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(The Register)   Headline: "Brazilians tear strip off NSA in wake of Snowden." I blame Bush   (theregister.co.uk) divider line 31
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vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-21 11:43:28 AM
As far as I can tell, the only countries that don't do something like that are either too small or too poor to have an intelligence service.
 
2013-08-21 11:49:56 AM
"We have concerns with the [possible] changes, such as requiring the maintenance of data in Brazil," said Bruno Magrani, head of public policy at Facebook Brazil, according to the report. "This requirement would entail huge costs and inefficiencies in online business in the country, it will impact small and new technology companies that want to provide services to Brazilians."

Then maybe, just maybe, you should have struggled a little bit when the NSA was raping your data farm.

This is just getting started.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-21 11:55:50 AM

Marcus Aurelius: "We have concerns with the [possible] changes, such as requiring the maintenance of data in Brazil," said Bruno Magrani, head of public policy at Facebook Brazil, according to the report. "This requirement would entail huge costs and inefficiencies in online business in the country, it will impact small and new technology companies that want to provide services to Brazilians."

Then maybe, just maybe, you should have struggled a little bit when the NSA was raping your data farm.


They should have demanded that the government provide the data-center to store all this like in the US.
 
2013-08-21 12:45:55 PM
Please, someone begin waxing. My lunch is nearly over.
 
2013-08-21 12:46:04 PM
This is a bald lie!
 
2013-08-21 12:46:31 PM
Nice work from the boys at the Register.
 
2013-08-21 12:48:21 PM
I bet authorities snatch up those fellas.
 
2013-08-21 12:53:02 PM
I'm sure the gross misuse of extraordinary powers supposedly to be used only in the name of preventing terrorism against one of their citizens didn't have anything to do with this at all.

On the good side, we now have all the ammo we need to prove that the Patriot Act in the US and even worse acts in the UK need to be repealed.
 
2013-08-21 12:55:01 PM
So let me get this straight... no server in Brazil is allowed to store user data? Oh, that's perfectly workable! And how, pray tell, does the shipping department access the user's cookies when the need to know what address to send the order to?
 
2013-08-21 12:58:33 PM
The Brazilians don't want anyone to mess with their big booty of internet data.
 
2013-08-21 01:02:26 PM
Came for NSFW links, leaving this NSFW link.

/get busy, dudes
 
2013-08-21 01:07:52 PM

Evil Twin Skippy: So let me get this straight... no Only a server in Brazil is allowed to store a Brazilian's user data?


If you want to do business in their nation, you have to store their citizen's data on severs within the bounds of their nation.
 
2013-08-21 01:11:48 PM

Evil Twin Skippy: So let me get this straight... no server in Brazil is allowed to store user data? Oh, that's perfectly workable! And how, pray tell, does the shipping department access the user's cookies when the need to know what address to send the order to?


Uh...No.They're apparently looking into legislation that requires all information collected about Brazilian citizens to be stored only on servers located in Brazil.Sounds like hell in the making for the militant Brazilian MMO crowd that's always hitting up North American game servers.
 
2013-08-21 01:14:55 PM

Evil Twin Skippy: So let me get this straight... no server in Brazil is allowed to store user data? Oh, that's perfectly workable! And how, pray tell, does the shipping department access the user's cookies when the need to know what address to send the order to?


Wow - all that jumping to conclusions with your eyes closed must be great for your ass muscles.

How the hell did you come to your conclusion from the article ? That is impressively stupid.
 
2013-08-21 01:27:14 PM

wambu: Came for NSFW links, leaving this NSFW link.

/get busy, dudes


That is where I had hoped this thread would go
 
2013-08-21 01:54:05 PM
When things get too hairy, you can always count on the Brazilians!

/ouch.
 
2013-08-21 02:00:06 PM

monoski: wambu: Came for NSFW links, leaving this NSFW link.

/get busy, dudes

That is where I had hoped this thread would go


And a red head to boot! Bless you, kind sir!
 
