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(LA Times)   No more lead worries since you finally re-plumbed your house with copper. Get ready to do it again with...oh, hello...you seem nice. Do you like pizza? I had a cat once   (latimes.com) divider line 110
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2013-08-21 04:15:17 PM
Well I don't remember my name no more
Neither does my daddy or his daddy before
And Grandaddy thinks he's in the war
Korea, WWII...who can tell any more
He'd buy a hundred pounds of axle grease
Put it in the fridge and call the police.
Now the doctor said he couldn't drive no more,
He just called the doctor a whore
Don't know what it's called but I've been told
We've been spending too much time in front of the copper-top stove
 
2013-08-21 04:37:26 PM
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Find out how deep the rabbit hole goes...
 
2013-08-21 05:06:46 PM
I thought it was aluminum that caused Alzheimer's.

So, no aluminum pans, no aluminum foil, now no copper pans, copper pipes.

We've got to go 100% PVC for everything. OH wait...

/we're all gonna die
//is tin foil safe?
 
2013-08-21 05:14:24 PM

SecretAgentWoman: //is tin foil safe?


Of course not since they apparently don't make foil out of tin anymore.
 
2013-08-21 05:38:12 PM
I've been drinking water from copper pipes for years, and I'm fine
 
2013-08-21 05:39:44 PM
I've been drinking water from copper pipes for years, and I'm fine.

Why does this look so familiar?
 
2013-08-21 05:40:33 PM
just came in to say I've been drinking water from copper pipes for years, and I'm fine
 
2013-08-21 05:41:05 PM
just call over some meth addicts, they'll get that copper pipe out for you no problem
 
2013-08-21 05:44:19 PM
Aluminum wasn't safe but is safe again until it isn't, so, go long on Alcoa.  Or don't.
 
2013-08-21 05:44:51 PM
Who uses copper for their plumbing anymore? I use titanium.
 
2013-08-21 05:46:38 PM
My favorite pizza place has copper pipes because they claim it makes the dough taste better.  I personally think it's the billionty degrees the coal oven puts out.

/too good to stop eating
//Grimaldi's
 
2013-08-21 05:47:26 PM
I've been drinking copper for years, and I'm just fine.
 
2013-08-21 05:48:17 PM
PVC sure as hell isn't going to be safer.
 
2013-08-21 05:48:32 PM
pedobearapproved: I've been drinking water from copper pipes for years, and I'm fine.

Why does this look so familiar?


Its like Deja Vu all over again.
 
2013-08-21 05:49:57 PM
Someone's been using lead pipes?
 
2013-08-21 05:50:26 PM
i'm surprised they have used copper for so long. they switched from lead to copper because it kills you slower.
everyone knows if you put a fire to it, make that pipe out of brass.
 
2013-08-21 05:50:30 PM

AirForceVet: Who uses copper for their plumbing anymore? I use titanium.


PEX. Almost every new home built now uses PEX line. The line is pretty amazing, but if cheap fittings are used, the whole thing is trash. Don't skimp on the fittings.

www.modmyrv.com
 
2013-08-21 05:50:57 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I thought it was aluminum that caused Alzheimer's.


My thought as well, as having an aluminum pot/pan set was supposed to be one of the big signs of status in the 1920s/30s.  So, everyone who used those as kids is coming up with Alz now.

Wonder what bizarre ailments we Boomers will have from all the chemicals put into the market during the 1950s/60s/70s?  Guess those smelly hippies and their iron cookware might have been on to something.
 
2013-08-21 05:54:55 PM
Viaduct?
 
2013-08-21 05:55:03 PM

indy_kid: SecretAgentWoman: I thought it was aluminum that caused Alzheimer's.

My thought as well, as having an aluminum pot/pan set was supposed to be one of the big signs of status in the 1920s/30s.  So, everyone who used those as kids is coming up with Alz now.

Wonder what bizarre ailments we Boomers will have from all the chemicals put into the market during the 1950s/60s/70s?  Guess those smelly hippies and their iron cookware might have been on to something.



Myth 4: Drinking out of aluminum cans or cooking in aluminum pots and pans can lead to Alzheimer's disease.
Reality: During the 1960s and 1970s, aluminum emerged as a possible suspect in Alzheimer's. This suspicion led to concern about exposure to aluminum through everyday sources such as pots and pans, beverage cans, antacids and antiperspirants. Since then, studies have failed to confirm any role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer's. Experts today focus on other areas of research, and few believe that everyday sources of aluminum pose any threat.


http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_myths_about_alzheimers.asp
 
2013-08-21 05:56:24 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I thought it was aluminum that caused Alzheimer's.

