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2013-08-21 11:38:55 AM  
And they are all named "Max Peck"
 
2013-08-21 11:46:17 AM  
Which one will Tom Hanks be playing?
 
2013-08-21 12:00:52 PM  
I can definitely tell they have a Mathematician, a Statistician, and a different kind of Mathematician...
 
2013-08-21 12:10:26 PM  
Can they possibly resist the maddening urge to eradicate history at the mere push of a single button? The beautiful, shiny button? The jolly, candy-like button?
 
2013-08-21 12:34:32 PM  
I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's an astronaut covered in goslings.


www.nsf.gov


/Jessica Meir
 
2013-08-21 12:39:00 PM  
I see they have Token Black. That's nice.
 
2013-08-21 12:41:22 PM  
God speed.


When are they debuting the flight suit? They need a really spiffy flight suit.
 
2013-08-21 01:32:08 PM  

Sybarite: I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's an astronaut covered in goslings.


[www.nsf.gov image 850x637]


/Jessica Meir


Pretty lady. I wonder if she juggles.
 
2013-08-21 01:34:21 PM  
Looks like a great group of actors.
 
2013-08-21 01:36:16 PM  
If they were the Gary 7 they would get there faster.
 
2013-08-21 01:38:00 PM  
Aren't they going to be too old by the time a Mars mission actually happens? It's, like, at least 20 years away and that's being optimistic.
 
2013-08-21 01:38:50 PM  

Two Dogs Farking: I see they have Token Black. That's nice.


they farked that up....should have just had one of the chicks be black

oh and the Nasa Administrator probably knows more about racism that most Farkers...
 
2013-08-21 01:39:09 PM  
They all better stop aging now, considering what a long way we are from being ready to send them.

Or did someone come up with a way to sheild against solar radiation already?
 
2013-08-21 01:41:31 PM  

Two Dogs Farking: I see they have Token Black. That's nice.



Compared to the historical percentage of black astronauts (something like 5%), 1/8 (12%) is an improvement.
 
2013-08-21 01:42:16 PM  
No Asians? I think the lady in the red blazer might be Hispanic.
 
2013-08-21 01:43:59 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: God speed.


When are they debuting the flight suit? They need a really spiffy flight suit.


What I saw wasn't all that spiffy looking.  Functional is functional...and usually not pretty.
 
2013-08-21 01:48:46 PM  

XMark: Aren't they going to be too old by the time a Mars mission actually happens? It's, like, at least 20 years away and that's being optimistic.


Really?  If Kerbal Space Program has taught me anything, it's that you can get anywhere if you slap enough solid rocket boosters together.  Shouldn't take that long.
 
2013-08-21 01:50:34 PM  
www.franceinfo.fr

"They said is was going to Mars but all I got was this lousy asteroid"
 
2013-08-21 01:50:58 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Someone familiar with long-endurance missions.
 
2013-08-21 01:54:08 PM  

Vectron: No Asians? I think the lady in the red blazer might be Hispanic.


NASA must have figured that a mixed-sex, mixed-race crew stuck in a tin can for a couple years might get boring without a little Latin drama
 
2013-08-21 01:54:47 PM  
It looks like they got Amy Farrah Fowler in ther too.
 
2013-08-21 01:57:03 PM  
OK.  Year in and year out congress is going to approve all of their budgets.  Maybe their kids or grandkids get to go, but not these ones.  These 8 are gonna be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dogshiat out of Hong Kong.
 
2013-08-21 01:59:16 PM  
Hope they have about 3 feet of lead surrounding them for the trip.
 
2013-08-21 02:07:40 PM  
Maybe their kids will go, but no way these people will.  They'll all be octogenarians by that time.
 
2013-08-21 02:08:10 PM  
As much as I think it would be better and cheaper to send robots to do this job, damn if I wouldn't love to see Mars in person, even from orbit.
 
2013-08-21 02:10:29 PM  
FTA: According to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, "they not only have the right stuff... they represent the full tapestry of America."

Yes.  The full tapestry.  Provided you're only using six or seven white threads and one black thread.  Mayyybe a tan thread IF the red-jacketed woman is Hispanic.  No yellow or red threads though.

/that'sracist.jpg
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2013-08-21 02:12:03 PM  

lostcat: Or did someone come up with a way to sheild against solar radiation already?


It's been taken care of
modculture.typepad.com
 
2013-08-21 02:13:11 PM  

Deep Contact: Hope they have about 3 feet of lead surrounding them for the trip.


I expect they'll use a lot of water for shielding.  Unless we develop some really long-lived recycling systems, they're gonna need it anyway.
 
2013-08-21 02:18:21 PM  

DocTravesty: Deep Contact: Hope they have about 3 feet of lead surrounding them for the trip.

I expect they'll use a lot of water for shielding.  Unless we develop some really long-lived recycling systems, they're gonna need it anyway.


Intredasting. What does that do, create hydrogen gas bubbles?
 
