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(News Daily)   If breaking a mirror brings seven years of bad luck, how many do you get for gunning down an anti-superstition activist?   (newsdaily.com) divider line 64
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2013-08-22 12:01:55 PM
Sad.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-22 12:15:37 PM
The Tea Baggers just had a new idea.
 
2013-08-22 12:22:58 PM

vpb: The Tea Baggers just had a new idea.


Consider the following: They had better stay the fark away from Bill Nye.
 
2013-08-22 12:59:53 PM
I've been repeatedly assured by religious adherents that magical thinking is what teaches you that it's wrong to murder people so that's how I know this story didn't happen.
 
2013-08-22 01:00:05 PM
People do get all kinds of indignant when you Expose their ignorance.
 
2013-08-22 01:05:38 PM

vpb: The Tea Baggers just had a new idea.


Nah, they're just stealing old ideas like the Inquisition and the Crusades to prop up their religious ideals. They're the Hipsters of politics!
 
2013-08-22 01:07:20 PM
Dabholkar, a 67-year-old doctor-turned-activist, had been receiving death threats for years since he began traveling by public buses to hundreds of villages around Maharashtra state to lecture against superstitions, religious extremism, black magic and animal or human sacrifice, according to his friend and fellow activist, Deepak Girme.

I don't know about the other stuff but black magic is real!
 
2013-08-22 01:07:33 PM
"He wanted to expose the people who cheat the poor in the name of gods, who promise false cures for cancer or do black magic to perform so-called miracles," Girme said. "He would say he was a medical doctor but that superstition was a bigger disease causing a lot of harm, especially to the poor and the gullible."

This 10000000x.  Many "religious" organizations around the world are run as a vehicle for profiteering off ignorance.  Sometimes - like with the Taliban - Religion is just the excuse you use to justify the fact that you are a gang of murderous thugs on par with the mafia.
 
2013-08-22 01:08:35 PM
Get along with others and use your brain?
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
 
2013-08-22 01:08:46 PM
This exactly how Christians act in 'Merica.
 
2013-08-22 01:09:00 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Dabholkar, a 67-year-old doctor-turned-activist, had been receiving death threats for years since he began traveling by public buses to hundreds of villages around Maharashtra state to lecture against superstitions, religious extremism, black magic and animal or human sacrifice, according to his friend and fellow activist, Deepak Girme.

I don't know about the other stuff but black magic is real!


Your ex wasn't hexed, she was just crazy, and you were an idiot to start dating her
 
2013-08-22 01:10:16 PM
It's a glimpse into the near future in the West, I would think.
 
2013-08-22 01:15:33 PM
I think the scientific community is going about it all wrong. How hard could it be to convince the magical thinkers that the other magical thinkers are evil and need to be killed? Maybe there is even a way to convince them to kill themselves. Let's purge these genes from the gene pool forever.
 
2013-08-22 01:16:22 PM

Valiente: It's a glimpse into the near future in the West, I would think.


It's a race between the Fundies and the microbes. Good thing the Fundies don't believe in evolution, or they might join forces.
 
2013-08-22 01:17:11 PM
"The atmosphere of intolerance and anti-science attitude is sweeping the _______________," the scientists said in a statement. "There is a deliberate plot to push our society towards fanaticism."

Sad story gave me a sad. Fill in the blank with almost any country on Earth these days.....
 
2013-08-22 01:18:47 PM
"He who cannot change the very fabric of his thought will never be able to change reality, and will never, therefore, make any progress"


mycatbirdseat.com
 
2013-08-22 01:19:40 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Dabholkar, a 67-year-old doctor-turned-activist, had been receiving death threats for years since he began traveling by public buses to hundreds of villages around Maharashtra state to lecture against superstitions, religious extremism, black magic and animal or human sacrifice, according to his friend and fellow activist, Deepak Girme.

I don't know about the other stuff but black magic is real!


static.giantbomb.com
You called?
 
2013-08-22 01:21:38 PM

big pig peaches: This exactly how Christians act in 'Merica.


10/10 this is what the fark blame america first crowd truly believes
 
2013-08-22 01:21:39 PM
A lifetime supply of mirrors?
 
