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(Al Jazeera)   Excess iron linked to Alzheimer's Disease. Didn't we just have a thread about copper causing this? Or was it lead? I'm confused. I like cats   (america.aljazeera.com) divider line 65
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2013-08-22 12:14:11 PM
It all causes Alzheimer's

All of it.

It also causes Alzheimer's.
 
2013-08-22 12:49:57 PM
Man, we really have to ban these elements.  They seem to be the cause of everything.
 
2013-08-22 12:55:35 PM
www.giantfreakinrobot.com
 
2013-08-22 01:32:42 PM
 good headline sub.
 
2013-08-22 01:32:51 PM
It's caused by aluminum, everyone knows that
 
2013-08-22 01:33:54 PM
I think excess sperm causes memory loss, because I can never remember a woman's name until she makes me orgasm.
 
2013-08-22 01:35:05 PM

meat0918: It all causes Alzheimer's

All of it.

It also causes Alzheimer's.


Essentially, the entire periodic table, entropy, and the fundamental forces of physics are out to get us.
 
2013-08-22 01:35:41 PM
Do I know you?
 
2013-08-22 01:36:01 PM
Alzheimers disease is caused by too much moral derpitude as a youth.
 
2013-08-22 01:36:16 PM
There's an older woman that comes in with her friend/caretaker at a restaurant near where I work.  I'm not sure what stage she is, but she will point at something and her speech comes out like she's skipping.  "ad ad ad ad ad ad ad ad" and then laugh like she's just said something funny.  Also doesn't like disruptions to what table/seat she sits at.

It makes me horribly sad.
 
2013-08-22 01:40:30 PM
You sank my battleship
 
2013-08-22 01:41:36 PM
/I will NOT quit using my cast iron
//I wil NOT quit using foil on my food for the grill
///YOU can't make me...
 
2013-08-22 01:42:52 PM
My friend has two cats but she hasn't shown me any pictures proving she does.
 
2013-08-22 01:43:28 PM

You Are All Sheep: There's an older woman that comes in with her friend/caretaker at a restaurant near where I work.  I'm not sure what stage she is, but she will point at something and her speech comes out like she's skipping.  "ad ad ad ad ad ad ad ad" and then laugh like she's just said something funny.  Also doesn't like disruptions to what table/seat she sits at.

It makes me horribly sad.


My grandmother used to pet dogs that weren't there and would cuss at empty chairs.  Visits to the nursing home where always hard.
 
2013-08-22 01:44:04 PM

Gunny Highway: where


were

/not my day
 
2013-08-22 01:44:43 PM

WeenerGord: It's caused by aluminum, everyone knows that


No, it's the sunblock all along.
 
2013-08-22 01:47:48 PM
Guy goes to the doctor. Doc says "I'm afraid I have some bad news. You have cancer." The man says "Wow, that's horrible." The doctor says "That's not all, you also have Alzheimers." The man thinks about it for a second and replies "Well, at least I don't have cancer."


/try the veal.
 
2013-08-22 01:48:22 PM
Al Jazeera is NOTa legitimate new source, mods!
 
2013-08-22 01:48:40 PM
I like cats, too.

Anyway, make sure you don't ingest too much lead, or copper, or aluminium, or lead, or copper, or especially aluminium.
 
2013-08-22 01:49:02 PM
So basically all metals cause alzheimer's.  Got it.

Though I read "free radical damage" and instantly lost interest.  I was waiting for the article to recommend acai berry at that point.
 
2013-08-22 01:49:11 PM
Oooh, another crackpot idea of mine bearing fruit. You see, for decades I have preached about the benefits of regularly donating blood. Not to save or help anyone, no, but to save/help yourself. First, donating a pint of blood is -600 calories :). Second, it's like getting an oil change, as the body must replace the old RBC by making fresh ones. Third, I believe it prepares the body for a catastrophic accidental blood loss, since it is used to losing a pint every 8 weeks, it is more able to handle accidents. And fourth, this one having the relevance to the thread topic, donating blood is the treatment/prevention of a disease called HEMOCROMATOSIS (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hemochromatosis/DS00455) which is too much iron building up in the body, damaging organs. Now, it appears blood donation might help prevent Alzheimer's Disease!

Why blood banks don't educate the population about the personal benefits of blood donation is beyond me. They would get far more donors if there was something in it for them besides fig newtons and cranberry juice.
 
2013-08-22 01:49:24 PM

apotheosis27:  good headline sub.


I concur. I also like cats.
 
2013-08-22 01:49:36 PM

phantomerick: Al Jazeera is NOTa legitimate new source, mods!


How does it rate on a scale of Daily Mail to Opposing Views?
 
2013-08-22 01:50:02 PM
You sank my battleship.
 
2013-08-22 01:53:31 PM
The key word here is: excessive
 
2013-08-22 01:54:24 PM
Bartzokis believes that iron supplements should be made available only by prescription.

WTF?
 
2013-08-22 01:59:07 PM
What's with all the Al-Jazeera links all of a sudden?
 
2013-08-22 01:59:49 PM

JesseL: Bartzokis believes that iron supplements should be made available only by prescription.

WTF?


It's cool, I was confused, too. He meant irons as in ironing clothes. They're dangerous. Burns and fires and whatnot. At least I hope that's what he meant.
 
