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2013-08-21 07:23:46 PM
As awesome as the child-free part is, I've flown in one of Singapore's 35" wide business class seats (which sounds similar to what they're offering except not lay-flat), and it's bordering on opulent.
 
2013-08-21 07:43:48 PM
So, another type of business class, basically
 
2013-08-21 08:15:35 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: So, another type of business class, basically


If it's $18 more than economy class, it should be called the "sold out already" class, otherwise yes, new type of business class. The article doesn't say which class the additional cost applies to.
 
2013-08-21 08:40:44 PM
Yes, because being in the seat in front of an obnoxious little bastard is so much better than being in the seat next to one.  There's no cure for it.  Unless they start having adults-only flights, the little screamers are going to disturb the rest of us no matter what.

That said, I'd pay the extra for the positively palatial 35" seat.
 
2013-08-21 09:02:03 PM
Anything to get you to pay a few extra bucks subby....so yeah I guess it is like religion.
 
2013-08-21 09:14:43 PM
Flying with my 2 year old and 4 year old tomorrow. Suck it, childless happy people!
 
2013-08-21 09:17:47 PM
I'd prefer "child free" airlines, cities, cruise ships, and shopping centers.
 
2013-08-21 09:19:30 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Flying with my 2 year old and 4 year old tomorrow. Suck it, childless happy people!


In case you hadn't heard, having children is also volunteering to either drive everyplace for the next decade or paying for a sitter.  This also means you have to leave them at home when you go out to eat or go see any movie that doesn't star a talking mouse.

The rest of the world calls this type of behavior "manners"....
 
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2013-08-21 09:21:57 PM
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2013-08-21 10:01:02 PM
Why don't they charge a "noise surcharge" to the kids instead?
 
2013-08-21 10:05:27 PM
How about a Fattie-Free zone?

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-08-21 10:06:05 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: There's no cure for it.  Unless they start having adults-only flights, the little screamers are going to disturb the rest of us no matter what.


LordZorch: I'd prefer "child free" airlines, cities, cruise ships, and shopping centers.


unlikely: Why don't they charge a "noise surcharge" to the kids instead?


These
 
2013-08-21 10:06:09 PM

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Just remember to crush up the Xanax really well, otherwise it doesn't mix well w/ their apple juice.
 
2013-08-21 10:08:10 PM

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Yeah, but its hard to sneak those into a stranger's kid's sippy cup without being noticed.
 
2013-08-21 10:09:44 PM

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Yeah, but its it's hard to sneak those into a stranger's kid's sippy cup without being noticed.


/FTFM
//Trocadero beat me to it.
 
2013-08-21 10:09:44 PM
Oh thank the lord. And thank the controller that ok'd this project's budget.

/United 1k
//Mon - Wed on the road for the next few months
 
2013-08-21 10:10:53 PM

LordZorch: Peter von Nostrand: Flying with my 2 year old and 4 year old tomorrow. Suck it, childless happy people!

In case you hadn't heard, having children is also volunteering to either drive everyplace for the next decade or paying for a sitter.  This also means you have to leave them at home when you go out to eat or go see any movie that doesn't star a talking mouse.

The rest of the world calls this type of behavior "manners"....


If only that were true . . .
 
2013-08-21 10:12:19 PM
Why are these only $18 more? I'd probably pitch in an extra $100 for that seat.
 
2013-08-21 10:13:52 PM

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Just remember to crush up the Xanax really well, otherwise it doesn't mix well w/ their apple juice.


ROFL.
 
2013-08-21 10:14:51 PM

Arsten: Why are these only $18 more? I'd probably pitch in an extra $100 for that seat.


Me too. Sounds fabulous.
 
2013-08-21 10:18:27 PM
Too bad the airlines are gonna use that bad boy to charge you and extra 35 US for a seat NOT in the baby section.

farking ripoff airlines at their finest!
 
2013-08-21 10:19:20 PM
Kids are annoying on the plane, but everyone who complains about air travel ought to take one long-distance Greyhound trip. For perspective.
 
2013-08-21 10:21:31 PM
They should have a "shiatty parent free" area. The only time kids are a pain to others is when crappy parents let them. And yes, I'm a parent.
 
2013-08-21 10:21:39 PM
I was in an another thread today and some people were lambasting me because I suggested that the reason kids are so bad today is because Dr. Spock virtually ruined generations of children because of his hugs and not punishment leanings.

I do not have an onion in my belt, but I can tell you this, my mother could look at me and I would stop whatever I was doing wrong.

