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2013-08-21 06:54:19 PM  
5 votes:
I loved the 90's.

The 80's sucked.  My dad was laid off for most of the decade, we were dirt poor.  The 90's saw all that turn around.

It's purely anecdotal, but I've found that people that loved the 80's also love Saint Ronald Reagan.
2013-08-21 09:45:14 PM  
4 votes:

NFA: 1980's -  Worked my ass off every single day of the week, used and abused by employers who thought I was a slave and not an employee, literally couldn't afford to eat every day and rarely ate three meals a day
1990's -  BIG up swing in prosperity.  Got married, bought a house.  Nice balance between work and life
2000's -  Marriage going great, life was good, became a millionaire. Inherited a kid. Worked too damn much.
2010's -  Marriage still going good, became a multimillionaire.  Work my ass off every single day dealing with the problems of others.  Don't eat every meal, sometimes skip days eating because of too much work and health problems.   Dream of retiring every single day.


You're on the high score list, man. You don't have to keep playing until your quarter's used up.
2013-08-21 09:35:38 PM  
4 votes:

NFA: 1980's -  Worked my ass off every single day of the week, used and abused by employers who thought I was a slave and not an employee, literally couldn't afford to eat every day and rarely ate three meals a day
1990's -  BIG up swing in prosperity.  Got married, bought a house.  Nice balance between work and life
2000's -  Marriage going great, life was good, became a millionaire. Inherited a kid. Worked too damn much.
2010's -  Marriage still going good, became a multimillionaire.  Work my ass off every single day dealing with the problems of others.  Don't eat every meal, sometimes skip days eating because of too much work and health problems.  Dream of retiring every single day.


Hey, guess what?  If you're actually a multimillionaire you can retire right now today.
2013-08-21 07:16:30 PM  
4 votes:
The 90s were good times.  I guess the old racists don't care for them because they marked when hip-hop/rap culture really became mainstream, but there was plenty of good stuff going on.  History will remember Bill Clinton has one of our best Presidents ever.
2013-08-21 08:01:11 PM  
3 votes:
It's because GenX came of age during the 90's, and there are less of us than any other generation.  That's it.  That explains it.

The 90's were farking awesome.  Unlike the 80's, bush trimming was in, and unlike the aughts, women didn't present themselves like 10 year olds in the pubic hair department.

Plus, we had the best alternative music scene by far.
2013-08-22 06:59:16 AM  
2 votes:
 Inexplicably the 1990s-objectively speaking the best decade-not only underperformed the overrated 1950s and 1960s

imgs.xkcd.com
2013-08-21 11:10:23 PM  
2 votes:

bhcompy: TuteTibiImperes: All in all Clinton's scorecard is pretty dang good.

Depends on how you look at not stepping in front of globalization, really.  Like I said earlier in the thread, he was the perfect steward.  He didn't do much but keep out of the way, but just like meddling that doesn't always produce the best results.  The economic impacts of a president are felt for years after they leave.  Reagan's actions(and Bush Sr) helped Clinton, Clinton's actions hurt Jr, and Jr's actions hurt Obama


Globalization was a freight train that stepping in front of wouldn't have helped too much.  Not that you'd expect much 'stepping' from Third Way Clinton or his Board of Directors at Walmart wife.  We were able to keep up our classical Hamiltonian protectionism up through the 1960s.  The third world was barely out of colonial bondage. Europe was wrecked. The container ship (and later fibre-optic cable) wasn't a thing.  And the US had everything it needed, really.  Enough food, enough water, enough labor, and, importantly, enough energy. Nothing we imported pre-60s (tea or bananas) was nearly so core to the economy. Once cheap Texas crude starting dwindling around 1970, we, for the first time,  had to trade. Globalization starts from that point.
2013-08-21 10:31:32 PM  
2 votes:
The 70's had this...which  seems like a good thing

www.lifelounge.com.au
2013-08-21 09:49:55 PM  
2 votes:
Nobody is allowed to say this on air, but Bill Clinton was a more popular president than Reagan.


sas-origin.onstreammedia.com
2013-08-21 09:42:53 PM  
2 votes:

NFA: 1980's -  Worked my ass off every single day of the week, used and abused by employers who thought I was a slave and not an employee, literally couldn't afford to eat every day and rarely ate three meals a day
1990's -  BIG up swing in prosperity.  Got married, bought a house.  Nice balance between work and life
2000's -  Marriage going great, life was good, became a millionaire. Inherited a kid. Worked too damn much.
2010's -  Marriage still going good, became a multimillionaire.  Work my ass off every single day dealing with the problems of others.  Don't eat every meal, sometimes skip days eating because of too much work and health problems.  Dream of retiring every single day.


