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(CNN)   France has decided that if Syria used chemical weapons, that the U.S. should do something about it   (cnn.com) divider line 215
    More: Obvious, Israel Radio, Ahmet Davutoglu, U.S., 2011-2012 Syrian uprising, chemical weapons, United Nations Security Council, international humanitarian law, information minister  
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2013-08-23 07:54:24 AM

vygramul: like his obsession over Zimmerman's Jewish ancestry


Seriously ? this is great stuff. Got a link ?
 
2013-08-23 08:22:41 AM

TappingTheVein: vygramul: like his obsession over Zimmerman's Jewish ancestry

Seriously ? this is great stuff. Got a link ?


Alas, no, and I didn't bother looking for it because there are so many goddamn zimmerman threads I didn't want to root through them all to find it.
 
2013-08-23 08:38:39 AM

TappingTheVein: vygramul: like his obsession over Zimmerman's Jewish ancestry

Seriously ? this is great stuff. Got a link ?


Found it:

Underlined and in all-caps to make sure no one missed it.
 
2013-08-23 08:48:35 AM

vygramul: Found it:

Underlined and in all-caps to make sure no one missed it.


The guy is an endless source of amusement, thanks!
 
2013-08-23 10:44:05 AM

vygramul: Well, since you rushed in here to white knight for the anti-Semite


I was strictly pimping the guy who is his own hero.  As I stated earlier, I have no use for AQ.
 
2013-08-23 11:17:22 AM

The Muthaship: TappingTheVein: The Muthaship: Did you just link to your own attempted zinger on a fellow Farker?

More like TappingTheVain.

You mean a links to his quotes, his posts, as in undeniable proof including a post where he was caught lying about it ?
Hmmm.. I wonder what made you post such a stupid comment.

I didn't read it other than what you said about him lying.  Conceding entirely your point that you caught him lying and he is the anti-semite you say he is, you still look pathetic for linking to your own "outing" of him.

So wonder no longer.

/I think AQ is a moron as well
//mainly for his nonsense in the Dorner threads.


Oh, by all means, PLEASE DO click on Tappy's links - and see where they go - usually they link to MORE of Tappy's own posts with MORE links that go to still MORE of Tappy's own posts  (etc) and if you ever DO manage to get to the center of Tappy's Russian Doll, you'll find that his accusations were baseless lies.

Click here for a preview. of the Fappy Tappy Show, LOL!
 
2013-08-23 11:51:22 AM

vygramul: TappingTheVein: tirob, just a little background information about Fark's resident anti-semite Amos Quito:

he's a rabid anti-semite sack of shiat who blames "the jews/zionists/Israel" on things ranging from conspiracies about JFK's murder, the Holocaust, the revolution in Egypt, you name it.

Of course he does it in his "*wink* *wink* i'm only asking questions here but.. you saif it! not I!" technique like a retarded child which makes it more hilarious when he is caught lying about it.

He's "hinting" here Amos Quito(tm) style that Israel is behind the WMD attacks in Syria.. ? ahha..hahahaha!

He pretends it's all about Zionists, but he mysteriously ends up in every thread about Jews. His "information" is always negative, even when he's frying bigger fish, like his obsession over Zimmerman's Jewish ancestry.



LOL, putz, I was a strong supporter of Zimmerman from day one - while you were cheer leading for having him strung up

Where's your anti-Semitic conspiracy theory now?

You and Tappy should get a room - you seem to enjoy the mutual fapping.
 
2013-08-23 11:54:28 AM

The Muthaship: vygramul: Well, since you rushed in here to white knight for the anti-Semite

I was strictly pimping the guy who is his own hero.  As I stated earlier, I have no use for AQ.



That's it. G-d forbid that you be accused of agreeing with someone who's been accused of (GASP) anti-Semitism!!!11

/Oh the humanity!!!
 
2013-08-23 12:26:32 PM

tirob: Amos Quito: Then why deny the possibility?

I haven't denied the possibility.  I have said that I have not yet seen any evidence that anyone other than Assad was responsible for the gas attack.  And you haven't provided any here.

Amos Quito: 1. I see no link

Secondhand source, Mr. Al-Kana's post at La Presse that I reproduced in my 9:07 post.

Amos Quito: 2. With no access to the area, how would Assad know whether and actual attack occurred - rather than just propaganda? Is he psychic?

Mr. Al-Kana didn't assert that Assad claimed not to know about any chemical attack.  He asserted that Assad flatly denied that any massacre took place at all in the area where the chemical attack was reported.

You seem sure that Assad has no way of getting information from the area affected.  Al-Kana appears to think that Assad claims to know what happened in the area.



Earlier you berated me for calling the attack "alleged". Well, guess who said what:

Obama: Syria chemical weapon claim a 'grave concern'


"US President Barack Obama has said the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria in an attack on Wednesday is a "big event of grave concern".

Mr Obama said the US was still seeking confirmation such weapons were used, but if proved true the situation would "require America's attention".

Meanwhile, Syria's main ally Russia has said there is growing evidence that Syrian rebels were behind the attack.