A little swat or a grounding never hurt anyone.  Kids today get a timeout.  OR their iphones taken away for a day.  They know there are no consequences to their actions.

My sister in law has 3 year old who runs around batshiat crazy all the time.  Because the child has no schedule, eats when he feels like it, and instead of an afternoon nap they let him run around until he passes out about 5, sleeps to 8, wakes up and runs around til 1 am.    Instead of putting on a schedule, they just give him whatever he wants.

My other sis in law had a baby, and of course the new baby got all the attention so the three year decided he wanted the attention, so he asked his mother to give him a bottle because he was a baby too.  So she did.

I walked into the room with a diaper and said "Santiago, come here, since you are a baby now, i have to put this pamper on you." he says"tio i am a big boy, i wear big boy underwear" I said "no, you are baby who drinks a bottle, so if you want the bottle, you have to wear the diaper."  He decided not to drink the bottle.

My sis in law lit into like I had just committed a hate crime.  But yet when he acts up she calls me because I am the only one he will listen to.
 
2013-08-21 10:22:25 PM
A few tweaks to the rules should allow unruly children to ride in a pressurized hold.
 
2013-08-21 10:22:39 PM
Nine out of ten Catholic priests agree they'd prefer to remain in coach with the kiddies.
 
2013-08-21 10:23:26 PM
Oh hai, is this the thread where we all whine about something that every single one of us once was? Get over yourselves, you bunch of princesses.

/ear plugs, look into them
//you people should be thanking everybody who brings a kid on the plane. We parents pay damned-near the same price for the kid's ticket that you do, but kids (and kids' baggage) don't weigh close to what grownups and their baggage do -- which means less fuel burned. Every kid on the plane is subsidizing your fat ass and your overstuffed suitcase.
///I go out of my way to try and keep my kid quiet, stop him irritating other passengers, etc., and in my experience so do most parents.
////And I know for damned skippy that every one of you complaining did the same things kids today do, when you were a kid and traveled, at least if you ever flew. Probably more because you didn't have as much entertainment.
 
2013-08-21 10:23:55 PM

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Your idea only helps ONE person.

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This is the more PRACTICAL solution.
 
2013-08-21 10:24:52 PM
We flew from Toronto to Seoul when our son was two years old. He slept most of the time and was perfectly well-behaved the rest of the time. As we were descending -- almost 14 hours later -- his ears hurt and he cried. I heard a guy somewhere behind us complaining about people who take kids on planes.

I think about that guy every time I hear somebody whimpering about a kid on a plane.
 
2013-08-21 10:25:17 PM

LordZorch: Peter von Nostrand: Flying with my 2 year old and 4 year old tomorrow. Suck it, childless happy people!

In case you hadn't heard, having children is also volunteering to either drive everyplace for the next decade or paying for a sitter.  This also means you have to leave them at home when you go out to eat or go see any movie that doesn't star a talking mouse.

The rest of the world calls this type of behavior "manners"....


No. No it's not
 
2013-08-21 10:25:19 PM
"In addition being "child free," this special cabin comes with 35-inch wide seats and 4 more inches of leg room than economy class, notes The Telegraph."

Pics or it didn't happen. 35" is 3 seats in cattle class!

/I'm calling preemptive bullsh*t anyway. Even if there are pics.
 
2013-08-21 10:25:37 PM
God forbid and of you act like adults.
 
2013-08-21 10:25:49 PM
Can I demand "drunk-free", "fat-free", "snore-free", "a**hole-free" zones as well?  Because I never have nearly as much of a problem with kids as I do the adults.
 
2013-08-21 10:26:56 PM

theflatline: I do not have an onion in my belt, but I can tell you this, my mother could look at me and I would stop whatever I was doing wrong.


Funny, I don't have an onion in my belt either, but she let me do whatever I wanted.
 
2013-08-21 10:30:36 PM
This is 'opposing views'.   They pretty much make shiat up.

There probably is no Maylaysian Airline, nor kid free zones.   Kuala Lumpur  ?
 
2013-08-21 10:31:44 PM
I'm all for quiet spaces, but could we please admit that the difference between "child free" and "jew free" is all but non-existant, and that if we weren't already okay with discriminating on the basis of age this sort of policy would be considered outrageous?

As a group children might well be nosier than older people. But like any other group it's made up of individual human beings and it's inherently unjust to make judgements about individuals (or apply rules, etc.) based on generalizations concerning the group, even if those generalizations are true.
 
2013-08-21 10:32:11 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Kids are annoying on the plane, but everyone who complains about air travel ought to take one long-distance Greyhound trip. For perspective.


No, I have money.
 
