doubled99: Does the internet clean the water?
skozlaw: doubled99: Does the internet clean the water?Because it's only possible to do one thing at a time ever, right?
gfid: Bringing more people online is a questionable goal
skozlaw: gfid: Bringing more people online is a questionable goalNo, it's not. Just because you and I are sitting here squandering our bounty doesn't mean it isn't useful. You know what's better than digging some asshole a well for clean water?Giving him access to the engineering skills to do it himself and teach others how to do it.And I have no idea what that inane tangent at the end about books is. You can give a guy a 3 pound laptop that gives him access to nearly every literary, diagnostic and engineering book ever written. Are you implying you'd rather try and send him a library or something?
doubled99: No, but perhaps you could prioritize the order in which you do things a bit, dickhead.
gfid: We gave them the choice.
skozlaw: gfid: We gave them the choice.Yea, right. Because unlike web pages, every book in the world is poignant and has great intellectual, cultural or social value.[thumbs2.ebaystatic.com image 147x225]You didn't "break anything down". You made an unsupportable assumption about the motivations of a plan that has no detail to it and then pushed the idea that somehow reading a book is superior to reading the same thing on a website.The internet has great value as an educational and work tool and it's being used to that effect in third world countries across the globe. Malaria and food are not the only problems facing people in blighted African countries. They lack modern farming practices, engineering skills and the knowledge to compete in a world that is rapidly globalizing around them but without them. To sit and argue that we shouldn't be expanding their ability to participate in the very things that will help them solve these problems in the long run is idiotic.You can drop food and dig wells for people until your fingers bleed, it's going to do you exactly no good if the generation you help doesn't have the capacity to pass the knowledge required to solve these problem on to the next generation. There are already plenty of organizations helping with the short term problems. There should also be groups setting the stage to end them in the long term and this is the type of thing that could help do that.
gfid: wtf is wrong with you ... as I pointed out Gates is doing more than just digging wells
gfid: If you give some dirt farmer in Africa access to the internet he's not suddenly going to miraculously learn how to grow better crops.
skozlaw: You're opposed to a plan
gfid: No, I'm not opposed to this plan. You're cherry picking shiat out of my posts.
gfid: I don't think Zuckerberg is looking to bring knowledge to people in 3rd world countries. He wants them glued to facebook so they can play farmville and exchange pictures of lolcats and update their status from starving to just ate all the roaches I could find in my hut while being bitten by malaria carrying mosquitoes..
skozlaw: gfid: No, I'm not opposed to this plan. You're cherry picking shiat out of my posts.Yea, right... can't imagine where I'd have gotten an idea like that from anything you've posted here.gfid: I don't think Zuckerberg is looking to bring knowledge to people in 3rd world countries. He wants them glued to facebook so they can play farmville and exchange pictures of lolcats and update their status from starving to just ate all the roaches I could find in my hut while being bitten by malaria carrying mosquitoes..
gfid: . It's true that there is a wealth of information on the internet and that's good, but if you let a kid loose in a store full of every food known to mankind, they're still probably going to head straight to the candy aisle.
jmr61: Never in one million years will facebook have any information about me or earn one cent from me.
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