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(WFAA Fort Worth)   Coming back from the dead after coding and CPR is pretty common. Doing it on your own 45 minutes after doctors actually pronounce you deceased, and nurses are just cleaning up your corpse for family's sake, is pretty farking amazing   (wfaa.com) divider line 86
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2013-08-21 08:19:58 PM  
It has begun.
 
2013-08-21 08:27:08 PM  
This is why I leave the coding to younger folks.
 
2013-08-21 08:49:27 PM  
It is kinda interesting to hear all those angelic singing voices in your hear just fade away into the 'wah-wah-wah' sound of hitting your head way too hard.

also, don't try to stand up on a greenstick leg. trust me on this.
 
2013-08-21 08:50:06 PM  
They forgot to double tap.
 
2013-08-21 08:50:51 PM  
I think it's only common on TV.
 
2013-08-21 08:51:37 PM  
Pretty amazing. Good for him and his family, community and all..
 
2013-08-21 08:52:07 PM  
The only plausible answer: "That's some fine doctorin' y'all got there, Dr. Lou"
 
2013-08-21 08:52:12 PM  
Did he get Elvis' autograph?
 
2013-08-21 08:52:43 PM  
Hey, who farted?
 
2013-08-21 08:54:10 PM  
So begins the zombie apocalypse. I'll be cleaning my guns.
 
2013-08-21 08:54:30 PM  
"Nobody really has an explanation for it... medically, anyway,"

I do. The doctor farked up and pronounced him dead when he was actually still alive, Probably had a very faint heartbeat and shallow respiration.  It happens.
 
2013-08-21 08:55:03 PM  
"quick, kill this guy, he will make us look bad"
 
2013-08-21 08:55:34 PM  
Thats what they get for building the hospital on top of the old indian burial ground.
 
2013-08-21 08:57:25 PM  
Sounds legit
 
2013-08-21 08:59:31 PM  
Next time they need to cut his head off
 
2013-08-21 09:00:20 PM  
Good thing he wasn't an organ donor.
 
2013-08-21 09:00:26 PM  
I am suprised this has not showed up yet.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-21 09:01:21 PM  
He's from Ohio? If I were in his shoes, I'd rather stay dead.
 
2013-08-21 09:01:23 PM  
Miracle? No. Incompetent doctors and nurses? Probable.
 
2013-08-21 09:02:48 PM  
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Approves
 
2013-08-21 09:05:15 PM  
Must have been off-shore coding. Always fails.
 
2013-08-21 09:06:20 PM  

Creoena: Miracle? No. Incompetent doctors and nurses? Probable.


Incompetent? No. Over-worked and hurried? Probable.
 
2013-08-21 09:06:26 PM  

Creoena: Miracle? No. Incompetent doctors and nurses? Probable.

QFT
 
2013-08-21 09:06:48 PM  

RexTalionis: It has begun.


welp, time to get ready

/loads slugs..
 
2013-08-21 09:07:35 PM  
Double-tap.
 
2013-08-21 09:07:40 PM  
Get your 22's out zombies are a comming
 
2013-08-21 09:08:02 PM  

ReapTheChaos: I do. The doctor farked up and pronounced him dead when he was actually still alive, Probably had a very faint heartbeat and shallow respiration.  It happens.


No wai it was totally jesus why dont u belief what more proof could u need?
 
2013-08-21 09:08:36 PM  

No Time To Explain: RexTalionis: It has begun.

welp, time to get ready

/loads slugs..


*grabs lobo*
 
2013-08-21 09:08:55 PM  
Holy Jesus Christ, that hot piece of man meat is a stud.  I think I believe in God now, for keeping that beauty alive.
 
2013-08-21 09:09:51 PM  
Maybe in some third world country that lacks medical knowledge and technology like *click* Ohio?!
 
2013-08-21 09:13:12 PM  
He says he feels fine now.

What? He did.
 
2013-08-21 09:14:09 PM  

Fabric_Man: Creoena: Miracle? No. Incompetent doctors and nurses? Probable.

Incompetent? No. Over-worked and hurried? Probable.


Incompetent?  Yes.  Being overworked and hurried to the point that you suck at your job makes you incompetent.
 
2013-08-21 09:21:44 PM  
img.ffffound.com

Not your fault, doc.  Happens all the time.
 
2013-08-21 09:26:54 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-21 09:27:01 PM  
It's sometimes really hard to determine whether someone is alive. Old cemeteries are full of coffins with scratch marks on the inside of their lids because the body was presumed dead when they buried it.
 
2013-08-21 09:27:12 PM  
Must've been one Hell of a sponge bath.

www.costumesoul.com
 
2013-08-21 09:27:33 PM  

megarian: He says he feels fine now.

What? He did.


He's going to go for a walk.
 