How do you like your crow?


tirob: Amos Quito: False flag ops and false intel ops (such as WMD's in Iraq) can be extremely valuable if well played - especially if you have a cooperative media.

Theoretically, yes. We don't know that this episode in Syria was either of those things, and you have provided no evidence here that it was either of those things.


We don't know one way or another - yet - but all circumstantial and motivational evidence points to my being correct.


tirob: Amos Quito: You think that the Palestinians are clever enough to sneak in missiles, munitions and rockets into Gaza, but there is NO WAI that interested parties with vastly greater resources could POSSIBLY sneak a chemical weapon into the middle of the Syrian chaos?

Bullshiat. The weapon need not have even been fired. It could have been smuggled in and detonated on site.

Hamas is sneaking their ordnance into a (by and large) friendly territory where their members have friends and family. I assume by "interested parties with vastly greater resources" you mean Israel. A theoretical Israeli smuggling operation would be through hostile territory where the theoretical smugglers have no contacts at all, and where locals would instantly recognize an outsider, and where at least some of the locals would report that outsider at once to the Baathist authorities who are still in place in much of Syria. I don't know about "no wai," but your scenario sounds just as far-fetched to me as the false flag missile scenario that you dismiss.



What makes you think it would necessarily have been Israeli nationals who would have done the smuggling?


tirob: Amos Quito: I saw you make a 180 degree change your position when evidence was properly presented. But that was in the Zimmerman case

You have presented no evidence here, just conjecture.



NO ONE has presented any evidence yet. It is ALL conjecture.

It just so happens that my line of reasoning is far more in sync with reality than the hand-waving and bullshiat that the Western pundits have been spewing - and that you have subscribed to.

/Crow is served
//Enjoy
///Care for desert?
 
2013-08-23 12:57:06 PM

Amos Quito: Oh, by all means, PLEASE DO click on Tappy's links - and see where they go - usually they link to MORE of Tappy's own posts with MORE links that go to still MORE of Tappy's own posts  (etc) and if you ever DO manage to get to the center of Tappy's Russian Doll, you'll find that his accusations were baseless lies.


Keep lying to yourself, anti-semite shiatstain. Anyone who knows how to click on a link can see that my posts lead to your own posts spewing your anti-semitic conspiracy bullshiat.
 
2013-08-23 01:37:06 PM

Amos Quito: Earlier you berated me for calling the attack "alleged". Well, guess who said what:

Obama: Syria chemical weapon claim a 'grave concern'

"US President Barack Obama has said the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria in an attack on Wednesday is a "big event of grave concern".


What I said was this:

"As for your use of the word "alleged," I have seen no source that asserts that [a gas attack] didn't happen, not even the article you linked here."

As of now, the only *denial* that I know of so far has come from the Syrian government, which has denied that any massacre of any kind took place at Ghouta.

You have up to this point provided no evidence that my source Basel Al-Kana is mistaken when he claimed that a gas attack occurred; indeed, you have refrained from answering a single one of his points here.

Amos Quito:  We don't know that this episode in Syria was either of those things, and you have provided no evidence here that it was either of those things.

We don't know one way or another - yet - but all circumstantial and motivational evidence points to my being correct.


I stand by what I wrote.  You have up to this point provided nothing to back your "correct" claim except surmise, innuendo, "would have," and "could have."

Amos Quito: What makes you think it would necessarily have been Israeli nationals who would have done the smuggling?


More "would have," but I'll try to answer your point anyway.  I referred to your hypothetical phantom smugglers as "outsiders," and I did so on purpose to include non-Israelis that the Mossad hypothetically could have recruited.  In other words, you missed my point.

Amos Quito: NO ONE has presented any evidence yet. It is ALL conjecture


As I stated above, Basel Al-Kana has made charges backed by evidence that you have chosen thus far not to respond to.  See my post of 9:07 yesterday.  And one thing about Mr. Al-Kana is for damn sure--he wasn't trying to influence the United States; people who write in French don't do so with an American audience in mind.

Amos Quito: It just so happens that my line of reasoning is far more in sync with reality than the hand-waving and bullshiat that the Western pundits have been spewing - and that you have subscribed to.


A lecture on reality from a writer who builds a case for a false flag/false intel operation based exclusively on surmise.  I'll make a note of that.
 
2013-08-23 01:49:11 PM

Amos Quito: That's it. G-d forbid that you be accused of agreeing with someone who's been accused of (GASP) anti-Semitism!!!11


Nothing to do with that at all.
 
2013-08-23 06:02:19 PM
time stamp
 
2013-08-23 06:48:46 PM

tirob: Amos Quito: Earlier you berated me for calling the attack "alleged". Well, guess who said what:

Obama: Syria chemical weapon claim a 'grave concern'

"US President Barack Obama has said the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria in an attack on Wednesday is a "big event of grave concern".

What I said was this:

"As for your use of the word "alleged," I have seen no source that asserts that [a gas attack] didn't happen, not even the article you linked here."

As of now, the only *denial* that I know of so far has come from the Syrian government, which has denied that any massacre of any kind took place at Ghouta.