2013-08-21 02:20:00 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-08-21 02:23:25 PM  
not impressed...

www.wearysloth.com
 
2013-08-21 02:25:55 PM  

XMark: Aren't they going to be too old by the time a Mars mission actually happens? It's, like, at least 20 years away and that's being optimistic.


People said the same thing about the moon when Kennedy made his speech in '61, and we'd barely started putting satellites in our own orbit. Eight years later there were two men standing on it.

lostcat: They all better stop aging now, considering what a long way we are from being ready to send them.

Or did someone come up with a way to sheild against solar radiation already?


We have ways, it's a matter of balancing weight vs. expense for an effective system. It could be as simple as a layer of water sandwiched in the fuselage. I've also seen proposals that incorporate liquefied solid waste in such a system. Use it or lose it, as it were.

brimed03: FTA: According to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, "they not only have the right stuff... they represent the full tapestry of America."

Yes.  The full tapestry.  Provided you're only using six or seven white threads and one black thread.  Mayyybe a tan thread IF the red-jacketed woman is Hispanic.  No yellow or red threads though.

/that'sracist.jpg
//so'sthis.jpg


I'm sure with a pool 6100 potentials, "color" was a deciding factor when choosing a group with the right technical/scientific backgrounds and skillsets.

/thrilled that we finally got a sequel to the Mercury Seven
//sad that people are more hung up on race than what this means for the future of manned flight
 
2013-08-21 02:26:02 PM  
The Seattle 7 reported to be inconsolable.

www.historylink.org

/ 10 points if you can identify Jeff
 
2013-08-21 02:33:42 PM  

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: //sad that people are more hung up on race than what this means for the future of manned flight


It is a progressive world, quotas  must be filled.
 
2013-08-21 02:37:46 PM  
The lady in the red jacket will be the first to die.
 
2013-08-21 02:39:20 PM  

Deep Contact: Hope they have about 3 feet of lead surrounding them for the trip.


You know what?

I'd go, even without adequate shielding.  Place in the history books, and all that.

I'm not suicidal or anything, but it'd be worth it.
 
2013-08-21 02:46:28 PM  
I read that as "The Onion 8" and was expecting something a little different.....
 
2013-08-21 02:47:00 PM  

PunGent: Deep Contact: Hope they have about 3 feet of lead surrounding them for the trip.

You know what?

I'd go, even without adequate shielding.  Place in the history books, and all that.

I'm not suicidal or anything, but it'd be worth it.


This. I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day about the one-way Mars One campaign. I'd go. History will remember the first person to die on another planet.
 
2013-08-21 02:47:33 PM  
I'll put money on the fact that more than 50% of them will be dead/retired before the USA has a serious manned program and not one of them leaves LEO.
 
2013-08-21 02:47:59 PM  

papajoefong: The lady in the red jacket will be the first to die.


i bet they stock the spacecraft with chianti
 
2013-08-21 02:50:07 PM  
If Hollywood has taught us anything it is that these people will never see Mars firsthand.  That work will fall instead to the expendable army of clones that are soon to be fashioned from their genetic material.

jto.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-08-21 02:54:02 PM  

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: People said the same thing about the moon when Kennedy made his speech in '61, and we'd barely started putting satellites in our own orbit. Eight years later there were two men standing on it.


The Difference is we had motivation to get to the moon before those damn commies! We were in an arms race, and getting to the moon was part of securing the high ground and proving our superiority. Once we did that we stopped and did flights around low earth orbit for almost 30 years and cut NASA's budget. Which is important to note because NASA's budget for Apollo varied from 2 to 4 percent. NASA's budget now as a percentage of the budget? 0.47 percent and its suppose to be even less next year.

Look, I want Orion and SLS to fly I just think its ridiculous to think that these eight will actually fly when we have no agreed mission for Orion/SLS. We are building Orion/SLS mainly to keep shuttle contractors happy, beyond that we have no well planed goal. Well, the President has his capture an asteroid idea and then eventually Mars. Congress isn't keen on funding that idea, so eh. Indeed, Orion/SLS are being squeezed thanks to this retarded sequester. So whether both fly before they're canceled is anyone's guess.

Plus, anyone who thinks we're actually serious about this is kidding themselves. If we were it wouldn't take 16 years of development for Orion/SLS to fly. Compare that to the 9 years it took to develop shuttle, and the 7 years it took to develop Apollo. Orion wont fly until 2021, and that's just a earth orbit mission. Who knows when the first mission beyond low earth orbit will be.

So I'm putting my hope in Space X. They already have a working spacecraft that is capable of going to Mars. Maybe Musk will have brought the cost of putting humans into space by that time as that is his goal eventually with Grasshopper. Overall his approach seems to be the most sensible as far as money, time, and engineering goes. Maybe the government will come to its senses by then and realize they have a perfectly capable spacecraft already in their use by that time. Or not. >.>
 
2013-08-21 03:01:27 PM  
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2013-08-21 03:01:40 PM  

bbfreak: Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: People said the same thing about the moon when Kennedy made his speech in '61, and we'd barely started putting satellites in our own orbit. Eight years later there were two men standing on it.