2013-08-21 09:27:41 PM  
Allah says "you're welcome".
 
2013-08-21 09:27:55 PM  
While that is spiffy, the scary tag would have worked here too.
 
2013-08-21 09:28:56 PM  
Odd, but not unheard of. Crappy EKG machine, and they may have had him automatically paced, and he got one more jolt. As long as he was being perfused, he was good.

Two things make the heart stop beating. Electrical and plumbing. This was obviously electrical.
 
2013-08-21 09:31:08 PM  
yah I'm with reapthechaos on this one.
He was never dead.

What happens to your brain with no breathing ie oxygen after only a few minutes?

Or am I missing something?
Gawd knows I'm no doctor...
 
2013-08-21 09:32:24 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
oblig and hot
 
2013-08-21 09:34:52 PM  

RogermcAllen: Fabric_Man: Creoena: Miracle? No. Incompetent doctors and nurses? Probable.

Incompetent? No. Over-worked and hurried? Probable.

Incompetent?  Yes.  Being overworked and hurried to the point that you suck at your job makes you incompetent.


not to monday morning quarterback, but especially when you declare a living human being to be dead, yeah.
 
2013-08-21 09:36:29 PM  
I've come back from The Dead several times.  Usually with enlarged pupils.
 
2013-08-21 09:39:59 PM  
Mirrors on the ceiling,The pink champagne on ice . And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device" 
And in the master's chambers, they gathered for the feast.
They stab it with their steely knives, But they just can't kill the beast.
 
Last thing I remember, I was running for the door 

I had to find the passage back To the place I was before.
 
2013-08-21 09:44:04 PM  
Jesus did it.  2 days later or something like that.
 
2013-08-21 09:44:47 PM  

ReapTheChaos: "Nobody really has an explanation for it... medically, anyway,"

I do. The doctor farked up and pronounced him dead when he was actually still alive, Probably had a very faint heartbeat and shallow respiration.  It happens.


I'm sure no EKG's where used in this code...
 
2013-08-21 09:45:26 PM  
This is the evil work of Satan. He was right on the precipice of plunging into freedom and instead he got brought back into Ohio. This is the saddest thing I've read today.
 
2013-08-21 09:45:37 PM  

mrEdude: yah I'm with reapthechaos on this one.
He was never dead.

What happens to your brain with no breathing ie oxygen after only a few minutes?

Or am I missing something?
Gawd knows I'm no doctor...


Brain cells last 4-6 minutes without oxygen. Muscle lasts a bit longer when it comes to oxygen. Once heart muscle is dead, that's it.

There's one blood vessel that feeds the heat they call the widowmaker, because if you aren't in a hospital when that sucker gets clogged, you are farked.
 
2013-08-21 09:46:12 PM  

100 Watt Walrus:


I love this graph.
 
2013-08-21 09:57:23 PM  
Even better, waking up on the operating table just as doctors are about to begin harvesting your organs.
 
2013-08-21 10:01:55 PM  

namegoeshere: Even better, waking up on the operating table just as doctors are about to begin harvesting your organs.


AW, HELLS NO.
 
2013-08-21 10:03:52 PM  
Actually, I just re-read TFA, and it reads that they worked on him for 45 minutes, called the code, then were cleaning him up for the family when the EKG must have showed something. He must have been in Vfib or something that they could not convert, which means he had a pulse, just not one that would sustain life. The heart was basically just twitching instead of pumping.

IANAD, but that's what it looks like. And the reporter needs to learn how to write. I can see how the subby could have misunderstood, but the headline is misleading. People come back from 45 minutes of CPR every day, and especially in a clinical setting.
 
2013-08-21 10:05:14 PM  
He has until Christmas to rescue Santa Claus.
 
2013-08-21 10:06:56 PM  

PainfulItching: People come back from 45 minutes of CPR fapping every day, and especially in a clinical setting.


Sorry, had to do that..
 
2013-08-21 10:18:30 PM  

ReapTheChaos: "Nobody really has an explanation for it... medically, anyway,"

I do. The doctor farked up and pronounced him dead when he was actually still alive, Probably had a very faint heartbeat and shallow respiration.  It happens.


Pretty much.  Your brain can't survive 45 minutes without blood circulating through it.
 
2013-08-21 10:29:56 PM  

tiamet4: Pretty much. Your brain can't survive 45 minutes without blood circulating through it.


Maybe the dude's just a seekrit zombie now, trying to assimilate into our culture, and plot his BRAAIIINNZ-eating feast!
 
2013-08-21 10:31:35 PM  

grokca: This is why I leave the coding to younger folks.


Ya, thanks for that.  ;)

/PGY2.
//Why, yes: I did get vomited on, during a code, by someone who, if he had a brain left, would have begged for death, yesterday.
 