2013-08-22 02:03:10 PM
Science. That's where my faith is...
 
2013-08-22 02:04:18 PM
"Wots all this talk about iron, man?"

legacy-cdn.smosh.com
 
2013-08-22 02:06:35 PM
Cheese is good!
 
2013-08-22 02:10:24 PM

gito: apotheosis27:  good headline sub.

I concur. I also like cats.


Came here to check that this was said. Good kitty.
 
2013-08-22 02:10:56 PM
So.... we circle back to LEECHES and bloodletting?
 
2013-08-22 02:11:05 PM
So heavy metals cause damage to soft tissues? You don't say...
 
2013-08-22 02:14:03 PM

ReverendJynxed: So heavy metals cause damage to soft tissues? You don't say...


Try Dream Theater. Much lighter, but still awesome...not /too/ hard on soft tissues.
 
2013-08-22 02:16:19 PM

FarkinHostile: And fourth, this one having the relevance to the thread topic, donating blood is the treatment/prevention of a disease called HEMOCROMATOSIS (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hemochromatosis/DS00455) which is too much iron building up in the body, damaging organs. Now, it appears blood donation might help prevent Alzheimer's Disease!


My mom has to do that from time to time.  I haven't had my iron levels checked in over a decade, when I showed to be high but not in the red.  I've got enough wrong with me as it is, so I'd rather not have it confirmed totally and have to change my diet.  Also, I refuse to give blood.  I have a hard time with the little bit they take for tests.  It makes no sense, because I can cut or smash something and bleed all over the place without issue, but the second they put a needle in to drain me (No needle issue either, shots and IVs never bugged me), I see colors and turn grey.  I think I'd rather just die younger without knowing.
 
2013-08-22 02:18:00 PM
Is it Caturday already?

I was distracted by removing all the metal pipes in my basement.
 
2013-08-22 02:25:39 PM
I live in Detroit, so I'm pretty sure all the copper and anything metal-related that you can scrap is already removed.
 
2013-08-22 02:26:16 PM

You Are All Sheep: There's an older woman that comes in with her friend/caretaker at a restaurant near where I work.  I'm not sure what stage she is, but she will point at something and her speech comes out like she's skipping.  "ad ad ad ad ad ad ad ad" and then laugh like she's just said something funny.  Also doesn't like disruptions to what table/seat she sits at.

It makes me horribly sad.


Context really matters with people with Alzheimer's and whether or not they're saddening.

<csb>

My wife's grandmother has what we call a 90 second conversation cycle.  She can keep track of somewhere between a minute and a minute and a half of information at a go.  As long as she is telling a story that she can follow the content of within that window she can keep telling it, even if it exceeds the window.  Although she does tend to cycle through several related items repeatedly if they're all short.  And if she gets on tangents that eat up the window from a longer running story she probably won't get back to it.

While it is somewhat sad, she's very gracious about it. She's excited to talk to you as much as you're willing to listen.  She'll talk for hours about traveling and her husband.

My grandfather did something similar for a few years before he died, but all he could remember was things from WW2, it was like hours of sitting and listening to a slightly buzzed version of him tell war stories in a pub.  Most of them were...not the good kind of war stories (of which there definitely are some out there).


Grampa made me feel sad, because all he could do was relive trauma.  Nana doesn't make me feel nearly as sad, because she is reliving positive experiences.

</csb>
 
2013-08-22 02:37:06 PM
funnyjust.com


Heavy metal cat approves of this thread.
 
2013-08-22 02:37:18 PM
A decade or so ago it was definitely aluminum.
 
2013-08-22 02:41:03 PM
Wait.  What was that?  Irony causes Aljazeera?
 
2013-08-22 02:52:49 PM
You sank my battleship..
 
2013-08-22 02:55:14 PM
Subby I find that headline offensive!!

WHAT IS THIS COLORED FAMILY DOING IN MY HOUSE??!! AND WHO CHANGED THE LOCKS??!!

I'm going to write a letter to Mayor La Guardia about this!!!!
 
2013-08-22 03:13:13 PM

lilbjorn: A decade or so ago it was definitely aluminum.


When I was in college, I knew a guy that wouldn't use deodorant because it had aluminum in it and knew that it caused Alzheimer's.  I couldn't decide if he was crazy, stupid, or just kinky about his own stinky.
 
2013-08-22 03:21:36 PM
If excess iron is linked, how many of the people with this excess have hemochromatosis?
 
2013-08-22 03:26:17 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Alzheimers disease is caused by too much moral derpitude as a youth.


uh oh
 
2013-08-22 03:28:24 PM

MonoChango: lilbjorn: A decade or so ago it was definitely aluminum.

When I was in college, I knew a guy that wouldn't use deodorant because it had aluminum in it and knew that it caused Alzheimer's.  I couldn't decide if he was crazy, stupid, or just kinky about his own stinky.


Actually, that's anti-perspirant, not deodorant. And that's not crazy, actually. BUT... the link to alzheimers is not proven. It's also not unproven. But deodorant is much better for you than anti-perspirant.
 
2013-08-22 03:36:10 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-22 03:40:01 PM
mathewpeet.org
 
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