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2013-08-22 02:13:31 PM

thegrievingmole: And not needing lube for masturbation.


This is what uncircumcised people actually believe.
 
2013-08-22 02:14:14 PM

CJHardin: I guess my point is that both procedures are in my opinion equally unnecessary and harmful and I disagree with their continuance in modern medicine.


Your opinion, however, does not mean the procedures actually are equally unnecessary. In particular, there are some medical benefits to male circumcision. You may (and probably do) disagree that those benefits outweigh the risks or potential detriment, but that's a private medical decision.
However, there are no medical benefits to female genital mutilation.
 
2013-08-22 02:14:16 PM

loaba: God Is My Co-Pirate: Yeah, up here in Canada there really is a big trend away from it.

Trend - exactly.

Basically, for me, it comes down to how well I can police my kids. I have a hard enough time mandating showers and teeth brushing. Having to add cock cleaning to the list wouldn't kill me, but it would be just one more thing to remind 'em about.

And really, if it's just a trend-thing... Don't need it.


I love this argument. Are there a lot of circumcised guys out the NOT cleaning their junk?
 
2013-08-22 02:16:01 PM

Theaetetus: CJHardin: I guess my point is that both procedures are in my opinion equally unnecessary and harmful and I disagree with their continuance in modern medicine.

Your opinion, however, does not mean the procedures actually are equally unnecessary. In particular, there are some medical benefits to male circumcision. You may (and probably do) disagree that those benefits outweigh the risks or potential detriment, but that's a private medical decision.
However, there are no medical benefits to female genital mutilation.


I like how this^ was worded, too.
 
2013-08-22 02:16:09 PM
TEAM HELMET

/Like the fact that I don't look like Eurotrash when nekkid.
 
2013-08-22 02:18:47 PM

Gilligann: thegrievingmole: And not needing lube for masturbation.

This is what uncircumcised people actually believe.


'Believe' as in 'atheism is a religion'. They don't need it, so they don't consider it.
 
2013-08-22 02:19:53 PM
This topic always brings out the dicks.
 
2013-08-22 02:20:04 PM
Uncut, and happy that way.
 
2013-08-22 02:24:30 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: It frightens and disgusts me that so many people are adamant that knives be taken to infants' genitals.


Seems that by using words like frightened and disgusted you're the one who's being adamant.  Me, I'm pro choice and I'm fine with whatever the parents decide.
 
2013-08-22 02:33:44 PM

Theaetetus: In particular, there are some medical benefits to male circumcision.


This is the one of the most disingenuous arguments for circumcision. EVERY single alleged benefit is easily obtained with basic hygiene and condom use. All without an unnecessary, dangerous, unethical surgical alteration on an unconsenting baby. Shall I link to reported statistics on circumcision accidents, including penis amputation, massive infection and death? I'm pretty sure the little boys who had their dicks cut off or who died would have liked the choice to wash it instead.

Pull out a small handful of worthless studies conducted in sub-surhran Africa funded by biased religious groups and I'll point and laugh.

Eh, you know what? The war is being won and this barbaric cultural ritual is slowly dying out. This is good news.
 
2013-08-22 02:35:26 PM
Seems to me that many (most?) of the pro-chop hacks are religious/ethnic zealots who fear that one day their precious barbaric ritual will one day be outlawed.

Personally, I don't give a shiat what you do to your  crotch and your crotchfruit, but please, at least be honest about it, and don't try con others into following you in your insanity by pretending that it's "healthy" or "hygienic".
 
2013-08-22 02:35:32 PM

megarian: Theaetetus: CJHardin: I guess my point is that both procedures are in my opinion equally unnecessary and harmful and I disagree with their continuance in modern medicine.

Your opinion, however, does not mean the procedures actually are equally unnecessary. In particular, there are some medical benefits to male circumcision. You may (and probably do) disagree that those benefits outweigh the risks or potential detriment, but that's a private medical decision.
However, there are no medical benefits to female genital mutilation.

I like how this^ was worded, too.


I just have a firm opinion on the matter.  I wish that my foreskin was still intact and that I was given the choice.