2013 - posted bullshiat fantasy life on Fark.com.
2013-08-21 08:01:23 PM  
2 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: The 90s were good times.  I guess the old racists don't care for them because they marked when hip-hop/rap culture really became mainstream, but there was plenty of good stuff going on.   History will remember Bill Clinton has one of our best Presidents ever.


Except for that whole "create a bubble that will implode the entire economy" thing.
2013-08-21 07:38:46 PM  
2 votes:
So people tend to want to return to the relatively carefree days of their early 20s.  Huh.
2013-08-21 06:28:25 PM  
2 votes:
tag being for submitter, obviously. The 80's sucked.
2013-08-22 03:13:20 PM  
1 votes:

Loreweaver: However, the gangster rap that followed is utter tripe that should never have seen the light of day.


Really, the question is, what do you consider gangster rap?  Rap can be categorized so many different ways. Early East coast (BDP/KRS-One after Scott la Rock died, Public Enemy, EPMD, Third Bass, ect.).  Early West Coast (NWA, followed by Ice-Cube and Doctor Dre, Ice-T, Snoop, ect.) Then you have the Biggie and Tupac era just after that all of which could be considered gangster and most certainly was NOT tripe.  Then you had groups that were more hip hop but still rap like A Tribe Called Quest or De La Soul, also NOT tripe.  Then you have the Beasties who were a category all unto themselves, absolutely NOT tripe.  You could make the argument that by the time we got to WuTang, 50 Cent, ect. we were heading downhill in the quality department (although there were talented musicians in that group (Method Man, Redman, ect.)).  Painting a brush over all "gangster rap" as tripe paints you as an idiot.
2013-08-22 11:04:56 AM  
1 votes:
That's because 90s Nick flood bombed the results.

90s Nick in Everything was Better in the 90s
i43.tinypic.com
2013-08-22 08:36:18 AM  
1 votes:

AngryDragon: The fact that these two root causes of the financial collapse are not attributed to Clinton ever is disturbing.


Let's think about why that might be.

Do you know what the law was named that repealed the glass steagal act?

It was called the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.  Do you know who Gramm, Leach and Bliley were?  Well, they were the ones that wrote the bill, and they were all republicans.
2013-08-22 07:42:58 AM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: TuteTibiImperes: All in all Clinton's scorecard is pretty dang good.

Ummmm... No.

The destruction of the middle class was all set up under Clinton.

The financial crisis had it's roots in a couple of major blunders under Clinton.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 415x249]

Repealing Glass Steagall which allowed for the creation of "too big to jail" banks, and the Clinton administration forcing the head of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission to back down on her attempt to regulate derivatives.

In The Warning, veteran FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk unearths the hidden history of the nation's worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. At the center of it all he finds Brooksley Born, who speaks for the first time on television about her failed campaign to regulate the secretive, multitrillion-dollar derivatives market whose crash helped trigger the financial collapse in the fall of 2008.

Then, there was Clinton's role in passing the first of the free trade agreements that allowed the filthy rich to move the manufactuing jobs outside the United States without any sort of financial penalty when they brought the finished goods back inside the country.

It's no accident that Detroit has gone from the fourth largest city in the United States and one of the largest manufacturing centers in the world, to a burnt out, abandoned husk.

Clinton while signing the NAFTA bill stated: "...NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."

That was a lie that would come to play an enormous role in the destruction of the middle class.


When you say clinton in all of the above, don't you really mean the republican congress of the 90s?
2013-08-22 03:34:09 AM  
1 votes:
"It's just an inescapable truth that people feel nostalgic for their youth and think that whatever particular era they happened to grow up in was the best time to be had in all of history.  My mom was always keen for the fifties, which she remembers as a time of decency and stability, a land of Ozzie & Harriet wholesomeness.  My uncle, a few years younger, will never stop reminiscing about the sixties and the freewheeling hippie lifestyle he briefly embraced -- it was all about weed and the Beatles, I would judge from his rambling stories.  A certain coworker of mine pines for the decadent seventies in New York City, and makes veiled references to hedonistic times he enjoyed in the Disco Era.  And we all know some people who yearn for the electric-blue eighties or the grungy nineties...