2013-08-21 10:32:43 PM  
I saw a movie about that sort of thing

"You never do blow before? Sometimes your heart stops, start up again. Read a book!"

deskofbrian.com

/hot
 
2013-08-21 10:42:53 PM  

alex10294: grokca: This is why I leave the coding to younger folks.

Ya, thanks for that.  ;)

/PGY2.
//Why, yes: I did get vomited on, during a code, by someone who, if he had a brain left, would have begged for death, yesterday.


-raises hand- 95 year old bedridden guy CVA with a code brown. Granddaughter begging for him to be brought back, he had no DNR. Here, we couldn't pronounce in the field if the body was still warm. Absolute asystole. After stinking up the unit hauling his carcass to the hospital pumping this poor man's chest, the doc called it as soon as he got blood gasses. He was well gone.

/CSB
/I get to that point, I'm having it tattooed on my chest
 
2013-08-21 10:44:39 PM  
www.bestcareanywhere.net
Not Impressed.
 
2013-08-21 10:50:18 PM  
"We are so sorry, your [family member] has passed away."

[45 minutes later]
"Sorry, we pronounced him dead, but he is alive now.  No blood no foul."
 
2013-08-21 10:50:45 PM  

tiamet4: ReapTheChaos: "Nobody really has an explanation for it... medically, anyway,"

I do. The doctor farked up and pronounced him dead when he was actually still alive, Probably had a very faint heartbeat and shallow respiration.  It happens.

Pretty much.  Your brain can't survive 45 minutes without blood circulating through it.


That may be true...he's claiming a higher power now.
 
2013-08-21 11:02:48 PM  
Someone must've been running late for their tee time.
 
2013-08-21 11:58:48 PM  

adm_crunch: I think it's only common on TV.


It depends on the situation but, for the most part, you are completely correct. Depending on which statistics you look at, the survival rate is somewhere between 2% and 18%. I've done it twice in the last few weeks and I'm 0 for 2, and I'm a certified EMT. Who would have thought that television would lie to us!?
 
2013-08-21 11:59:44 PM  
And the meek shall inherit the Earth. Congrats on getting rejected from heaven buddy.
 
2013-08-22 12:06:38 AM  

mod3072: adm_crunch: I think it's only common on TV.

It depends on the situation but, for the most part, you are completely correct. Depending on which statistics you look at, the survival rate is somewhere between 2% and 18%. I've done it twice in the last few weeks and I'm 0 for 2, and I'm a certified EMT. Who would have thought that television would lie to us!?


That's because as an emt you're there too late. It's common (more than 70 percent for me) in a hospital environment. The problem is that whatever killed them in the first place will kill them again, and being brought back from the dead doesn't cure you like tv. Being dead actually makes you much worse off on top of whatever killed you. That's why the 30.day survival is so low...

Also, 9/10 people I do CPR on have very little.interest in being alive. It's family, and not just religious ones, that won't see that it's a terrible idea...
 
2013-08-22 12:47:11 AM  
This sounds vaguely threatening to me:

"I pointed at him and I said, 'Dad, you're not going to die today.'
 
2013-08-22 12:49:03 AM  

RogermcAllen: Fabric_Man: Creoena: Miracle? No. Incompetent doctors and nurses? Probable.

Incompetent? No. Over-worked and hurried? Probable.

Incompetent?  Yes.  Being overworked and hurried to the point that you suck at your job makes you incompetent.


Really? Now you're thinking like miracle man there. As in, not at all.
 
2013-08-22 01:22:13 AM  

RexTalionis: It has begun.


Well, I guess we're done here.
 
2013-08-22 01:42:23 AM  
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2013-08-22 02:14:45 AM  
I've been dead before ;)
 
2013-08-22 02:21:49 AM  

SpinStopper: I've been dead before ;)


Apparently you got better.
 
2013-08-22 03:10:31 AM  
No miracle, he just wasn't dead yet.
But to cover their incompetence and make holy rollers happy- It's a miracle!
 
2013-08-22 04:46:35 AM  

Stoker: No miracle, he just wasn't dead yet.
But to cover their incompetence and make holy rollers happy- It's a miracle!


Hey, it's cool how you can know exactly what happened without being there. Got the inside scoop on the whole Brangelina breakup situation?

Sorry, I just hate it when people state things as fact when they are based on faith. The religious nuts aren't the only ones who do that. I'd agree with you if you said, "probably", but acting like you know for sure? Silly. Maybe he really was dead, and he's just too stupid to notice the dain bramage he got while dead. Maybe an alien saved him. Maybe there's a physical process at work that we don't fully understand yet. Maybe some deity fixed him just to piss people like you off. Sorry that I replied to you specifically, when you're just repeating things 50 or so other people have said. This is intended for all of them also.
 
