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2013-08-21 04:35:16 PM
And what's wrong with Duck Dynasty?  way better than Honey Boo Boo, Jersey Shore and that fraud that calls herself the Long Island Medium.
 
2013-08-21 04:45:26 PM
I'm not so much worried about the demise of reality TV itself as much as I am about the demise of the people who "star" in these shows.
 
2013-08-21 04:48:38 PM

exick: I'm not so much worried about the demise of reality TV itself as much as I am about the demise of the people who "star" in these shows.


And by "worried" you mean not so much concerned about their well being but concerned this may not happen as quickly as we might hope?
 
2013-08-21 04:59:51 PM

Ennuipoet: exick: I'm not so much worried about the demise of reality TV itself as much as I am about the demise of the people who "star" in these shows.

And by "worried" you mean not so much concerned about their well being but concerned this may not happen as quickly as we might hope?


Let's just say the fact that it hasn't happened as of yesterday fills me with a deep, weary dissatisfaction. I'm not sure there's a word for it...
 
2013-08-21 05:02:16 PM
I've come to not HATE reality shows. There HAVE been some good ones. I used to love Amazing Race just for the fact they went places you'd never really go as a tourist.
I also don't mind Ramsey's shows but when it comes to just showing people in their daily lives and make it appear normal, like anything on MTV, it's where it has to stop.

Talking to some of my kids' friends, it's amazing that, some I considered intelligent, still can't figure out why they can't get on a reality show when I tell them they don't take normal people. No one would watch normal people.

Someone on here a while ago talked about how we used to have idiots like Archie Bunker and Al Bundy to watch and think "Oh, those guys. What a bunch of morons." and now, we've found out not only do people like that really exist, but will let us watch them like a retarded zoo.
 
2013-08-21 05:03:54 PM
I watch that show just for Uncle Si and Phil, those two crack me up.
 
2013-08-21 05:04:55 PM

exick: Let's just say the fact that it hasn't happened as of yesterday fills me with a deep, weary dissatisfaction. I'm not sure there's a word for it...


I know the feeling, it;s right there on the tip of my tongue...
 
2013-08-21 05:20:28 PM

Zombie DJ: Amazing Race


I stopped the Amazing Race after Boston Rob's season.  That was right around the time when half the teams looked like they were selected through central casting.
 
2013-08-21 05:34:08 PM
I've never seen Duck Dynasty, so I'm baffled by the appeal, nothing about it ever wanted me want to tune in - why do I care about a bunch of rednecks who make duck calls?

The fact that it has popularity beyond the niche redneck and hunting crowds is really baffling.  Maybe I should watch an episode to see what the big deal is.

Most reality TV is trash, and it's taking up valuable time slots from what could be quality scripted television.  SyFy has a bevy of insipid reality shows when they should be doing what their name suggests, and creating quality scripted sci-fi programming.

USA, TNT, and FX seem to be the strongest non-premium cable channels now when it comes to actual quality programming.  As long as I can still get Falling Skies, Covert Affairs, Suits, Burn Notice, Major Crimes, and Always Sunny I guess it isn't too bad, but I still wish there was more along the lines of SG:U, Flash Gordon, and Caprica on SyFy and less makeup artist and cosplay competitions (not to mention the f-ing wrestling.  Seriously, how does wrestling in any way relate to sci-fi).
 
2013-08-21 05:40:54 PM
reality show "Duck Dynasty" catapulted to become the biggest unscripted show

I think we can go ahead and stop calling these reality shows "unscripted."
 
2013-08-21 05:42:57 PM

Shostie: reality show "Duck Dynasty" catapulted to become the biggest unscripted show

I think we can go ahead and stop calling these reality shows "unscripted."


But they are unscripted, they are improv shows.  Here is the topic, here are some props, let's try to do this in less than 5 takes.
 
2013-08-21 05:46:10 PM
Yes, there are crappy reality shows just like there are crappy dramas and comedies.  But I never understood the hate for the entire genre.  Shows like Ice Road Truckers (for example) may not be the greatest TV ever... but its interesting to see people in jobs I'd never thought of or knew anything about.
 
