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2013-08-22 01:09:16 AM  

Occam's Nailfile: One murder, crime of passion/extreme circumstance:  20 years.
Multiple murders, rape, torture, kidnapping, child molestation (and I don't mean a 19 year old farking a 16 year old), other heinous crimes that indicate an evil and depraved mind:  Death.

If someone is so useless to the planet that we never want them to EVER again be able to walk free, just kill them.  Everyone gets closure, done deal.  Give them 5 years to fight their case, two appeals maximum, and if necessary, increase judicial budgets to make certain that they have access to the court system.  Set up a series of courts designed strictly to handle death penalty cases, with experienced judiciaries in the field.

It is MUCH more likely that a murderer will kill again than it is that an innocent person will be executed.  The math is simple:  choose the solution that has the lowest loss of life.

Method of execution?  Something instant and painless, like a C4 helmet. Let them choose if they want to be conscious or not during the explosion.

Let the whiners whine about it.  Mock them for the pussies they are.  There are 7 billion people on this rock, we can't farking allow vicious, evil bastards to walk around and prey on the rest of us.

And the argument that "nothing of value was lost" is retarded.  If it was of no value to begin with, then we should have executed them long ago.  If someone is in prison, and deserves to live, then we should rehabilitate them (actually rehabilitate them, not just throw them in a concrete box with other assholes and see what happens), and they should have a chance for a future.  If they suck so badly that they don't deserve that chance, then just do away with them and move on.


The problem is proving someone guilty. It's very difficult to prove that someone is guilty without some doubt. A person's life depends on that jury decision, and the jury could always be wrong. That's why many (though not all) people are against the death penalty. I'm not, but it should be absolutely proven that someone is guilty before the state or anyone else should be allowed to take their life.
 
2013-08-22 01:09:55 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: [www.negrophonic.com image 125x124]


+one million internets for any bring-back of the world's greatest .gif
 
2013-08-22 01:12:45 AM  
Sounds like that guy is responsible for saving the tax payers some money.
 
2013-08-22 01:22:26 AM  

Abacus9: The problem is proving someone guilty. It's very difficult to prove that someone is guilty without some doubt. A person's life depends on that jury decision, and the jury could always be wrong. That's why many (though not all) people are against the death penalty. I'm not, but it should be absolutely proven that someone is guilty before the state or anyone else should be allowed to take their life.


I'm with ya, which is why I say a trial by jury, two appeals, and experienced capital crime judiciaries should be employed.  For sure, let's get it right, to the best degree we can.  Can we guarantee that NO innocent will EVER be condemned?  Nope.  But we can guarantee that the guy being executed can never again harm another human being.  And we can also spend a hell of a lot less money on incarceration, lawyers, etc.

And yeah, I know it costs a bazillion dollars to execute someone.  But that's only because our current system requires a hand-written letter from God on gold parchment to finally execute someone.  Streamline the process, while simultaneously creating the best review system we can.

Oh, and make the penalty for falsely testifying against someone in a capital case death.  For anyone, cops and government officials included.  Talk about a system that polices itself...if someone goes before a judge and is willing to put THEIR life on the line to testify against someone, you can bet your ass they are a whole lot less likely to lie, or to frame someone.
 
2013-08-22 01:27:07 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: He's hardly the worst. There's no prison sex involved. If you're in prison for life anyway, would you rather be mercifully ended or used like a blow-up doll?


I'd rather be mercifully ended; however, being strangled by  my cellmate probably wouldn't be the way I'd prefer.
 
2013-08-22 01:29:45 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: He's hardly the worst. There's no prison sex involved. If you're in prison for life anyway, would you rather be mercifully ended or used like a blow-up doll?


don't forget a significant percentage of men are born liking that.

/not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2013-08-22 01:37:30 AM  

Arnprior Joe: Oldiron_79: Just think, the cell mate that got murdered by the multi murderer that should have been executed a long time ago was probably in for something minor like pot possession.

