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(Opposing Views)   If you let southern parents decide who their children will be classmates with, do you get: a) a lot of diversity, b) some diversity, or c) total segregation?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 33
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2013-08-21 11:07:21 PM  
10 votes:
Be honest now.  If you had a choice, would you want YOUR kids exposed to southern white kids?
2013-08-21 11:19:30 PM  
8 votes:

dletter: " The school allows parents to choose their child's teachers and classmates. "

This seems like a total sham "plan" anyway...... how does this even work?   Do they all write down their preferences, and then they picked a random lottery to see who got first choice?   Because, ok, lets say the 3rd grade classes, there is one teacher out of the five at the school lets say that is much better than the others... I'm sure all the parents wanted their kids in her class (regardless of color).  So, some parents are going to have to go with their 2nd, 3rd, etc choice.

As far as picking classmates... were the black parents primarily picking black classmates as well?   Or was it somehow the school board trying to "lead" the issue and push to same race classrooms, despite who people picked?

The damning statement though is:   "In a few instances the Troy City School District disregarded requests by Caucasian parents to place their child with African-American teachers."  Now, as I stated, the whole system seems odd to me anyway, since there is no way everyone's requests can be met like that.  It has to be a bit more overt than "I didn't get the teacher we wanted"... that has to have happened a lot.   But, if basically all cross-race matches were "denied", then, you have a pretty damning case.


You libs are really reading too much into this.  I've seen the form the parents were given to choose their teachers and they're completely innoculous and innoccent.   You didn't even get to choose your exactly classmates or teachers.  The choices were simpily what skin color your kid was and if you wanted your child to have any n******s in the class.  That's all, nothing racist.

What's your problem, I mean really.
2013-08-21 09:20:27 PM  
7 votes:
Poor Obvious tag.  You go grab something from the fridge and return only to find you're slot has been given away.
2013-08-21 11:09:14 PM  
3 votes:

Nuclear Monk: Be honest now.  If you had a choice, would you want YOUR kids exposed to southern white kids?


Thread over. Go home everyone.
2013-08-21 11:09:15 PM  
2 votes:

AirForceVet: Lsherm: I'm not sure the results would be any different if you allowed parents from any school district in the country to make the same choice.

I'm sorry, but where were you in the South during the 1960s? Gleam in your daddy's eye, perhaps?


And his uncle's. And it was the same guy
2013-08-21 11:08:11 PM  
2 votes:
Alabama: Because Afghanistan needs stupid backwards Westerners to make jokes about
2013-08-21 11:05:50 PM  
2 votes:

Pumpernickel bread: I don't think this phenomenon is just in the South.   Probably see the same sort of thing the world over.   I don't think a member of the Muslim Brotherhood would let his kid go to a U.S. school.  Would probably fight to get his kid out of Exeter.


He'd probably send him to a madrassa in Indonesia.
2013-08-22 09:51:55 AM  
1 votes:

ParagonComplex: Dudes, it's Alabama. A LA BA MA. It is not a paragon of racial tolerance. What did you expect? It is the most redneck state in the nation. Alabama and Georgia have knockdown drag-out fights over who is the most redneck and racist. This is not at all surprising.


Wow, you just proved what an ignorant moron you are.  Thanks for that.
2013-08-22 02:15:04 AM  
1 votes:

impaler: thenumber5: once you get away from the North East Coast, and West coast, and upper mid west. The south is in line population wise with most of the countr

So you admit they don't have HUGE asian population numbers.

Which was the original point.

So what's your point?

Also, once you get away from the North East Coast, and West coast, and upper mid west - you're in the South.


i40.tinypic.com
2013-08-22 01:30:49 AM  
1 votes:

Teufel Ritter: Oh I know, good sir. I was simply alluding to Hitchhiker's Guide.


Well then, 42 and carry on.
2013-08-22 01:26:56 AM  
1 votes:

impaler: Teufel Ritter: QED

He said, before disappearing in a puff of logic.

Not true. This is fark, so by declaring QED, I've won the thread. Granted it's not fair, but like I mentioned earlier, this is fark.

Don't make me QED a second time.


Oh I know, good sir.  I was simply alluding to Hitchhiker's Guide.
2013-08-22 12:33:35 AM  
1 votes:

thenumber5: never been to the south have you we have a HUGE Asian population


No, you don't.

Percent Asian population
Georgia 3.5%
Alabama 1.2%    
Florida 2.7%    
South Carolina 0.1%
Texas 0.1%
Louisiana 1.7%
Mississippi 0.9%

It surprises me how many people think "my neighborhood" equals "the universe".

/ Well, not surprising in states with historically low levels of education
2013-08-22 12:24:11 AM  
1 votes:

anuran: Yes please:

Thanks for pointing this out.  We should vote those bastards out of office.  Where's my voter ID card?

You think you'll be allowed to vote against the Republicans? Isn't that precious


Well over 90% of them are dead, so I can't vote for them in good conscience.  Not that I'm a Deather.
2013-08-22 12:21:20 AM  
1 votes:
Yes please:

Thanks for pointing this out.  We should vote those bastards out of office.  Where's my voter ID card?

You think you'll be allowed to vote against the Republicans? Isn't that precious
2013-08-22 12:19:56 AM  
1 votes:

catpuncher: Classes should be segregated... by academic ability. Parental choice? WTF?


