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(New York Daily News)   9/11 defendant Ramzi Binalshibh proves the US has been torturing him most grievously by withholding olives and honey from his meals   (nydailynews.com) divider line 48
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2013-08-21 11:47:11 AM  
With helpful pics of what olives and honey might look like.
 
2013-08-21 11:55:31 AM  
With helpful pics of what an asshole looks like
 
2013-08-21 12:09:49 PM  
Sounds like he and his fellow Gitmo inmates are being given better quality food than you normally see in most US prisons & jails.
 
2013-08-21 12:34:16 PM  
So we can give these guys a real trial and normal prison food.

Or we can pretend to create a whole new judicial system that exists outside the real one, a new prison system that exists outside the real one, a new set of procedures which just have to be invented on the spot, and then listen to circus show shiat like this while they drag things out forever.
 
2013-08-21 12:55:08 PM  
Fresh ground pepper?  Bottled or tap?  More coffee?
 
2013-08-21 01:06:56 PM  
This story smells heavily of propaganda.  While he is a criminal and I think he should rot, this is more to take away the focus of actual torture that goes on.
 
2013-08-21 01:38:15 PM  
I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?
 
2013-08-21 01:38:51 PM  
I love the new Daily News format of two sentences, giant farking picture, two sentences, giant farking picture, repeat.

How the hell are you supposed to read an article like that?
 
2013-08-21 01:40:17 PM  
Even worse, we took away his binky.
 
2013-08-21 01:42:21 PM  

Rand's lacy underwear: So we can give these guys a real trial and normal prison food.

Or we can pretend to create a whole new judicial system that exists outside the real one, a new prison system that exists outside the real one, a new set of procedures which just have to be invented on the spot, and then listen to circus show shiat like this while they drag things out forever.


There are already three systems. The normal court system, the military court system and the super secret NSA court system.

/ personally; I think they should just drag the guys in gitmo behind a shed and get it over with. We'll never try them in open court and we'll never let them all go.
 
2013-08-21 01:43:43 PM  

Makh: This story smells heavily of propaganda.  While he is a criminal and I think he should rot, this is more to take away the focus of actual torture that goes on.


also what kind of mind rot can set in due to "interrogation"

but wait theres more
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38735351/ns/us_news-security/t/interrogati on -tapes-found-under-desk/   (<----really)

More significantly to his defense, the tapes also could provide evidence of Binalshibh's mental state within the first months of his capture. In court documents, defense lawyers have been asking for medical records to see whether Binalshibh's years in CIA custody made him mentally unstable. He is being treated for schizophrenia with a potent cocktail of anti-psychotic medications.
 
2013-08-21 01:44:20 PM  
Here.
a.abcnews.go.com
Now shuddup.
 
2013-08-21 01:44:30 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?


Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Makh: This story smells heavily of propaganda.  While he is a criminal and I think he should rot, this is more to take away the focus of actual torture that goes on.


Nobody's been tortured at Gitmo since the first Bush administration. They pretty much shut that whole thing down after Abu Ghraib. Also, he's been convicted of nothing; he's a detainee awaiting trial, not a convicted criminal.
 
2013-08-21 01:44:54 PM  
No one will ever guess his name on Wheel Of Fortune.
 
2013-08-21 01:45:34 PM  

iheartscotch: Rand's lacy underwear: So we can give these guys a real trial and normal prison food.

Or we can pretend to create a whole new judicial system that exists outside the real one, a new prison system that exists outside the real one, a new set of procedures which just have to be invented on the spot, and then listen to circus show shiat like this while they drag things out forever.

There are already three systems. The normal court system, the military court system and the super secret NSA court system.

/ personally; I think they should just drag the guys in gitmo behind a shed and get it over with. We'll never try them in open court and we'll never let them all go.


sadly - yes
(side note (concerns that detainees had been radicalized by the interrogation recieved))
 
2013-08-21 01:46:03 PM  
Oh, I would so farking put a plate of olives and a jar of honey just out of his reach near his cell every farking day if I were in charge there...
 
2013-08-21 01:46:12 PM  
Popeye frowns on his attempts at conjugal visits. An biffs that palooka. fs
 
2013-08-21 01:48:07 PM  

bindlestiff2600: iheartscotch: Rand's lacy underwear: So we can give these guys a real trial and normal prison food.

