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(People Magazine)   Bradley Manning just wants to be called Chelsea?   (people.com) divider line 144
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2013-08-22 08:00:47 AM
I thought he wanted to be Brenna I guess he changed his mind
 
2013-08-22 08:01:50 AM
well he's gonna be called "Prag" for at least a few years
 
2013-08-22 08:02:39 AM
Oh, he thinks he's The Special One
 
2013-08-22 08:03:41 AM
And the American taxpayer is going to foot the bill for this.  Nice.
 
2013-08-22 08:06:33 AM
That lipstick and wig is going to be popular where he's going.
 
2013-08-22 08:07:29 AM
So much for patient-doctor/therapist confidentiality.
Oh, right. He lost his rights when he:
a) Joined the Army
b) gave away state secrets
c) broke the law

Take your time.
 
2013-08-22 08:09:12 AM

bikerbob59: And the American taxpayer is going to foot the bill for this.  Nice.


should have charged him/her/it with treason and executed him/her/it
 
2013-08-22 08:09:43 AM
Could be a tactical move to get into a women's prison and avoid a daily PMITA.
 
2013-08-22 08:10:02 AM
Oh, did that somehow get leaked? Sorry Brad... er, Chelsea. But information wants to be free, right?
 
2013-08-22 08:10:16 AM
He should change his name to Victoria and open up a lingerie store.
 
2013-08-22 08:10:44 AM
ismmentalillness.files.wordpress.com

His cunning plan is way off schedule.
 
2013-08-22 08:11:21 AM
News Flash - unbalanced closet case joins the Army.
 
2013-08-22 08:11:42 AM
oh, look, more character assassination from the military, how mature of them

/seriously, what relevance does this have on his case?
//and if he didn't show the bullshiat the US military was doing, who would have?
///free Chelsea Manning
 
2013-08-22 08:15:44 AM

macadamnut: News Flash - unbalanced closet case joins the Army.


... and the Army gives him a Top Secret security clearance.
 
2013-08-22 08:18:29 AM
Well, the VA does cover therapy, hormones and surgery for transsexual people (I know a few former soldiers who were using the military as a way to hide from their reality).

But this sounds fake, personally. "Oh yeah, the guy who was just convicted of betraying his country? Yeah, he also thinks he's a chick."

Sorry, doesn't ring true given everything I've read.

That doesn't mean I don't think his punishment was justified - it was. He did it and it was serious. But this kind of backhanded stuff is what makes this case so terrible.
 
2013-08-22 08:18:38 AM
Womanning
 
2013-08-22 08:20:15 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: So much for patient-doctor/therapist confidentiality.
Oh, right. He lost his rights when he:
a) Joined the Army
b) gave away state secrets
c) broke the law

Take your time.


I don't condone what he did but his is a said story.  His family rejected him kicking him out of the house twice.  He has been isolated most of his life and went into the army to find a place to belong.  The army had no place for an effeminate soldier and he wound up isolated again.  What he did wasn't whistle blowing, he did a data dump and gave it away.  I wonder if it was a misplaced cry for help. You can condemn the crime while feeling sorry for the criminal.
 
2013-08-22 08:21:05 AM

bikerbob59: And the American taxpayer is going to foot the bill for this.  Nice.


I certainly hope not.
 
2013-08-22 08:21:28 AM
Was this part of the sentence he received? Seems a little cruel and unusual, I wonder if he can appeal.
 
2013-08-22 08:23:43 AM
I guess now he will have to sit down to make a leak.
 
2013-08-22 08:24:31 AM
yay, lets all mock him over this!
 
2013-08-22 08:25:41 AM
Just had a great idea:  Let's pardon Manning and then let him pay for his own hormones.
 
2013-08-22 08:26:37 AM

Onkel Buck: well he's gonna be called "Prag" for at least a few years


m.blog.hu
/Agrees
 
2013-08-22 08:28:39 AM
If it's in the daily fail, it has to be true.

Also, who gives a fark, even if true?

/other than transphobic idiots
//oh, right, that's most Farkers
///nevermind--carry on
 
2013-08-22 08:28:43 AM
He'll be out in 8 years, he can do it on his own time and his own dime.
 
2013-08-22 08:29:13 AM
BradleyLeaks

(after the first couple weeks in jail)
 
2013-08-22 08:30:09 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: So much for patient-doctor/therapist confidentiality.
Oh, right. He lost his rights when he:
a) Joined the Army
b) gave away state secrets
c) broke the law

Take your time.


No one talks about the "state secrets" he gave away. I wonder why?
 
2013-08-22 08:30:36 AM
But will he learn how to toss salad?
 
2013-08-22 08:31:48 AM
He doesn't make for a very attractive woman.

Then again, I don't make for a very attractive man.  C'est la vie.
 
2013-08-22 08:36:10 AM

ReapTheChaos: That lipstick and wig is going to be popular where he's going.

It's funny because rape. People getting raped is funny.
 
2013-08-22 08:37:02 AM

Fank: yay, lets all mock him over this!


welcometofark.jpg

/ kick em when they're up, kick em when they're down
 
2013-08-22 08:38:42 AM

SmackLT: Oh, he thinks he's The Special One


I see what you did there.
 
