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2013-08-21 04:38:47 PM
"Hack" and "hacker" is becoming like "troll" -- the word has been broadened to cover so many different activities that it is losing meaning and usefulness.
 
2013-08-21 04:39:41 PM
Bet those guys have a lot of Whuffie.
 
2013-08-21 04:42:35 PM
Eclectic Anarchist Hackerspace is the name of my Marilyn Manson cover band.
/DNRTFA
 
2013-08-21 04:42:54 PM
meh
 
2013-08-21 04:43:18 PM
*splat*
 
2013-08-21 04:43:19 PM
They're just an innocuous tuple-processing collective.
 
2013-08-21 04:44:04 PM
cdn.buzznet.com
 
2013-08-21 04:48:41 PM
um, not seeing a problem here.

/would put that bunch up against the basement dwellers here in virtually any measure of accomplishment.
//since the hackerspace around here even runs their own still for absinthe, i would even dare to include drinking in that.
 
2013-08-21 04:50:50 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
Ooh, do they have rollerblades too?
 
2013-08-21 04:51:00 PM
Treehouse?
 
2013-08-21 04:51:18 PM
A friend of mine is a member and I stopped by when I was in San Fran a few months ago. It made me want to move there. Very cool stuff going on.

\Not all hacking happens on a computer.
 
2013-08-21 04:51:44 PM
They created one of these back in 1995.  Ask Angelina Jolie's mom.
www.cnet.com
 
2013-08-21 04:51:50 PM
Listen, you want to see our city in flames
Cause you're full of pity and blame
You just want the freedom to sit at home and play videogames
Maybe we could drain some ingrained aggression
If you came for a training session...

/is my distance from the mic propa?
 
2013-08-21 04:55:06 PM
Not... not really sure what's supposed to be the head-explodey part, here.

Is it the bit where people go do something with themselves besides post shiat on the internet from the comfort of mom's basement?  Because that  was a little shocking.
 
2013-08-21 04:58:56 PM
Redundant Department of Redundancy Department
 
2013-08-21 04:59:49 PM
Hippie 1:  Right now we're proving we don't need corporations. We don't need money. This can become a commune where everyone just helps each other.

Hippie 2:  Yeah, we'll have one guy who like, who like, makes bread. A-and one guy who like, l-looks out for other people's safety.

STAN:  You mean like a baker and a cop?

Hippie 3:   No no, can't you imagine a place wherepeople live together and like, provide services for each other in exchangefor their services?

KYLE:   Yeah, it's called a town.

Hippie 1:  You kids just haven't been to college yet. But just you wait, this thing isabout to get HUGE.
 
2013-08-21 05:00:15 PM

FrancoFile: They're just an innocuous tuple-processing collective.


That is, of course, the party line, which is only believed by complete idiots.
 
2013-08-21 05:01:54 PM
"Would not visit. Tables look way under calibrated."


/fark yeah rad town!
 
2013-08-21 05:03:02 PM
Elevator Ocelot Rutabaga

/c'mon, let's all play
 
2013-08-21 05:04:44 PM
i.ebayimg.com
 
2013-08-21 05:07:23 PM

FunkOut: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x198]
Ooh, do they have rollerblades too?


Thurston Howell: They created one of these back in 1995.  Ask Angelina Jolie's mom.
[www.cnet.com image 600x366]


There we go. Just don't piss Angelina Jolie off by beating her at a Playstation game. (Cyberdelia was a fun concept, this place looks like it's more for Hoarders or Hipsters (or both)
 
2013-08-21 05:08:52 PM
Satan's Reindeer (YouTube, sfw).
 
2013-08-21 05:10:58 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: FunkOut: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x198]
Ooh, do they have rollerblades too?

Thurston Howell: They created one of these back in 1995.  Ask Angelina Jolie's mom.
[www.cnet.com image 600x366]

There we go. Just don't piss Angelina Jolie off by beating her at a Playstation game. (Cyberdelia was a fun concept, this place looks like it's more for Hoarders or Hipsters (or both)


I like to think that in an alternate universe, the predictions of old hippie psychdelic aficionados and young raver hacker types actually came to be.
 
2013-08-21 05:12:35 PM

China White Tea: Not... not really sure what's supposed to be the head-explodey part, here.

Is it the bit where people go do something with themselves besides post shiat on the internet from the comfort of mom's basement?  Because that  was a little shocking.


actually, i think thats exactly it. sad, but 100% correct.
 