In prison He's killed a child molester and a rapist/murderer.  I'm not feeling too bad about either one.


He's their very own hassle free death penalty.
 
2013-08-22 01:58:24 AM  
Pretend to care, pretend to care, pretend to care...
 
2013-08-22 02:00:38 AM  
In the joint, we do not call anyone a cellmate. We never use the word mate. Period.
 
2013-08-22 02:05:33 AM  

Occam's Nailfile: Abacus9: The problem is proving someone guilty. It's very difficult to prove that someone is guilty without some doubt. A person's life depends on that jury decision, and the jury could always be wrong. That's why many (though not all) people are against the death penalty. I'm not, but it should be absolutely proven that someone is guilty before the state or anyone else should be allowed to take their life.

I'm with ya, which is why I say a trial by jury, two appeals, and experienced capital crime judiciaries should be employed.  For sure, let's get it right, to the best degree we can.  Can we guarantee that NO innocent will EVER be condemned?  Nope.  But we can guarantee that the guy being executed can never again harm another human being.  And we can also spend a hell of a lot less money on incarceration, lawyers, etc.

And yeah, I know it costs a bazillion dollars to execute someone.  But that's only because our current system requires a hand-written letter from God on gold parchment to finally execute someone.  Streamline the process, while simultaneously creating the best review system we can.

Oh, and make the penalty for falsely testifying against someone in a capital case death.  For anyone, cops and government officials included.  Talk about a system that polices itself...if someone goes before a judge and is willing to put THEIR life on the line to testify against someone, you can bet your ass they are a whole lot less likely to lie, or to frame someone.


If you had a newsletter, I would subscribe. As far as cops and government officials, I think it should be even harsher for them, because they're held to a higher standard.
 
2013-08-22 02:09:05 AM  

phrawgh: I always got lucky and had cool cellmates. It's definitely a mixed bag out there.

/cellmates are like a box of chocolates

 
2013-08-22 02:14:53 AM  
Does CNN refer to him as "Bowling Ball Bag Bob?"
 
2013-08-22 02:20:09 AM  

Abacus9: Occam's Nailfile: Abacus9: The problem is proving someone guilty. It's very difficult to prove that someone is guilty without some doubt. A person's life depends on that jury decision, and the jury could always be wrong. That's why many (though not all) people are against the death penalty. I'm not, but it should be absolutely proven that someone is guilty before the state or anyone else should be allowed to take their life.

I'm with ya, which is why I say a trial by jury, two appeals, and experienced capital crime judiciaries should be employed.  For sure, let's get it right, to the best degree we can.  Can we guarantee that NO innocent will EVER be condemned?  Nope.  But we can guarantee that the guy being executed can never again harm another human being.  And we can also spend a hell of a lot less money on incarceration, lawyers, etc.

And yeah, I know it costs a bazillion dollars to execute someone.  But that's only because our current system requires a hand-written letter from God on gold parchment to finally execute someone.  Streamline the process, while simultaneously creating the best review system we can.

Oh, and make the penalty for falsely testifying against someone in a capital case death.  For anyone, cops and government officials included.  Talk about a system that polices itself...if someone goes before a judge and is willing to put THEIR life on the line to testify against someone, you can bet your ass they are a whole lot less likely to lie, or to frame someone.

If you had a newsletter, I would subscribe. As far as cops and government officials, I think it should be even harsher for them, because they're held to a higher standard.


what're you gonna do, kill them twice?  Bring back the rack?  Iron maiden?  Have them drawn and quartered?

/force them to lake lit classes with my english professor, they'll beg to die
//class is full of hotties ...  too bad I'm almost old enough to be their father
///that artsy one in the back is nice, though
 
2013-08-22 02:45:13 AM  

doglover:  Give them a dozen options from barbiturate puddin' to an old fashioned axeman complete with gunt and hood.