2013-08-21 10:33:40 PM

neilbradley: They should have a "shiatty parent free" area. The only time kids are a pain to others is when crappy parents let them. And yes, I'm a parent.


This.

I'm not a parent. But evaluation does not require participation.
 
2013-08-21 10:33:45 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes, because being in the seat in front of an obnoxious little bastard is so much better than being in the seat next to one.  There's no cure for it.  Unless they start having adults-only flights, the little screamers are going to disturb the rest of us no matter what.

That said, I'd pay the extra for the positively palatial 35" seat.


I would pay extra for adult only flights.
 
2013-08-21 10:34:16 PM

gweilo8888: Oh hai, is this the thread where we all whine about something that every single one of us once was? Get over yourselves, you bunch of princesses.

/ear plugs, look into them
//you people should be thanking everybody who brings a kid on the plane. We parents pay damned-near the same price for the kid's ticket that you do, but kids (and kids' baggage) don't weigh close to what grownups and their baggage do -- which means less fuel burned. Every kid on the plane is subsidizing your fat ass and your overstuffed suitcase.
///I go out of my way to try and keep my kid quiet, stop him irritating other passengers, etc., and in my experience so do most parents.
////And I know for damned skippy that every one of you complaining did the same things kids today do, when you were a kid and traveled, at least if you ever flew. Probably more because you didn't have as much entertainment.


Not fat, nor do I carry tons of luggage, and I travel frequently.

At 43 I remember the 70s,80s, 90s, quite well, and kids were better behaved then, and parents had a better idea on how to control them.

I understand that babies cry and vomit but it seems like age 4 to 10 these days on flights just run roughshod over their parents.

So why should the good of the few outweigh the good of the many.

I see plenty of mothers on planes with unruly kids who do nothing about it.    These are the same folk who think it is ok to roll out of bed, not  shower, and wear pjs on the airplane with flip flops.
 
2013-08-21 10:38:01 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Kids are annoying on the plane, but everyone who complains about air travel ought to take one long-distance Greyhound trip. For perspective.


I've taken more than one, and yeah, it's hell. I'd rather take the train, takes just as long, but better society better meals, better bathrooms.

/was a couple of days ahead of the dude that got beheaded on the alberta to manitoba run in 2008. My ex, who i was traveling with at the time had worked with the victim all summer.
 
2013-08-21 10:38:45 PM
if the cargo area is safe for pets, it should be safe enough for kids
 
2013-08-21 10:38:48 PM

Tax Boy: How about a Fattie-Free zone?

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Alternate fatties with little kids. It's a win-win.

OoO OoO
 
2013-08-21 10:39:05 PM
and promply disappears in a puff of logic...
 
2013-08-21 10:39:44 PM

profplump: I'm all for quiet spaces, but could we please admit that the difference between "child free" and "jew free" is all but non-existant, and that if we weren't already okay with discriminating on the basis of age this sort of policy would be considered outrageous?

As a group children might well be nosier than older people. But like any other group it's made up of individual human beings and it's inherently unjust to make judgements about individuals (or apply rules, etc.) based on generalizations concerning the group, even if those generalizations are true.


Yes, but on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, the pirates didn't -eat- the children.
 
2013-08-21 10:41:08 PM
How about rules that apply to everyone?   I've had adults sitting near me that were ten times more annoying than any infant or toddler.
 
2013-08-21 10:41:31 PM
Bratty kids on airplanes are annoying, but so are adults who don't wear deodorant, have bad breath, and talk too much.
 
2013-08-21 10:43:36 PM

Lorelle: Bratty kids on airplanes are annoying, but so are adults who don't wear deodorant, have bad breath, and talk too much.


see my post about pajama pants and flip flops.
 
2013-08-21 10:44:45 PM
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Plus, you'd have an open bottle of booze.
 
2013-08-21 10:44:50 PM

profplump: I'm all for quiet spaces, but could we please admit that the difference between "child free" and "jew free" is all but non-existant, and that if we weren't already okay with discriminating on the basis of age this sort of policy would be considered outrageous?

As a group children might well be nosier than older people. But like any other group it's made up of individual human beings and it's inherently unjust to make judgements about individuals (or apply rules, etc.) based on generalizations concerning the group, even if those generalizations are true.


Hear, hear.

Exactly as you say.  Children should be allowed to vote, drink alcohol, drive (when not intoxicated from that alcohol), buy tobacco products, and hold jobs requiring heavy manual labor.  It is blatant bigotry to hold them down.  I blame it all on their lack of a strong lobby in D.C. and the state capitals.
 
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