But every measure of that ability is racially biased.  That is why NY changes its tests periodically to try and find a test that places students into advanced classes at a rate that approximates the racial mix of the city.  To date, this has failed.  Asians and whites excel, Hispanics and blacks fall behind.  It's a shame, too, because every race is just as smart as the other races.
2013-08-22 12:02:14 AM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: Look, freedom of association is not an American value, ok? Nowhere is that right even mentioned. Forced integration doesn't cause any tensions or problems whatsoever.


Paging Mr. Crow. Mr. James Crow, please answer the zebra courtesy phone.
2013-08-21 11:50:04 PM  
1 votes:

Debeo Summa Credo: Lsherm: AirForceVet: Lsherm: I'm not sure the results would be any different if you allowed parents from any school district in the country to make the same choice.

I'm sorry, but where were you in the South during the 1960s? Gleam in your daddy's eye, perhaps?

Doesn't matter.  The south is still racist, but so is the north.  Pretending otherwise is just delusional.

Whites in the north began moving out of cities once forced integration via busing took hold.  They self-segregated.  So my point stands:  I don't think the results would be any different if you allowed parents in any school district in the country to make the same choice.

This. Everyone does this, north or south, red or blue.


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2013-08-21 11:49:42 PM  
1 votes:
Look, freedom of association is not an American value, ok? Nowhere is that right even mentioned. Forced integration doesn't cause any tensions or problems whatsoever.
2013-08-21 11:47:03 PM  
1 votes:

northguineahills: I was born and raised in the South, and my parents made sure I had play mates of all races in the 70s.  Although my parents were college educated and my father was in the Navy.

/anecdotal evidence is anecdotal


Wait, this sounds familiar . . .

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2013-08-21 11:39:19 PM  
1 votes:
Is this the thread where white people gripe about the racial prejudice and indignity they have suffered over many decades?

/ Yes
// Yes it is
2013-08-21 11:34:32 PM  
1 votes:

js34603: 12349876: Pacfanweb: Funny how people are piling on white folks, but fail to see that the all-black classes were that way because THEIR parents wanted it that way.

Which is exactly what the people who created this policy wanted to happen.

So they created the policy because they knew the black parents would segregate themselves and they wanted them to do that?

That's...racist? I'm honestly not sure, but I'm white so I feel guilty anyway.

I guess it's racist they wanted the classes to end up segregated, if that is true....but apparently so did the black parents since that's what they chose for their kids. Should I be offended here or not?


The trickiest kind of racist,
2013-08-21 11:34:07 PM  
1 votes:

Vectron: demaL-demaL-yeH: Vectron: Why is this a bad thing?

Separate is not equal. Fourteenth Amendment. Civil Rights Act. Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Brownbeckistan.

How about if it is voluntary?


Well, that's different.

Let me see here:
Separate is still not equal.
Fourteenth Amendment is still the standard for equal treatment of persons.
Civil Rights Act is still the law of the land.
Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Brownbeckistan is settled law.
2013-08-21 11:30:33 PM  
1 votes:
School really is just like prison.
2013-08-21 11:26:12 PM  
1 votes:
2013-08-21 11:18:52 PM  
1 votes:
So people tend to choose to be with people who are similar to themselves?

I say the following with every ounce of authority that my PhD in Social Psychology conveys:

Well DUH!!!
2013-08-21 11:18:50 PM  
1 votes:
Southerners you say? But how can this be?

Oh yeah. The curse on the  sons of Ham. Well, you can hardly blame them, can you?

"A black Christian is like a black person with no memory." - Chris Rock
2013-08-21 11:14:07 PM  
1 votes:
Dudes, it's Alabama. A LA BA MA. It is not a paragon of racial tolerance. What did you expect? It is the most redneck state in the nation. Alabama and Georgia have knockdown drag-out fights over who is the most redneck and racist. This is not at all surprising.
2013-08-21 11:11:23 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: slayer199: So in a school with a 62% black population, the black parents chose black teachers for their kids and the white parents chose white teachers for their kids so the classrooms were ultimately divided by the race of the teacher?  How is the school culpable (other than it's a stupid idea)?  Unless the school fudged the numbers, how is that forced segregation?

FTA:The complaint further alleges that the school acted deliberately in segregating the races, even denying requests; "In a few instances the Troy City School District disregarded requests by Caucasian parents to place their child with African-American teachers."


That's called affirmative action.
2013-08-21 11:03:05 PM  
1 votes:
Did I miss something?  The article didn't mention any all white classes did it?

Sounds like the school just has an honors/gifted program.
2013-08-21 10:55:21 PM  
1 votes:
I wouldn't let my kids sit in class with those ignorant bastards if I could help it.
2013-08-21 10:27:39 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: slayer199: So in a school with a 62% black population, the black parents chose black teachers for their kids and the white parents chose white teachers for their kids so the classrooms were ultimately divided by the race of the teacher?  How is the school culpable (other than it's a stupid idea)?  Unless the school fudged the numbers, how is that forced segregation?

FTA:The complaint further alleges that the school acted deliberately in segregating the races, even denying requests; "In a few instances the Troy City School District disregarded requests by Caucasian parents to place their child with African-American teachers."


Yeah, slayer199.  Where the fark did you find your little bit of information?  Was  it from ... SATAN?

/Played well in another thread from today.
2013-08-21 09:32:08 PM  
1 votes:
The South hasn't changed.
2013-08-21 08:48:11 PM  
1 votes:
xavdematoscom.ipage.com

"No! What a shock!"
 
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