2013-08-22 01:22:47 PM
I believe in things that I don't understand

/writings on the wall
 
2013-08-22 01:23:22 PM

Chummer45: "He wanted to expose the people who cheat the poor in the name of gods, who promise false cures for cancer or do black magic to perform so-called miracles," Girme said. "He would say he was a medical doctor but that superstition was a bigger disease causing a lot of harm, especially to the poor and the gullible."

This 10000000x.  Many "religious" organizations around the world are run as a vehicle for profiteering off ignorance.  Sometimes - like with the Taliban - Religion is just the excuse you use to justify the fact that you are a gang of murderous thugs on par with the mafia.


Substitute 'all' for 'many'
 
2013-08-22 01:26:04 PM

Fano: big pig peaches: This exactly how Christians act in 'Merica.

10/10 this is what the fark blame america first crowd truly believes


I know, they pray to a multiarmed blue shiva and we pray to the one true white lord.

/Suck on truth libs
 
2013-08-22 01:26:14 PM

SuperNinjaToad: I don't know about the other stuff but black magic is real!


*sigh* No dear that's black METAL.

upload.wikimedia.org

Human sacrifice does sound brutal though.
 
2013-08-22 01:27:03 PM
I think I've heard this guy on a couple podcasts I listen to. Sad.
 
2013-08-22 01:27:20 PM
zulius: You called?

upload.wikimedia.org

Sup, cuz?
 
2013-08-22 01:29:27 PM
25-life
 
2013-08-22 01:30:30 PM

Vaneshi: SuperNinjaToad: I don't know about the other stuff but black magic is real!

*sigh* No dear that's black METAL.



Human sacrifice does sound brutal though.


Now this thread is dildos.
 
2013-08-22 01:36:57 PM

Fano: big pig peaches: This exactly how Christians act in 'Merica.

10/10 this is what the fark blame america first crowd truly believes


Sadly you have no concept of hyperbole.

And how is anyone "blaming America" by pointing out that we have religious nutbags here as well?
 
2013-08-22 01:38:38 PM
Oh. Wasn't in the United States. That surprised me.
 
2013-08-22 01:43:16 PM
FTFA: Indian scientists decried an "atmosphere of intolerance and anti-science attitude" that could undermine development.

I involuntarily read that in Apu's voice.
 
2013-08-22 01:51:39 PM

fawlty: I involuntarily read that in Apu's voice.


Bastard, now I did.  This is going to spread like a virus
 
2013-08-22 01:57:50 PM

megarian: Vaneshi: SuperNinjaToad: I don't know about the other stuff but black magic is real!

*sigh* No dear that's black METAL.

Human sacrifice does sound brutal though.

Now this thread is dildos.


Name one thing that doesn't have to do with guitar, ONE THING.
 
2013-08-22 01:58:01 PM

ko_kyi: fawlty: I involuntarily read that in Apu's voice.

Bastard, now I did.  This is going to spread like a virus


Great news everybody!
 
2013-08-22 02:00:55 PM

Fano: big pig peaches: This exactly how Christians act in 'Merica.

10/10 this is what the fark blame america first crowd truly believes


Ask Dr. Tiller's surviving relatives if there's not a reason to think that.
 
2013-08-22 02:03:50 PM
There's a few folks saying that this is the same as what happens in America in when we argue about the place of religion in our society or about matters which touch on religion, mostly Christianity.

No. No, it's not. And saying it is belittles Christians, dignifies the folks who do kill for the right to fleece the ignorant, and makes you look spiteful and narrow-minded.
 
2013-08-22 02:06:35 PM

meat0918: vpb: The Tea Baggers just had a new idea.

Consider the following: They had better stay the fark away from Bill Nye.


James Randi is still putting on the smack down.
 
2013-08-22 02:09:09 PM

Chummer45: "He wanted to expose the people who cheat the poor in the name of gods, who promise false cures for cancer or do black magic to perform so-called miracles," Girme said. "He would say he was a medical doctor but that superstition was a bigger disease causing a lot of harm, especially to the poor and the gullible."

