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(Some Guy)   What do Microsoft, the NSA and the Chinese have in common? If you're using Win 8, the answer may be closer than you think   (testosteronepit.com) divider line 172
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2013-08-22 02:20:05 PM
Private_Citizen

This is about TPM 2.0, which won't really be in place until 2015 - although some companies will implement it early. And you won't be able to turn it off, and it is a backdoor...although they pinky swear it will only be used for good.

/I don't blame the Germans for warning their agencies to avoid Win 8. This is almost as bad as root kits on audio cds.


[Citation needed]
 
2013-08-22 02:25:50 PM

sheep snorter: The UFIA secutiy chip on the motherboard is a bad thing.

Don't buy an OEM board from HP(horse piss) or Dell(shiatty capacitors) or any other already windows installed systems.

But a board from newegg or any other parts supplier, so you can turn off UFIA without needing to hack your OEM board to turn off UFIA which is password key locked by the OEM Corporation. Then install/run Linux.

/UFIA: unsolicited finger in anus.
//Its a Fark tradition.


What do you know about Fark traditions, newb?
 
2013-08-22 02:27:07 PM

Private_Citizen: Mr. Eugenides: Private_Citizen: This is about TPM 2.0, which won't really be in place until 2015 - although some companies will implement it early. And you won't be able to turn it off, and it is a backdoor...although they pinky swear it will only be used for good.

/I don't blame the Germans for warning their agencies to avoid Win 8. This is almost as bad as root kits on audio cds.

Not that I don't trust your word, but can you explain how TPM 2.0 is a back door?

From the trusted computing foundation on why they updated the specs:

...the authorization mechanisms in TPM 1.2 did not provide sufficient flexibility for certain applications, prompting a push to include enhanced authorization in TPM 2.0 .The new secification also adds some additional functionality and capabilities.

Furthermore TCP 2.0 provides for:

...enhanced authorization: support for very flexible and fine-grained control over how and when TPM-protected data and keys can be accessed.

And that's from the faq. When the Germans looked over the detailed specs, that's when they issued the warning.


Still waiting for an answer as to why TPM 2.0 is a back door.  "Fine grained control" != "back door."
 
2013-08-22 02:36:29 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Still waiting for an answer as to why TPM 2.0 is a back door. "Fine grained control" != "back door."


You mean, aside from the fact that the TPM functionality in windows 8 can be activated by and controlled by microsoft without the consent of the user?
 
2013-08-22 02:49:39 PM

WTFDYW: HAd to purchase a new computer. Windows7 install would have cost me a bunch more money. Went ahead and bit Windows8 figuring I'd get used to it.

I did not get used to it. It blows dog. I will NEVER like this shiat.


Some computer repair shops take serial keys off of broken PCs that were never registered and sell them to key vendors online. It's totally legal, and is how I got my copy of Windows 7 Ultimate for $25. Unfortunately the site I bought from is no longer in business and many of these new ones look questionable.
 
2013-08-22 03:11:39 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Why would we trust the Germans, they bombed Pearl Harbor.


... Damn you
 
2013-08-22 03:28:46 PM
If, for some reason, someone is interested in checking out Winodows 8.1, the developer preview will remain active untill January.
 
2013-08-22 03:37:04 PM

WTFDYW: HAd to purchase a new computer. Windows7 install would have cost me a bunch more money. Went ahead and bit Windows8 figuring I'd get used to it.

I did not get used to it. It blows dog. I will NEVER like this shiat.


It's like it was designed to convert everyone into a casual user. Consume more, use less.
 
2013-08-22 03:58:38 PM

Driedsponge: It's crap like this that actually makes me believe that within my lifetime "the year of the linux desktop" will cease to be a myth.  It's very difficult for the rest of the world to justify using MS software when they are handing the keys to your endpoints directly to the US government.  Especially when the rules specifically allow the NSA to spy on foreign systems at will.

It's also stuff like this that makes me very angry that Autodesk Production Suite does not support anything but Windows.  I'd have ditched MS in my entire office after XP if we could get a decent modeling software in Linux.