Or we can pretend to create a whole new judicial system that exists outside the real one, a new prison system that exists outside the real one, a new set of procedures which just have to be invented on the spot, and then listen to circus show shiat like this while they drag things out forever.

There are already three systems. The normal court system, the military court system and the super secret NSA court system.

/ personally; I think they should just drag the guys in gitmo behind a shed and get it over with. We'll never try them in open court and we'll never let them all go.

sadly - yes
(side note (concerns that detainees had been radicalized by the interrogation recieved))


We should just let them go; release them to their home countries, where they will be instantly shot or imprisoned in far worse conditions than Gitmo. Then we don't have to justify detention without trial. Even if they rejoin Al Qaeda, who cares? There are something like 10,000 active Al Qaeda members; a couple hundred more (especially ones we can trace and tail) would decrease U.S. security exactly zero percent.
 
2013-08-21 01:49:41 PM  
toothpicks. if i was 20 years younger i could kill everyone in the bay with them and make my escape. your feeble mind can't comprehend.
 
2013-08-21 01:54:05 PM  

mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.


Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0
 
2013-08-21 01:55:12 PM  
img.cdandlp.com
 
2013-08-21 02:01:41 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Sounds like he and his fellow Gitmo inmates are being given better quality food than you normally see in most US prisons & jails.


I always order the kosher meal on flights and at county lockup.
 
2013-08-21 02:08:32 PM  

mbillips: Nobody's been tortured at Gitmo since the first Bush administration. They pretty much shut that whole thing down after Abu Ghraib. Also, he's been convicted of nothing; he's a detainee awaiting trial, not a convicted criminal.


Yeah, so when ARE we going to have those trials, anyway? I want to hear why he's one of the "worst of the worst" and exactly where he was captured on the "field of battle." I hope it doesn't come out that we actually paid bounties of up to $5,000 for each of these guys because any defense lawyer might immediately point out why giving 5,000 bucks to a nomad who you will never see again is a really stupid idea.
 
2013-08-21 02:09:07 PM  
I guess this is the detainee version of the chunky-peanut butter lawsuit.
 
2013-08-21 02:10:01 PM  

urbangirl: mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0


It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.
 
2013-08-21 02:10:35 PM  
I vote we send him bacon.
 
2013-08-21 02:10:44 PM  

Makh: This story smells heavily of propaganda.  While he is a criminal and I think he should rot, this is more to take away the focus of actual torture that goes on.


It's not torture if it's being done by someone powerful.
 
2013-08-21 02:15:11 PM  
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AverageAmericanGuy: urbangirl: mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0

It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.


Well that's funny you should say that. You know who lost all the seats for the Democrats in 2010? The Blue Dogs. So now that the Conservatives are out, we can finally get some unity.
 
2013-08-21 02:17:29 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: \AverageAmericanGuy: urbangirl: mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0

It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.

Well that's funny you should say that. You know who lost all the seats for the Democrats in 2010? The Blue Dogs. So now that the Conservatives are out, we can finally get some unity.


Farking hivemind liberals. So much for the Democrat "big tent" fiction.
 
2013-08-21 02:30:09 PM  
They say "defendant" like this guy's getting a trial or something.
 
2013-08-21 02:34:30 PM  

NutWrench: mbillips: Nobody's been tortured at Gitmo since the first Bush administration. They pretty much shut that whole thing down after Abu Ghraib. Also, he's been convicted of nothing; he's a detainee awaiting trial, not a convicted criminal.

Yeah, so when ARE we going to have those trials, anyway? I want to hear why he's one of the "worst of the worst" and exactly where he was captured on the "field of battle." I hope it doesn't come out that we actually paid bounties of up to $5,000 for each of these guys because any defense lawyer might immediately point out why giving 5,000 bucks to a nomad who you will never see again is a really stupid idea.


This particular guy? Right now. They're scheduled to start the actual court trial in September 2014. I'm not in any way defending Gitmo or the military tribunal process, but there's no reason to lie about Gitmo. It's bad enough as it is. The idea that we would acquit some of these guys, or refuse to try them because the evidence is tainted, and STILL hold them is about as un-American a policy as you could ever invent. It's a Bastille, full stop.
 