2013-08-21 02:14:19 PM
I'm looking to eventually move there. Looks like I may have to move up my timeline.
 
2013-08-21 03:26:42 PM

wambu: Came for NSFW links, leaving this NSFW link.

/get busy, dudes


That's a landing strip

This is a Brazilian

and this

and this

all VERY NSFW obviously
 
2013-08-21 03:33:36 PM
so if I have a Brazilian friend on Facebook, I have to go to a separate Brazilian Facebook site to see his stuff, or does my computer just have to make AJAX calls overseas?

I don't really see this being feasible to implement.
 
2013-08-21 03:49:12 PM

serial_crusher: so if I have a Brazilian friend on Facebook, I have to go to a separate Brazilian Facebook site to see his stuff, or does my computer just have to make AJAX calls overseas?

I don't really see this being feasible to implement.


Facebook already has server farms spread out across the globe.

Why would putting one in Brazil be any different?
 
2013-08-21 03:58:20 PM
I am dissapoint of the lack of pictures in this thread.
 
2013-08-21 04:05:53 PM

BullBearMS: serial_crusher: so if I have a Brazilian friend on Facebook, I have to go to a separate Brazilian Facebook site to see his stuff, or does my computer just have to make AJAX calls overseas?

I don't really see this being feasible to implement.

Facebook already has server farms spread out across the globe.

Why would putting one in Brazil be any different?


Performance.  When I pull up my page from a PC in Texas, I don't make requests to South America, Europe, Asia, etc, etc.  Facebook doesn't (necessarily) either.  It would take minutes for the page to load instead of milliseconds.

The way it works now is roughly:
- user in brazil makes a wall post
- user's computer connects to brazillian server and uploads data to it
- brazilian server replicates data to US server
- user in US loads his facebook
- user's computer connects to US server and queries it for info
- US server returns relevant info (including the post that originated in brazil)

That's oversimplified, but sufficient explanation of what's going on here.
If I'm interpreting this article right, that architecture wouldn't be allowed anymore, since it necessarily requires data about a brazillian user to reside on a US server.
 
2013-08-21 04:11:54 PM

serial_crusher: Performance.


Then it will be slower, or Facebook can pull out of Brazil.

Frankly, given the modern reality of Corporate ownership of politicians, one of the best things people outside the US can do to put an end to international NSA abuses is boycott American internet companies and develop their own local alternatives.

When Facebook, Google, Apple, et al. start losing massive amounts of money, they will bring their pet politicians to heel.
 
2013-08-21 04:29:43 PM

BullBearMS: serial_crusher: Performance.

Then it will be slower, or Facebook can pull out of Brazil.

Frankly, given the modern reality of Corporate ownership of politicians, one of the best things people outside the US can do to put an end to international NSA abuses is boycott American internet companies and develop their own local alternatives.

When Facebook, Google, Apple, et al. start losing massive amounts of money, they will bring their pet politicians to heel.


I guess, but it'll get a lot worse before it gets better if that trend catches on.
Users and smaller companies are the ones that will get hurt.  Facebook can afford a few extra bucks to shard Brazil off.
I doubt my company could muster up the budget to open a new datacenter in Brazil, so we'd be forced to just not operate there.  I don't think we'd lose any current customers that way, but it could prevent a sale later on.  Facebook and their pet politicians won't care.
 
2013-08-21 04:32:55 PM

Banned on the Run: wambu: Came for NSFW links, leaving this NSFW link.

/get busy, dudes

That's a landing strip

This is a Brazilian

and this

and this

all VERY NSFW obviously


I stand corrected. But I may need additional visual aids to fully understand to nuances.
 
2013-08-21 04:47:56 PM
 
2013-08-21 05:06:14 PM
That many huh?
 
2013-08-21 05:08:36 PM
That many?
 
2013-08-21 08:35:00 PM
They do have a mound of evidence.
 
2013-08-22 04:02:29 AM
Damn
 
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