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(Boston.com)   Internet Dickwad Theory finally catches up with HuffPo, who just announced that anonymous comments would no longer be permitted. Good thing everyone on Fark posts with their real name, and not some ridiculous, made-up handle, such as "Drew"   (boston.com ) divider line
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2013-08-22 12:09:26 PM  

CptnSpldng: Cybernetic: phaseolus: Incidentally I'd love to see a feature on Fark some day that lists how everyone's farkied us -- just a list of farkies, no corresponding user names -- plus maybe the number of people who have put us on ignore. It would be ... illuminating.

O wad some pow'r the giftie gie us yadda yadda yadda

I would be curious to see counts of "favorited" vs. "ignored". Not who, just how many.

Or mabye a relative score: +1 for each favorite, -1 for each ignore, so an overall +3 would mean three more favorites than ignores.

And how would you score a user name favorited as :turd and colored in unreadable grey?


That would be, like, minus eleventy brazillian.
 
2013-08-22 12:13:57 PM  

picturescrazy: I'd never want to start an online community. Fark is a rare jewel indeed where even the worst discussions look ten times better than the best on most sites, even with our fake names.


It's age.  Most (but not all) farkers are in their 30's to 40's, so we're ALL cynical bastards to one degree or another and frankly just do not care on iota about words on a screen; which tends to disappoint the much younger people who appear here looking for justification of their retarded world view. When you go to somewhere like Reddit the average age is mid - early 20's, you get the occasional person who's older and a LOT who seem to be much younger; they'll quite happily rally around something which is demonstrably false IF it fits their world view and get quite upset with anyone who points out their talking complete bollocks.

Which does some up the majority of 'content' on such sites inhabited by tweens:  complete and utter bollocks.
 
2013-08-22 12:14:06 PM  

vygramul: The truth is that something must change - even if the demand for trolling is inelastic, it seems unlikely that it's so inelastic it makes zero difference. It might not matter to 13 year-old gamers, but it is going to matter to 30 year-old commenters who might think twice about what would happen if their employer finds out they're a douchenozzle


The real problem is the ease with which you can seriously fark up the life of someone who you disagree with, and the people most willing to dispense with their own version of internet justice are the ones who are most easily offended. Ironically, they also tend to get away with it because it can be done anonymously.
 
2013-08-22 12:15:14 PM  

GoldSpider: Oh com'on, every side needs their useful idiots.


www.sagecomm.com

("Know Thyself.")
 
2013-08-22 12:17:34 PM  
I work with a guy who's name is Richard King (what were his parents thinking). Would he banned from there?
 
2013-08-22 12:20:41 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: fark these "real names only" people.


Ironically I had a similar 'debate' with someone calling for people posting 'hateful' comments to the Daily Mail website to use their real names.  So we can make sure they are keeping to their alleged ideas.   Naturally that person wanted to stay safely ensconced in behind a psudoname and was quite upset when I pointed out the fallacy of that.

What people who call for 'real names' mean is that YOU should use your real name I however should remain immune to such things.

Which doesn't hold much sway with me.
 
2013-08-22 12:30:05 PM  
i use my real initials
of course WTF  gets my attention
i stand behind what i put here

35 years ago this could have been obama.
 
2013-08-22 12:30:50 PM  

Langston: vygramul: The truth is that something must change - even if the demand for trolling is inelastic, it seems unlikely that it's so inelastic it makes zero difference. It might not matter to 13 year-old gamers, but it is going to matter to 30 year-old commenters who might think twice about what would happen if their employer finds out they're a douchenozzle

The real problem is the ease with which you can seriously fark up the life of someone who you disagree with, and the people most willing to dispense with their own version of internet justice are the ones who are most easily offended. Ironically, they also tend to get away with it because it can be done anonymously.


That's the actual problem with this, not some wishful thinking that people don't respond to incentives.
 
2013-08-22 12:32:38 PM  

Langston:  Ironically, they also tend to get away with it because it can be done anonymously.