This 10000000x.  Many "religious" organizations around the world are run as a vehicle for profiteering off ignorance.  Sometimes - like with the Taliban - Religion is just the excuse you use to justify the fact that you are a gang of murderous thugs on par with the mafia.


Wait... I thought EVERYONE is the same ALL OVER THE WORLD...

The market will take care of it... since EVERYONE is rational like white middle class male Farkers (95% of the Fark community).  There is no need for this anti-superstition bill.  They will mock the false-prophets out of favor, the same way the Fark community shouts down a troll.

No need to look into differences of CULTURE or RELIGION here on FARK... we're ALL THE SAME... because on Fark, we are (mostly white male middle class emotionally detached critics).

Hurrah for circle-jerk opinions.  We all agree with each other. Yay!  Freedom of speech achieved.
 
2013-08-22 02:12:13 PM

big pig peaches: This exactly how Christians act in 'Merica.


Nice strawman.
 
2013-08-22 02:15:09 PM
I dunno, but I would consider having one less self-righteous douchebag in the world a positive...
 
2013-08-22 02:24:25 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: There's a few folks saying that this is the same as what happens in America in when we argue about the place of religion in our society or about matters which touch on religion, mostly Christianity.

No. No, it's not.


Yes.  Yes it is.
There are millions of Americans who believe in faith healing, snake oils, and all sorts of other superstitious nonsense that would be tl;dr for me to write out.
 
2013-08-22 02:25:23 PM

Kit Fister: I dunno, but I would consider having one less self-righteous douchebag in the world a positive...


He wasn't self-righteous, or a douchebag.
You, however...
 
2013-08-22 02:34:51 PM

Begoggle: I May Be Crazy But...: There's a few folks saying that this is the same as what happens in America in when we argue about the place of religion in our society or about matters which touch on religion, mostly Christianity.

No. No, it's not.

Yes.  Yes it is.
There are millions of Americans who believe in faith healing, snake oils, and all sorts of other superstitious nonsense that would be tl;dr for me to write out.


I didn't say there aren't ignorant people and those who fleece them. I said people aren't killing for it.

I live down the street from the biggest church in world. They preach their prosperity gospel in the name of a man who said that no rich man will make it into heaven. But THEY DON'T KILL the folks who call them greedy heretics. In fact, mostly they ignore them in favor of holding services in a basketball arena.
 
2013-08-22 02:35:38 PM

Begoggle: Kit Fister: I dunno, but I would consider having one less self-righteous douchebag in the world a positive...

He wasn't self-righteous, or a douchebag.
You, however...


Maybe so. However, it really is no business of anyone else what I believe, and shoving their beliefs into the faces of others, regardless of their beliefs, is pretty self-righteous. It's similar to how anyone who expresses a belief other than the "accepted Fark norm" gets practically bullied around here whether passively or actively because of their "stupidity".
 
2013-08-22 02:44:35 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: I live down the street from the biggest church in world. They preach their prosperity gospel in the name of a man who said that no rich man will make it into heaven. But THEY DON'T KILL the folks who call them greedy heretics. In fact, mostly they ignore them in favor of holding services in a basketball arena.


You're right, they don't take it to the extreme of killing folks very often over here (we have fairly well enforced laws that prohibit it).

Aside from that they are pretty much the same. Are we agreed?
 
2013-08-22 02:53:02 PM

Farking Canuck: You're right, they don't take it to the extreme of killing folks very often over here (we have fairly well enforced laws that prohibit it).

Aside from that they are pretty much the same. Are we agreed?


If you'll leave off the "fairly often", I'm in.

Certainly we have religiously motivated killings in America, but it's about more than just fleecing the flock when it happens.
 
2013-08-22 03:08:39 PM

Kit Fister: Begoggle: Kit Fister: I dunno, but I would consider having one less self-righteous douchebag in the world a positive...

He wasn't self-righteous, or a douchebag.
You, however...

Maybe so. However, it really is no business of anyone else what I believe, and shoving their beliefs into the faces of others, regardless of their beliefs, is pretty self-righteous. It's similar to how anyone who expresses a belief other than the "accepted Fark norm" gets practically bullied around here whether passively or actively because of their "stupidity".