Gunt, n, Bulging area found on large older women between the waist and the genital area. Not quite a gut, not quite a coont... The Gunt. [urbandictionary.com]

so...  axewoman complete with gunt? or unaltered transman axeman complete with gunt?
 
2013-08-22 03:09:32 AM  
And a good time was had by all.
 
2013-08-22 03:14:54 AM  

Trance354: I think it should be even harsher for them, because they're held to a higher standard.

what're you gonna do, kill them twice? Bring back the rack? Iron maiden? Have them drawn and quartered?


No, I mean harsher sentences for more minimal crimes.
 
2013-08-22 03:24:42 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: You have to wonder why they didn't place this inmate in a single cellthe same cell as a serial child rapist given his history.


FTFsociety.
 
2013-08-22 03:27:57 AM  
He killed a child molester and a rapist/murderer...should get a few years off his sentence or a couple freebies at the prison store.  If he keeps this up, he may solve the overcrowding problem by himself.
 
2013-08-22 03:30:32 AM  
Note to self: stay out of jail.
 
2013-08-22 03:46:01 AM  
A lot of tough guys in this thread who think they know better than the system. Lulz
 
2013-08-22 03:52:07 AM  

doglover: Bathia_Mapes: You have to wonder why they didn't place this inmate in a single cell given his history.

No, YOU have to wonder what kind of monster you are to want to torture a man for decades. There is no crime dark enough to warrant solitary confinement for more than a short time. Long, long before that point is reached, you should kill the one doing the crimes.

This guy? He's murdered his family. Kill him for that and let's move on. That's 3 hots and an empty cot extra.

Same with most prisoners, really. The light offenses can be pardoned and expunged and the monsters can easily be killed. That would leave us with about 40% of the inmate pop left but the entire budget to help them with.


Gotta put em down when they're rabid...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-22 03:54:09 AM  

Abacus9: A lot of tough guys in this thread who think they know better than the system. Lulz


beyondthepulpitmabc.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-22 04:35:24 AM  

doglover: Abacus9: A lot of tough guys in this thread who think they know better than the system. Lulz

[beyondthepulpitmabc.files.wordpress.com image 590x300]


I'm saying change the system, don't go around it and be all vigilante-like. I haven't said any ITG stuff.
 
2013-08-22 04:44:11 AM  

Abacus9: A lot of tough guys in this thread who think they know better than the system. Lulz


Pretty much. Torture, murder and rape are bad...unless they're happening in prison, in which case it's hysterical and/or just desserts or alternatively "why should I care?"

However, if the prisoner is someone we LIKE (for instance if the dead man was Pfc. Manning) then we'd be back to TORCHER IS BAD!  RAPE IS BAD! WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING?!?!
 
2013-08-22 05:06:24 AM  

Occam's Nailfile: One murder, crime of passion/extreme circumstance:  20 years.
Multiple murders, rape, torture, kidnapping, child molestation (and I don't mean a 19 year old farking a 16 year old), other heinous crimes that indicate an evil and depraved mind:  Death.

If someone is so useless to the planet that we never want them to EVER again be able to walk free, just kill them.  Everyone gets closure, done deal.  Give them 5 years to fight their case, two appeals maximum, and if necessary, increase judicial budgets to make certain that they have access to the court system.  Set up a series of courts designed strictly to handle death penalty cases, with experienced judiciaries in the field.

It is MUCH more likely that a murderer will kill again than it is that an innocent person will be executed.  The math is simple:  choose the solution that has the lowest loss of life.

Method of execution?  Something instant and painless, like a C4 helmet. Let them choose if they want to be conscious or not during the explosion.

Let the whiners whine about it.  Mock them for the pussies they are.  There are 7 billion people on this rock, we can't farking allow vicious, evil bastards to walk around and prey on the rest of us.