There is a phrase I think more people should learn as a child:

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can't hurt me.

Now that isn't always true however someone you don't know says something you consider to be nasty towards you though a global communications network.  So the person is as likely to be next door as they are on the other side of the planet.   So it's someone you don't know and are unlikely ever to meet as there are 6 Billion people on this planet.  All things being equal you have to ask yourself a question:  Do I actually care?

If you answer 'yes' then you're going to have a fairly bad time, not just online but probably in real life as well.
 
2013-08-22 12:46:16 PM  
I don't know what could be a more obvious pen name than "Drew."

/Well, maybe "Wright."
 
2013-08-22 12:52:13 PM  
Oh, come on..! Everybody knows I'm really a lesbian using a male alt in order to be taken more seriously in the man's world of the Internet.

/Or am I a male using a lesbian alt in order to be taken more seriously in female-dominated corners of the Internet?
//Or am I a person with dissociative identity disorder who has both male and female alters?
///Or am I just a bot on a Canadian server that runs on beer and poutine dumped into my Mr. Fusion port?
 
2013-08-22 12:59:18 PM  
Rich people like Ariana Huffington hate anonymity. In theory Ms. Huffy has enough money and influence to get the vast majority of people in this country fired and otherwise ruin their lives should she set her mind to it. She might not actually do it but the fact that she can makes her tingly in her shriveled cooter. Anonymity negates that power and levels the playing field.

The man on the street doesn't give a shiat about mean comments on the internet. The 1%, oligarchs, however you want to call them hate the idea that the "little" people can act without "consequences". Just like the money, power, position, and influence allows their "betters" to.
 
2013-08-22 12:59:27 PM  
I'd be fine with it, except it's now far too damned easy for someone else to use even that small piece of information to make your life a living hell in the real world.

I don't think HuffPo understands that, the second they implement this, their comments section is going to croak - it won't just flush out trolls, it'll also put a gag around every person that doesn't want their personal comments about political issues linked directly to their careers, or to their families, or to their hobbies, where their employers, relatives, friends, and enemies can exploit them for any number of purposes.

Yes, trolls suck. Just look at the Politics tab on FARK. But, as they say, the product of freedom and security is a constant - you want more freedom, you give up more security, and vice versa. HuffPo wants way too much security, and they're willing to give up a lot of freedom to get it. I'd rather be free and deal with trolls, than secure but unable to say a damned thing without hearing about it from my boss, or my wife, or my co-workers, or a recruiter, or...
 
2013-08-22 12:59:28 PM  
If they are seriuous about reducing the amount of baseless braindead troll material they are going to have to rid of thier "journalism" staff.
 
2013-08-22 01:18:03 PM  

picturescrazy: I'd never want to start an online community. Fark is a rare jewel indeed where even the worst discussions look ten times better than the best on most sites, even with our fake names.


You know, that is very true.  While sometimes contentious (certainly on the politics board), the discourse here is usually very enlightening.  I typically know more about a subject, sometimes much more, from reading the Fark comments, than I would have had I just read the article, or depended on the commenters at some inferior news aggregator site.
 
2013-08-22 01:49:22 PM  

Langston: naptapper: If only Fark would do the same thing maybe I could go back to enjoying the comments. Sigh.

It's like you've never figured out how to use the ignore feature. It's literally two clicks and you never see the person again


That is too much work. Somebody else should have to make sure that me and my delicate sensibilities are not offended.
 
2013-08-22 01:50:12 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: picturescrazy: I'd never want to start an online community. Fark is a rare jewel indeed where even the worst discussions look ten times better than the best on most sites, even with our fake names.

You know, that is very true.  While sometimes contentious (certainly on the politics board), the discourse here is usually very enlightening.  I typically know more about a subject, sometimes much more, from reading the Fark comments, than I would have had I just read the article, or depended on the commenters at some inferior news aggregator site.


We're certainly no youtube comments section.
 
