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(LA Times)   No more lead worries since you finally re-plumbed your house with copper. Get ready to do it again with...oh, hello...you seem nice. Do you like pizza? I had a cat once   (latimes.com) divider line 110
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2013-08-22 02:43:17 AM
DNRTFT yet, but as an apprentice electrician I was taught that among the many reasons to do quality work was that constant exposure to aluminum, used in sh*tty installs, increased your odds of Alzheimer's significantly while exposure to copper, used in more workmanlike installs, actually prevented it.

/Stripping, splicing, and cutting wires dozens or hundreds of times a day is enough to coat the outside of your wire strippers--and the pores in your fingers--with copper or aluminum dust. It's feasible that the dust enters your bloodstream, but IANAFDoctor.
 
2013-08-22 03:01:54 AM

Mr. Eugenides: Lead solder hasn't been available for at least 30 years, it went out with lead paint.


Um, bullsh*t. 50/50 solder was easily available up to about 10 years ago. Some hillbillly supply houses will still sell it to you if you lie and say it's for your boiler pipes. (Although I have no clue where they're getting it.)

Fade2black: Otherwise the stuff will last for decades.


Unacceptable. Plumbing, wiring, and ducting (obviously excluding fixtures) should be good for centuries. If not, it's garbage. I really wish I weren't so poor, or I would have made sure I had no CPVC  flex duct, or ductboard in my house. At least all the wiring is 12ga copper.

The plumbing discussion is moot anyway, though. As anyone who has repaired plumbing should know, pipes quickly develop a patina anyway. You're not getting the pipe material in your water.
 
2013-08-22 08:03:04 AM
I've been drinking and driving for years, and I got fined.
 
2013-08-22 08:07:14 AM
switched to all stainless steel(well, ok, like 99% stainless steel, I think the vat we deep fry turkeys in twice a year is aluminum) based on the aluminum worries. One one hand, nice to know I probably don't have to actually worry about that. On the same hand, I personally like stainless steel anyway.

No copper pans in the house anyway. We're on a well with a ridiculously complex water filtration system(due to hard water, bacterial iron, sediment. Can't believe the pump hasn't died yet in 30 years, frankly), so there's a little bit of copper plumbing between the system and the taps, but on the other hand, we don't drink the water unless it's been through at least a britta style filter(in the fridge water system), and primarily use water from a tap I installed that uses a reverse osmosis filtering system.

I think we'll be OK. Maybe. Until the report on stainless steel and something in water filters that causes some disease start showing up.
 
2013-08-22 08:26:13 AM
Waanh! I got too much copper in my water, waaanh! Just drink Pepsi and shut the fark up.

Copper's metal. Metal never did nothing to nobody, pussy. I don't drink anything but Moscow mules and I remember being born, so there. I refute your mumbo-jumbo with raspberries and grand flourishes and gestures.
 
2013-08-22 10:50:19 AM
...and before copper it was aluminum.

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Shall we take nominations for the next cause of Alzheimer's?   There are lots of candidates to choose from, PVC, chrome, tin, iron...
 
2013-08-22 01:20:04 PM

ssjd2: Mr. Eugenides: Broktun: Isn't the solder used lead??

Isn't the pipes coming up the street lead?

Lead solder hasn't been available for at least 30 years, it went out with lead paint.  If you need some I still have a spool though because, you never know when you'll need it!

Your water main in the street is almost certainly cast iron.  The pipe leading from the street to the house may be lead, but that went out in the 40s or 50s, so if your house was built after that it's most likely copper and not lead.  It's easy enough to tell what your water service is made from.  If it's copper colored, there's a good chance it's copper.  If it's gray and you can scratch it with your thumbnail it's probably lead.

I'm a technician in the navy and all of our solder certainly contains lead (and some of our paint too).


Yeah, but it's all left over from WWII isn't it.
 
2013-08-22 01:34:52 PM

TopoGigo: Mr. Eugenides: Lead solder hasn't been available for at least 30 years, it went out with lead paint.

Um, bullsh*t. 50/50 solder was easily available up to about 10 years ago. Some hillbillly supply houses will still sell it to you if you lie and say it's for your boiler pipes. (Although I have no clue where they're getting it.)


I suspect you're getting old like me and the years are starting to compress.  10 years ago was 2003.  Lead paint was banned in 1977 and at the same time they started to phase out lead solder in plumbing, it was effectively banned for potable water systems in 1986 (27 years ago).  I know of a local hardware store that's been family owned for a century that has a few spools of dusty lead solder on the shelf too, but it would be stupid not to mention illegal to use.

Here's an old fact sheet from the EPA about the lead ban.
 
2013-08-22 04:02:42 PM

Mr. Eugenides: TopoGigo: Mr. Eugenides: Lead solder hasn't been available for at least 30 years, it went out with lead paint.

Um, bullsh*t. 50/50 solder was easily available up to about 10 years ago. Some hillbillly supply houses will still sell it to you if you lie and say it's for your boiler pipes. (Although I have no clue where they're getting it.)

I suspect you're getting old like me and the years are starting to compress.  10 years ago was 2003.  Lead paint was banned in 1977 and at the same time they started to phase out lead solder in plumbing, it was effectively banned for potable water systems in 1986 (27 years ago).  I know of a local hardware store that's been family owned for a century that has a few spools of dusty lead solder on the shelf too, but it would be stupid not to mention illegal to use.

Here's an old fact sheet from the EPA about the lead ban.


Hm. That's definitely what your link says, banned by 86. I know for a fact I bought 50/50 solder in 2001 with no trouble though. In fact, I clearly remember it being hard to find map gas for the lead-free solder not much later than that.
 
2013-08-22 08:09:32 PM

oohpah: This is just great.  You print this article while my floor is torn up to remove galvanized and install copper.  Oh well, my little town was in Fark awhile back because of the uranium in the water. And the yearly water test shows copper in the water.  I'm farked no matter what and I'm typing this by telekinesis.


No no, it's all good. The uranium will cancel out the copper.
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