My opinion does not mean anything, as it is only my opinion.  I do believe that the benefits of circumcision do not outweigh the risk, but that is for others to decide when it comes time to decide for their own child, and whose decision may negate their child's ability to choose for themselves when they are old enough.  I do agree that there is absolutely no medical benefit to female genital mutilation, so at least we agree on that.
 
2013-08-22 02:35:56 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Uncut, and happy that way.


....  how YOU doin'?
 
2013-08-22 02:37:18 PM

poison_amy: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Uncut, and happy that way.

....  how YOU doin'?


check your email
 
2013-08-22 02:37:24 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Me, I'm pro choice and I'm fine with whatever the parents decide.


While the one who actually suffers has no say in the matter.
 
2013-08-22 02:39:07 PM
I see the censors are being extra sensitive today. Nevermind the pictures were totally on topic, made a very relevant point, and were not anything you wouldn't see on CNN or any normal, safe news source.

Don't like that, nope not one bit.

/Gone
 
2013-08-22 02:40:09 PM

yukichigai: CJHardin: ddam: Fo Shiz: Apparently Hispanics have lower rates of circumcision.  Most western states' Medicaid programs (including CA, OR and WA) do not cover circumcision as a routine procedure.  So can we infer that high birth rates among Hispanics along with some associated lack of health insurance leads to a lower rate of circumcision?

Neither did my private insurance so my son who's about to be 2 soon is uncut. No way I'd pay $400 for that procedure, especially since it's not necessary.

I'm sure he will thank you for the additional 20,000 nerve endings when he is old enough to make that decision for himself.

And this is why I'm sad I'm circumsised.

/Also I have sensitivity issues, too
//20,000 extra nerve endings matter so much more when it would double what you have


Yeah, being able to last a long time during sex as a teen and mid 20's guy made me feel like a rock star.  These days I'd welcome the additional stimulation.  I'm not saying that lasting a while is a bad thing necessarily but there are times when I'd like to be a bit more brief in the act.
 
2013-08-22 02:42:10 PM
The folds of flesh are flavor savors.
 
2013-08-22 02:42:29 PM

CJHardin: megarian: Theaetetus: CJHardin: I guess my point is that both procedures are in my opinion equally unnecessary and harmful and I disagree with their continuance in modern medicine.

Your opinion, however, does not mean the procedures actually are equally unnecessary. In particular, there are some medical benefits to male circumcision. You may (and probably do) disagree that those benefits outweigh the risks or potential detriment, but that's a private medical decision.
However, there are no medical benefits to female genital mutilation.

I like how this^ was worded, too.

I just have a firm opinion on the matter.  I wish that my foreskin was still intact and that I was given the choice.

My opinion does not mean anything, as it is only my opinion.  I do believe that the benefits of circumcision do not outweigh the risk, but that is for others to decide when it comes time to decide for their own child, and whose decision may negate their child's ability to choose for themselves when they are old enough.  I do agree that there is absolutely no medical benefit to female genital mutilation, so at least we agree on that.


Well, all of that is a pretty reasonable opinion.

Also, penises are weird in general. I don't understand how getting snipped makes them less weird, but to each their own.

This is coming from someone who puts ketchup on hot dogs, so I obviously have unresolved mental issues.
 
2013-08-22 02:42:30 PM

Mitochondrial Eve: Penises are MUCH sexier uncircumcised.


This.

I've had four long-term relationships in my life. Two were cut and two were not.  I much preferred the uncut, especially for oral.  I LOVE running my tongue around the head under the foreskin...no complaints from recipients either.
 
2013-08-22 02:44:15 PM

PurplePearls: Mitochondrial Eve: Penises are MUCH sexier uncircumcised.

This.

I've had four long-term relationships in my life. Two were cut and two were not.  I much preferred the uncut, especially for oral.  I LOVE running my tongue around the head under the foreskin...no complaints from recipients either.


I can't imagine any complaints about that.
 
2013-08-22 02:46:05 PM

megarian: This is coming from someone who puts ketchup on hot dogs, so I obviously have unresolved mental issues.


Is that a euphemism?

/I apply the forbidden condiment as well so call me crazy.
//Big whoop, wanna fight about it!
 