...misguided sentimentality, I tell you.  Everyone only remembers the good parts of their vanished salad days, clinging to pop culture artifacts and hazy impressions of national unity or youthful abandon.  But I suppose I am no different, because just like them, I'm convinced that my youth occurred in the greatest time in human history -- the Millennial Era.  Oh, what a decade.  It was initially defined by the earthshattering events of September 11th, which we watched as wide-eyed children.  I can still remember the thrill of that day, the incredible spectacle of destruction, and the air of excitement as we hoped for more attacks to disrupt the monotony of life, wig out the adults -- and maybe get us out of school for another week.  No puny Woodstock concert or piddling Watergate scandal can ever match the importance and the sheer awesomeness of 9-11, that is indisputable...

...and that was just the opening trumpet blast of a decade that charged out of the gates like a juggernaut.  Another significant terrorist attack never materialized, but Hurrican Katrina was almost as compelling -- remember the Superdome footage and all those drowning black people?  Glorious.  In the Millennial Age, we were still blessed with a cool tough guy as our President, a man who made you feel good about America as we were blowing up terrorists and taking over countries like a farking boss.  The economy was pumping full throttle and the roads were dominated by giant Hummers and Escalades, where the heck have those all gone?  Music?  Rock and roll evolved past its questionable beginnings and reached a zenith of pure kick-assedness in the form of Korn and Limp Bizkit; classic anthems such as "Freak on a Leash" and "Nookie" were the soundtrack to a nation proudly moshing into the unlimited future.  So many other great things to mention, I could go one forever.  Pokemon.  The Matrix sequels.  The Star Wars prequels!  Survivor and American Idol.  Britney and Backstreet, Xtina and N*sync.  50 Cent.  Ritalin and Adderall.  The Saw movies.  MySpace.  iPods.  The Nintendo Wii.  And it all led up to the coolest pop culture event in history -- the release of James Cameron's Avatar, unquestionably the greatest film ever made.  We all saw it, we all loved it, it redefined the possibilities of cinema for all time.  What a great closing note to an unstoppable decade.

Yes, I dare any of you fogies to make a case for your crappy youths.  I'm sorry, but you were mere precursors to the Millennial Age, a triumphant time that can never be matched.  And to the kids coming up now in this new decade -- sorry, f**gots, but the real party is over and you're just gonna have to fight over our scraps."
2013-08-22 03:20:02 AM  
1 votes:
Choosing one decade over another is always a futile, tragic gesture. Face it, you people ruin everything you touch.
2013-08-22 02:52:24 AM  
1 votes:

bifford: The only thing that sucked about the 90s were the comic books.  Terrible art and writing (the writing is still terrible, but the art has now gotten better).


The superhero stuff may have been a mess (multiple cover variants, holograms and other gimmicks, killing Superman, Bane vs Batman and the aftermath, etc) but the 90s gave us a LOT of Vertigo goodness:

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

(yes, I know both of those started in the late 80s, but the bulk of their runs were in the 90s)

upload.wikimedia.org

1997-2002

dietrichthrall.files.wordpress.com

1995

i43.tinypic.com
1991

www.dccomics.com

1990

upload.wikimedia.org
1991 to 1997
2013-08-22 01:10:38 AM  
1 votes:

vygramul: AliceBToklasLives: vygramul: '80s, you say?

[userserve-ak.last.fm image 500x500]

1968 - Saucerful of Secrets

1973 - Dark Side of the Moon
1977 - Animals
1979 - The Wall

1987 - A Momentary Lapse of Reason

/what was that about the 80s?

Whoops - that was the movie that hit the '80s. Then again, The Final Cut was in the '80s.

But then there was:

The Clash: London Calling
U2: The Joshua Tree
The Police: Synchronicity
AC/DC: Back in Black



userserve-ak.last.fm

/first album I ever owned. Remember just sitting in my room, playing it over and over, just mesmerized.
2013-08-22 01:03:38 AM  
1 votes:
Take the '90s and shove them up your balls.
2013-08-22 12:33:33 AM  
1 votes:
images.wikia.com
2013-08-21 11:26:07 PM  
1 votes:

djkutch: Could you eviscerate the Bush Administration for the Patriot Act? XXXOOO


It's been done.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
2013-08-21 11:19:33 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: NAFTA isn't the demon of job outsourcing.


I've said for a while... NAFTA could have been one thing.  Look, Mexico's problems are our problems. Geography makes it so.  If we had stuck with NAFTA as a decades-long project to raise living standards in Mexico through free trade and eventual evening out of things like workers' rights and social safety net? That could have been huge. And possible.

