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2013-08-22 12:57:31 PM  

LAWriter: Geez, what a sleazy headline. Is Matt Drudge in the house?


The whole point of Fark headlines is to find who can come up with the best wordplay and silliness. I seriously doubt that subby was trying to make an actual insult, which is what the Drudges and Freepers of the world do when they attempt comedy. "Hurr woman's Cadillac breaks down on way to retrieve welfare check hurr."
 
2013-08-22 12:57:43 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: He knew the instant he was picked up a fair trial and acquittal were two things he would never see. He would be tried and hung as a martyr, why not go full retard and make a mockery of the system that brought you down.

Just a thought.


I don't know that this is making a mockery of anyone but Manning. To my eyes it looks more than anything like a Twinkie defense that didn't pay off.
 
2013-08-22 12:58:18 PM  

comhcinc: I must be from the future without knowing it. I was sure I knew about this for months now and yet everyone else is treating this like new information.

/Serious didn't we already know this about Manning?
// Am I from the future?


I knew about it too (as I mentioned above), but in fairness, much about this story other than the main "headlines" about it has been suppressed by the media and others, so it's not surprising that this fact is not common knowledge among those who haven't followed the story very closely.  In fact, even the big "headlines" sometimes don't receive their due attention--for example, the story about Manning's sentence, which one would think would be big news, was on about page 12 of my city's newpaper this morning rather than on the front page.
 
2013-08-22 12:59:50 PM  

robbiex0r: So glad the media continues to report on his gender identity and not on any of the material in the leaks.

True investigative journalism.


Manning was really only interested in getting his own whistle blown.  What he leaked got people killed and what he leaked didn't show any pattern of illegal conduct.  It was just stuff that was embarrassing.

Compare that with Snowden who does seem to have shown a light on illegal activities by the NSA.

As for hormone treatment while in prison, screw that.
 
2013-08-22 12:59:53 PM  

FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.


until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.
 
2013-08-22 01:01:30 PM  
Thank you subby.
 
2013-08-22 01:02:14 PM  

FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.


Plastic surgery. If you have enough money, you can look like whoever you want to. Some Asians get surgery to look more "Western", I'm sure there's a reverse surgery.

/can't help with the stupid
//totally down with the trans
 
2013-08-22 01:07:08 PM  

ManateeGag: until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.


He will never really be a she, just a he with mutilated genitalia.

It's his body so I don't care but I don't want my tax dollars wasted on it.
 
2013-08-22 01:08:55 PM  
This thread started as a tribute to subby and subby's excellent headline and then evolved into tranny bashing.

I know I know, Welcome to Fark
 
2013-08-22 01:09:11 PM  

hitlersbrain: It's his body so I don't care but I don't want my tax dollars wasted on it.


On this we agree.  Gender reassignment is not needed for him to stay alive.  Taxpayers should not be paying for elective surgery.
 
2013-08-22 01:11:24 PM  

Death Whisper: ikanreed: Do you think if we had greater transsexual acceptance in the U.S., that manning wouldn't have done what he did?

Yes.


No. Manning wanted attention and got it from a man who used him to further his false ideals.
 
2013-08-22 01:11:41 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: His guards will henceforth be called "Chelsea Handler".


Not funny.
 
2013-08-22 01:12:18 PM  

cman: tranny


looks like you blew a tranny.

nah, it's just a little ice cream.
 
2013-08-22 01:12:20 PM  

cman: This thread started as a tribute to subby and subby's excellent headline and then evolved into tranny bashing.

I know I know, Welcome to Fark


So you are saying this thread would be better with less dick?
 
2013-08-22 01:12:49 PM  
Not exactly something you usually want to announce before going to prison, is it?
 
2013-08-22 01:13:24 PM  
Headline win. So much headline win.
 
2013-08-22 01:13:54 PM  

ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.


Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.
 
2013-08-22 01:17:42 PM  

jst3p: Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.


Rainbows and Uni-Corns!
 
2013-08-22 01:18:44 PM  

jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.


I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.
 
2013-08-22 01:20:28 PM  

ManateeGag: jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.

I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.


I should have said sexual identity. It's OK though, you don't have to understand everything.
 
2013-08-22 01:21:18 PM  
ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?
 
2013-08-22 01:21:27 PM  

Cyberluddite: Random Anonymous Blackmail: I am pretty sure he is doing this to keep his ass out of general population, you know away from the rape.