2013-08-21 05:50:53 PM
Yet I can't find anyone who has actually watched it.
 
2013-08-21 05:55:54 PM
Why would I want to watch a bunch of scuzzy-bearded halfwits?
 
2013-08-21 06:01:39 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I've never seen Duck Dynasty, so I'm baffled by the appeal, nothing about it ever wanted me want to tune in - why do I care about a bunch of rednecks who make duck calls?

The fact that it has popularity beyond the niche redneck and hunting crowds is really baffling.  Maybe I should watch an episode to see what the big deal is.

Most reality TV is trash, and it's taking up valuable time slots from what could be quality scripted television.  SyFy has a bevy of insipid reality shows when they should be doing what their name suggests, and creating quality scripted sci-fi programming.

USA, TNT, and FX seem to be the strongest non-premium cable channels now when it comes to actual quality programming.  As long as I can still get Falling Skies, Covert Affairs, Suits, Burn Notice, Major Crimes, and Always Sunny I guess it isn't too bad, but I still wish there was more along the lines of SG:U, Flash Gordon, and Caprica on SyFy and less makeup artist and cosplay competitions (not to mention the f-ing wrestling.  Seriously, how does wrestling in any way relate to sci-fi).


I generally dislike all things redneck, but I caught an episode while waiting in a doctors office and could see why it's popular. The guys on it are genuinely funny and fun to watch, that's really all there is to it.
 
2013-08-21 06:02:48 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I've never seen Duck Dynasty, so I'm baffled by the appeal, nothing about it ever wanted me want to tune in - why do I care about a bunch of rednecks who make duck calls?

The fact that it has popularity beyond the niche redneck and hunting crowds is really baffling.  Maybe I should watch an episode to see what the big deal is.


Duck Dynasty is the modern-day rural sitcom.  It's a well-established genre that's just been dormant for a long-time.  But Duck Dynasty and its brethren are just new examples of an old form.
 
2013-08-21 06:06:30 PM

Zombie DJ: Someone on here a while ago talked about how we used to have idiots like Archie Bunker and Al Bundy to watch and think "Oh, those guys. What a bunch of morons." and now, we've found out not only do people like that really exist, but will let us watch them like a retarded zoo.


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2013-08-21 06:11:03 PM
My addled grandmother used to get confused when she watched TV, and think that the characters on Gunsmoke had actually been shot.  Now you're all my grandmother.

Reality TV=pro wrestling.
 
2013-08-21 06:11:35 PM

Tom_Slick: Shostie: reality show "Duck Dynasty" catapulted to become the biggest unscripted show

I think we can go ahead and stop calling these reality shows "unscripted."

But they are unscripted, they are improv shows.  Here is the topic, here are some props, let's try to do this in less than 5 takes.


Take note of the number of writers credited at the end of these reality shows.
 
2013-08-21 06:12:57 PM
I was unaware that there were rumors as to the demise of reality TV.  It just seems to have morphed a bit.  4 years ago it was all about midgets  and people in cold places doing shiat.  Now it's about rednecks and Amish people doing shiat.  eventually we will run out of subcultures and revisit old ones in a retro way.
 
2013-08-21 06:21:08 PM
"Reality TV" is the biggest reason why I'm itching to ditch cable.  The occasional cooking show is one thing.. but these endless 'contests' that are supposed to be 'skill' but are really just popularity contests are just dumb.  I especially despise the 'looking for a husband/wife' shows.  And any of the 'lifestyle' shows (Real Housewives, Honey Boo Boo, Kardashians) are just beyond stupid.

My sons enjoy the Comedy Channel and the History Channel.  My mom still watches Castle, NCIS and CSI.  But hubby, daughter and I watch... no tv at all and like it that way.
 
2013-08-21 06:22:23 PM

mcreadyblue: Tom_Slick: Shostie: reality show "Duck Dynasty" catapulted to become the biggest unscripted show

I think we can go ahead and stop calling these reality shows "unscripted."

But they are unscripted, they are improv shows.  Here is the topic, here are some props, let's try to do this in less than 5 takes.

Take note of the number of writers credited at the end of these reality shows.