Instead, after five years of maquiladoras, Mexicans wanted the next rung on the ladder up. The big companies got greedy. They said, "hey this cheap labor is great... how about we move to China where the wages are even lower and the officials are even more bribeable?"

A rising tide may lift all boats.  But you need one hell of a tide to raise 2.5 billion boats in China and India.  It become less 'normalizing to the US standard of living' and more 'normalizing to the Chinese standard of living'.
2013-08-21 10:41:08 PM  
1 votes:

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: The best decade in history is the decade between whenever you turned six and whenever you turned sixteen.


I have thanked God several times that me and my shy, reclusive, trenchcoat-wearing, Anarchist cookbook reading, hyper-cynical (and, no, entirely harmless) friends all graduated high school in the 3-4 years before Columbine, not the years since.
2013-08-21 10:40:24 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: All in all Clinton's scorecard is pretty dang good.


Ummmm... No.

The destruction of the middle class was all set up under Clinton.

The financial crisis had it's roots in a couple of major blunders under Clinton.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

Repealing Glass Steagall which allowed for the creation of "too big to jail" banks, and the Clinton administration forcing the head of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission to back down on her attempt to regulate derivatives.

In The Warning, veteran FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk unearths the hidden history of the nation's worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. At the center of it all he finds Brooksley Born, who speaks for the first time on television about her failed campaign to regulate the secretive, multitrillion-dollar derivatives market whose crash helped trigger the financial collapse in the fall of 2008.

Then, there was Clinton's role in passing the first of the free trade agreements that allowed the filthy rich to move the manufactuing jobs outside the United States without any sort of financial penalty when they brought the finished goods back inside the country.

It's no accident that Detroit has gone from the fourth largest city in the United States and one of the largest manufacturing centers in the world, to a burnt out, abandoned husk.

Clinton while signing the NAFTA bill stated: "...NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."

That was a lie that would come to play an enormous role in the destruction of the middle class.
2013-08-21 10:32:19 PM  
1 votes:
Let me simplify this for everyone here. The best decade in history is the decade between whenever you turned six and whenever you turned sixteen.

/For me, that was the Sixties.
2013-08-21 10:15:59 PM  
1 votes:

Mentat: NewWorldDan: I refer to the 90s as the great depression.  Everyone was on Prozac, listened to Nirvana, and wore flannel shirts.  Complete opposite of the 80s.  Fear of nuclear war and AIDS caused everyone to start a decade long party.  It started the modern gay rights movement when a lot of confused young men turned on MTV and saw rock stars that were prettier than their girlfriends.  Although those rock stars were really just emulating Freddie Mercury and Queen from the mid 70s.  The 80s were a really strange decade that can't be understood if you didn't live through it.  I'm still a little confused about it, really.

There was an amazing level of creativity in the 80's that hasn't been matched since.


I'll buy the creativity angle only if you look waaay outside the mainstream musical genres. That stuff matured and became the soundtrack of the early to mid '90s, past that too, if you're willing to look for it. That shiat's mostly all gone now, way too difficult to recoup an investment in any recordings that sound worth a damn.

Only a couple of big corporations own something like 90% of any decent sized venues, so touring - unless you're corporate-approved - is ten times harder and more likely to fail. It is sad, really.
2013-08-21 10:04:43 PM  
1 votes:
I'd jump on the 90s, if for no other reason than the tech boom.

Let me explain this to the youths.  Back in this mystical era around 1996, people actually got paid solid cash for putting things in HTML.  No, no.. I'm not talking about Ruby on Rails, six jQuery frameworks, and 300 CSS templates for a half-hearted handjob, like today.  I'm talking about "A HREF", "BLINK", "TABLE TR TD", resizing GIFs, and uploading them paid actual money.  Things we expect competent first graders to do today.  If you could string together 50 lines of C or Perl, you were a demigod.
2013-08-21 10:02:27 PM  
1 votes:
Oh man...

Look at all those old farts in their retirement homes wishing they could travel back to the 1950's.

Die already!
2013-08-21 09:55:00 PM  
1 votes:
The 80's were fantastic. The music, the movies everything. Even the 90's were good. It's the first decade of the 2000's that REALLY sucked.
2013-08-21 09:51:36 PM  
1 votes:
TuteTibiImperes [TotalFark]
2013-08-21 07:16:30 PM


The 90s were good times. I guess the old racists don't care for them because they marked when hip-hop/rap culture really became mainstream, but there was plenty of good stuff going on. History will remember Bill Clinton has one of our best Presidents ever.