Nah, this isn't anything new.  In fact, Manning's lawyers brought up his alleged gender dysphoria as part of his defense to the charges (I'm not sure what it was claimed that related to in his defense, but it was brought up).


because women are stupid and prone to doing anything for a mans love? ( including betraying their country)
 
2013-08-22 01:22:48 PM  

Andrew Wiggin: cman: tranny

looks like you blew a tranny.

nah, it's just a little ice cream.


I heard it as "looks like you blew a seal," but yours may be better.
 
2013-08-22 01:23:07 PM  
Why are you always on about women, Stan?
 
2013-08-22 01:23:11 PM  

jst3p: ManateeGag: jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.

I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

I should have said sexual identity. It's OK though, you don't have to understand everything.


when why don't you enlighten us all, since you are obviously superior.
 
2013-08-22 01:23:14 PM  
Tough crap Manning. Lots of people want lots of things. Part of the jail "thing" is that you don't get what you want, just barely what you need. You can kiss my shiny metal ass.
 
2013-08-22 01:23:20 PM  

jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.


yeah.. err... I identify as a woman too.  Soo.. its okay to go into the girls locker room now right?
 
2013-08-22 01:24:10 PM  

Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?


what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.
 
2013-08-22 01:26:03 PM  

ManateeGag: jst3p: ManateeGag: jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.

I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

I should have said sexual identity. It's OK though, you don't have to understand everything.

when why don't you enlighten us all, since you are obviously superior.



http://tinyurl.com/myz87jt

The information is all over the place, if you don't "get it" in this day and age it is because you don't want to.
 
2013-08-22 01:26:10 PM  

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?

what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.


Except this doesn't stop at just not understanding something. It goes all the way to "I don't understand it, therefore I don't have to show any respect for people who may be."
 
2013-08-22 01:26:39 PM  
srlp.org
Approves
 
2013-08-22 01:27:35 PM  

Andrew Wiggin: cman: tranny

looks like you blew a tranny.


Driving a Chrysler product?
 
2013-08-22 01:27:50 PM  

kvinesknows: jst3p: ManateeGag: FatherChaos: So, let's see if I understand this correctly:

If you're born ugly, stupid, or of a particular ethnicity, you have to keep it.  But you can change the gender you were born with?

The day I start calling Manning "she" is the day I can have surgery and tell everyone that I'm Japanese.

until he start the process of gender reassignment, he's still he.

I never got the "I want to be refereed to as a woman, so that makes me a woman" stuff.

Well then you just don't understand that sexuality is more than simple biology. That's OK, lots of people are ignorant.

yeah.. err... I identify as a woman too.  Soo.. its okay to go into the girls locker room now right?


I agree, deciding how to deal with the fact that gender identity and sexual identity are not always in sync is a complicated subject.
 
2013-08-22 01:29:27 PM  

ShadowKamui: robbiex0r: So glad the media continues to report on his gender identity and not on any of the material in the leaks.

True investigative journalism.

Because outside the prison abuse stuff nothing of value was released


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3788126

I'd say not.
 
2013-08-22 01:29:58 PM  

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?

what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.


you were saying hurtful and ignorant things but claim that you understand the difference between gender and sex. Either you don't understand or you're a bigot. Which is it?
 
2013-08-22 01:32:24 PM  
I'm glad to see Manning exercising zir's relatively high-extreme normative class and race privileges to start ou's transition in such a supportive setting.

However, as a transethnic autistic pangender asexual genderqueer demiromantic otherkin(cat genera), I'm afraid there's just not a lot of support out there for me and my kind. We are actually oppressed unlike white middle class folks with access to top-notch medical care and facilities like ze has thanks to zir's service in the Army. I could never, ever serve in the Army thanks to my innate nature as a class and race ally to people opressed by te US around the world. It would literally disable me.

So I think a little recognition of my daily struggles with psychonormative, militarinormative, heteronormative, homonormative, transnormative, ethnonormative, ableist, racist, classist, sizest, speciest attitudes that can make my life a living hell is well deserved before we have to cater to a tranny like Manning.

Manning's kind of mild oppression doesn't even register for me on the daily, y'all. I'm in real pain here.
 
2013-08-22 01:33:53 PM  

Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?

what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.

you were saying hurtful and ignorant things but claim that you understand the difference between gender and sex. Either you don't understand or you're a bigot. Which is it?


maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.
 