So, no aluminum pans, no aluminum foil, now no copper pans, copper pipes.

We've got to go 100% PVC for everything. OH wait...

/we're all gonna die
//is tin foil safe?


Exactly.I have completely opted out of much of the main stream media (and I don't really like that term but I think it gets my point across) not because of political bias but for the constant ringing of the alarmist bell and shoddy science reporting.

My life is that little bit less stressful for not having the constant drone of "BAD shiat IS HAPPENING TO YOU AND YOUR KIDS" everyday.
 
2013-08-21 05:57:54 PM
I've been drinking out of copper for years, and I'm just fine
 
2013-08-21 05:58:28 PM
I've been drinking water from copper pipes for years, and I'm fine
 
2013-08-21 05:58:40 PM
The bad news is the copper has given me Alzheimers. The good news is I'll never suffer from the Alzheimers because I have cancer and six months to live.
 
2013-08-21 06:01:21 PM
Isn't the solder used lead??

Isn't the pipes coming up the street lead?
 
2013-08-21 06:03:29 PM

ElLoco: AirForceVet: Who uses copper for their plumbing anymore? I use titanium.

PEX. Almost every new home built now uses PEX line. The line is pretty amazing, but if cheap fittings are used, the whole thing is trash. Don't skimp on the fittings.

[www.modmyrv.com image 207x154]


Anytime I have to replace plumbing now, I use PEX. Couldn't be happier with it so far.
 
2013-08-21 06:04:16 PM
farm7.staticflickr.com
crap
 
2013-08-21 06:05:30 PM
Maybe I should stop replacing my (80 year old) rusted galvanized pipe with copper.  Or not, I kind of like the part where the new copper doesn't suddenly split open at 2 AM.
 
2013-08-21 06:05:53 PM
And yet just yesterday I read the same story, but they stated that there were other studies that says copper REDUCES the chance of getting Alzheimers.
And yeah, PVC sucks!
 
2013-08-21 06:07:59 PM
Why is this news in 2013? It wasn't news in 2004, when I co-authored a paper that reported similar results.
 
2013-08-21 06:09:31 PM
I wish alzheimers research could get more than just 1/10 the funding that HIV does. Despite having 500% more people in the U.S. with alzheimers vs. HIV, and no clear method of prevention for alzheimers (other than die young). Unfortunately our science is overly politicized.
 
2013-08-21 06:11:13 PM
I've been drinking for years, and the coppers keep giving me fines.
 
2013-08-21 06:11:13 PM

Broktun: Isn't the solder used lead??

Isn't the pipes coming up the street lead?


Lead solder hasn't been available for at least 30 years, it went out with lead paint.  If you need some I still have a spool though because, you never know when you'll need it!

Your water main in the street is almost certainly cast iron.  The pipe leading from the street to the house may be lead, but that went out in the 40s or 50s, so if your house was built after that it's most likely copper and not lead.  It's easy enough to tell what your water service is made from.  If it's copper colored, there's a good chance it's copper.  If it's gray and you can scratch it with your thumbnail it's probably lead.
 
2013-08-21 06:12:14 PM
I've got PVC from the street to my house and copper in the house. I'm done for either way.
 
2013-08-21 06:13:26 PM
Oh god, I just had a HORRIBLE thought!

www.examiner.com

ak1.picdn.net

beerlabels.com

I'm doomed, I tell you... DOOMED!
 
2013-08-21 06:18:20 PM
I don't have copper pipes, but at least I don't have copper pipes.
 
2013-08-21 06:21:31 PM
www.stencilrevolution.com
 
2013-08-21 06:22:05 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-21 06:28:40 PM
I discovered, that in the apartment I moved into about six months ago. That the cheap ass landlord didn't put in any, I mean ANY, absolutly no exageration, NONE, cut off valves, in the entire three apartment unit when he replaced all the pvc with PEX.
Found this out when a leak appeared in my kitchen ceiling. The fitting to my tub above started leaking. I got it to stop by pushing on it to reseat. Two days later it blew out. Had to cut water at the main in the basement to the entire building to stop the cascade of water flowing into my kitchen.
Turns out a simple fitting costs about $10 @ Walmart. A valve, costs about $15.
He ended up paying me $300 for damages to my property and about $700 to fix his property.
He admitted he wished he hadn't been so cheap. But now says he can't afford installing valves for at least another year.
 
