby!

I think killing him for being stupid isn't the right move.

I also don't think the US tax payers should be paying for this guy's gender reassignment procedures.


You're paying for her housing, food, heating, plumbing, guarding, and many more expenses for many decades to come. Even when I didn't have health insurance hormone therapy only ran me under a dollar a day. Even surgeries only fall in the five digits (14k for me after most expenses, done out of the US). That is an absolute pittance to the government. To put it into perspective of my government job, (I acknowledge that county level budgeting is completely removed from DOJ) the government spends about that much to put in a half a dozen trash cans at our schools.

It isn't as if reversing the transphobic policies here and with most insurance companies would lead to a deluge of people having their bits cut up just because it would be cheaper.
2013-08-22 04:59:27 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com

God bless America.
2013-08-22 04:35:49 PM
1 votes:

ikanreed: Do you think if we had greater transsexual acceptance in the U.S., that manning wouldn't have done what he did?


Ha

I don't think you join the military during a war with DADT in place thinking there's going to be a lot of transsexual acceptance, or that it's going to be high on the "get around to it" priority list. And from what I read at the point where they are taking guns away from Manning because they thought he might go on an in-base shooting spree, they should have been stripping security clearance as well, you don't trust someone with guns but trust them with access to top secret stuff?...come on!
2013-08-22 03:54:45 PM
1 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: robbiex0r: So glad the media continues to report on his gender identity and not on any of the material in the leaks.

True investigative journalism.

Manning was really only interested in getting his own whistle blown.  What he leaked got people killed and what he leaked didn't show any pattern of illegal conduct.  It was just stuff that was embarrassing.


As others above have noted, CITATION NEEDED.

I don't think Manning's sentence was necessarily out of line, but nobody's been able to show a single American even injured, let alone killed, by the leak. afaik.

Heck, show me a noogie, a wedgie, SOMETHING.   You guys got zip so far on that score.

And no, embarrassing some sectors of the government doesn't count.
2013-08-22 03:11:30 PM
1 votes:
Subby here.  I'm glad my first green was so well received.

Thanks for the TF guys.
2013-08-22 02:11:58 PM
1 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: robbiex0r: So glad the media continues to report on his gender identity and not on any of the material in the leaks.

True investigative journalism.

Manning was really only interested in getting his own whistle blown.  What he leaked got people killed and what he leaked didn't show any pattern of illegal conduct.  It was just stuff that was embarrassing.

Compare that with Snowden who does seem to have shown a light on illegal activities by the NSA.

As for hormone treatment while in prison, screw that.


If this is true, then why isn't that being covered?

Pretty sure that never happened.
2013-08-22 02:01:43 PM
1 votes:

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Cyberluddite

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I am pretty sure he is doing this to keep his ass out of general population, you know away from the rape.

Nah, this isn't anything new. In fact, Manning's lawyers brought up his alleged gender dysphoria as part of his defense to the charges (I'm not sure what it was claimed that related to in his defense, but it was brought up).

He knew the instant he was picked up a fair trial and acquittal were two things he would never see. He would be tried and hung as a martyr, why not go full retard and make a mockery of the system that brought you down.

Just a thought.


Just to clarify: Manning contacted WikiLeaks in November 2009. The documents were downloaded sometime in January 2010 and sent the information to WikiLeaks in February of the same year.  WikiLeaks posted the video on April 5 2010. On April 24 2010 Manning contacted Master Sergeant Paul Adkins and let their superior office know that they were suffering gender dysphoria and attached a picture in which Manning was dressed as a female (a communication that the Master Sergeant kept secret for fear of him getting a DADT discharge or possible harassment if the picture got out). No one was aware he was the source of the leak until May 25 2010, a month later.

It's entirely possible that this was all a trick developed by Manning to get sympathy, but I somehow doubt it. Based on her statements made between then and her arrest it seems that she did feel alienated, and expressed to many people worries about gender dysphoria. I'm skeptical that was the reason behind the leak and it isn't an excuse for it, but at the very least we should try to understand that respecting someone's wishes on gender identity is basic human courtesy.
2013-08-22 01:29:58 PM
1 votes:

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?

what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.


you were saying hurtful and ignorant things but claim that you understand the difference between gender and sex. Either you don't understand or you're a bigot. Which is it?
2013-08-22 01:27:50 PM
1 votes:

kvinesknows: jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.

yeah.. err... I identify as a woman too.  Soo.. its okay to go into the girls locker room now right?