2013-08-22 05:15:26 AM  
It was in Ohio. How do they know he was dead and not just in Ohio?
 
2013-08-22 05:28:08 AM  
FTFA:"In the last 20 years, I've never seen anybody who we have pronounced dead and actually the patient we saw with no activity once we stopped doing all our efforts and then for him to come back... I've never seen it," Dr. Raja Nazir said. "Actually, I've never heard of it."

He did Nazir that one coming.
 
2013-08-22 05:39:45 AM  

PainfulItching: Actually, I just re-read TFA, and it reads that they worked on him for 45 minutes, called the code, then were cleaning him up for the family when the EKG must have showed something. He must have been in Vfib or something that they could not convert, which means he had a pulse, just not one that would sustain life. The heart was basically just twitching instead of pumping.

IANAD, but that's what it looks like. And the reporter needs to learn how to write. I can see how the subby could have misunderstood, but the headline is misleading. People come back from 45 minutes of CPR every day, and especially in a clinical setting.


If he was in vfib they would've either continued to code him until he had a stable heartbeat, or asystole had been present for some time resulting in both cardiac and eventual brain death.  You don't stop coding someone who is fibrillating or having pulseless electrical activity.  Those patients are alive and can often still be saved by identifying and correcting the underlying cause.  In this guy's case, they probably coded him until it was clear he had passed the point of cardiac death AND brain death due to prolonged cardiac arrest with questionable or insufficient oxygenation.  I don't doubt they had good reason to think the dude was dead.  It is highly unlikely that medical incompetence accounts for their assessment considering that ER doctors and nurses are all required to be PALS & ACLS certified and can surely run a code from a set of standard instructions.  The people insinuating incompetence probably know jack shiat about anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, internal medicine, and how codes actually work.

As researchers are learning, death is a process and not necessarily an immediate transition.  Provided the body and brain receive enough oxygen and assistance (e.g. cooling, drug interventions, H&Ts), it can be kept alive for some time even though it appears dead.  Advances in resuscitation are seeing greater percentages of people being brought back from the brink of death with no long-term adverse effects more than ever.  In hospitals equipped with ECMO technology, survival rates can top 30-35% whereas with traditional CPR the success rate is somewhere closer to 5%. Nobody knows at this point, and they may never know what happenedto reverse the process of death of death in this guy.  Was it miraculous?  Probably not, but then my definition of miraculous is not as generous as the average Christian or layperson.  This was just currently unexplainable.
 
2013-08-22 05:50:25 AM  

budrojr: As researchers are learning, death is a process and not necessarily an immediate transition.


True, but there is a point of no return in which someone can be declared "definitely dead".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_death
 
2013-08-22 05:52:58 AM  

tiamet4: ReapTheChaos: "Nobody really has an explanation for it... medically, anyway,"

I do. The doctor farked up and pronounced him dead when he was actually still alive, Probably had a very faint heartbeat and shallow respiration.  It happens.

Pretty much.  Your brain can't survive 45 minutes without blood circulating through it.


Of course, oxygenated blood was being pumped through his brain the entire time thanks to the magic of CPR.  What is surprising is that he came back after they had ceased doing that.  At what point he came back was questionable.  How long were his brain and heart truly without oxygen?  Did he recover a heartbeat shortly after being pronounced dead?  Or was he "dead" for some time between being pronounced and being cleaned up for viewing?  If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on he recovered a heartbeat shortly after being pronounced dead, and it was some time before someone noticed a sign of life.
 
2013-08-22 06:01:28 AM  

Abacus9: budrojr: As researchers are learning, death is a process and not necessarily an immediate transition.

True, but there is a point of no return in which someone can be declared "definitely dead".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_death


Yes, and that's probably where the guy was at, which is what freaked everyone out so much.  It's like the doc said.  That stuff never happens, and you don't even HEAR of it ever happening.

Now, when medicine advances to the point where we're able to repair the damage done at the cellular level, potentially restoring destroyed/damaged information pathways, we'll have to move the goalposts for death yet again.
 
2013-08-22 07:31:03 AM  
If anybody sees this guy wandering around, remember, AIM FOR THE HEAD!

www.joelcrary.com
 
2013-08-22 08:35:51 AM  
No picture of Captain Jack Harkness?
 
2013-08-22 08:46:27 AM  

Mikeyworld: Your brain can't survive 45 minutes without blood circulating through it.

That may be true...he's claiming a higher power now.


Then maybe he should re-read the article too.  They tried to resuscitate him for 45 minutes.  The article gives no mention of how much time had passed after that before he recovered on his own.
 
2013-08-22 10:35:47 AM  
I'll bet he has a real hankerin' for a BRAIN BURGER right about now....mmmmmm
 
2013-08-22 12:46:58 PM  
Maybe he was pining for the F...OHIO!??
 
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