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(Hot Air)   Chris Matthews: Calling Obama "Obama" is a way of delegitimizing him. Just like "Bush", "Palin", "Rubio", "Christie", etc   (hotair.com) divider line 163
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2013-08-22 03:27:57 PM  

Hung Like A Tic-Tac: They are bringing back Ed Schultz for the 5pm slot.


God, please, no.
 
2013-08-22 03:37:18 PM  

factoryconnection: ManateeGag: shut up Chris, you farking idiot.

I'm not sure who Chris Matthews is, but this is probably the best course on this matter. There are actual things to worry about.


Short version: Matthews is a pundit on MSNBC who never met an ass he didn't want to kiss.  Dude practically fellated Bush during his time in office, and then did the same to Obama when he went in, and has used just as ridiculous "reasoning" on both.  He is the political equivalent of a starfarker, and he has yet to have anything cogent come out of his mouth.
 
2013-08-22 03:50:17 PM  

cman: We get it. He's black


www.blogcdn.com
Well, maybe on his mother's side.
 
2013-08-22 03:55:45 PM  

Somacandra: Lionel Mandrake: George Washington came up with "Mr. President" when people started calling him "your Majesty."  It stuck.

I prefer Generalissimo ChairMAO B-Rock "The Islamic Shock" Hussein al-Chicago FartbaMAO

with extra MAO. And you scream the "AL-CHICAGO!!" part.


This made me LOL.

CSB: I was ordering my business cards and I saw that "Esq." was available as a suffix. I know in the US it is used by lawyers, but I wondered what the requirement was. I googled it and found a site that said something to the effect of "In the US there is no organization that officially qualifies people to use the title. In short, any self-important douchebag can use it."

So as a gag I checked the box, figuring that my manager wouldn't approve it. Low and behold I have 500 business cards that say "Jst3p Esq. Unix System Administrator"

Since I am not customer facing I hardly use them but it was good for a laugh.
 
2013-08-22 03:56:27 PM  
Chris Matthews is the Democrat equivalent of Rush Limbaugh. Hes a retard
 
2013-08-22 03:56:35 PM  
Homobama
0bama
Fartbama
Fartbongo
Obamao
Snobama
Osama
Taxbongo
Nobama

Frankly, I'm surprised Fox News still uses his actual last name; what with all the creative alternatives.
 
2013-08-22 03:59:17 PM  

HighOnCraic: I'd be insulted if someone called me a Palin. . .


I would start to be insulted, but then quit.
 
2013-08-22 04:00:06 PM  
I see what he means - they use his name to make him seem foreign, evil, ect. But that's nothing new, he just said what has been a long-running truth.

Same as how some of the more derpy sorts call the D-party "democrat". "The democrat party....", as if ending in "Rat", or if nothing else pissing off the libs is the goal.
 
2013-08-22 04:00:13 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Homobama
0bama
Fartbama
Fartbongo
Obamao
Snobama
Osama
Taxbongo
Nobama

Frankly, I'm surprised Fox News still uses his actual last name; what with all the creative alternatives.


You forgot Obammy. And for some reason freepers call his wife Mooshel
 
2013-08-22 04:09:11 PM  

jst3p: for some reason freepers call his wife Mooshel


It's because they are literally blind with stupidity and think that she's fat, so they made her name say "moo". Like a cow.

Someone who was not a seven year old came up with that, and it was repeated by other people who were also not seven year olds. Sigh.
 
2013-08-22 04:09:24 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: "dip-shiat conservative blogger"?


My dreams will now forever be haunted.

Thanks, Ass....

/seriously that was a funny gif
//dreams will still be haunted
///what has been seen, cannot be unseen
 
2013-08-22 04:12:32 PM  

thurstonxhowell: jst3p: for some reason freepers call his wife Mooshel

It's because they are literally blind with stupidity and think that she's fat, so they made her name say "moo". Like a cow.

Someone who was not a seven year old came up with that, and it was repeated by other people who were also not seven year olds. Sigh.


Dude, you gotta say something because you just can't call them N***** out-loud anymore because of teh Libruls....

