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2013-08-21 10:46:39 PM  
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2013-08-21 10:47:37 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes, because being in the seat in front of an obnoxious little bastard is so much better than being in the seat next to one.  There's no cure for it.  Unless they start having adults-only flights, the little screamers are going to disturb the rest of us no matter what.

That said, I'd pay the extra for the positively palatial 35" seat.


Pretty much. We just need a soundproof room on each plane, that's all. Or entirely childfree flights...*dreams*
 
2013-08-21 10:49:54 PM  

Vector R: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes, because being in the seat in front of an obnoxious little bastard is so much better than being in the seat next to one.  There's no cure for it.  Unless they start having adults-only flights, the little screamers are going to disturb the rest of us no matter what.

That said, I'd pay the extra for the positively palatial 35" seat.

Pretty much. We just need a soundproof room on each plane, that's all. Or entirely childfree flights...*dreams*


It's called the cargo hold.
 
2013-08-21 10:50:34 PM  
theflatline:
A little swat or a grounding never hurt anyone.  Kids today get a timeout.  OR their iphones taken away for a day.  They know there are no consequences to their actions.

A timeout is a grounding. Maybe you assume most timeouts only last 15 minutes or whatever, but being grounded for a day is still just a timeout. And yes, taking away an iphone seems silly to you, but for a kid who has grown up always being able to talk to their friends even when they can't hang out, losing that connection is tough.

Your beef is with parents who don't actually communicate to their children why the corrective action is being taken. Parents who just sit a kid down in the corner for 15 minutes and then when that time is up it's a free-for-all again.

You're gonna have a tough life if you're always questioning the parenting techniques of the younger generations. Learn to let it go. Revel in the humor of a 4-year-old sitting down in the middle of a supermarket aisle because the pasta looked at her funny.
 
2013-08-21 10:52:34 PM  

jaylectricity: theflatline:
A little swat or a grounding never hurt anyone.  Kids today get a timeout.  OR their iphones taken away for a day.  They know there are no consequences to their actions.

A timeout is a grounding. Maybe you assume most timeouts only last 15 minutes or whatever, but being grounded for a day is still just a timeout. And yes, taking away an iphone seems silly to you, but for a kid who has grown up always being able to talk to their friends even when they can't hang out, losing that connection is tough.

Your beef is with parents who don't actually communicate to their children why the corrective action is being taken. Parents who just sit a kid down in the corner for 15 minutes and then when that time is up it's a free-for-all again.

You're gonna have a tough life if you're always questioning the parenting techniques of the younger generations. Learn to let it go. Revel in the humor of a 4-year-old sitting down in the middle of a supermarket aisle because the pasta looked at her funny.


Reasonable, thoughtful comments will NOT be tolerated. This is FARK, dammit.
 
2013-08-21 10:52:44 PM  

Oznog: NFA: [earology.files.wordpress.com image 264x256]

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The cheaper solution

Your idea only helps ONE person.

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This is the more PRACTICAL solution.


Yeah, but you have to plan so far ahead and make the mother shave for that to work.
 
2013-08-21 10:53:54 PM  
Flap all off you taking your small lumps of gold on my flight !!!

I had so many flights with no sleep because somebody need to bring a kid around the in the world
even had in Biz class seats somebody found the kids needed that extra leg room and I did not need
any sleep

Flights are 2 cheap, let kids pay full cost, perhaps next time they drive, or stop replicating
 
2013-08-21 10:54:07 PM  
As a frequent flyer, I've found some good noise-blocking earbuds playing thunderstorm noises from an app and a Xanax take care of most noise issues.

/good headphones make all the difference, even if its just white noise while you read
 
2013-08-21 10:56:20 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes, because being in the seat in front of an obnoxious little bastard is so much better than being in the seat next to one.  There's no cure for it.  Unless they start having adults-only flights, the little screamers are going to disturb the rest of us no matter what.

That said, I'd pay the extra for the positively palatial 35" seat.

I would pay extra for adult only flights.


What an adult only flight attendant might look like:

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2013-08-21 10:57:34 PM  

Snarfangel: Tax Boy: How about a Fattie-Free zone?

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Alternate fatties with little kids. It's a win-win.

OoO OoO


The fat folds snuff out the screaming.
 
2013-08-21 10:57:42 PM  

Teufel Ritter: Warlordtrooper: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes, because being in the seat in front of an obnoxious little bastard is so much better than being in the seat next to one.  There's no cure for it.  Unless they start having adults-only flights, the little screamers are going to disturb the rest of us no matter what.