2013-08-21 05:15:44 PM

RevCarter: A friend of mine is a member and I stopped by when I was in San Fran a few months ago. It made me want to move there. Very cool stuff going on.

\Not all hacking happens on a computer.



Just discovered The Factory in my neck of the woods yesterday. Wish I was doing something worthwhile to make use of a membership there.
 
2013-08-21 05:17:29 PM
We're putting together a maker space in conjunction with our local library. It's a great educational resource and it will bring new purpose for our under-utilized library. It's really a cool idea- you don't have to own and maintain a lathe, CNC router, 3D printer, laser cutter, kiln, etc.,  just join the maker space and use theirs.  Aside from the played out hipster hate, what's so bad about this?
 
2013-08-21 05:17:54 PM

Arkanaut


"Hack" and "hacker" is becoming like "troll" -- the word has been broadened to cover so many different activities that it is losing meaning and usefulness.


Eclectic is going downhill, too: sadly, it's doing the eclectic slide.
 
2013-08-21 05:20:40 PM
I'm not smart, so I don't like it.

Where's the plebeian relevancy!?
 
2013-08-21 05:30:55 PM
"The rock which I most dread is the discipline of the institution, and it is that on which most of our public schools labor. The insubordination of our youth is now the greatest obstacle to their education. We may lessen the difficulty, perhaps, by avoiding too much government, by requiring no useless observances, none which shall merely multiply occasions for dissatisfaction, disobedience and revolt by referring to the more discreet of themselves the minor discipline, the graver to the civil magistrates."
-Thomas Jefferson to George Ticknor, 182
 
2013-08-21 05:32:21 PM

redsquid: We're putting together a maker space in conjunction with our local library. It's a great educational resource and it will bring new purpose for our under-utilized library. It's really a cool idea- you don't have to own and maintain a lathe, CNC router, 3D printer, laser cutter, kiln, etc.,  just join the maker space and use theirs.  Aside from the played out hipster hate, what's so bad about this?


whats so bad about it is that it removes another 'barrier' to being productive, even if a currently mostly imaginary one, that people like to use as an excuse as to why they are not accomplishing anything.

remember, every couch potato daydreamer is convinced they would be insanely rich and do many great world-changing things 'if only' all these barriers were not in the way. i have noticed than when you show people the barriers really aren't there, and people just like them are actually doing great things, many get excited and jump at the chance, but the reaction is almost universally very visceral and negative from some specific personality types.

no one wants to admit that they are simply lazy and unmotivated, they always need a reason for it not to be their fault, or even their choice if possible. anyone showing them up and putting a lie to their delusion always get a load of hate.
 
2013-08-21 05:48:23 PM
Social media gurus, big data experts and cloud computing strategists, huh?
 
2013-08-21 05:51:13 PM

redsquid: We're putting together a maker space in conjunction with our local library. It's a great educational resource and it will bring new purpose for our under-utilized library. It's really a cool idea- you don't have to own and maintain a lathe, CNC router, 3D printer, laser cutter, kiln, etc.,  just join the maker space and use theirs.  Aside from the played out hipster hate, what's so bad about this?


That's pretty damn awesome.  I've found myself wishing I had access to manufacturing equipment once or twice.
 
2013-08-21 06:09:09 PM

Phoenix87ta: redsquid: We're putting together a maker space in conjunction with our local library. It's a great educational resource and it will bring new purpose for our under-utilized library. It's really a cool idea- you don't have to own and maintain a lathe, CNC router, 3D printer, laser cutter, kiln, etc.,  just join the maker space and use theirs.  Aside from the played out hipster hate, what's so bad about this?

That's pretty damn awesome.  I've found myself wishing I had access to manufacturing equipment once or twice.


One of the bigwigs from Make Magazine recently did a standing room only speech at the national librarians conference. Many librarians are now fired up to do tech projects and community based hacking programs. It's a win-win situation- geeks get a place to do their thing and libraries get more people through the door.
 
2013-08-21 06:27:25 PM
What I've noticed is that "anarchist hacker spaces" either are lying and there's a cabal of some sort in control, or they're really anarchist and people do whatever they like, possibly to the detriment of others.  Nothing wrong with the cabal organization if they're open and honest about it, but usually they sell people on the idea that it's a utopian group.  That's fine if you agree with what the group in control does, but god help you if you don't.

"No government" also means no rules to keep people from stepping on you, no guaranteed rights like a fair hearing or storage space of your own, and the majority of members can kick you out if they don't like you, even if the reason they don't like you is that you're black or a lesbian.