2013-08-21 06:31:28 PM
As a plumber, this has always concerned me. However, many people have massive amounts of natural copper in their water, which dwarfs the amount leached by pipes. And let's face it, the water is probably more toxic than lead anyway

/ i breath in the smoke from this shiat at 750 degrees Fahrenheit every day
// get PEX, you'll thank yourself, and crackheads will stop breaking into your basement
/// if the crack heads steal your copper, give me a call
//// visa/mastercard/crack accepted
 
2013-08-21 06:31:43 PM

8Fingers: I discovered, that in the apartment I moved into about six months ago. That the cheap ass landlord didn't put in any, I mean ANY, absolutly no exageration, NONE, cut off valves, in the entire three apartment unit when he replaced all the pvc with PEX.
Found this out when a leak appeared in my kitchen ceiling. The fitting to my tub above started leaking. I got it to stop by pushing on it to reseat. Two days later it blew out. Had to cut water at the main in the basement to the entire building to stop the cascade of water flowing into my kitchen.
Turns out a simple fitting costs about $10 @ Walmart. A valve, costs about $15.
He ended up paying me $300 for damages to my property and about $700 to fix his property.
He admitted he wished he hadn't been so cheap. But now says he can't afford installing valves for at least another year.


And so the circle of fail continues....

/Sorry.
 
2013-08-21 06:34:40 PM

8Fingers: I discovered, that in the apartment I moved into about six months ago. That the cheap ass landlord didn't put in any, I mean ANY, absolutly no exageration, NONE, cut off valves, in the entire three apartment unit when he replaced all the pvc with PEX.
Found this out when a leak appeared in my kitchen ceiling. The fitting to my tub above started leaking. I got it to stop by pushing on it to reseat. Two days later it blew out. Had to cut water at the main in the basement to the entire building to stop the cascade of water flowing into my kitchen.
Turns out a simple fitting costs about $10 @ Walmart. A valve, costs about $15.
He ended up paying me $300 for damages to my property and about $700 to fix his property.
He admitted he wished he hadn't been so cheap. But now says he can't afford installing valves for at least another year.


This is very, very common.
A $40 distribution block would provide shutoffs for ten different zones.
 
2013-08-21 06:37:09 PM
Amos Quito:

[beerlabels.com image 800x600]

I'm doomed, I tell you... DOOMED!


If it settles your mind, just about any place that looks like that is for decoration only.
Local brew craft beer is quickly becoming a scam.
 
2013-08-21 06:38:42 PM
THIS JUST IN:

Everything is out to get you and something eventually will.
 
2013-08-21 06:40:29 PM

discgolfguru: ElLoco: AirForceVet: Who uses copper for their plumbing anymore? I use titanium.

PEX. Almost every new home built now uses PEX line. The line is pretty amazing, but if cheap fittings are used, the whole thing is trash. Don't skimp on the fittings.

[www.modmyrv.com image 207x154]

Anytime I have to replace plumbing now, I use PEX. Couldn't be happier with it so far.


Just avoid plastic fittings, they snap like pretzels. Also, PEX degrades in sunlight, so keep that in mind.
If anyone questions the strength of PEX, show them you can literally tow a car with the stuff.
 
2013-08-21 06:46:31 PM
Stainless steel is still alright, right?
 
2013-08-21 06:49:24 PM
I've been mining crackheads for copper for years and I'm still fine.
 
2013-08-21 06:49:43 PM

Dwindle: 8Fingers: I discovered, that in the apartment I moved into about six months ago. That the cheap ass landlord didn't put in any, I mean ANY, absolutly no exageration, NONE, cut off valves, in the entire three apartment unit when he replaced all the pvc with PEX.
Found this out when a leak appeared in my kitchen ceiling. The fitting to my tub above started leaking. I got it to stop by pushing on it to reseat. Two days later it blew out. Had to cut water at the main in the basement to the entire building to stop the cascade of water flowing into my kitchen.
Turns out a simple fitting costs about $10 @ Walmart. A valve, costs about $15.
He ended up paying me $300 for damages to my property and about $700 to fix his property.
He admitted he wished he hadn't been so cheap. But now says he can't afford installing valves for at least another year.

This is very, very common.
A $40 distribution block would provide shutoffs for ten different zones.


Link?
 
2013-08-21 06:50:57 PM

CruJones: My favorite pizza place has copper pipes because they claim it makes the dough taste better.  I personally think it's the billionty degrees the coal oven puts out.

/too good to stop eating
//Grimaldi's


That is actually the secret to New York style pizza. Aside from being slightly alkaline (acidic dough doesn't crisp or get the bagel like chewiness) it has high levels of natural copper.

And yes, only extremely dry, non convection heat makes that characteristic blistering on the bottom of the dough.

Life is about priorities, and if you know New York pizza, you know where your priorities stand.
 
2013-08-21 06:53:08 PM
Pretty much everyone is using pex now.  No more hard lines.
 
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