Likewise, the only reason I keep XP around is because it runs Solidworks and Linux won't.

I've been messing around with Fedora since it's 4'th release, so I've been getting a kick not having to mess with Windows.
 
2013-08-22 04:04:58 PM
I just started using Windows 8 last week. I want to straight-up murder someone (preferably our IT guy, but anyone will do, really).

Question:  How do I get Adobe reader to just take up half the damn screen at a time? And how do I pin it to the farking task bar?
 
2013-08-22 04:17:43 PM
I remember when Intel began this offensive offensive, in 1995 when they supported the Clipper chip. That was the reason I started using AMD. But now that they have the manufacturers like Asus, etc in their pocket, I guess we now have to run our virtual machines off big flash drives running on a souped-up Raspberry Pi, Lo-Tech style.

It's an interesting sociopolitical demonstration of societal control: we're literally living through the marginalization of personal freedom. Oh well, anyhoo, I have to catch a plane to Sweden in 26 minutes. Mmmmmbuh-bye.
 
2013-08-22 04:24:26 PM
Hey, guys. Remember that time NASDAQ crashed? They should switch to Linux.

/What?
 
2013-08-22 04:35:23 PM

ReverendJynxed: It's like it was designed to convert everyone into a casual user. Consume more, use less.


Actually, I like the start screen better than the start menu. How, you ask? here's how:

1. Install Start8 and configure it so that it shows a windows  icon for the start screen that can be right-clicked on, set it to auto-go to the desktop on login, and configure right-click-on-windows-button to show the same advanced commands as Win+C.

2. Clean all of the metro crap out of the start screen, and replace with columns that include commonly accessed .msc functions, computer folders and locations, control panels (you can pin things like programs and features and network locations directly to the start screen) and other system function items right there, along with a list of apps you want to be able to access easily.

3. Map Ctrl+Space to go directly to the Windows app search function -- quick launcher feature.

4. Build batch scripts to replace or add functionality -- I've added batch scripts into icons that do start, restart, log off, sleep, refresh IP address, mount network volumes, and other tedious multi-click-and-type tasks (including a quick launch command to open an Admin shell or pop open a putty session and connect to a remote server as needed).

5. Add most common apps to task bar itself for quick access.

Done and done. Everything I could do with a start menu before, I can do now with it, and it's organized in the way that I like, and has much less need to drill through it. Hell, it's the same as OS X 10.8, really, with its launchpad functionality. Except if i really want to, my "launch pad" can include active apps that show calendar information, email, the weather, and other pertinent information.

Frankly, the start menu sucks balls. And, while i'm on the topic, having each window as a separate task rather than having them bundled so I can easily quit an application and close all of its ancillary windows, is retarded.

And, how the hell do you kill a full-screen app that's dead and won't let the task manager show up on screen to kill it?
 
2013-08-22 04:35:53 PM

washington-babylon: Did you get in as a Founder? I absolutely love MWO!


I wish. I do have a totally biatching bad ass Atlas though that I've finally earned enough to customize the perfect load out

...and a hula girl on the dash, because when my guas rifle is turning your mech into hot liquid metal likely burning your pilot alive inside I want to think of the beaches
 
2013-08-22 04:48:39 PM

technoblogical: Hey, guys. Remember that time NASDAQ crashed? They should switch to Linux.

/What?


Someone already said that. We ignored it then, too.
 
2013-08-22 04:54:17 PM

Kit Fister: ReverendJynxed: It's like it was designed to convert everyone into a casual user. Consume more, use less.

Actually, I like the start screen better than the start menu. How, you ask? here's how:

1. Install Start8 and configure it so that it shows a windows  icon for the start screen that can be right-clicked on, set it to auto-go to the desktop on login, and configure right-click-on-windows-button to show the same advanced commands as Win+C.

2. Clean all of the metro crap out of the start screen, and replace with columns that include commonly accessed .msc functions, computer folders and locations, control panels (you can pin things like programs and features and network locations directly to the start screen) and other system function items right there, along with a list of apps you want to be able to access easily.