2013-08-22 02:00:03 PM  
Fark Huffpo and their retarded articles.  No offense to actual retards, some of them are actually fair and nice people.

I once made an account to comment on the Ariel Castro case or something, they moderated away my perfectly reasonable comments, but left up vile garbage like "All men should be castrated a birth!"  So it's not okay to post stuff that disturbs their echo chamber, but it's okay to post blatant calls to/threats of violence.... wow.

Now if I want to numb my brain after a hard day I surf somewhere reasonable like 4chan instead.  /Sarcasm, sort of..... At least they are fair.
 
2013-08-22 02:19:02 PM  

vygramul: Pumpernickel bread: picturescrazy: I'd never want to start an online community. Fark is a rare jewel indeed where even the worst discussions look ten times better than the best on most sites, even with our fake names.

You know, that is very true.  While sometimes contentious (certainly on the politics board), the discourse here is usually very enlightening.  I typically know more about a subject, sometimes much more, from reading the Fark comments, than I would have had I just read the article, or depended on the commenters at some inferior news aggregator site.

We're certainly no youtube comments section.


Absolutely, the comments range from detached mockery to snide remarks... here at Fark, we pride ourselves on relevant discussions that informs.
Oh, that's not what we do?

Right... "It's not News, It's Fark"
A collection of personalities vying for attention with 'funny' comments that would make a Jr. High cafeteria look tame.
If only humor was a detached sense of futility where the critic's job is to whine incessantly, then Fark would take the gold.
 
2013-08-22 02:25:03 PM  
Pretty much formal introductions at a circle jerk.
 
2013-08-22 02:34:18 PM  

Fano: I'm Brian, and so is my wife.


I watched a movie about your life, and loved it!
 
2013-08-22 02:46:55 PM  

George Babbitt: skinink: I stand 100% behind her changes, or my name isn't Orville Reddenbacher.

But she does have a good point and I partially agree with it. Behind a cloak of online anonymity too many people act like jerk and make things too personal. Here on Fark people go onto the Sports Tab, of all places, and act like they're defending the Constitution the way they behave towards other people over stupid subjects.

I like Drew's method better. Give the User power over whose comments they want to Ignore by making a list. It makes Fark more enjoyable to read.

FYI, I am the only one who hasn't ignored you, but I enjoy our time together.


I haven't ignored anyone.  I just farkie them in different colors and tag lines.  Now to forums look like an Andy Warhol painting.
 
2013-08-22 02:50:57 PM  

FTDA: George Babbitt: skinink: I stand 100% behind her changes, or my name isn't Orville Reddenbacher.

But she does have a good point and I partially agree with it. Behind a cloak of online anonymity too many people act like jerk and make things too personal. Here on Fark people go onto the Sports Tab, of all places, and act like they're defending the Constitution the way they behave towards other people over stupid subjects.

I like Drew's method better. Give the User power over whose comments they want to Ignore by making a list. It makes Fark more enjoyable to read.

FYI, I am the only one who hasn't ignored you, but I enjoy our time together.

I haven't ignored anyone.  I just farkie them in different colors and tag lines.  Now to forums look like an Andy Warhol painting.


Is that the reason there are so many psychotic breaks around here?
 
2013-08-22 03:03:29 PM  
I'd love it if my local paper disallowed anonymous comments. What a bunch of farkwads on there.
 
2013-08-22 03:11:44 PM  

NostroZ: vygramul: Pumpernickel bread: picturescrazy: I'd never want to start an online community. Fark is a rare jewel indeed where even the worst discussions look ten times better than the best on most sites, even with our fake names.

You know, that is very true.  While sometimes contentious (certainly on the politics board), the discourse here is usually very enlightening.  I typically know more about a subject, sometimes much more, from reading the Fark comments, than I would have had I just read the article, or depended on the commenters at some inferior news aggregator site.

We're certainly no youtube comments section.

Absolutely, the comments range from detached mockery to snide remarks... here at Fark, we pride ourselves on relevant discussions that informs.
Oh, that's not what we do?