It's too bad, because a minimal amount of governance and organization would let a lot of these places go far, if the members weren't so against "the man".

If you're a business student, these things are interesting to watch, because typically the people running them assume they're too smart to build their organization using standard business rules and practices, then they go out and make every single mistake in the book without even recognizing that they're operating just like every other "unique" small business that's tried to exist.
 
2013-08-21 06:42:28 PM
Lame ass journalism

The actual vocabulary is Cracker .. not Hacker. A Hacker is one who lashed code together out of the madness of Management 'Teams' .. as in  hacking code.

A Cracker was one who cracked code.

Or, a man who used a bullwhip in the sweet sweet Old Dixie

(crrrr-ack!)
 
2013-08-21 07:24:39 PM

AccuJack: What I've noticed is that "anarchist hacker spaces" either are lying and there's a cabal of some sort in control, or they're really anarchist and people do whatever they like, possibly to the detriment of others.  Nothing wrong with the cabal organization if they're open and honest about it, but usually they sell people on the idea that it's a utopian group.  That's fine if you agree with what the group in control does, but god help you if you don'


That sounds like every group since, well, the invention of groups.
 
2013-08-21 07:31:43 PM

FrancoFile: They're just an innocuous tuple-processing collective.


Innocous Tuple-processing Collective is the name of  my Marilyn Manson cover band.
 
2013-08-21 07:41:42 PM
If by "head explode" you mean "eyes roll", then yes, absolutely right.
 
2013-08-21 09:09:36 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Lame ass journalism

The actual vocabulary is Cracker .. not Hacker. A Hacker is one who lashed code together out of the madness of Management 'Teams' .. as in  hacking code.

A Cracker was one who cracked code.

Or, a man who used a bullwhip in the sweet sweet Old Dixie

(crrrr-ack!)


Or you could RTFA.
 
2013-08-21 09:28:09 PM

AccuJack: What I've noticed is that "anarchist hacker spaces" either are lying and there's a cabal of some sort in control, or they're really anarchist and people do whatever they like, possibly to the detriment of others.  Nothing wrong with the cabal organization if they're open and honest about it, but usually they sell people on the idea that it's a utopian group.  That's fine if you agree with what the group in control does, but god help you if you don't.

"No government" also means no rules to keep people from stepping on you, no guaranteed rights like a fair hearing or storage space of your own, and the majority of members can kick you out if they don't like you, even if the reason they don't like you is that you're black or a lesbian.

It's too bad, because a minimal amount of governance and organization would let a lot of these places go far, if the members weren't so against "the man".

If you're a business student, these things are interesting to watch, because typically the people running them assume they're too smart to build their organization using standard business rules and practices, then they go out and make every single mistake in the book without even recognizing that they're operating just like every other "unique" small business that's tried to exist.


Are you trying to provoke the traditional "anarchism does not mean anarchy" response? Anarchists are ok with rules, as long as they get to make them - and in this case their ground rules are pretty clear and commonsense, and they're here: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/About

They're not utopians, and they've been doing really well for the past six years.
 
2013-08-21 09:32:31 PM
FTFA: "Sewing and soldering and cooking all happen together. When people are exposed to this, there's no barrier, no matter how little you know,"
 
2013-08-21 09:43:39 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Lame ass journalism

The actual vocabulary is Cracker .. not Hacker. A Hacker is one who lashed code together out of the madness of Management 'Teams' .. as in  hacking code.

A Cracker was one who cracked code.

Or, a man who used a bullwhip in the sweet sweet Old Dixie

(crrrr-ack!)


Yeah, but Noisebridge isn't people cracking other people's code. It's a space for messing with electronics and programming. Did you even read the article?

/I still have no idea what Subby is confused about.
 
2013-08-21 10:39:27 PM
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2013-08-22 12:16:51 AM
Shared labs like this are all over... I've been to Baltimore Node a few times, and wanted to but haven't gotten around to visiting Unallocated Space.

Basically, people find a cheap rental space and all chip in for rent and utilities, and then every member can pool equipment, resources and expertiese so that everyone has a far better lab than any one person could have individually.

Hackerspace Wiki maintains a list if anyone wants to check one out. Just look for one near you and see if they have an open lab night.
 
2013-08-22 12:23:02 AM
Hmmm. Upon looking at the Hackerspace Wiki list I just posted, it doesn't look very complete. Your best bet would be to google your city or state followed by hackerspace.
 
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