Maybe you picked up a different sense of the man than I did, but I don't think he was breaking down people's doors or following them in the markets preaching about the evils of black magic. Sounds like he made regular trips out into the small towns / villages in the countryside, holding meetings (like a motivational speaker might) to talk about problems associated with religious extremism, black magic, snake oil salesmen, etc. In other words, nobody was forced to hear him speak, and he didn't cry out that his was was the one true way, and woe to those who failed to heed him. You seem to intentionally stretch the recollection of his deeds when you compare it to "shoving (his) beliefs into the faces of others".

So maybe tone down the rhetoric a little bit and deal with the facts of the situation and you won't get perceived as "stupid" or have to deal with being "buillied".
 
2013-08-22 03:16:25 PM

dionysusaur: Valiente: It's a glimpse into the near future in the West, I would think.

It's a race between the Fundies and the microbes. Good thing the Fundies don't believe in evolution, or they might join forces.


The God Germ?
 
2013-08-22 03:23:32 PM
"Believe such and such, or face eternity in hell!" - acceptable proselytizing.
"live in harmony with each other and use your brain" - shoving beliefs down people's throats.
 
2013-08-22 03:24:15 PM

KnowledgeJunkie: So maybe tone down the rhetoric a little bit and deal with the facts of the situation and you won't get perceived as "stupid" or have to deal with being "buillied".


If he only talked to those who willingly sought him out, I retract my statement. If he went out and actively attempted to preach, then I stand behind them.  I got the sense that his activism was more in the vein of the latter than the former.
 
2013-08-22 03:24:22 PM

megarian: Now this thread is dildos.


is this a filter?
 
2013-08-22 03:26:28 PM

meat0918: vpb: The Tea Baggers just had a new idea.

Consider the following: They had better stay the fark away from Bill Nye.


Or James Randi
 
2013-08-22 03:29:44 PM

impaler: "Believe such and such, or face eternity in hell!" - acceptable proselytizing.
"live in harmony with each other and use your brain" - shoving beliefs down people's throats.


no, actually, both are shoving your beliefs down people's throats.  it's active proselytizing that's the problem on all sides, and has been for thousands of years. If people were allowed to seek out and find the truth, and were given the resources to question and encouraged to do so without recourse, I think everyone would be a lot better off.

Frankly, I don't give a shiat if someone believes in God, Satan, or the FSM, or none of the above. I just don't want to hear about it, and be drilled into if I happen to state that I have a belief because I'm wrong. Trust me, when there exists evidence that contradicts my beliefs, I'll gladly re-evaluate my beliefs. But every day science finds out shiat that we previously thought was impossible, so, until there's evidence for or against, I'll choose to believe whatever seems sensible to me based on my own experiences plus scientific data.

And maybe we could all use a little less of the "crusader" Attitude and the need to *prove* people's beliefs wrong/silly/whatever.
 
2013-08-22 03:42:29 PM

Kit Fister: If people were allowed to seek out and find the truth, and were given the resources to question and encouraged to do so without recourse,


The people this guy was working with did not have the resources to find out "the truth" on their own. Nobody before him had encouraged them to question a single damned thing.

He wasn't working with middle class white folks in suburban San Francisco, he was working with people who barely have enough money to eat and didn't go to high-school, and very likely can barely read if they can at all.
 
2013-08-22 03:42:55 PM

Kit Fister: impaler: "Believe such and such, or face eternity in hell!" - acceptable proselytizing.
"live in harmony with each other and use your brain" - shoving beliefs down people's throats.

no, actually, both are shoving your beliefs down people's throats.  it's active proselytizing that's the problem on all sides, and has been for thousands of years. If people were allowed to seek out and find the truth, and were given the resources to question and encouraged to do so without recourse, I think everyone would be a lot better off.

Frankly, I don't give a shiat if someone believes in God, Satan, or the FSM, or none of the above. I just don't want to hear about it, and be drilled into if I happen to state that I have a belief because I'm wrong. Trust me, when there exists evidence that contradicts my beliefs, I'll gladly re-evaluate my beliefs. But every day science finds out shiat that we previously thought was impossible, so, until there's evidence for or against, I'll choose to believe whatever seems sensible to me based on my own experiences plus scientific data.