That said, I'd pay the extra for the positively palatial 35" seat.

I would pay extra for adult only flights.

What an adult only flight attendant might look like:

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/Wasn't a naughty pic.
//Should have previewed.
 
2013-08-21 10:58:01 PM  
As a parent, I have no problem with a separate adults only area. In fact, I prefer it. That's why we always sit near the back of the plane as that's generally where other families sit as well.

But the internet tough guys who always come into these threads and claim that kids should be banned from planes entirely are ridiculous. Airplanes aren't a nice restaurant, or a movie theatre. It's a form of transportation. And with the way most carriers treat their customers, if an airplane was equivalent to a restaurant, it'd be a Denny's. So put your earbuds in and enjoy your peanuts.
 
2013-08-21 10:59:05 PM  

jaylectricity: Revel in the humor of a 4-year-old sitting down in the middle of a supermarket aisle because the pasta looked at her funny.


Okay, but I'll be shooting her guardian death through my eyeballs the entire time they allow their child to act up.
 
2013-08-21 11:02:13 PM  

gweilo8888: ear plugs, look into them


Don't work.  They block all the other quieter noises, leaving only the muffled cries of the child for you to hear.

Better choice is in-ear earbuds with a rubber grommet and a music player.  But even those don't work if the child is immediately adjacent to you.  At that point, Vicodin and a few vodka chasers is the only thing that works.
 
2013-08-21 11:04:44 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: adults-only flights


This would be awesome.
 
2013-08-21 11:05:13 PM  

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Immediate solution.
 
2013-08-21 11:06:57 PM  
I see the spoiled little child hating Fark brats are back at it.

Is there anything you liberal douchebags don't hate besides Abortion and the idiot in the oval?

It isn't great for the parents when their kids cry or whine.  But they have just as much right to travel then you whiny assholes.
 
2013-08-21 11:08:00 PM  

profplump: but could we please admit that the difference between "child free" and "jew free" is all but non-existant


Did you seriously just bring racial segregation into a thread about places where small children should not be?

Wow. And the worst part is, I think you're not just threadshiatting. You actually believe this.
 
2013-08-21 11:08:37 PM  
BGates: I see the spoiled little child hating Fark brats are back at it.

Is there anything you liberal douchebags don't hate besides Abortion and the idiot in the oval?

Remember, kids: if you think you might be too drunk to post, you are too drunk to post.
 
2013-08-21 11:12:10 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: Is there anything you liberal douchebags don't hate besides Abortion and the idiot in the oval?


Yknow, I think my "cheap insult" card is about due for an update. You're next.
 
2013-08-21 11:14:04 PM  
Because aside from the kids, flying is such a pleasant experience.
 
2013-08-21 11:14:33 PM  
What a bunch of whiners and complainers. You can't handle a baby crying, a kid acting out, someone child having a meltdown at a restaurant? Most of you would fit in at my work where there is a pitched battle over whether the thermostat should be 71 or 72 degrees. I pity your inability to handle these horrifying experiences. Were you such a precious little snowflake that you never learned basic coping skills?
 
2013-08-21 11:15:36 PM  

TsukasaK: profplump: but could we please admit that the difference between "child free" and "jew free" is all but non-existant

Did you seriously just bring racial segregation into a thread about places where small children should not be?

Wow. And the worst part is, I think you're not just threadshiatting. You actually believe this.


Let me laugh at you!

You misspelled "I would prefer not to be exposed to them."
 
2013-08-21 11:16:28 PM  

BelKimi: You can't handle a baby crying, a kid acting out, someone child having a meltdown at a restaurant?


Quite the contrary. Babies cry, kids act out.

What I will shoot death glares over the seat for is when the kid acts out and the parent does nothing. Kids act out because they don't know any better. The parent has no such excuse.
 
2013-08-21 11:16:55 PM  
If a crying baby is a problem for you on an airplane in this day and age you are an idiot. There are a million ways to keep yourself isolated, be prepared next time.
 
2013-08-21 11:19:28 PM  

TsukasaK: Mambo Bananapatch: Is there anything you liberal douchebags don't hate besides Abortion and the idiot in the oval?

Yknow, I think my "cheap insult" card is about due for an update. You're next.


Ok, I'll forward it along to BGates.
 
2013-08-21 11:20:10 PM  

jst3p: If a crying baby is a problem for you on an airplane in this day and age you are an idiot. There are a million ways to keep yourself isolated, be prepared next time.