Right... "It's not News, It's Fark"
A collection of personalities vying for attention with 'funny' comments that would make a Jr. High cafeteria look tame.
If only humor was a detached sense of futility where the critic's job is to whine incessantly, then Fark would take the gold.


See.. yer being snide again... cut it out.
 
2013-08-22 03:16:54 PM  

George Babbitt: FTDA: George Babbitt: skinink: I stand 100% behind her changes, or my name isn't Orville Reddenbacher.

But she does have a good point and I partially agree with it. Behind a cloak of online anonymity too many people act like jerk and make things too personal. Here on Fark people go onto the Sports Tab, of all places, and act like they're defending the Constitution the way they behave towards other people over stupid subjects.

I like Drew's method better. Give the User power over whose comments they want to Ignore by making a list. It makes Fark more enjoyable to read.

FYI, I am the only one who hasn't ignored you, but I enjoy our time together.

I haven't ignored anyone.  I just farkie them in different colors and tag lines.  Now to forums look like an Andy Warhol painting.

Is that the reason there are so many psychotic breaks around here?


It's quite possible!
 
2013-08-22 03:17:30 PM  
Good for them I look forward to posting there under my real name Chuck U Farley.
 
2013-08-22 03:26:08 PM  

phaseolus: Incidentally I'd love to see a feature on Fark some day that lists how everyone's farkied us -- just a list of farkies, no corresponding user names -- plus maybe the number of people who have put us on ignore. It would be ... illuminating.

O wad some pow'r the giftie gie us yadda yadda yadda


I don't ignore anyone, I just farkie with different colors and tag lines.  My list is currently at 1817 users.  Are you sure you want to see this information?
 
2013-08-22 03:29:48 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: Anyone not Just Like Me is a troll.

Didn't you guys read your internets instruction manual when you first got online? Just look at the Fark commie tab for lots of examples.


Yes, way back in 1997.  The first thing they said about the internet was, "make sure you never give out  your real address or any identifying information, because there are crazies out there, and you usually have no clue who you are really taking to"...
 
2013-08-22 03:34:11 PM  
I always post with my real name cause it's a wopr.
 
2013-08-22 03:34:33 PM  
I created a user for Huffington Post and everything.  Got banned for the very Boobies.

Just something stupid like "You white people scare easily" in response to an equally stupid article.

I guess they didn't like me.  fark 'em
 
2013-08-22 03:36:18 PM  

mytdawg: I created a user for Huffington Post and everything.  Got banned for the very Boobies.

Just something stupid like "You white people scare easily" in response to an equally stupid article.

I guess they didn't like me.  fark 'em


Oh son of a biatch.  First time I've ever tripped that filter.
 
2013-08-22 03:37:28 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Lady J

her second book got turned down by 37 publishers


In a row?


www.filmbuffonline.com
 
2013-08-22 03:49:10 PM  
Out of pure laziness, I usually end up using my real name for logins everywhere, anyway... I usually try "Agrajag" first, but 99.9% of the time, that's already been taken by another Hitchhiker's Guide fan, so other than that I've got nothing creative I want to go by other than my own name... And, I hate doing the old "keep appending random numbers to the name until you find a version that hasn't yet been taken" trick... (Though, I did settle on "Agrajag4242" for my Xbox gamertag...)
 
2013-08-22 04:17:28 PM  

sulco: I've never understood the sites/newspapers/etc that use Facebook accts as their line of authentication for commenting on their sites.


Well, demanding DNA samples can be time consuming and messy.
 
2013-08-22 04:38:59 PM  
The bigger LOL is out there.

Imagine how many Phillip Smiths there are.  The farking websites DON'T EVEN VERIFY YOUR NAME AT ALL they just shunt it off to google or farcebook.


Frankly I don't bother with websites that require a facebook login for comment.  Its like requiring shiat smeared hands to wave at a parade.

Wait.. not "like".   Being able to post comments at a news site because you have a Facebook account is PRECISELY waving your shiat smeared hands in public!
 