/wish I was joking
//grew up in the south
///America makes me haz a sad
 
2013-08-22 04:15:53 PM  
Ah, for the days when Chris would express himself with the delightfully lyrical asdfasdf.  Sadly, those days are but a dim memory.......
 
2013-08-22 04:18:07 PM  

machoprogrammer: Chris Matthews is the Democrat equivalent of Rush Limbaugh. Hes a retard


Chris Matthews had a lot of good things to say about Bush when he was President. So your analogy is pretty pathetic.
 
2013-08-22 04:18:26 PM  

Aristocles: Lando Lincoln: I don't like it when people call the President "Mister." Mister Obama. Mister Bush. It's not a breach of protocol, but I think it should be.

Actually, that's standard in journalism. The first reference will be to "President X" and any subsequent references will be to "Mr. X"


That's the standard the Wall Street Journal and almost no one else follows. AP standard has subsequent references that use the name and not the title as the last name by itself.

So if the first reference is "President Obama", then second reference is "the president" or "Obama."

I think it's just laziness to avoid having to remember if someone has a doctorate, or in the case of a woman, if she's married.
 
2013-08-22 04:23:40 PM  
President Hussein Obama, sponsored by Christ on a Cracker. Whassup, Hussein?

Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

The stupid.....it burns.

 
2013-08-22 04:26:20 PM  

lantawa: President Hussein Obama, sponsored by Christ on a Cracker. Whassup, Hussein?

Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

The stupid.....it burns.


McCain or Romney? Really? The GoP has no one but itself to blame for losing those elections.
 
2013-08-22 04:28:10 PM  

Car_Ramrod: DeaH: Left-wing, right-wing, I think we can  all come together as a nation and agree that Chis Mathews is a douche.

America, united once again.

He looks like the kind of guy that would always be sweaty.


I think you mean fresh as a summer's eve.
 
2013-08-22 04:28:54 PM  

jst3p: McCain or Romney? Really? The GoP has no one but itself to blame for losing those elections.


I'll never understand the Palin pick. A better VP candidate could have made the difference in '08. Scratched my head so much on that one that I created a bald spot.
 
2013-08-22 04:33:35 PM  

lantawa: jst3p: McCain or Romney? Really? The GoP has no one but itself to blame for losing those elections.

I'll never understand the Palin pick. A better VP candidate could have made the difference in '08. Scratched my head so much on that one that I created a bald spot.


I think after 8 years of Bush and the economic disaster that we were in (not that it was his fault, completely) a Democrat, almost anyone they put up, was going to win.
 
2013-08-22 04:33:36 PM  
I haven't read the article, but what I think he might be getting at (and failing spectacularly to communicate) is that conservatives' hatred of Obama is so great, his name has turned into a kind of slur for them.

It's also one of those foreign-sounding names, so focusing on it and drawing it out might be seen as trying to remind everyone he's not a Real American.

So it's not the fact that they are saying his name, it's why and how they are saying his name.
 
2013-08-22 04:34:58 PM  

Churchill2004: Lando Lincoln: I don't like it when people call the President "Mister." Mister Obama. Mister Bush. It's not a breach of protocol, but I think it should be.

There's a difference between addressing the President and referring to him. It would be very odd to read a sentence in a newspaper like "Mr. President signed legislation today"- his name is not "President".  That's not how the form of address is used. If you were actually talking to Obama in person you wouldn't call him "Mr. Obama"- that would be a breach of protocol, absent the unusual circumstance of Presidential debates, where the incumbent drops the title (and usually their opponent is not refered to by their title, either, to create equality between them).

Aristocles: Actually, that's standard in journalism. The first reference will be to "President X" and any subsequent references will be to "Mr. X"

Which makes perfect sense.


I would think you'd call him President Obama in news articles.
 
2013-08-22 04:42:22 PM  

lantawa: President Hussein Obama, sponsored by Christ on a Cracker. Whassup, Hussein?

Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

The stupid.....it burns.


Let me help you out a bit.  Obama won twice because he is a sober and competent individual who goes out of his way to speak to what is best in us, even if he doesn't always live up to it.  And also because his opposition is really, really farking terrible and everybody can see it.
 
2013-08-22 05:01:36 PM  

HeartBurnKid: lantawa: President Hussein Obama, sponsored by Christ on a Cracker. Whassup, Hussein?

Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

The stupid.....it burns.

Let me help you out a bit.  Obama won twice because he is a sober and competent individual who goes out of his way to speak to what is best in us, even if he doesn't always live up to it.  And also because his opposition is really, really farking terrible and everybody can see it.


He's alright. Passable, even.
 
2013-08-22 05:05:21 PM  
Back in 92, Clinton would always refer to Bush as "Mr. Bush" instead of "President Bush", or "Mr. President" (during the debates).  I wonder why it has taken 20 years for Matthews to get upset about it.
 
2013-08-22 05:17:30 PM  

lantawa: Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.


Hmmm...what could it be...

Oh yeah. I remember.

s3.amazonaws.com

media.salon.com
 
2013-08-22 05:23:00 PM  

LiberalWeenie: I haven't read the article, but what I think he might be getting at (and failing spectacularly to communicate) is that conservatives' hatred of Obama is so great, his name has turned into a kind of slur for them.

It's also one of those foreign-sounding names, so focusing on it and drawing it out might be seen as trying to remind everyone he's not a Real American.

So it's not the fact that they are saying his name, it's why and how they are saying his name.


His...  His name has become a Derping Word.  They can Derp with just his name alone.
 
2013-08-22 06:00:08 PM  

Lando Lincoln: lantawa: Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

Hmmm...what could it be...

Oh yeah. I remember.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x418]

[media.salon.com image 660x440]


Yeah. So we get this instead

i466.photobucket.com

Not to say that I don't dig out a few, now and then, myself.
 
2013-08-22 06:32:41 PM  

lantawa: Lando Lincoln: lantawa: Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

Hmmm...what could it be...

Oh yeah. I remember.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x418]

[media.salon.com image 660x440]

Yeah. So we get this instead

[i466.photobucket.com image 325x410]

Not to say that I don't dig out a few, now and then, myself.


Obama picked his nose in public.

Bush started two land wars in Asia.

McCain thought that picking Caribou Barbie as his running mate was a good idea.

Romney overtly and unabashedly used the deaths of four Americans for political gain.


If the worst thing that Obama's done was pick his nose in public, then he's doing a damn good job as President.

/he could be doing a better job, particularly on the whole domestic espionage deal
//on the other side of the coin, it has been going on for a long time and would be happening now regardless of who was currently sitting within arm's reach of the Big Red Button
///unless the person with the ability to cause a mass extinction event at the push of a button decided to do so, in which case the issue of the day would be less "why is the NSA spying on 300 million people?" and more "how will the last surviving million people cope?"
 
2013-08-22 06:38:20 PM  

HighOnCraic: I'd be insulted if someone called me a Palin. . .


Now Whats Wrong with being a "Palin" 
www.urbanhonking.com
 
2013-08-22 06:42:10 PM  

King Something: lantawa: Lando Lincoln: lantawa: Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

Hmmm...what could it be...

Oh yeah. I remember.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x418]

[media.salon.com image 660x440]

Yeah. So we get this instead

[i466.photobucket.com image 325x410]

Not to say that I don't dig out a few, now and then, myself.

Obama picked his nose in public.

Bush started two land wars in Asia.

McCain thought that picking Caribou Barbie as his running mate was a good idea.

Romney overtly and unabashedly used the deaths of four Americans for political gain.


If the worst thing that Obama's done was pick his nose in public, then he's doing a damn good job as President.

/he could be doing a better job, particularly on the whole domestic espionage deal
//on the other side of the coin, it has been going on for a long time and would be happening now regardless of who was currently sitting within arm's reach of the Big Red Button
///unless the person with the ability to cause a mass extinction event at the push of a button decided to do so, in which case the issue of the day would be less "why is the NSA spying on 300 million people?" and more "how will the last surviving million people cope?"


Slashies.  Slashies everywhere....
 
2013-08-22 07:00:54 PM  
i'll say it again: obama supporters are the biggest pussies in the world
 
2013-08-22 07:34:48 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Churchill2004: If you were actually talking to Obama in person you wouldn't call him "Mr. Obama"- that would be a breach of protocol, absent the unusual circumstance of Presidential debates, where the incumbent drops the title (and usually their opponent is not refered to by their title, either, to create equality between them).