2013-08-22 08:40:35 AM

saintstryfe: Well, the VA does cover therapy, hormones and surgery for transsexual people (I know a few former soldiers who were using the military as a way to hide from their reality).

But this sounds fake, personally. "Oh yeah, the guy who was just convicted of betraying his country? Yeah, he also thinks he's a chick."

Sorry, doesn't ring true given everything I've read.

That doesn't mean I don't think his punishment was justified - it was. He did it and it was serious. But this kind of backhanded stuff is what makes this case so terrible.


No, I remember the defense starting a discussion about this a while ago, then it just vanished from the case information published in news articles.

/Being a woman in a male military prison must be hell.
//She can't or won't be transferred to a woman's prison until post-surgery, which is at least a year away.
///I hope that the next President pardons Snowden as performing a service to America (or Obama, but I can't see that happening)
////Manning on the other hand loaded a shotgun of with a scattershot of classified information and deserves punishment for stupidity if nothing else.
 
2013-08-22 08:42:47 AM

Exception Collection: //She can't or won't be transferred to a woman's prison until post-surgery, which is at least a year away.


You're saying the Army is going to pay for his sex change then move him to a women's prison? Seems legit.
 
2013-08-22 08:43:50 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: So much for patient-doctor/therapist confidentiality.
Oh, right. He lost his rights when he:
a) Joined the Army
b) gave away state secrets
c) broke the law

Take your time.


His being in the military aside, doctor/patient confidentiality only means they have to get a court order to view the files and if the defense brings it up in court first then they don't even need to do that.
 
2013-08-22 08:46:17 AM
Judging by the opinions expressed in this thread, Manning is to Criminal as Snowden is to Hero?

/trollface.jpg
 
2013-08-22 08:47:58 AM
Okay.  Who cares?

/Obviously I know lots of people care, but I don't understand why.
 
2013-08-22 08:48:20 AM
www.myfconline.com
 
2013-08-22 08:50:07 AM
Character assassination complete.
 
2013-08-22 08:50:51 AM
Chelsea, Chelsea, I believe, when you're dancin' slowly, sucking your sleeve, the boys get lonely after you leave, it's one for the Dagger and another for the one you believe.

DO-DA-DOOO, DO-DA-DOOO, DO-DA-DO-DO-DO-DA-DOOO

/it's in your head now
//you're welcome
 
2013-08-22 08:54:46 AM
Mose

He doesn't make for a very attractive woman.

Chelsea's are never attractive menwomen
youngeryou.ninemsn.com.au
 
2013-08-22 08:55:33 AM
www.gardentalk.com

It's not leaking when we do it.
 
2013-08-22 08:55:53 AM
Let's just meet in the middle and call him Traitor.

Works for me.
 
2013-08-22 09:01:10 AM

flucto: Exception Collection: //She can't or won't be transferred to a woman's prison until post-surgery, which is at least a year away.

You're saying the Army is going to pay for his sex change then move him to a women's prison? Seems legit.


It's been decided in at least one other case that the government should pay for SRS for a prisoner.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/04/michelle-kosilek-transgender - murder-convict-surgery-approved_n_1855192.html

Prison placements are based on physical sex, not gender identity.
 
2013-08-22 09:02:09 AM

PanicMan: Okay.  Who cares?

/Obviously I know lots of people care, but I don't understand why.


It's still socially acceptable to laugh at trans people. Unfortunately, that last statement includes the other people behind the letters in the LGBT salad. A lot of gay men and women have the same hangups with transgenders as straight people (Q: "Wait, you want to become a woman to date women?" A: "I am a woman."). I'm with you. I just don't care. But that's because I'm lazy and don't want to spend the summer reading about transgender issues and parsing my pronouns. Imma just gonna give the transgendered people in my life the benefit of the doubt.
 
2013-08-22 09:02:57 AM

OnlyM3: Mose

He doesn't make for a very attractive woman.
Chelsea's are never attractive menwomen
[youngeryou.ninemsn.com.au image 353x474]


Are those her teeth or Chiclets?
i489.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-22 09:04:16 AM
www.blackfive.net

/nothing to say
 
2013-08-22 09:05:08 AM

OnlyM3: Mose

He doesn't make for a very attractive woman.
Chelsea's are never attractive menwomen
[youngeryou.ninemsn.com.au image 353x474]


I beg to differ.

thedaleygator.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-22 09:06:25 AM
Well that little pronouncement, plus the cloud hovering over Assange, has certainly shed glory upon the whole Wikileaks thing.
Way to go Bradley, Julian you guys totally look trustworthy and balanced now rather than ineptly socialised marginal people with sexual issues.
 
2013-08-22 09:07:23 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: macadamnut: News Flash - unbalanced closet case joins the Army.

... and the Army gives him a Top Secret security clearance.


How this unbalanced fark-up was allowed near classified information is BEYOND me. The wiki page is a laundry list of mental health issues, insuborniation and outright misconduct.
 
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