2013-08-22 02:48:53 PM

FarkinHostile: Theaetetus: In particular, there are some medical benefits to male circumcision.

This is the one of the most disingenuous arguments for circumcision. EVERY single alleged benefit is easily obtained with basic hygiene and condom use.


That doesn't make it disingenuous, since you admit that it's true. There are also good arguments against relying solely on condoms.

All without an unnecessary, dangerous, unethical surgical alteration on an unconsenting baby.

Now that's a disingenuous argument. If your argument relies on your personal opinion and bias, rather than facts, you're not going to persuade anyone except yourself.

Shall I link to reported statistics on circumcision accidents, including penis amputation, massive infection and death? I'm pretty sure the little boys who had their dicks cut off or who died would have liked the choice to wash it instead.

By all means, Mrs. Lovejoy. Statistics would be far better than your table pounding and "think of the children!"-ing.

Pull out a small handful of worthless studies conducted in sub-surhran Africa funded by biased religious groups and I'll point and laugh.

We already did this in the last thread. Remember? You're the idiot who thinks that America, Europe, and China are in sub-Saharan Africa. The one who fled the thread, never to return, when it was pointed out that you don't actually read any links when you attempt to refute them.
 
2013-08-22 02:50:31 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: poison_amy: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Uncut, and happy that way.

....  how YOU doin'?

check your email


Er, try now.
 
2013-08-22 02:51:25 PM

CJHardin: megarian: This is coming from someone who puts ketchup on hot dogs, so I obviously have unresolved mental issues.

Is that a euphemism?

/I apply the forbidden condiment as well so call me crazy.
//Big whoop, wanna fight about it!


Now it is.

Welp, nice knowing you. The Fark Anti-Ketchup Brigade has our locations and we will soon have to be forced to accept our condimentectomy.
 
2013-08-22 02:55:37 PM

FarkinHostile: I see the censors are being extra sensitive today. Nevermind the pictures were totally on topic, made a very relevant point, and were not anything you wouldn't see on CNN or any normal, safe news source.

Don't like that, nope not one bit.

/Gone



Maybe these will be better?

cdn.ebaumsworld.com

CUT

www.scrapsfathima.com.br

UNCUT
 
2013-08-22 02:59:06 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Uncut, and happy that way.


*This
/wife also happy
 
2013-08-22 03:00:40 PM

Theaetetus: We already did this in the last thread. Remember? You're the idiot who thinks that America, Europe, and China are in sub-Saharan Africa. The one who fled the thread, never to return, when it was pointed out that you don't actually read any links when you attempt to refute them.


You DO know that threads are archived, right?

http://m.fark.com/comments/7869926/It-looks-like-there-might-actuall y- be-some-women-out-there-willing-to-give-uncircumcised-men-a-blowjob?st artid=85694765
 
2013-08-22 03:03:28 PM
Assertion1) Penises look odd no matter what
Assertion 2) Clean your penis, no matter what
Assertion 3) People who make other people feel bad for the choice their parents made for them at birth are suck bags and deserve a case of the clap
Assertion 4) If a woman is so shallow she's willing to break up with you based on your foreskin status alone, she's not a keeper... not even a candidate for a brief fling, in my book
Assertion 5) Ladies- calling one or the other gross or even stating a strong preference is like a guy doing the same thing with boob size or labia size or any other number of things you have no control over.  It's certainly your perogative to do so but think how a guy comes off with such vocal opinions on lady bits before you do.

Discuss.
 
2013-08-22 03:11:05 PM

FarkinHostile: Theaetetus: We already did this in the last thread. Remember? You're the idiot who thinks that America, Europe, and China are in sub-Saharan Africa. The one who fled the thread, never to return, when it was pointed out that you don't actually read any links when you attempt to refute them.

You DO know that threads are archived, right?

http://m.fark.com/comments/7869926/It-looks-like-there-might-actuall y- be-some-women-out-there-willing-to-give-uncircumcised-men-a-blowjob?st artid=85694765


Yes, I do. Do you?