I agree, deciding how to deal with the fact that gender identity and sexual identity are not always in sync is a complicated subject.
2013-08-22 01:26:39 PM
1 votes:
srlp.org
Approves
2013-08-22 01:26:10 PM
1 votes:

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?

what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.


Except this doesn't stop at just not understanding something. It goes all the way to "I don't understand it, therefore I don't have to show any respect for people who may be."
2013-08-22 01:24:10 PM
1 votes:

Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?


what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.
2013-08-22 01:21:18 PM
1 votes:
ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?
2013-08-22 01:12:49 PM
1 votes:
Not exactly something you usually want to announce before going to prison, is it?
2013-08-22 01:12:18 PM
1 votes:

cman: tranny


looks like you blew a tranny.

nah, it's just a little ice cream.
2013-08-22 01:11:24 PM
1 votes:

Death Whisper: ikanreed: Do you think if we had greater transsexual acceptance in the U.S., that manning wouldn't have done what he did?

Yes.


No. Manning wanted attention and got it from a man who used him to further his false ideals.
2013-08-22 01:08:55 PM
1 votes:
This thread started as a tribute to subby and subby's excellent headline and then evolved into tranny bashing.

I know I know, Welcome to Fark
2013-08-22 01:07:08 PM
1 votes:

ManateeGag: until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.


He will never really be a she, just a he with mutilated genitalia.

It's his body so I don't care but I don't want my tax dollars wasted on it.
2013-08-22 01:02:14 PM
1 votes:

FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.


Plastic surgery. If you have enough money, you can look like whoever you want to. Some Asians get surgery to look more "Western", I'm sure there's a reverse surgery.

/can't help with the stupid
//totally down with the trans
2013-08-22 12:59:50 PM
1 votes:

robbiex0r: So glad the media continues to report on his gender identity and not on any of the material in the leaks.

True investigative journalism.


Manning was really only interested in getting his own whistle blown.  What he leaked got people killed and what he leaked didn't show any pattern of illegal conduct.  It was just stuff that was embarrassing.

Compare that with Snowden who does seem to have shown a light on illegal activities by the NSA.

As for hormone treatment while in prison, screw that.
2013-08-22 12:54:55 PM
1 votes:
Cyberluddite

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I am pretty sure he is doing this to keep his ass out of general population, you know away from the rape.

Nah, this isn't anything new. In fact, Manning's lawyers brought up his alleged gender dysphoria as part of his defense to the charges (I'm not sure what it was claimed that related to in his defense, but it was brought up).


He knew the instant he was picked up a fair trial and acquittal were two things he would never see. He would be tried and hung as a martyr, why not go full retard and make a mockery of the system that brought you down.

Just a thought.
2013-08-22 12:54:35 PM
1 votes:
On an unrelated note - hey, an All Jazzera link! I work with a bunch of rednecks, and yesterday I had fun trolling them with the news that AJAM is available on our local cable network. Oh, the hue and cry that arose from my office... it was truly enjoyable.
2013-08-22 12:54:21 PM
1 votes:

comhcinc: I must be from the future without knowing it. I was sure I knew about this for months now and yet everyone else is treating this like new information.

/Serious didn't we already know this about Manning?
// Am I from the future?


Your first mistake was to come here looking for news.
2013-08-22 12:52:32 PM
1 votes:
I must be from the future without knowing it. I was sure I knew about this for months now and yet everyone else is treating this like new information.

/Serious didn't we already know this about Manning?
// Am I from the future?
2013-08-22 12:40:45 PM
1 votes:
static.guim.co.uk


Id hit it, hope she doesn't have those sharp knees
2013-08-22 12:40:45 PM
1 votes:
And this is why women shouldn't be allowed in the military.
2013-08-22 12:39:49 PM
1 votes:
I'm not subby, but I'll pull an Assange and take credit for all the work someone else did.
2013-08-22 12:36:54 PM
1 votes:
That's some headlining right there.
2013-08-22 12:07:39 PM
1 votes:
Now THAT's a proper Fark headline.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-22 12:00:23 PM
1 votes:
This is a better headline than the earlier one.
 
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