The Difference is we had motivation to get to the moon before those damn commies! We were in an arms race, and getting to the moon was part of securing the high ground and proving our superiority. Once we did that we stopped and did flights around low earth orbit for almost 30 years and cut NASA's budget. Which is important to note because NASA's budget for Apollo varied from 2 to 4 percent. NASA's budget now as a percentage of the budget? 0.47 percent and its suppose to be even less next year.

Look, I want Orion and SLS to fly I just think its ridiculous to think that these eight will actually fly when we have no agreed mission for Orion/SLS. We are building Orion/SLS mainly to keep shuttle contractors happy, beyond that we have no well planed goal. Well, the President has his capture an asteroid idea and then eventually Mars. Congress isn't keen on funding that idea, so eh. Indeed, Orion/SLS are being squeezed thanks to this retarded sequester. So whether both fly before they're canceled is anyone's guess.

Plus, anyone who thinks we're actually serious about this is kidding themselves. If we were it wouldn't take 16 years of development for Orion/SLS to fly. Compare that to the 9 years it took to develop shuttle, and the 7 years it took to develop Apollo. Orion wont fly until 2021, and that's just a earth orbit mission. Who knows when the first mission beyond low earth orbit will be.

So I'm putting my hope in Space X. They already have a working spacecraft that is capable of going to Mars. Maybe Musk will have brought the cost of putting humans into space by that time as that is his goal eventually with Grasshopper. Overall his approach seems to be the most sensible as far as money, time, and engineering goes. Maybe the gover ...


I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it can given the right motivation. Which is why I'm kind of happy we're back to butting heads with Russia. Perhaps some good will come of it. And with NASA being late to the party these days vs. what the private spaceflight industry is doing, it bodes well for all involved parties.
 
2013-08-21 03:02:01 PM  
An earth orbit mission with humans I should add. Just in case anyone feels the need to correct me and go. Technically Orion will fly in 2014! Yes, I know that, and am looking forward to that despite my criticism of the the Orion/SLS program. That will be an unmanned mission, and the manned mission wont be until SLS is ready. Which wont be until 2021.

Also, I was wrong and must correct myself in one respect. It wont be an earth orbit that Orion's first crew is launched toward. It'll instead be a high orbit around the moon. My mistake.
 
2013-08-21 03:02:44 PM  

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: brimed03: FTA: According to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, "they not only have the right stuff... they represent the full tapestry of America."  Yes.  The full tapestry.  Provided you're only using six or seven white threads and one black thread.  Mayyybe a tan thread IF the red-jacketed woman is Hispanic.  No yellow or red threads though.

I'm sure with a pool 6100 potentials, "color" was a deciding factor when choosing a group with the right technical/scientific backgrounds and skillsets.


With 6,100 potentials, selecting balance of race as well as gender while still getting the needed sci-tech skills should absolutely be possible.  And important both symbolically and practically; or don't you think astronauts serve as inspirations and role models to kids?  Often they need to see someone who looks like them for it to click hey, maybe I can do this too!

But at the very least-- and my original point-- don't CLAIM to have a representative group of Americans when you clearly don't.
 
2013-08-21 03:10:21 PM  
12 hundred gabilion dollar project and the Orion 8 is what they come up with? Sounds more like a winning lottery team.
 
2013-08-21 03:14:16 PM  

brimed03: But at the very least-- and my original point-- don't CLAIM to have a representative group of Americans when you clearly don't.



So your are saying it should be an out off work black guy, a jewish lawyer and itialian pizzaria owner, some stoned kid, an overly tatted and pierced girl,Honey Boo Boo, a mexican day worker and a Trans Gender biracial liberal?
 
2013-08-21 03:35:29 PM  

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it can given the right motivation. Which is why I'm kind of happy we're back to butting heads with Russia. Perhaps some good will come of it. And with NASA being late to the party these days vs. what the private spaceflight industry is doing, it bodes well for all involved parties.


I wouldn't look to Russia btw for any major development. Despite the quarreling with them right now, NASA & Russia still have a strong partnership when it comes to space launches. We give them money, and they have a reason to keep launching Soyuz because of ISS. As far as I know they still don't have a viable Soyuz replacement, and honestly their space program is worse off than ours despite the modest increase of their budget. If I was a betting man, I'd say that China will soon become the number 2 space power behind the United States in the next 20 years.

Which is going to leave Russia in a bad position honestly. Customers are going to choose Musk and the Chinese more over the Russians and maybe even the Europeans or India. Anyway, I guess we'll see if Russia is capable of staying relevant as far as space launches go after 2021. Should be interesting at least as things get crowded.
 
2013-08-21 03:42:17 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Can they possibly resist the maddening urge to eradicate history at the mere push of a single button? The beautiful, shiny button? The jolly, candy-like button?


SPACE MADNESS!
 
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