Me: "Oh, and just for good measure, here's a 2011 study to counter your letter from two decades ago:
There was a strong protective effect of childhood/adolescent circumcision on invasive penile cancer (OR = 0.33; 95% CI 0.13-0.83; 3 studies).
"

You: "Be honest, you don't even read the links, do you? You google quickly, then when you find something you THINK backs your position, you post it. These Sub-Saharan African studies, funded by religious groups, are so not applicable to the west it's not funny, but some nitwit always breaks them out in these threads.

Don't bother linking any more studies from the 1960s in Africa. You've already shown how worthless they, and you, are."


The actual study:
Description of eligible papers
The eight papers evaluating the effect of circumcision on penile cancer included one cross-sectional study and seven case-control studies (Table 1). Study populations were from Europe (n = 4), the United States (n = 3), and China (n = 1).


Your response:
s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-08-22 03:12:07 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Raspil: it seems that this is one topic where men care what women think, about dicks.

You'd be wrong. Circumcised guys prefer to believe women run in terror from uncut guys, and nothing any woman can say will change that.


bless their hearts, then.  they don't know what they're missing and that's really sad.  or maybe they do and this is their way of feeling something something

/because they are missing feeling where it counts
 
2013-08-22 03:12:32 PM
At this point, I just feel sorry for FarkinHostile. While a normal person would say, "gosh, you're right, I didn't read your link. I thought you meant some other study, not this new one," he instead doubles down and insists that Europe, China, and America are in Africa. That takes some serious insecurity.
 
2013-08-22 03:13:05 PM

Nurglitch: Raspil: as a female who'd only had sex with circumcised men until i met my current boyfriend/future husband, who is intact, i have to say that without a doubt uncut is better.  i'd been one of those "it's cleaner/looks better" kind of believers until i met my guy.  it's different in a better way for him and me. unless you know, you don't know and i can't describe it without getting explicit.

/it seems that this is one topic where men care what women think, about dicks.

Time to break out the tube-socks and cucumbers? Or the anatomically-correct puppets?


no, i have a man in my life that i love and who loves me and he's is hung and natural.  what are you talking about
 
2013-08-22 03:13:40 PM

FarkinHostile: I see the censors are being extra sensitive today. Nevermind the pictures were totally on topic, made a very relevant point, and were not anything you wouldn't see on CNN or any normal, safe news source.

Don't like that, nope not one bit.

/Gone


did you show that picture of circumcised and uncircumcised penises and color coded regions showing sensitivity threshold? thats a good infographic and i used to have it but i lost it and NCFM is down so i cant find it. was going to post it myself
 
2013-08-22 03:13:44 PM
Ugh. The more reason for me NOT to date younger guys. I've been with both cut and uncut guys, and I can say with 100% certainty that I prefer cut guys. No matter how many showers a guy takes or how clean he keeps his stick, in a few hours the smell emitting from the folds of skin are enough to be off-putting. It's hard to give lots of head when you're trying not to gag from the smell.

/bf is very VERY happy....
 
2013-08-22 03:19:25 PM

keypusher: Raspil: as a female who'd only had sex with circumcised men until i met my current boyfriend/future husband, who is intact, i have to say that without a doubt uncut is better.  i'd been one of those "it's cleaner/looks better" kind of believers until i met my guy.  it's different in a better way for him and me. unless you know, you don't know and i can't describe it without getting explicit.

/it seems that this is one topic where men care what women think, about dicks.

But how do you know it's his uncut-ness and not other things?  Don't mean that in a "go on" kind of way, just curious.


to answer this and ZeroChance/Corpse (whoever) -- i had sex with him before i fell in love with him.  i also had sex with cut guys before i fell in love with them.  but he was the first intact fellow i'd been with and i was like wut and gave it a chance because i liked him a lot and wanted to be with him and what, i'm gonna ask him to get circumcised or something?  no, that is insane.  i found i liked it better and that helped us get closer in all ways.  we'll be together 5 years on September 1st.  is this all coincidence?  a happy accident?  don't know and it doesn't matter.  it is what it is.  i'm just weighing in with real-world research and not just a guesstimated opinion (on Fark?  imagine that).
 
2013-08-22 03:19:56 PM

Theaetetus: At this point, I just feel sorry for FarkinHostile.