3. Map Ctrl+Space to go directly to the Windows app search function -- quick launcher feature.

4. Build batch scripts to replace or add functionality -- I've added batch scripts into icons that do start, restart, log off, sleep, refresh IP address, mount network volumes, and other tedious multi-click-and-type tasks (including a quick launch command to open an Admin shell or pop open a putty session and connect to a remote server as needed).

5. Add most common apps to task bar itself for quick access.

Done and done. Everything I could do with a start menu before, I can do now with it, and it's organized in the way that I like, and has much less need to drill through it. Hell, it's the same as OS X 10.8, really, with its launchpad functionality. Except if i really want to, my "launch pad" can include active apps that show calendar information, email, the weather, and other pertinent information.

Frankly, the start menu sucks balls. And, while i'm on the topic, having each window as a separate task rather than having them bundled so I can easily quit an application and close all of its ancillary windows, is retarded.

And, how the hell do you kill a ...


Actually, that's a pretty neat idea, I'm gonna try that.

The problem with your brilliant plan completely ignores the fact that almost everyone who has used Windows will have no idea what you're talking about.

If you have a mom/dad/grandma who just got a Win8 "puter",  install ClassicShell.
 
2013-08-22 05:14:30 PM

peterthx: NutWrench: Also, don't use Windows Bitlocker, unless you trust Microsoft not to have engineered a backdoor into it.

/use third party open-source encryption, instead.

Yeah, because a bunch of faceless people in the shadows would never do that either.
It's not like there could be class action lawsuits or bad publicity that could be directed against one entity.

/bunch of paranoid children
//article is full of "they could" or "what ifs", not actual practices


Here's the thing, though- those "faceless people in the shadows" have to show us the program they've written. The SOURCE code that makes it run is OPEN to everyone.

Now, I don't know if you've spent much time around geeks, so you may not know this, but they like to seem smarter than other geeks. So, if your hypothetical "faceless person" wrote a backdoor exploit into an open source program, there would be a race to see who'd be the first to point it out.

Peer review's a thing. And it tends to work rather well.
 
2013-08-22 05:15:25 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: washington-babylon: Did you get in as a Founder? I absolutely love MWO!

I wish. I do have a totally biatching bad ass Atlas though that I've finally earned enough to customize the perfect load out

...and a hula girl on the dash, because when my guas rifle is turning your mech into hot liquid metal likely burning your pilot alive inside I want to think of the beaches


I went with the Atlas (was there ever any other choice?) for my founder reward. I get chills every time I play.
 
2013-08-22 05:38:21 PM
win7 and daz loader
 
2013-08-22 10:20:59 PM

WayToBlue: StoPPeRmobile: Whatthefark: I remember hearing about this with Windows 98\2000.

Yep, it took a while but it happened like many of us said.

Really? "It" happened? What exactly happened?

This article is fud.




You. You happened, sucking at your lord's tit.
 
2013-08-23 01:12:12 AM

Mr_Fabulous: I just started using Windows 8 last week. I want to straight-up murder someone (preferably our IT guy, but anyone will do, really).

Question:  How do I get Adobe reader to just take up half the damn screen at a time? And how do I pin it to the farking task bar?


Install the desktop version from the Adobe web site. If you stay far away from the Windows App Store and get apps the old fashioned way, they will work like they always have. If you are not on a touchscreen device, you don't want to mess with any of the Start Screen apps anyway, because the basically suck with a mouse and keyboard (for example to close them you have to click them at the top and then drag down, simulating a downward swipe on a touch screen),
 
2013-08-23 03:50:38 PM

StoPPeRmobile: WayToBlue: StoPPeRmobile: Whatthefark: I remember hearing about this with Windows 98\2000.

Yep, it took a while but it happened like many of us said.

Really? "It" happened? What exactly happened?

This article is fud.



You. You happened, sucking at your lord's tit.


Oh dear. You don't even know why you're excited, do you?

Can you relay even the slightest notion of what you're whining about?
 
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