2013-08-21 02:40:46 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: PC LOAD LETTER: \AverageAmericanGuy: urbangirl: mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0

It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.

Well that's funny you should say that. You know who lost all the seats for the Democrats in 2010? The Blue Dogs. So now that the Conservatives are out, we can finally get some unity.

Farking hivemind liberals. So much for the Democrat "big tent" fiction.


Not bad. 7/10. I like the complete 180 spin from your last post. Still, it's a little predictable.
 
2013-08-21 02:43:24 PM  
Very quick and dirty... like a martini.
s23.postimg.org
 
2013-08-21 02:43:58 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: PC LOAD LETTER: \AverageAmericanGuy: urbangirl: mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0

It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.

Well that's funny you should say that. You know who lost all the seats for the Democrats in 2010? The Blue Dogs. So now that the Conservatives are out, we can finally get some unity.

Farking hivemind liberals. So much for the Democrat "big tent" fiction.


I got a big tent, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2013-08-21 02:44:43 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: AverageAmericanGuy: PC LOAD LETTER: \AverageAmericanGuy: urbangirl: mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0

It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.

Well that's funny you should say that. You know who lost all the seats for the Democrats in 2010? The Blue Dogs. So now that the Conservatives are out, we can finally get some unity.

Farking hivemind liberals. So much for the Democrat "big tent" fiction.

I got a big tent, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.


You shop at Dick's Sporting Goods?
 
2013-08-21 02:50:54 PM  
Nothing like Gitmo articles to highlight how completely different reporting is under President Obama.

/under Bush, the only people who mocked the Gitmo inmates' demands were Cox & Forkum
 
2013-08-21 02:52:57 PM  

mbillips: but there's no reason to lie about Gitmo. It's bad enough as it is. The idea that we would acquit some of these guys, or refuse to try them because the evidence is tainted, and STILL hold them is about as un-American a policy as you could ever invent. It's a Bastille, full stop.


Or perhaps all this stalling over giving detainees their day in court is because the government has no farking evidence at all beyond the word of the "witnesses" who handed them over for cash, and who can no longer be located. Having that come out in court would be rather embarrassing, not just for Bush or Obama but for the bed-wetters in Congress who helped create this travesty and continue to perpetuate it.

"How was it possible that hundreds of Guantanamo prisoners were innocent? Wilkerson said it all started at the beginning, mostly because U.S. forces did not capture most of the people who were sent to Guantanamo. The people who ended up in Guantanamo, said Wilkerson, were mostly turned over to the US by Afghan warlords and others who received bounties of up to $5000 per head for each person they turned in. The majority of the 742 detainees "had never seen a U.S. soldier in the process of their initial detention."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/bush-insider-reveals-guan _b _544030.html


Unknown to most Americans are the circumstances surrounding the original capture of most detainees. During a March 28 interview, Nancy Talanian of No More Guantanamos told AFP, "The majority of prisoners are there because they were sold for bounties under false pretenses. After 9-11, the Bush administration dropped leaflets in Afghanistan and Pakistan offering a $5,000 bounty for information regarding terrorists, so people turned in complete strangers to get the money. Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharaf bragged that the U.S. handed over millions under this program."

Obviously, these men don't represent the world's "worst of the worst" terrorists as is often claimed. Military tribunals have only led to seven convictions, while approximately 600 were eventually released without charges. In a March 24 interview, Lt. Col. Barry Wingard, a U.S. military attorney who advocates for Guantanamo detainees, told AFP, "90 percent of [inmates] have no charges against them . . . the vast majority of people at Gitmo are cleared to go home."


http://americanfreepress.net/?p=9640
 
2013-08-21 02:58:19 PM  

NutWrench: mbillips: but there's no reason to lie about Gitmo. It's bad enough as it is. The idea that we would acquit some of these guys, or refuse to try them because the evidence is tainted, and STILL hold them is about as un-American a policy as you could ever invent. It's a Bastille, full stop.

Or perhaps all this stalling over giving detainees their day in court is because the government has no farking evidence at all beyond the word of the "witnesses" who handed them over for cash, and who can no longer be located. Having that come out in court would be rather embarrassing, not just for Bush or Obama but for the bed-wetters in Congress who helped create this travesty and continue to perpetuate it.