Son, I've seen the pictures you used to have up of you and your wife. Save your false pity. I understand why you are so unhappy, but I don't agree with the intellectual dishonesty. At best you are misleading and intellectual dishonest. At worst you are a liar.

Everyone who has any interest will just read the old thread, check out your links, and see whats up.
 
2013-08-22 03:22:03 PM
I think it's time for a Dick picture.

abovethelaw.com
 
2013-08-22 03:23:17 PM
This thread got all kerfuffled.
 
2013-08-22 03:24:11 PM

FarkinHostile: Theaetetus: At this point, I just feel sorry for FarkinHostile.

Son, I've seen the pictures you used to have up of you and your wife.


Jeez, man, just because everyone can see you're a liar doesn't mean you have to resort to personal attacks. Particularly when I've never had any pictures in my profile.

Everyone who has any interest will just read the old thread, check out your links, and see whats up.

Yep, and it's quoted above, too. They can see you insisting that a study on Europe, Africa, and America covers "sub-Saharan Africa".

Dude, seriously. You're turning into a joke. Step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath.
 
2013-08-22 03:24:18 PM

Warning, Not safe for lunch or work:
http://youtu.be/m_zkKciuIpA?t=2m28s
...


http://muppetsmom.blogspot. com/2010_06_01_archive.html

A Nursing Student is Introduced to Circumcision
by: Darlene Owen

I wouldn't say that I'm fanatical about it or anything, but I do have a very strong opinion about it, and am completely against it. I strongly believe in genital integrity for both, females and males.

I'm talking about circumcision.

I had never given it much thought before, until as a nursing student I actually saw a circumcision performed on a two day old, male infant. After witnessing the procedure, I began to question this very unnecessary procedure, and tried to reason what I can only describe as torture that was carried out on that innocent little baby who had no voice, no one to help him.

Witnessing that circumcision led me to educate myself as much as I could on the topic, and question a lot of the myths surrounding circumcision, and discover the actual truths.

I grew up like everyone else with the very wrong mis-conception that circumcisions were "no big deal", and were "cleaner, healthier" etc.

I was in my second year of nursing and looking forward to my clinical rotation in Labour and Delivery since it was the area I was most interested in, and knew most likely would be the career path I would take in nursing.

It was my second day on the unit, when the nurse I was following and observing, informed me that I would be helping her to assist a doctor that morning with a circumcision.

My nurse and I set up for the procedure and talked about what was to be involved. My nurse made it sound as though it was a very minor procedure and quite simple really.

I went with the nurse to the mom's room that was having her son circumcised that morning. The nurse asked the infants' parents if they had any questions, both parents simply replied, "no". If only they knew what their poor little baby was in for.

The nurse asked the parents if they wished to be present during the circumcision and watch the procedure performed. Neither parent was interested, so we then headed with the baby in her arms to the "procedure room", which was simply... the nursery.

The nurse unswaddled the calm, sleeping baby, and proceeded to undress him. The baby began to fuss a little since it was a little cold in the room, and I'm sure he didn't appreciate being unwrapped and removed from his warm, cozy blankets.

The nurse then layed the now naked infant down on a hard plastic body board and strapped down his arms and legs. The baby was crying very hard now, trying to fight having his arms and legs strapped down in such a straight unnatural position for a newborn.

The doctor then walked in, and was very friendly when the nurse introduced me and informed him that I was a nursing student who was joining them that morning to observe. While the doctor was talking to me, he seemed impervious to the now screaming infant. I wasn't even really hearing the doctor at that point, all I kept thinking was, 'Someone please unstrap that poor little guy, and pick him up and comfort him already.' The doctor saw my obvious distress and smiled and said, "Oh, don't worry about him, he just doesn't like being on the board, he's in no real distress." 'No real distress'? Really? This tiny little newborn was screaming and no one was responding to his cries. He was literally being ignored. I was not impressed so far.

The doctor then draped the infant in surgical drapes which covered his abdomen and legs but exposed his penis. The doctor using a swab, rubbed a solution on the infants' penis explaining what the solution was, and that it works to cause an erection on the infant so that he can grasp his penis easier.