If other your child's behavior is a problem for you on an airplane in this day and age you are an idiot. There are a million ways to keep a child occupied, be prepared next time.
 
2013-08-21 11:20:23 PM  

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The cheaper solution


This is the answer to all flying ever it's first class no matter where you are.

I did that once and on an 8 hour flight and slept through an "emergency" landing.  Sure if it was an actual emergency I may not have fared well but my sanity is a good risk/reward option.
 
2013-08-21 11:25:34 PM  

TsukasaK: jst3p: If a crying baby is a problem for you on an airplane in this day and age you are an idiot. There are a million ways to keep yourself isolated, be prepared next time.

If other your child's behavior is a problem for you on an airplane in this day and age you are an idiot. There are a million ways to keep a child occupied, be prepared next time.


A crying baby isn't a problem that can always be fixed on an airplane. Your comparison is invalid.
 
2013-08-21 11:29:34 PM  
To all the self-righteous child haters douche-ing up this thread:

Thank you for keeping your douchey self-righteous DNA out of the human gene pool. Evolution is grateful.
 
2013-08-21 11:29:46 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Flying with my 2 year old and 4 year old tomorrow. Suck it, childless happy people!


Honestly, children on flights do not bother me. When you're two and you're screaming and you can't sit still- I forgive you because you're a two year old. I brought headphones on this flight for a reason (and honestly it is more because I don't want to have a 3 hour long chat with *every* weirdo who sits next to me than it is because some kid is screaming).

When you're 40 and you try to save the empty seat next to you (for no-one) or use all the bin space (I have sat down and found that someone decided to use their seat *and* my seat's under seat space (and then argued with them about why they need to move their bag out of my space)) or butt in front of me when I am in the boarding group ahead of you- I would pay money to get away these adults.
 
2013-08-21 11:33:00 PM  
Compared to liquor stores, nightclubs and beer joints, this is a pretty mediocre accomplishment.
 
2013-08-21 11:35:30 PM  
Excuuuuse me for having kids and continuing the human race.

If I could check them at the gate or put them in overhead I would.
 
2013-08-21 11:38:10 PM  
A psychiatrist was explaining to me yesterday that for a child, who is physically unable to regulate his own emotions, flying on an aircraft is like being on a very bad acid trip.
 
2013-08-21 11:44:40 PM  

dopekitty74: AliceBToklasLives: Kids are annoying on the plane, but everyone who complains about air travel ought to take one long-distance Greyhound trip. For perspective.

I've taken more than one, and yeah, it's hell. I'd rather take the train, takes just as long, but better society better meals, better bathrooms.

/was a couple of days ahead of the dude that got beheaded on the alberta to manitoba run in 2008. My ex, who i was traveling with at the time had worked with the victim all summer.


Holy freaking poop. I still use that case in my lectures on the insanity defence. I bet that caused y'all a nightmare or two.
 
2013-08-21 11:48:09 PM  

profplump: I'm all for quiet spaces, but could we please admit that the difference between "child free" and "jew free" is all but non-existant

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BGates: Is there anything you liberal douchebags don't hate besides Abortion and the idiot in the oval?


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2013-08-21 11:50:46 PM  
Yawn.  Kids under 12 are quite a ways down my list of most annoying airline passengers to be around.  Let's worry about the 12-and-under kids after we find a way to get rid of the teenagers, self-righteous adult douchebags, stinky people, fat people, and sleepy people who think my shoulder is a pillow.
 
2013-08-21 11:50:59 PM  

solitary: A psychiatrist was explaining to me yesterday that for a child, who is physically unable to regulate his own emotions, flying on an aircraft is like being on a very bad acid trip.


haha
 
2013-08-21 11:51:06 PM  

theflatline: I was in an another thread today and some people were lambasting me because I suggested that the reason kids are so bad today is because Dr. Spock virtually ruined generations of children because of his hugs and not punishment leanings.

I do not have an onion in my belt, but I can tell you this, my mother could look at me and I would stop whatever I was doing wrong.

A little swat or a grounding never hurt anyone.  Kids today get a timeout.  OR their iphones taken away for a day.  They know there are no consequences to their actions.

My sister in law has 3 year old who runs around batshiat crazy all the time.  Because the child has no schedule, eats when he feels like it, and instead of an afternoon nap they let him run around until he passes out about 5, sleeps to 8, wakes up and runs around til 1 am.    Instead of putting on a schedule, they just give him whatever he wants.