You have up to this point provided no evidence that my source Basel Al-Kana is mistaken when he claimed that a gas attack occurred; indeed, you have refrained from answering a single one of his points here.



What? You want me to provide "evidence" that your source is "mistaken"? LOL!  As for the "unanswered points", I believe I addressed every one. Be specific.


tirob: Amos Quito: We don't know that this episode in Syria was either of those things, and you have provided no evidence here that it was either of those things.

We don't know one way or another - yet - but all circumstantial and motivational evidence points to my being correct.

I stand by what I wrote. You have up to this point provided nothing to back your "correct" claim except surmise, innuendo, "would have," and "could have."



And you (or your "source") have provided WHAT EVIDENCE, exactly? Nothing. Nada. Kaput - just raw, baseless accusations that Assad MUST be the culprit.

What do you want?


tirob: Amos Quito: What makes you think it would necessarily have been Israeli nationals who would have done the smuggling?

More "would have," but I'll try to answer your point anyway. I referred to your hypothetical phantom smugglers as "outsiders," and I did so on purpose to include non-Israelis that the Mossad hypothetically could have recruited. In other words, you missed my point.



Maybe you need to sharpen your points?

Jerusalem Post:

Report: Syrian rebel forces trained by West are moving towards Damascus


QUOTES:

"Guerrilla fighters trained by the West began moving towards Damascus in mid-August, French newspaper Le Figaro reported on Thursday.
Le Figaro reported that this is the reason behind the Assad regime's alleged chemical weapons attack in Damascus on Wednesday morning, as UN inspectors were allowed into the country to investigate allegations of WMD use.

"The rebels were trained for several months in a training camp on the Jordanian-Syrian border by CIA operatives, as well as Jordanian and Israeli commandos, the paper said.

"The first group of 300 handpicked Free Syrian Army soldiers crossed the border on August 17 into the Deraa region, and a second group was deployed on August 19, the paper reported.

END QUOTES

Looking more and more possible all the time, isn't it?


tirob: Amos Quito: NO ONE has presented any evidence yet. It is ALL conjecture

As I stated above, Basel Al-Kana has made charges backed by evidence that you have chosen thus far not to respond to. See my post of 9:07 yesterday.



What evidence? Here, I'll repost his entire screed - you highlight the "evidence", okay?

tirob (from above)

"Why then, if the regime is telling the truth (that it's the rebels who are gassing the civilians), doesn't it permit the population [affected] to get help?  Why doesn't it order flags to be flown at half-staff?  Why doesn't the President [Assad] denounce the massacre of his OWN PEOPLE'S children?  Why does the regime's media deny that a massacre even took place?
Since when do the rebels have missile launchers?  Since when do they have the ability to handle and deliver chemical weapons?  Do they take us for idiots?  The people who are defending the regime are accomplices of child killers.  Period.  I am Syrian and I am outraged by this incredible lack of empathy.  I have pictures of the dead kids, and I can assure you that they resemble Quebec kids in every respect in their beauty and innocence.  Shame on the apologists.
Basel Al-Kana"


You keep claiming he provided "evidence"? WTF are you talking about?

You show me "evidence", and I'll respond.

Deal?

(Time stamp?)
 
2013-08-23 07:56:38 PM

Amos Quito: You show me "evidence", and I'll respond

What? You want me to provide "evidence" that your source is "mistaken"? LOL!  As for the "unanswered points", I believe I addressed every one. Be specific.


Al-Kana made several claims in his post.  They are, in order:

1. The Syrian government permitted no medical help to reach the survivors of the attacks in the Damascus suburbs.

2. The Syrian government did not order flags flown at half staff after the attacks occurred.

3.  The Syrian government did not denounce the perpetrators of the attacks.

4.  The Syrian government denied that any kind of attacks occurred.

5.  The rebels have no missile launchers.

6.  The rebels have nobody trained to handle and deliver chemical weapons.

In addition, the other (non-Syrian) poster I cited asserted:

7.  The Syrian government has refused to permit UN inspectors to visit the areas affected by the attacks.

8.  The Syrian government followed up the gas attacks by bombarding the affected areas with conventional weapons, this to conceal what they had done.

Of these eight points, you have addressed only the seventh, and that one not fully.

Do you believe any of these claims to be false?  Why?  And the reason I ask is that the six of the assertions were made by a writer who says that he is Syrian, the source is not from the mainstream media that you are so fond of blaming for pointing fingers at Assad, and neither of the writers is addressing Americans.  I think their assertions deserve a better response from you than "screed," "baseless," and "raw," particularly in the context of your repeated claims here that your own theories on this issue are factual and correct.

Amos Quito: Looking more and more possible all the time, isn't it?


Yep.  The chances went from 1/100th of 1 percent to 1/99th of 1 percent.  From your link:

"In June, the Los Angeles Times reported that CIA operatives and American special operations units have been training Free Syrian Army soldiers with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons since late 2012."

No evidence in your link that the FSA guerrillas that were sent into Syria were trained to handle and deliver chemical weapons.  Or that they were ever provided with any, or that they have ever had access to any.
 
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