Exactly. Some situations are orchestrated in the sense that the scene and mood (joy, anger, jealousy, etc) are set up prior to the reality stars' arrivals. Cameras are strategically placed to capture the scene that unfolds. The writers then take the raw footage coupled with the ideas that fueled the orchestration and cut out or rearrange the filmed scenes. An incredibly obvious tell is if the camera cuts away from a person's face while they're talking - more often than not, the voice-over dialogue is from a completely different scene or situation. It's called a 'frankenbyte'.

/Word of advice to reality tv stars - don't piss off the writers or your frankenbytes WILL be nasty or embarrassing.
 
2013-08-21 06:32:20 PM

3steps: "Reality TV" is the biggest reason why I'm itching to ditch cable.  The occasional cooking show is one thing.. but these endless 'contests' that are supposed to be 'skill' but are really just popularity contests are just dumb.  I especially despise the 'looking for a husband/wife' shows.  And any of the 'lifestyle' shows (Real Housewives, Honey Boo Boo, Kardashians) are just beyond stupid.

My sons enjoy the Comedy Channel and the History Channel.  My mom still watches Castle, NCIS and CSI.  But hubby, daughter and I watch... no tv at all and like it that way.


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/Shamelessly borrowed
 
2013-08-21 06:39:11 PM
I had an idea for a reality show: get groups of people to create model nations based on different political structures (direct democracy, fascism, communism, and anarchism) and see which one is the most successful.
 
2013-08-21 06:40:58 PM
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2013-08-21 06:55:25 PM

Tom_Slick: Shostie: reality show "Duck Dynasty" catapulted to become the biggest unscripted show

I think we can go ahead and stop calling these reality shows "unscripted."

But they are unscripted, they are improv shows.  Here is the topic, here are some props, let's try to do this in less than 5 takes.


Well in that case, they shouldn't even be classified "reality" shows.  Just call them "simulated reality" or "slice of life" if you like, but they don't in any way reflect reality if the people appearing on the shows have to be given a topic, props to be seen on screen with, and then do whatever they're supposed to be doing in more than one take.
 
2013-08-21 07:05:00 PM
Duck Dynasty is the exception, not the rule. As has been said here, the producers set up wacky scenarios for the guys to interact with, then let them riff away and film it all. The guys are basically all amateur comedians and the results are usually uproariously funny, with a sprinkling of touching family moments. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. Uncle Si is already an American institution.

I actually watched an episode of Amish Mafia, and THAT show represents everything wrong with reality television. Completely scripted, poorly acted, totally unconvincing.
 
2013-08-21 07:06:35 PM
Twice the number of viewers the premiere of Breaking Bad had. And this is why we don't get more shows like Breaking Bad.
 
2013-08-21 07:19:27 PM

browntimmy: Twice the number of viewers the premiere of Breaking Bad had. And this is why we don't get more shows like Breaking Bad.


yeah, because even if ratings and production costs were irrelevant, Hollywood would be so great at producing shows of that quality.
 
2013-08-21 07:25:21 PM
So my pitch idea of Hony Boo-Boo dances with the Kardashians is still viable?.
 
2013-08-21 07:26:17 PM

Uncle Pooky: browntimmy: Twice the number of viewers the premiere of Breaking Bad had. And this is why we don't get more shows like Breaking Bad.

yeah, because even if ratings and production costs were irrelevant, Hollywood would be so great at producing shows of that quality.


Well, there's also Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, and House of Cards.
 
2013-08-21 07:28:50 PM

unfarkingbelievable: Why would I want to watch a bunch of scuzzy-bearded halfwits?


The guys at my office love it. I think it is stupid.
 
2013-08-21 07:38:19 PM
Some reality shows aren't bad, it's the ones that are nothing but watching people go about their daily lives (be it a family or a group of people they threw together) that need to go. If your life's so pathetic that you have to watch someone else live theirs then I feel sorry for you.

/I have no interest in watching someone else's drama.
 
2013-08-21 07:50:39 PM

downstairs: Yes, there are crappy reality shows just like there are crappy dramas and comedies.  But I never understood the hate for the entire genre.  Shows like Ice Road Truckers (for example) may not be the greatest TV ever... but its interesting to see people in jobs I'd never thought of or knew anything about.