The doctor then grabbed the infants now erect penis with forceps and proceeded to force a sharp instrument into the opening of the penis. The infant was of course screaming the most horrid cry I have ever heard come from an infant. The nurse was proceeding to give him sugar water, which she claimed "helped soothe the baby". This little guy seemed as though he could care less and was choking and gagging on the liquid. He just kept screaming. At times his scream didn't even come out, he was screaming so hard. I felt weak in the knees and had to fight very hard to hold back the tears forming in my eyes.

The doctor had forced the sharp scissor-like instrument into the opening of the baby's penis and was now forcing it open to tear away the foreskin from the glans of the penis. He then grasped the skin with another type of forcep and proceeded to cut at the foreskin. The doctor was talking away and explaining each step, I wasn't even listening. I could not believe the unbelievable distress this baby was in, and no one seemed to care really. I then asked the doctor if he had used any freezing or anything. He simply replied, "No, it's too risky to use on little guys like this." WHAT? So, basically this doctor was hacking skin off of this poor little infants' most sensitive organ, and the infant was experiencing every cut? I remember feeling so disgusted and said to the doctor, "This is barbaric." The doctor said, "Well, that's your opinion, but some parents prefer their boys be cut." All I could think of was, 'Why? Who really cares?'

When the doctor was finished the procedure, the nurse took the now exhausted infant and applied Vaseline and gauze to the infants' very raw, bleeding penis. The infant was no longer crying, but had such a look of shock on his little face. He had just experienced the most horrific pain he will probably ever experience in his entire life.

I was at a loss for words.

The truth about circumcision is that it is not medically necessary.

It is not cleaner.

Studies have proven again and again, that it has no direct relation on cancer etc. as was once thought.

It is also a very painful procedure. The baby does feel it, experience it.

There have been studies that demonstrate actual MRI changes within an infants brain after a circumcision has been performed.

As for those who claim "it looks better", my response is, "Really? Based on who's decision?" A penis with a foreskin is how the penis is  supposed to look.  The foreskin has a function, it providess protection of the very sensitive glans (head) of the penis, and it provides ease during intercourse. During intercourse, the penis moves within its foreskin, preventing rubbing or friction of the vagina, which makes intercourse far more pleasurable for both the man and woman.

Many people will respond in outrage over female circumcision, yet still consider circumcision of males 'the norm'.

Many parents aren't properly informed of the procedure. It  IS a very serious procedure with very many real risks involved. In my experience as a post partum nurse, many parents who were led to believe it was a 'minor' procedure and observed their sons' circumcision, were sickened just as I was at the actual pain and distress it caused their infant. I have had many patients who, after witnessing their first son's circumcision, decided immediately that they would not get any other boys they may have circumcised. Many parents told me that they wished they had known just how painful it would be for their son, that they would not have even considered it if they had known what is actually involved.

As for the argument that many men want their son to look like them, my answer is, Why? It is a stupid argument. Why can't parents simply teach their son that their son's penis is 'normal and healthy', that 'daddy had his normal, healthy functioning skin of his penis removed surgically, unnecessarily'. I also always say to those people, "Really? Well, watch an actual circumcision and see if you still feel that way afterwards." I have yet to see any parent watch a video, or view an actual circumcision procedure, who is not completely against the idea afterwards.

An uncircumcised penis is very easy to keep clean. There is no special care required. The saying goes, "Clean only what is seen".

As for worrying about the son's foreskin not retracting, and needing a circumcision later in life. That actually only occurs in a very, very small number of males. However, even if the male does need the surgery later in life, he will be put to sleep for the procedure and will not feel it. He will also be managed comfortably with pain medication. A newborn doesn't have any of those benefits. A newborn is awake for it, will feel it, and doesn't receive any pain medication.

Ask any grown male if he'd get his penis circumcised while awake, with no freezing, and I guarantee you'd hear a very loud resounding "NO!" Yet, many men will put their newborn son through it. Doesn't make much sense does it?

I realize that at one time it was considered the norm. Now however, with all of the education about it, I can not understand why parents still proceed to put their tiny little newborn son through such a horrific experience.

I am proud to say that I am an intactivist, and the proud mom of two gorgeous, healthy, intact boys.