2013-08-22 01:35:01 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Cyberluddite

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I am pretty sure he is doing this to keep his ass out of general population, you know away from the rape.

Nah, this isn't anything new. In fact, Manning's lawyers brought up his alleged gender dysphoria as part of his defense to the charges (I'm not sure what it was claimed that related to in his defense, but it was brought up).

He knew the instant he was picked up a fair trial and acquittal were two things he would never see. He would be tried and hung as a martyr, why not go full retard and make a mockery of the system that brought you down.

Just a thought.


Because it fuels transphobia, seems like a desperate insanity plea, is unlikely to work, and isn't symbolic or martyring like the whistleblower defense.
 
2013-08-22 01:35:11 PM  

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
I understand there's a difference between sexuality and gender.

so you just hate trans people then?

what does it have to do with hate?  not understanding something is not the same as hatred.

you were saying hurtful and ignorant things but claim that you understand the difference between gender and sex. Either you don't understand or you're a bigot. Which is it?

maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.


TOLERATE MY INTOLERANCE!!!
 
2013-08-22 01:39:05 PM  

willfullyobscure: I'm glad to see Manning exercising zir's relatively high-extreme normative class and race privileges to start ou's transition in such a supportive setting.

However, as a transethnic autistic pangender asexual genderqueer demiromantic otherkin(cat genera), I'm afraid there's just not a lot of support out there for me and my kind. We are actually oppressed unlike white middle class folks with access to top-notch medical care and facilities like ze has thanks to zir's service in the Army. I could never, ever serve in the Army thanks to my innate nature as a class and race ally to people opressed by te US around the world. It would literally disable me.

So I think a little recognition of my daily struggles with psychonormative, militarinormative, heteronormative, homonormative, transnormative, ethnonormative, ableist, racist, classist, sizest, speciest attitudes that can make my life a living hell is well deserved before we have to cater to a tranny like Manning.

Manning's kind of mild oppression doesn't even register for me on the daily, y'all. I'm in real pain here.


FREAK!
 
2013-08-22 01:41:25 PM  
media1.giphy.com

Le mot juste!
 
2013-08-22 01:43:55 PM  
ManateeGag:
maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.

because who would have thought that belittling someone else's personal choices could possibly be hurtful.
 
2013-08-22 01:45:45 PM  
Chelsea Manning as a dude is still better looking than Chelsea Clinton will ever be.
 
2013-08-22 01:45:52 PM  

Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.

because who would have thought that belittling someone else's personal choices uncontrollable feelings about their personal sexual identity could possibly be hurtful.

 
2013-08-22 01:45:56 PM  

Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.

because who would have thought that belittling someone else's personal choices could possibly be hurtful.


Hey

You are getting too worked up over this.
 
2013-08-22 01:46:33 PM  

ManateeGag: Gender reassignment is not needed for him to stay alive.


You're wrong.  Transgender people will often kill themselves if they aren't able to live as the gender we feel ourselves to be.  I have to fight off suicidal thoughts all the time caused just by the feeling that I'm female.
 
2013-08-22 01:47:18 PM  

Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.

because who would have thought that belittling someone else's personal choices could possibly be hurtful.


because I didn't think I WAS belittling anyone.  since that is the case, I apologize for being offensive and will try to do a better job of being more respectful in the future.
 
2013-08-22 01:52:23 PM  

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.

because who would have thought that belittling someone else's personal choices could possibly be hurtful.

because I didn't think I WAS belittling anyone.  since that is the case, I apologize for being offensive and will try to do a better job of being more respectful in the future.


it's cool. This is a big deal for some people
 
2013-08-22 01:53:35 PM  
Too bad for him there's no way he gets what he wants. I'll sleep just a little bit better knowing that this loser is suffering even more beyond being locked up.
 
2013-08-22 01:53:59 PM  

Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: ManateeGag:
maybe I just don't understand that it IS hurtful. so instead of calling me a farking bigot, maybe help correct the offending behavior without resulting to being hurtful yourself.

because who would have thought that belittling someone else's personal choices could possibly be hurtful.

because I didn't think I WAS belittling anyone.  since that is the case, I apologize for being offensive and will try to do a better job of being more respectful in the future.

it's cool. This is a big deal for some people


There are a lot of bigots on this site. ManteeGag isn't one of them.
 
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