I think some people just look at the worst show they can think of and use it to judge all the shows that way. Not every reality show is Real Housewives. Sometimes there really is a gem in there, like Dirty Jobs, or Strip Search, or The Mole. Some people call Mythbusters a reality show. People just have to be willing to not dwell on the garbage.

I like what Television Without Pity does on their boards: they subdivide the reality genre into 'competitive reality', 'candid reality' and 'how-to reality'. At the very least, it makes you more able to compare like to like. Big Brother and Deadliest Catch are in no way the same kind of show; it makes no sense to paint them with the same brush.
 
2013-08-21 08:06:06 PM
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2013-08-21 08:31:08 PM
The rumors of the demise of "cable" television have not been greatly exaggerated.
 
2013-08-21 08:34:07 PM
 
2013-08-21 08:34:41 PM
My wife is watching Little People right now, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-08-21 08:41:33 PM

CygnusDarius: Well, there's also Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, and House of Cards.


Of your three examples, only one's on basic cable.
 
2013-08-21 08:41:48 PM

Zombie DJ: I've come to not HATE reality shows. There HAVE been some good ones. I used to love Amazing Race just for the fact they went places you'd never really go as a tourist.
I also don't mind Ramsey's shows but when it comes to just showing people in their daily lives and make it appear normal, like anything on MTV, it's where it has to stop.

Talking to some of my kids' friends, it's amazing that, some I considered intelligent, still can't figure out why they can't get on a reality show when I tell them they don't take normal people. No one would watch normal people.

Someone on here a while ago talked about how we used to have idiots like Archie Bunker and Al Bundy to watch and think "Oh, those guys. What a bunch of morons." and now, we've found out not only do people like that really exist, but will let us watch them like a retarded zoo.


Dude, I had relatives that were exactly like Archie Bunker.  It wasn't we were laughing at an imaginary moron.  The moron was my Uncle.
 
2013-08-21 08:47:27 PM

Cytokine Storm: Zombie DJ: Someone on here a while ago talked about how we used to have idiots like Archie Bunker and Al Bundy to watch and think "Oh, those guys. What a bunch of morons." and now, we've found out not only do people like that really exist, but will let us watch them like a retarded zoo.

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2013-08-21 09:05:29 PM
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2013-08-21 09:11:10 PM
This makes me want to get all stabby stabby stab

I farking hate most people
 
2013-08-21 09:11:42 PM
dammitz
 
2013-08-21 09:21:57 PM
It is too cheap and easy to make. BUT I am confident that the public will eventually become tired of it and it will go away.  This kind of shiat comes and goes all the time.
 
2013-08-21 09:30:50 PM
If you feel the urge to white knight a show about people who became billionaires by selling duck calling devices, yet still act out every hill-billy stereotype for pay, you have already lost the argument.


/just don't talk mess about "Swamp Preppers: You Got Towed (Little People Edition) Aftershow Interviews Season 8", because when they started wife-swapping, that was some Emmy-caliber dramatic shiat right there.
 
2013-08-21 09:44:09 PM

Richard C Stanford: I had an idea for a reality show: get groups of people to create model nations based on different political structures (direct democracy, fascism, communism, and anarchism) and see which one is the most successful.


You stole my idea!
 
2013-08-21 09:44:41 PM
I like Swamp People....but I hate how these shows keep bringing in new people that don't fit.
Gene Simmons show was great the first 2 seasons or so and went down hill once things started getting more scripted.

When I worked in radio, my morning show was featured in Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution show. I learned just how non reality reality shows really were.
 
2013-08-21 09:56:28 PM
Future idea for a reality show: Wall-Street Cyber-Arena.

Wall Street interns subject themselves to cybernetic operations in order to fight to the death against each other in order to work in Wall Street.
 
2013-08-21 09:59:12 PM
I love the Duck show and the Gator show, partly because I live kinda like that.  Alligator season opens on the first Wednesday of September. White shrimp season is open right now in inland waters. My freezer is only about half full.

However, I'm more clean cut than those guys and my wife looks nothing like theirs. They are all good people, though.
 
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