dletter: " The school allows parents to choose their child's teachers and classmates. "This seems like a total sham "plan" anyway...... how does this even work? Do they all write down their preferences, and then they picked a random lottery to see who got first choice? Because, ok, lets say the 3rd grade classes, there is one teacher out of the five at the school lets say that is much better than the others... I'm sure all the parents wanted their kids in her class (regardless of color). So, some parents are going to have to go with their 2nd, 3rd, etc choice.As far as picking classmates... were the black parents primarily picking black classmates as well? Or was it somehow the school board trying to "lead" the issue and push to same race classrooms, despite who people picked?The damning statement though is: "In a few instances the Troy City School District disregarded requests by Caucasian parents to place their child with African-American teachers." Now, as I stated, the whole system seems odd to me anyway, since there is no way everyone's requests can be met like that. It has to be a bit more overt than "I didn't get the teacher we wanted"... that has to have happened a lot. But, if basically all cross-race matches were "denied", then, you have a pretty damning case.
Nuclear Monk: Be honest now. If you had a choice, would you want YOUR kids exposed to southern white kids?
AirForceVet: Lsherm: I'm not sure the results would be any different if you allowed parents from any school district in the country to make the same choice.I'm sorry, but where were you in the South during the 1960s? Gleam in your daddy's eye, perhaps?
Pumpernickel bread: I don't think this phenomenon is just in the South. Probably see the same sort of thing the world over. I don't think a member of the Muslim Brotherhood would let his kid go to a U.S. school. Would probably fight to get his kid out of Exeter.
impaler: thenumber5: once you get away from the North East Coast, and West coast, and upper mid west. The south is in line population wise with most of the countrSo you admit they don't have HUGE asian population numbers.Which was the original point.So what's your point?Also, once you get away from the North East Coast, and West coast, and upper mid west - you're in the South.
Teufel Ritter: Oh I know, good sir. I was simply alluding to Hitchhiker's Guide.
impaler: Teufel Ritter: QEDHe said, before disappearing in a puff of logic.Not true. This is fark, so by declaring QED, I've won the thread. Granted it's not fair, but like I mentioned earlier, this is fark.Don't make me QED a second time.
thenumber5: never been to the south have you we have a HUGE Asian population
anuran: Yes please:Thanks for pointing this out. We should vote those bastards out of office. Where's my voter ID card?You think you'll be allowed to vote against the Republicans? Isn't that precious
catpuncher: Classes should be segregated... by academic ability. Parental choice? WTF?
untaken_name: Look, freedom of association is not an American value, ok? Nowhere is that right even mentioned. Forced integration doesn't cause any tensions or problems whatsoever.
Debeo Summa Credo: Lsherm: AirForceVet: Lsherm: I'm not sure the results would be any different if you allowed parents from any school district in the country to make the same choice.I'm sorry, but where were you in the South during the 1960s? Gleam in your daddy's eye, perhaps?Doesn't matter. The south is still racist, but so is the north. Pretending otherwise is just delusional.Whites in the north began moving out of cities once forced integration via busing took hold. They self-segregated. So my point stands: I don't think the results would be any different if you allowed parents in any school district in the country to make the same choice.This. Everyone does this, north or south, red or blue.
northguineahills: I was born and raised in the South, and my parents made sure I had play mates of all races in the 70s. Although my parents were college educated and my father was in the Navy./anecdotal evidence is anecdotal
js34603: 12349876: Pacfanweb: Funny how people are piling on white folks, but fail to see that the all-black classes were that way because THEIR parents wanted it that way.Which is exactly what the people who created this policy wanted to happen.So they created the policy because they knew the black parents would segregate themselves and they wanted them to do that?That's...racist? I'm honestly not sure, but I'm white so I feel guilty anyway.I guess it's racist they wanted the classes to end up segregated, if that is true....but apparently so did the black parents since that's what they chose for their kids. Should I be offended here or not?
Vectron: demaL-demaL-yeH: Vectron: Why is this a bad thing?Separate is not equal. Fourteenth Amendment. Civil Rights Act. Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Brownbeckistan.How about if it is voluntary?
RexTalionis: slayer199: So in a school with a 62% black population, the black parents chose black teachers for their kids and the white parents chose white teachers for their kids so the classrooms were ultimately divided by the race of the teacher? How is the school culpable (other than it's a stupid idea)? Unless the school fudged the numbers, how is that forced segregation?FTA:The complaint further alleges that the school acted deliberately in segregating the races, even denying requests; "In a few instances the Troy City School District disregarded requests by Caucasian parents to place their child with African-American teachers."
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