And the argument that "nothing of value was lost" is retarded.  If it was of no value to begin with, then we should have executed them long ago.  If someone is in prison, and deserves to live, then we should rehabilitate them (actually rehabilitate them, not just throw them in a concrete box with other assholes and see what happens), and they should have a chance for a future.  If they suck so badly that they don't deserve that chance, then just do away with them and move on.


How about a C4 supository?
 
2013-08-22 05:13:47 AM  

Abacus9: I'm saying change the system,


That's all I'm saying too.

Nothing I've proposed is anything but a return to saner days.
 
2013-08-22 05:15:41 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Abacus9: A lot of tough guys in this thread who think they know better than the system. Lulz

Pretty much. Torture, murder and rape are bad...unless they're happening in prison, in which case it's hysterical and/or just desserts or alternatively "why should I care?"

However, if the prisoner is someone we LIKE (for instance if the dead man was Pfc. Manning) then we'd be back to TORCHER IS BAD!  RAPE IS BAD! WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING?!?!


As long as it was done properly, he could have hung for all I care.
 
2013-08-22 05:18:32 AM  

doglover: Abacus9: I'm saying change the system,

That's all I'm saying too.

Nothing I've proposed is anything but a return to saner days.


I didn't really mean you, I was referring to all the tough guys in the thread who think it's acceptable for prisoners to rape and kill each other because "screw them they're bad guys." - That's why we have a system, to handle things so we don't need vigilantes. Don't like the system, change it. That's one thing Americans seem to have forgotten, it's that these things aren't set in stone. But "rules are rules, they can't evar change!"
 
2013-08-22 05:29:00 AM  
No one likey my substitute headline?
 
2013-08-22 06:24:58 AM  
The problem I have here is that the suspect in this prison murder has already killed another inmate previously, when he was still in a Montana prison. Seems to me that if you're convicted of killing another inmate, you should be segregated away from other inmates for the rest of your stay in prison, however long that may be. Let them have conversational contact in the exercise yard, as long as they are in individual, fenced-off areas (still able to communicate, not able to physically contact each other), but otherwise they would have no contact with fellow inmates. The only contact with staff would be controlled, never one-on-one, and the subject would be shackled during any transport.

In short, a sort of quasi-solitary, only without the soul-crushing lack of human contact involved. To leave these inmate killers in the general population is only asking for them to kill again. I mean, what do they have to lose?
 
2013-08-22 07:06:00 AM  
"Minnesota ain't got the death penalty. And now that (expletive) has killed another person."

Kitzhaber has said no inmate will be put to death as long as he's governor.


Some people just need to die, Govnuh...
 
2013-08-22 07:09:14 AM  
 
2013-08-22 07:13:05 AM  
Assisted suicide?
 
2013-08-22 07:16:50 AM  

Abacus9: Derp. And I'm pro-death penalty.


Uh huh.
 
2013-08-22 07:40:12 AM  

FuzedBox: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX212uUi39s

Oblig?


The guy who gets murdered in that scene is obviously a vampire...*puts on sunglasses* because it took a stake to kill him.
 
2013-08-22 07:41:18 AM  
steak.

/haven't slept
 
2013-08-22 07:45:27 AM  
Wow, figuring out that the only person who could have done it did do it.

i42.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-22 08:09:39 AM  

jaylectricity: Eponymous: jaylectricity: [img.fark.net image 553x369]

Damn....I love that movie.

/Fresca anyone?

I think I watched that movie before bed 20 outta 30 nights at one point. It doesn't get enough love.


I had to IMDB this to figure out that the movie is "Let's Go to Prison".  The cast looks great so I'm going to watch it soon.
 
2013-08-22 08:21:44 AM  
I don't see a reason to segregate this guy, just be selective of who shares a cell with this guy.  The guy who sleeps with his daughter would be a start.

/Darrel Hammond would play this guy in the made for television movie.
 
2013-08-22 09:02:29 AM  

Arnprior Joe: Oldiron_79: Just think, the cell mate that got murdered by the multi murderer that should have been executed a long time ago was probably in for something minor like pot possession.