2013-08-22 04:56:29 PM  

RembrandtQEinstein: Rich people like Ariana Huffington hate anonymity. In theory Ms. Huffy has enough money and influence to get the vast majority of people in this country fired and otherwise ruin their lives should she set her mind to it. She might not actually do it but the fact that she can makes her tingly in her shriveled cooter. Anonymity negates that power and levels the playing field.

The man on the street doesn't give a shiat about mean comments on the internet. The 1%, oligarchs, however you want to call them hate the idea that the "little" people can act without "consequences". Just like the money, power, position, and influence allows their "betters" to.


Not bad. Not bad at all. I'd go a full 8/10 on this one, but since no one has bit I'll have to drop it down to a measly 5/10. Shame.
 
2013-08-22 05:40:20 PM  

RobSeace: Out of pure laziness, I usually end up using my real name for logins everywhere, anyway... I usually try "Agrajag" first, but 99.9% of the time, that's already been taken by another Hitchhiker's Guide fan, so other than that I've got nothing creative I want to go by other than my own name... And, I hate doing the old "keep appending random numbers to the name until you find a version that hasn't yet been taken" trick... (Though, I did settle on "Agrajag4242" for my Xbox gamertag...)


I'm using my full legal name also.

My parents sucked.
 
2013-08-22 07:12:49 PM  

Badgers: You lost any relevance you may have had when you sold out to AOL in 2011, so just be quiet, you annoying greek wench.


Ha .She reminds me of Zsa Zsa Gabor .
 
2013-08-22 07:29:29 PM  
Nelly, I am Heathcliff!
 
2013-08-22 09:23:03 PM  
What's wrong with anonymous if the threads are moderated?
 
2013-08-22 10:07:08 PM  
Since the Huffpo parent is AOL, guess what no longer anonymous posters will be getting a lot of in the mail?

On the plus side, by now they are probably up to like a 5 years free dialup subscription.  But they send you like 30 cds a day.  At least it's no longer 3.5" disks.

And they have some great features, like USENET, but without the alt.* groups and no binaries.  And you can go on to their great moderated chat rooms, with like six elderly people who hoard and have cats.
 
2013-08-22 10:08:16 PM  

naptapper: If only Fark would do the same thing maybe I could go back to enjoying the comments. Sigh.


Posted under his real name...
 
2013-08-22 10:11:35 PM  
The internet should have zero anonymity.
 
2013-08-22 10:33:14 PM  
They should all use Spartacus.
 
2013-08-22 10:51:12 PM  
So I'm doing it right already? Sweet.
 
2013-08-23 12:47:44 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: The internet should have zero anonymity.


That's already the case.

i172.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-23 09:58:24 AM  

Badgers: PunGent: Badgers: You lost any relevance you may have had when you sold out to AOL in 2011, so just be quiet, you annoying greek wench.

Your primary complaints against her are based on her gender, her ethnic origin, and the fact that she's apparently a capitalist?

HuffPo may not be the problem here...

Nope, you are no longer the problem here...

*favorited!*


ANOTHER Tf Giant Pussy?  Lol.  Give my regards to Boy Ratty.
 
2013-08-23 10:34:07 AM  

Fusilier: Well, demanding DNA samples can be time consuming and messy.


Funny, I've never found that to be the case with your Mom.

Mostly `cause I'm a fast finisher, and she's not a "quitter" if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2013-08-23 12:07:34 PM  

PunGent: Badgers: PunGent: Badgers: You lost any relevance you may have had when you sold out to AOL in 2011, so just be quiet, you annoying greek wench.

Your primary complaints against her are based on her gender, her ethnic origin, and the fact that she's apparently a capitalist?

HuffPo may not be the problem here...

Nope, you are no longer the problem here...

*favorited!*

ANOTHER Tf Giant Pussy?  Lol.  Give my regards to Boy Ratty.


Careful, he may very well favorited! you too!
 
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