And maybe we could all use a little less of the "crusader" Attitude and the need to *prove* people's beliefs wrong/silly/whatever.


So parents shouldn't take their children to church?
 
2013-08-22 03:49:36 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: He wasn't working with middle class white folks in suburban San Francisco, he was working with people who barely have enough money to eat and didn't go to high-school, and very likely can barely read if they can at all.


But he really shouldn't have tried educating them. That would be "shoving belief down their throats," and it makes him no better than the charlatans who are actively preying on those people.

What I'm saying is that even though he was helping them for no personal gain, this is just like hurting them for personal gain.

Now you may be wondering how do we stop charlatans from taking advantage of people? We can't. Because when we do, we become just like them. Both sides are bad.
 
2013-08-22 03:50:27 PM

Egoy3k: So parents shouldn't take their children to church?


Or school. Don't want "beliefs" (i.e. knowledge) shoved down their throats.
 
2013-08-22 03:52:42 PM
In The Plague (La Peste), Albert Camus the existential philosopher and novelist, divided humanity into executioners (bourreaux), victims (victimes) and doctors (médicins). He urged men to be doctors, healers, rather than excutioners or victims.

This man seems to have taken that philosophy to heart.

FTA:
"He wanted to expose the people who cheat the poor in the name of gods, who promise false cures for cancer or do black magic to perform so-called miracles," Girme said. "He would say he was a medical doctor but that superstition was a bigger disease causing a lot of harm, especially to the poor and the gullible."


A healer of bodies and souls, of physical and mental diseases, of ignorance, the great enemy of love and wisdom and truth.

He may have been an atheist (or as close as an Indian and Hindu can get), but whatever his belief systems or prejudices as a man, he caught the essence of true faith and charity:

FTA:
Dabholkar had refused to join any political party and, while Hindu by birth, eschewed its traditional teachings. Instead, he believed that the best people could do for society was to "live in harmony with each other and use your brain," Girme said.


This is not the first time that I have heard this message. I saw it in an article by J.B.S. Haldane, who was not only a great scientist and popularizer of science, but also a great Indian in the last decade or so of his life. In the 1950s he emigrated to India (having learned to love it while a British soldier in World War I, and he and his wive lived there until he died in 1964 (IIRC).

This is the modern atheist and scientific answer to the Old Testament injunction quoted and glossed by Jesus in the New Testament:

Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&versi on =ESV">Matthew 22:36-40 ESV / 120 helpful votesOver the years I've seen a growing intolerance among many religions (and not just the fundamentalists who are notorious for it). Nationalism and bigotry are on the rise among many populations hard pressed by economic, political and social change, as well as confronting intellectual and religious diversity more than ever before.

You can find evidence of this in J.B.S. Haldane's native Scotland (at Edinburgh University, even) and in his adopted India, but it is global in nature.

We are forced to ask the musical question:   Why do the nations rage so furiously together, and why do they imagine a vain thing?

The question was answered long ago:  money, power, influence, greed and lust.

James 4
4From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?
2Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
3Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
4Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
5Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
6But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
7Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.



And here is Paul the Apostle on the same subject:Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
www.biblegateway.com="" passage="" search="Romans+13%3A8-10&version=ESV"" target="_blank">http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+13 %3A8-10&version=E SV">Romans 13:8-10  ESV / 101 helpful votes Let us join the protesters against this murder and say with them "We are all  Dabholkar."

FTA:
"The atmosphere of intolerance and anti-science attitude is sweeping the Indian subcontinent," the scientists said in a statement. "There is a deliberate plot to push our society towards fanaticism."


This is true of every continent (except perhaps Antarctica, which is populated almost entirely with scientists).

In France (and Quebec) intolerance is pushing away all signs of faith except for the State Religion (which is especially ironic, seeing as France is a secular state, albeit overwhelmingly Roman Catholic).

In Russia the Eastern Orthodox Church is all but established and persecutes not only gays and lesbians, or chick bands, but other religions and sects such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormans, and even Jedi and Hobbits.