My other sis in law had a baby, and of course the new baby got all the attention so the three year decided he wanted the attention, so he asked his mother to give him a bottle because he was a baby too.  So she did.

I walked into the room with a diaper and said "Santiago, come here, since you are a baby now, i have to put this pamper on you." he says"tio i am a big boy, i wear big boy underwear" I said "no, you are baby who drinks a bottle, so if you want the bottle, you have to wear the diaper."  He decided not to drink the bottle.

My sis in law lit into like I had just committed a hate crime.  But yet when he acts up she calls me because I am the only one he will listen to.


We had a friend like that. Single mom, 4 kids ages 14, 8, 6, and 3.

The 3yo was tapping the titties until such time as mom started taking anti malarial drugs in preparation for a trip to Africa. And he still slept with mom.

The 6yo is going to show
Tort chipsup as a serial killer or something. Rage control issues. He also won't eat anything but pork and rice and demands that mom feed him by hand. She does.

The 9yo is relatively sane. Likes anime.

The 14yo will end up in a gang, a teenage father, or both. Mom treats him like a replacement husband,but without any weird incestuous stuff. At least I hope not.

We tried to help, she didn't want actual help, she just wanted to be the helpless victim pity party
 
2013-08-21 11:51:10 PM  
I forget sometimes that fully grown adults are capable of being such whiners. Soft as marshmallows.

Yes, babies cry. The sun is also hot. Winter is often cold. Sometimes, life is uncomfortable.

I'd rather have to put up with babies crying than adults crying.
 
2013-08-21 11:51:41 PM  

TsukasaK: profplump: I'm all for quiet spaces, but could we please admit that the difference between "child free" and "jew free" is all but non-existant
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BGates: Is there anything you liberal douchebags don't hate besides Abortion and the idiot in the oval?

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OK, that was a good post.
 
2013-08-21 11:52:19 PM  

scotchcrotch: Excuuuuse me for having kids and continuing the human race.

If I could check them at the gate or put them in overhead I would.


Make your kids suffer through long road trips......it's what I had to do when I was a kid.  Do you know how long it takes to go from Dallas to Washington State in a '78 Volkswagon Westfalia?

/It builds character.
//At least that's what my Dad told me.
///And I'm quite a character.
 
nbt
2013-08-21 11:52:37 PM  
Hmph.  I'd rather listen to little babies than sit with big babies.  You were an anklebiter yourself, once.
 
2013-08-21 11:55:14 PM  

skobot: I'd rather have to put up with babies crying than adults crying.


scotchcrotch: Excuuuuse me for having kids and continuing the human race.


jst3p: If a crying baby is a problem for you on an airplane in this day and age you are an idiot. There are a million ways to keep yourself isolated, be prepared next time.


AspectRatio: To all the self-righteous child haters douche-ing up this thread: Thank you for keeping your douchey self-righteous DNA out of the human gene pool. Evolution is grateful.


I think that's all the self-righteous breeder comments so far.
Oh, my bad, I thought we were playing "Stupid Generalizations and Insults". You can see how I'd get confused.
 
2013-08-21 11:55:58 PM  

AspectRatio: To all the self-righteous child haters douche-ing up this thread:

Thank you for keeping your douchey self-righteous DNA out of the human gene pool. Evolution is grateful.



U mad bro?
 
2013-08-22 12:01:55 AM  
Usually airlines discriminate based on money, but I'm all for them discriminating against Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards, so let's get a Belgian-free zone as well.
 
2013-08-22 12:02:36 AM  

TsukasaK: I think that's all the self-righteous breeder comments so far.


Cry me a river, just don't do it near me, it upsets me to hear crying so much that I have to complain on the internet to a bunch of strangers about it.
 
2013-08-22 12:03:31 AM  

jst3p: Cry me a river, just don't do it near me, it upsets me to hear crying so much that I have to complain on the internet to a bunch of strangers about it.


Dude this post.

Is so meta, even this acronym.
 
2013-08-22 12:04:45 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: jaylectricity: Revel in the humor of a 4-year-old sitting down in the middle of a supermarket aisle because the pasta looked at her funny.

Okay, but I'll be shooting her guardian death through my eyeballs the entire time they allow their child to act up.


Yeah...you would do that.
 
2013-08-22 12:15:08 AM  

jst3p: TsukasaK: I think that's all the self-righteous breeder comments so far.

Cry me a river, just don't do it near me, it upsets me to hear crying so much that I have to complain on the internet to a bunch of strangers about it.


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