In prison He's killed a child molester and a rapist/murderer.  I'm not feeling too bad about either one.


Yeah, are we sure he isn't just doing what he can to pay back society?
 
2013-08-22 09:09:09 AM  
"Parole Board chairman: They've got a name for people like you H.I. That name is called "recidivism."
Parole Board member: Repeat offender!
Parole Board chairman: Not a pretty name, is it H.I.?
H.I.: No, sir. That's one bonehead name, but that ain't me any more.
Parole Board chairman: You're not just telling us what we want to hear?
H.I.: No, sir, no way.
Parole Board member: 'Cause we just want to hear the truth.
H.I.: Well, then I guess I am telling you what you want to hear.
Parole Board chairman: Boy, didn't we just tell you not to do that?
H.I.: Yes, sir.
Parole Board chairman: Okay, then."

-- Raising Arizona
 
2013-08-22 09:41:50 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: [www.negrophonic.com image 125x124]


I don't know how I haven't seen that before, but that is definitely worthy of the awarding of an internets.  And now I'm not sure who influenced who: Bjork or meow said the dog.
 
2013-08-22 09:48:58 AM  

Sobrrr: He killed a child sex offender before he could be released from prison and out into the public again. Isn't this what prison is good for?


TFA said "sex offender", not CHILD sex offender.

Quite possibly a HUGE difference there.
 
2013-08-22 10:11:49 AM  

anthonix: [si0.twimg.com image 225x225]


Approves!
 
2013-08-22 12:47:27 PM  
FTA   "Kitzhaber has said no inmate will be put to death as long as he's governor. "

Nope, no death penalty but, we may put you on a work detail alone with a psychopath who's already killed another prisoner...
 
2013-08-22 03:44:15 PM  

jaylectricity: Eponymous: jaylectricity: [img.fark.net image 553x369]

Damn....I love that movie.

/Fresca anyone?

I think I watched that movie before bed 20 outta 30 nights at one point. It doesn't get enough love.


IMHO, Dax Shepard is one of themost uderrated actors working. Idiocracy? Awesome. Let's go to jail? Awesome. Employee of the Month? Awesome. Hit and Run? Unbelievably awesom! (Tom Arnold was great in it too.)

Did anyone notice in "Let's Go To Jail" that Shepards costumes at the beginning were all costumes from different killers on film? The one that sticks out in my head was the mirrored sunglasses and army coat when he first got out of jail.

/now back to the "Let's kill all criminals"/"No, criminals deserve our love and hugs" thread
 
2013-08-22 04:00:29 PM  
Jail's not so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet. Course, it's shank or be shanked.
 
2013-08-22 07:42:31 PM  

TOSViolation: Snapper Carr: [img12.imageshack.us image 400x308]

You sure about that?

I had to use Google image search to find the reference.  There are people who actually watched that show?  Weird.  The IMDB comments amused me.  Idiot people.


I watched that show religiously. It was a fantastic show. I was a Chris/Toby shipper, big time.
 
2013-08-22 07:45:49 PM  

jaylectricity: [img.fark.net image 553x369]


["Let's Go to Prison" still]

I loved that movie! I accidentally came across it and thought it would be stupid, but it eventually captured my attention with that scene and I was so happy they ended up together in the free world. The last scene of them in their winery tasting room was awesome :D
 
2013-08-22 09:52:21 PM  

Sobrrr: He killed a child sex offender before he could be released from prison and out into the public again. Isn't this what prison is good for?


I'd want to see the sex offender's case before passing judgement, given that courts now use the tag for some 17-y-o sexting pics of his junk to his GF.

If the victim did something like rape an 8-y-o, then okay.  We know he never got any treatment, so he'd most likely offend again, with another child scarred for life.

Kind of like the guy who bashed Dahmer to death.  No big loss.
 
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