In the US, it is mostly Muslims (but also anybody brown and foreign-looking, such as Sikhs and Hindus, and even Jews and Christians if they look like Arabs or Muslims). In Egypt the Copts, in Israel the Marionite Christians, Druze and Muslims, every where somebody is persecuted and possibly killed for religion or lack thereof.

I had some good news a day or two ago: Ottawa, where I live, was named the top city in a group of cities that included London, New York and Copenhagen, for its talent, technology and tolerance. And I can see that when I walk the streets. You seldom hear a catcall, even from pickup trucks or cars full of teenagers, you seldom see any sign of intolerance, while we are called "Silicon Valley North" (just as many cities are called the Athens of the North). You can see the prosperity and the well-being that comes from bringing together talent and technology and tolerance to build for all rather than the few and the supposedly right and righteous.

Most religions boast of their martyrs and many boast of the martyrs they have made of others, but reason, science and atheism should never be like these.

There are only two legs to the Law according to the Torah, Christ, and us Unbelievers: love for all and love for the truth, justice and beauty, whether it is found in God, Nature, Reason, Science, or Man.

Let us agree on one thing: we are all Dabholkar. We are all Spartacus. We are all God's Chillun whenever we have rime or reason, rhythm or righteousness in our minds and in our hearts.

All God's Chillun got rhythm.
All God's Chillun got wings.
But all God's chillun ain't got shoes.

And sadly, they've got guns, we've got guns, all God's chillun got guns.
 
2013-08-22 04:22:32 PM
WHAT!?  Who would gun-down someone just because.... oh, it's Inda.  Nevermind.
 
2013-08-22 04:58:50 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: If you'll leave off the "fairly often", I'm in.


Actually I said "they don't do it very often". (slightly paraphrased for clarity)
 
2013-08-22 05:03:15 PM

Farking Canuck: I May Be Crazy But...: If you'll leave off the "fairly often", I'm in.

Actually I said "they don't do it very often". (slightly paraphrased for clarity)


Apparently reading isn't my strong suit, then.
 
2013-08-22 05:14:37 PM
Its pretty frickin scary that those people have nuclear weapons
And that they are in a sorta war with their equally batshiat crazy neighbors that also have nuclear weapons
 
2013-08-22 06:02:09 PM
TFA: "He would say he was a medical doctor but that superstition was a bigger disease causing a lot of harm, especially to the poor and the gullible."

Superstition was a bigger disease than being a medical doctor? Methinks this sentence was poorly phrased.
 
2013-08-23 03:44:57 PM

Kit Fister: KnowledgeJunkie: So maybe tone down the rhetoric a little bit and deal with the facts of the situation and you won't get perceived as "stupid" or have to deal with being "buillied".

If he only talked to those who willingly sought him out, I retract my statement. If he went out and actively attempted to preach, then I stand behind them.  I got the sense that his activism was more in the vein of the latter than the former.


Well, it sounds like you're going for the secondary definition of preach: "to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action;specifically: to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner". I don't perceive this as tiresome or officious- it's more like going around and warning your immediate neighbors of a gas leak, or perhaps being the person who flags people down on the highway when there's a hazard ahead on the road. I differentiate what he does compared to what a standard preacher would do by the fact that what he claims is backed by facts and the scientific method.

ko_kyi: megarian: Now this thread is dildos.

is this a filter?


No- Metalocalypse reference in regards to a post up-thread.
 
2013-08-23 04:58:01 PM

KnowledgeJunkie: Well, it sounds like you're going for the secondary definition of preach: "to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action;specifically: to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner". I don't perceive this as tiresome or officious- it's more like going around and warning your immediate neighbors of a gas leak, or perhaps being the person who flags people down on the highway when there's a hazard ahead on the road. I differentiate what he does compared to what a standard preacher would do by the fact that what he claims is backed by facts and the scientific method.


If he's doing so to warn people who are actively involving themselves in practices that directly harm them, then I might agree. however, if not, then he has no business doing any of that unless they seek him out and ask questions.  It comes down to this: If i want advice on a religion, I will seek out someone who practices that religion and is knowledgeable about same. If I'm curious about something scientific, I'll seek out a scientist. But people of EITHER side who intrude and attempt to educate me without my invitation are equally meeting that former criteria and are equally unwelcome.
 
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