 
2013-08-22 03:28:37 PM

ng2810: Ugh. The more reason for me NOT to date younger guys. I've been with both cut and uncut guys, and I can say with 100% certainty that I prefer cut guys. No matter how many showers a guy takes or how clean he keeps his stick, in a few hours the smell emitting from the folds of skin are enough to be off-putting. It's hard to give lots of head when you're trying not to gag from the smell.

/bf is very VERY happy....


I have to assume that smell is coming from YOU then.  You see, I'm a bit of a slut and I've had lots and lots of uncuts, and never once had one emit any kind of rank odor, even after hours of activity.  Oral or otherwise.  Perhaps an antibiotic would help, or if you get the smell during oral, a good dental check up.
 
2013-08-22 03:29:13 PM
Also, what kind of coward resorts to personal attacks on someone's spouse?
 
2013-08-22 03:31:17 PM

poison_amy: ng2810: Ugh. The more reason for me NOT to date younger guys. I've been with both cut and uncut guys, and I can say with 100% certainty that I prefer cut guys. No matter how many showers a guy takes or how clean he keeps his stick, in a few hours the smell emitting from the folds of skin are enough to be off-putting. It's hard to give lots of head when you're trying not to gag from the smell.

/bf is very VERY happy....

I have to assume that smell is coming from YOU then.  You see, I'm a bit of a slut and I've had lots and lots of uncuts, and never once had one emit any kind of rank odor, even after hours of activity.  Oral or otherwise.  Perhaps an antibiotic would help, or if you get the smell during oral, a good dental check up.


[golfclap.gif]
 
2013-08-22 03:32:44 PM
For those of you worried about the children... It should match dad.  The only damage to be done to the kid is finding out he doesn't match dad.
 
2013-08-22 03:33:51 PM

poison_amy: ng2810: Ugh. The more reason for me NOT to date younger guys. I've been with both cut and uncut guys, and I can say with 100% certainty that I prefer cut guys. No matter how many showers a guy takes or how clean he keeps his stick, in a few hours the smell emitting from the folds of skin are enough to be off-putting. It's hard to give lots of head when you're trying not to gag from the smell.

/bf is very VERY happy....

I have to assume that smell is coming from YOU then.  You see, I'm a bit of a slut and I've had lots and lots of uncuts, and never once had one emit any kind of rank odor, even after hours of activity.  Oral or otherwise.  Perhaps an antibiotic would help, or if you get the smell during oral, a good dental check up.


Yay, sluts!
 
2013-08-22 03:35:07 PM

Mose: Assertion1) Penises look odd no matter what
Assertion 2) Clean your penis, no matter what
Assertion 3) People who make other people feel bad for the choice their parents made for them at birth are suck bags and deserve a case of the clap
Assertion 4) If a woman is so shallow she's willing to break up with you based on your foreskin status alone, she's not a keeper... not even a candidate for a brief fling, in my book
Assertion 5) Ladies- calling one or the other gross or even stating a strong preference is like a guy doing the same thing with boob size or labia size or any other number of things you have no control over.  It's certainly your perogative to do so but think how a guy comes off with such vocal opinions on lady bits before you do.

Discuss.


QFT.

/girl who prefers uncut
//married to cut
 
2013-08-22 03:36:02 PM

poison_amy: ng2810: Ugh. The more reason for me NOT to date younger guys. I've been with both cut and uncut guys, and I can say with 100% certainty that I prefer cut guys. No matter how many showers a guy takes or how clean he keeps his stick, in a few hours the smell emitting from the folds of skin are enough to be off-putting. It's hard to give lots of head when you're trying not to gag from the smell.

/bf is very VERY happy....

I have to assume that smell is coming from YOU then.  You see, I'm a bit of a slut and I've had lots and lots of uncuts, and never once had one emit any kind of rank odor, even after hours of activity.  Oral or otherwise.  Perhaps an antibiotic would help, or if you get the smell during oral, a good dental check up.


stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2013-08-22 03:42:32 PM

megarian: This thread got all kerfuffled.


[penis double entendre]
 
2013-08-22 03:44:26 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: megarian: This thread got all kerfuffled.

[penis double entendre]


lulz u said penis
 
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