That's not true. Obama constantly referred to Romney as Governor, and Romney referred to Obama as "the President" or "Mr. President".


Cataholic: Back in 92, Clinton would always refer to Bush as "Mr. Bush" instead of "President Bush", or "Mr. President" (during the debates).  I wonder why it has taken 20 years for Matthews to get upset about it.


Apparently in 2012, the campaigns agreed to use the titles. I know in 2004 in particular they didn't, and in some debates before that.
 
2013-08-22 07:35:17 PM  

Cataholic: Back in 92, Clinton would always refer to Bush as "Mr. Bush" instead of "President Bush", or "Mr. President" (during the debates).  I wonder why it has taken 20 years for Matthews to get upset about it.


I was beginning to wonder if anyone but me remembered that. Wasn't there a bit of a flap about it at the time, and then it caught on and everyone did it? I don't recall it ever being common usage before Clinton did it.
 
2013-08-22 07:35:48 PM  

Churchill2004: Car_Ramrod: Churchill2004: If you were actually talking to Obama in person you wouldn't call him "Mr. Obama"- that would be a breach of protocol, absent the unusual circumstance of Presidential debates, where the incumbent drops the title (and usually their opponent is not refered to by their title, either, to create equality between them).

That's not true. Obama constantly referred to Romney as Governor, and Romney referred to Obama as "the President" or "Mr. President".

Cataholic: Back in 92, Clinton would always refer to Bush as "Mr. Bush" instead of "President Bush", or "Mr. President" (during the debates).  I wonder why it has taken 20 years for Matthews to get upset about it.

Apparently in 2012, the campaigns agreed to use the titles. I know in 2004 in particular they didn't, and in some debates before that.


Forgot to add: there's a difference between how they're introduced/addressed by the moderator, which is governed by the rules, and how they address each other, which may or may not be covered.
 
2013-08-22 08:29:17 PM  

Churchill2004: Car_Ramrod: Churchill2004: If you were actually talking to Obama in person you wouldn't call him "Mr. Obama"- that would be a breach of protocol, absent the unusual circumstance of Presidential debates, where the incumbent drops the title (and usually their opponent is not refered to by their title, either, to create equality between them).

That's not true. Obama constantly referred to Romney as Governor, and Romney referred to Obama as "the President" or "Mr. President".

Cataholic: Back in 92, Clinton would always refer to Bush as "Mr. Bush" instead of "President Bush", or "Mr. President" (during the debates).  I wonder why it has taken 20 years for Matthews to get upset about it.

Apparently in 2012, the campaigns agreed to use the titles. I know in 2004 in particular they didn't, and in some debates before that.


Just a random titbit:

Back on 15 April 1865, the NYT's headline was "President Lincoln Shot by an Assassin" and repeatedly referred to him as "the President" throughout the article.

Contrast to today's headline of "On Bus Tour, Obama Seeks to Shame Colleges Into Easing Costs" and referring to him as "Mr. Obama" (which I know is acceptable) in the article.
 
2013-08-22 08:40:07 PM  

erveek: Aristocles: Lando Lincoln: I don't like it when people call the President "Mister." Mister Obama. Mister Bush. It's not a breach of protocol, but I think it should be.

Actually, that's standard in journalism. The first reference will be to "President X" and any subsequent references will be to "Mr. X"

That's the standard the Wall Street Journal and almost no one else follows. AP standard has subsequent references that use the name and not the title as the last name by itself.

So if the first reference is "President Obama", then second reference is "the president" or "Obama."

I think it's just laziness to avoid having to remember if someone has a doctorate, or in the case of a woman, if she's married.


Except for, you know, NPR and the NYT (as cited above) and numerous other rags.
 
2013-08-22 08:48:58 PM  
How the hell was Tip O'Neill able to stand toe to toe with Reagan with this idiot as a top aide?

/didn't click link
//Hot Air: does exactly what it says on the tin
 
2013-08-22 09:34:43 PM  
Reminds me of how some people insisted it was improper to not refer to "President James Carter" and "President William Clinton" despite both men preferring their nicknames.
 