* Don't ask don't tell
* Defense of Marriage Act
* Juanita Broaddrick
* White House FBI files controversy (found on clinton's desk)
* Attack of Yugoslavia (I know it's only wrong when bush attacks a nation w/o provocation)
* Waco (Hey it's ok to murder people whose religion you disagree with)
* Elián González
* Whitewater
* Commercegate
* Chinagate
* Bombing of Iraq (I know it's only wrong when bush does it)
* Cruise missile strikes on Afghanistan
* Cruise missile strikes on Sudan
* Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory bombing
* Refusal to accept osama bin ladin as a prisoner.


yeah... hell of a decade
* Gennifer Flowers
2013-08-21 09:48:29 PM  
1 votes:

AliceBToklasLives: vygramul: '80s, you say?

[userserve-ak.last.fm image 500x500]

1968 - Saucerful of Secrets

1973 - Dark Side of the Moon
1977 - Animals
1979 - The Wall

1987 - A Momentary Lapse of Reason

/what was that about the 80s?


Whoops - that was the movie that hit the '80s. Then again, The Final Cut was in the '80s.

But then there was:

The Clash: London Calling
U2: The Joshua Tree
The Police: Synchronicity
AC/DC: Back in Black

Then there were the movies:

Gandhi
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Empire Strikes Back
Das Boot
The Killing Fields
Ran
Aliens
Full Metal Jacket
The Right Stuff
Blade Runner
Die Hard
Grave of the Fireflies
Glory
Scarface
The Terminator
The Princess Bride
A Fish Called Wanda

The '80s had some damn fine entertainment.
2013-08-21 09:45:38 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: History will remember Bill Clinton has one of our best Presidents ever.


No.  He's no Washington, no Lincoln, no FDR, not even Eisenhower.  He'll be remembered as one of the best stewards ever, because he did a really great job of keeping his hands off things when the country was booming, but, at the same time, he signed in DOMA and Glass-Steagall repeals.
2013-08-21 09:40:22 PM  
1 votes:
The 90's were great. All that I learned in the 80's was how to stop shiatting myself and the alphabet. The 90's brought plenty of firsts. Jobs, girls, cars, and pretty much set me up for where I am now. And gas was ridiculously farking cheap.
2013-08-21 09:40:17 PM  
1 votes:
The best decade is always the next to come. People just don't realize it yet.
2013-08-21 09:31:40 PM  
1 votes:

vygramul: '80s, you say?

[userserve-ak.last.fm image 500x500]


1968 - Saucerful of Secrets

1973 - Dark Side of the Moon
1977 - Animals
1979 - The Wall

1987 - A Momentary Lapse of Reason

/what was that about the 80s?
2013-08-21 09:25:57 PM  
1 votes:
'80s, you say?

userserve-ak.last.fm
2013-08-21 09:24:22 PM  
1 votes:
topnews.in
Oh yeah, the 80's were totally radical, dude.
/born '82, almost got an un-screened blood transfusion
//got lucky, really lucky
///was in the preemie ward w/ a bunch of crack babies
2013-08-21 09:21:39 PM  
1 votes:
I've noticed that people who insist that the 80s were superior to the 90s are also inexplicably still really into Foreigner and Night Ranger.
2013-08-21 09:18:51 PM  
1 votes:

Shostie: Early 90s fashions were pretty atrocious, actually.


I really don't really remember there being any 90s fashions. I can recognize 60s, 70, 80s fashions but what defined 90s fashion? Flannel?
2013-08-21 09:00:09 PM  
1 votes:
The 90s were great, the internet was wild and crazy back then and those of us on it and "got it" were the pioneers. Good times!

Computers are much better these days, though.
2013-08-21 07:48:17 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: So people tend to want to return to the relatively carefree days of their early 20s.  Huh.


My early 20's saw 9/11 and the subsequent erosion of our civil rights, a war, and the late 20s saw a huge economic collapse.

I'll take the 90's over that.  The 2010-2020 could supplant that if things continue to get better.
2013-08-21 07:13:14 PM  
1 votes:
The80s sucked in the 80s and they suck now.
2013-08-21 07:03:38 PM  
1 votes:
As a guy who graduated college in 1990, the 80s were shiat. The 90s were superior in every way that mattered.
 
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