"How was it possible that hundreds of Guantanamo prisoners were innocent? Wilkerson said it all started at the beginning, mostly because U.S. forces did not capture most of the people who were sent to Guantanamo. The people who ended up in Guantanamo, said Wilkerson, were mostly turned over to the US by Afghan warlords and others who received bounties of up to $5000 per head for each person they turned in. The majority of the 742 detainees "had never seen a U.S. soldier in the process of their initial detention."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/bush-insider-reveals-guan _b _544030.html


Unknown to most Americans are the circumstances surrounding the original capture of most detainees. During a March 28 interview, Nancy Talanian of No More Guantanamos told AFP, "The majority of prisoners are there because they were sold for bounties under false pretenses. After 9-11, the Bush administration dropped leaflets in Afghanistan and Pakistan offering a $5,000 bounty for information regarding terrorists, so people turned in complete strangers to get the money. Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharaf bragged that the U.S. handed over millions under this program."

Obviously, these men don't represent the world's "worst of the worst" terrorists as is often claimed. Mili ...


They've cut loose most of the kidnapped goatherds, and the ones who are still being held are dealing with refugee/passport issues or other red tape from their home country before being released. I'm just talking about the guys they actually believe are baddies, which is a few dozen.  There's been talk that Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and the rest of the "core" AQ detainees would be held indefinitely, regardless of the military tribunal verdict.
 
2013-08-21 03:11:53 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: urbangirl: mbillips: AverageAmericanGuy: I thought we shut down Guantanamo. Wasn't that one of Obama's campaign promises?

Guess what? When it comes to Gitmo detainees, Americans are big weeping vaginas who would rather have a gulag run on their behalf than have the prisoners on U.S. soil. Congress defunded Obama's order to close Gitmo when the DEMOCRATS were in charge, because that's what their yellow-underweared constituents wanted.

Guess how many Democrats voted to de-fund?  6.
Guess how many Republicans?  ALL OF THEM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.html?pagewante d =all&_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21detain.htm l?pagewanted =all&_r=0

It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.


You two have some serious reading comprehension. The vote was to defund the monies going to help SHUT DOWN Gitmo.
 
2013-08-21 03:16:14 PM  
I don't have any olives or honey.
Haven't for quite a while.
Rather surprised they aren't eating gas station hot dogs and Hoho's
Surprised, and a bit disappointed I might add
 
2013-08-21 03:46:23 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: It's no surprise the Democrats have no party discipline.

Well that's funny you should say that. You know who lost all the seats for the Democrats in 2010? The Blue Dogs. So now that the Conservatives are out, we can finally get some unity.

Farking hivemind liberals. So much for the Democrat "big tent" fiction.

I got a big tent, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

You shop at Dick's Sporting Goods?


I am Dick's Sporting Goods. Assuming "sporting" is a typo>
 
2013-08-21 04:12:43 PM  
Cry me a river biatch. If it was my choice you'd get pickled pigs feet 3 times a day.
 
2013-08-21 04:22:22 PM  

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: They say "defendant" like this guy's getting a trial or something.


They list what he did like he's actually been convicted or something.
 
2013-08-21 04:30:25 PM  
"There are big problems with the food that was provided," Binalshibh angrily told the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, through a translator.

...Navy Capt. Robert Durand, a spokesman at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the 9/11 defendants are being held, said Binalshibh received a "freshly prepared standard detainee halal meal" but "complained that his lunch did not include condiments such as olives and honey."


So, what actually happened is that he complained about the food, and the US military clams it was just about the condiments (not specifically olives and honey, just things 'like' olives and honey).  Sure, of course I believe that.
 
2013-08-21 05:28:55 PM  
Put him in general population of a prison in the US, and he'll definitely get a lot of dates...
 
2013-08-21 05:38:42 PM  
No tears for terrorists.
 
2013-08-21 10:07:20 PM  

stuffy: Cry me a river biatch. If it was my choice you'd get pickled pigs feet 3 times a day.


We are America. We shouldn't torture or spy on our own citizens.

But unfortunately, we do.
 
2013-08-22 11:49:14 AM  
Not being serve olives is torture?

http://youtu.be/eRPP0k_AGBs?t=1m50s
 
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