2013-08-22 09:39:47 PM  

Churchill2004: Reminds me of how some people insisted it was improper to not refer to "President James Carter" and "President William Clinton" despite both men preferring their nicknames.


CSB:

When I was in the Army I had this one LT who came in from the National Guard to the regular Army.

Motherfarker talked to everyone of us. He wouldn't let you leave unless you called him by his first name.

It was very awkward because that is a big taboo. Even till this day I refer to my former Lieutenant (Not the same one, a different one) as "Sir". I still refer to my old squad leader as "Sergeant".

Its rude and inconsiderate to ask an underling to refer to them by their first name.
 
2013-08-22 10:07:35 PM  

Churchill2004: Lando Lincoln: I don't like it when people call the President "Mister." Mister Obama. Mister Bush. It's not a breach of protocol, but I think it should be.

There's a difference between addressing the President and referring to him. It would be very odd to read a sentence in a newspaper like "Mr. President signed legislation today"- his name is not "President".  That's not how the form of address is used. If you were actually talking to Obama in person you wouldn't call him "Mr. Obama"- that would be a breach of protocol, absent the unusual circumstance of Presidential debates, where the incumbent drops the title (and usually their opponent is not refered to by their title, either, to create equality between them).

Aristocles: Actually, that's standard in journalism. The first reference will be to "President X" and any subsequent references will be to "Mr. X"

Which makes perfect sense.


And didn't we go through this when Obama was first elected? And for the same idiotic reason?
 
2013-08-22 10:47:58 PM  

cman: Its rude and inconsiderate to ask an underling to refer to them by their first name


I get your point, but I am extremely uncomfortable with the implication that I am the president's "underling".
 
2013-08-22 10:59:29 PM  
Sarah Palin used to do this all the time during the 2008 campaign.  She'd refer to "Obama" and "McCain" instead of "Senator Obama" and "Senator McCain"
 
2013-08-22 11:12:04 PM  

cman: Even till this day I refer to my former Lieutenant (Not the same one, a different one) as "Sir"


But you wouldn't refer to him like that in the third person, unless you're his butler or he's a British actor.
 
2013-08-22 11:56:33 PM  
jigger: People like Lando here would love to grovel and scrape and call the US president Your Highness or My Lord.


i.imgur.com

THE F*CK??

AND BLASPHEMOUS A$$H0LE$ LIKE YOU WANNA PUT FALSE WORDS IN MY MOUTH WHEN
I CAN'T DEFEND MYSELF, AND THEN HAVE THE GALL TO CLAIM ME AS YOUR SAINT??
 
2013-08-22 11:59:57 PM  

the_dude_abides: i'll say it again: obama supporters are the biggest pussies in the world


We're not terrified that Obama is going to take our guns, or that's he's going to force Obamacare down our throats, or raise our taxes eleventy billion percent, or replace our current legal system with Sharia law. Your side is, though. Pussies. Afraid of shiat that doesn't even pose a threat.
 
2013-08-23 12:01:27 AM  

lantawa: Yeah. So we get this instead


A photoshop?
 
2013-08-23 12:12:17 AM  

Lando Lincoln: lantawa: Yeah. So we get this instead

A photoshop?


IT'S REAL TO HIM, DAMMIT!
 
2013-08-23 12:22:07 AM  

Lando Lincoln: lantawa: Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

Hmmm...what could it be...

Oh yeah. I remember.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x418]

[media.salon.com image 660x440]


And he said "slim majority".  Hah.  Lesse...  Nearly 10 million popular votes more than McCain, and over twice the electoral votes.  Romney wasn't quite as massive a win, but it was still by no rational way a "slim" win.
 
2013-08-23 12:22:58 AM  

MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: lantawa: Still scratching my head and wondering how a majority of Americans, slim majority that it was, voted for this guy....twice no less.

Hmmm...what could it be...

Oh yeah. I remember.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x418]

[media.salon.com image 660x440]

And he said "slim majority".  Hah.  Lesse...  Nearly 10 million popular votes more than McCain, and over twice the electoral votes.  Romney wasn't quite as massive a win, but it was still by no rational way a "slim" win.


VS. Romney, even.
 
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