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(The Atlantic)   59% of the tuna Americans eat is not actually tuna - especially if you get your tuna at a sushi bar. In other news, 41% of Bill Parcells' TV appearances are actually done by Rich Kotite in an elaborate disguise   (theatlantic.com) divider line 57
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2013-08-21 12:40:26 PM
Hmmm...something that is not easily identifiable and tastes almost exactly the same? Duh they switch out cheaper fish.
 
2013-08-21 12:50:48 PM
That's why I go for the kobe beef burger instead.
 
2013-08-21 12:53:16 PM

finnished: That's why I go for the kobe beef burger instead.


Sucker.  I go straight to the crab rolls.  Everyone knows it's impossible to fake crab.
 
2013-08-21 12:54:18 PM
If only there was a way to deter people from committing fraud.  Some sort of reusable execution method that I advocate regularly.
 
2013-08-21 12:55:04 PM
84% of fish samples labeled "white tuna" were actually escolar, a fish that can cause prolonged, uncontrollable, oily anal leakage.
 
2013-08-21 01:01:15 PM
Maine lobster is the same as regular lobster
 
2013-08-21 01:03:54 PM
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The fish on the left is the fake stuff.  It's not even close.  If you order tuna, get something that color and don't send it back, then you deserve what you get.
 
2013-08-21 01:07:06 PM
Don't care.  Love me some "Tuna".

And if "prolonged, uncontrollable, oily anal leakage" is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
 
2013-08-21 01:12:31 PM

dr.zaeus: 84% of fish samples labeled "white tuna" were actually escolar, a fish that can cause prolonged, uncontrollable, oily anal leakage.


It gets better.  From a link in TFA:

i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com

People are paying $15 a pound for what the same story describes as explosive, oily, orange diarrhea.
 
2013-08-21 01:18:40 PM
84% of fish samples labeled "white tuna" were actually escolar, a fish that can cause prolonged, uncontrollable,Um.... every sushi place I've been to had this menu item as "White Tuna (Escolar)".

And it doesn't do that to everyone.
 
2013-08-21 01:23:45 PM
I eat a ton of tuna and I just can't imagine someone thinking escolar was tuna.  Of course I've never had tuna in any of the locations they listed.  I'm fairly certain most west coasters would know the difference.  I actually assumed this was referring to canned tuna.  That seems more plausible.
 
2013-08-21 01:37:43 PM
Tuna and salmon are just beginner sushi anyway. Go for a fish with flavor like mackerel.

What, no rossunagi.jpg?

Catching salmon on Lake Huron has been fun and tasty but I miss the flounder and redfish of the Texas gulf coast. And oysters, I really miss oysters.

/and good quality shrimp at reasonable prices
 
2013-08-21 01:38:21 PM
Dolphins are intelligent on rye bread with mayonnaise.
 
2013-08-21 01:42:50 PM
Not sure i mind eating a fish that had diarrhea.   If anything, i'd be more disgusted to eat a fish that had been constipated.
 
2013-08-21 01:49:49 PM
Omg the comments there are priceless.
 
2013-08-21 01:52:02 PM
There are over a dozen different species of tuna, and well more than that if you include the entire tuna family. You could have twenty different pieces of fish on your plate that look and taste remarkably different, and each is tuna.
 
2013-08-21 01:55:29 PM

PillsHere: I eat a ton of tuna and I just can't imagine someone thinking escolar was tuna.  Of course I've never had tuna in any of the locations they listed.  I'm fairly certain most west coasters would know the difference.  I actually assumed this was referring to canned tuna.  That seems more plausible.


No, that's dolphin meat.
 
2013-08-21 02:10:57 PM
"White Tuna' is sometimes Snake Mackerel
 
2013-08-21 02:12:58 PM
All you taste is the soy sauce and wasabi anyway.   Could all be artificially colored raw sunfish for all I know.
 
2013-08-21 02:12:59 PM
FTFA:  In Chicago, Austin, New York, and Washington DC, every single sushi restaurant sampled sold mislabeled tuna.

I call BS.  Unless they are splitting hairs and complaining about selling marugo as toro or something.  Now I want to know how large their sample size was.  What did they do, sample all of one cheap sushi location in each city?  Chicago and Austin I could almost believe but there's no way the palate of NY and DC are so uneducated as to not notice in every single sushi restaurant.
 
2013-08-21 02:16:38 PM

McGrits: Tuna and salmon are just beginner sushi anyway. Go for a fish with flavor like mackerel.


media.oregonlive.com

lol wut?
 
2013-08-21 02:22:06 PM
I though that since 1997 most of Bill Parcell's TV appearances were done by Rosie O'Donnell.
 
2013-08-21 02:26:13 PM

dr.zaeus: 84% of fish samples labeled "white tuna" were actually escolar, a fish that can cause prolonged, uncontrollable, oily anal leakage.


You may have trouble when the oil...nah, too easy.
 
2013-08-21 02:40:23 PM
Well, that would certainly explain the state of the Miami Dolphins.
 
2013-08-21 02:43:41 PM
I always heard it was dolphin people were actually eating when they ate canned tuna.
 
2013-08-21 03:03:15 PM
White tuna: Albacore is the white tuna referred to in the test. North Pacific Albies are cheap and plentiful. It's a Monterey Aquarium best pick. Escolar is not cheap and while readily available is not a tuna though it resembles a scombroid. In Japan it is purported to be an acceptable "White Tuna". Though it is very tasty, I avoid escolar for obvious reasons.

Bluefin and Yellowfin get swapped out all the time depending on price and availability. Most of it is saku from the PAI, Taiwan, Japan or China though there are plenty of fresh tuna most weeks of the year. Skip-jack, bullet and for the most part bonito are pet food though they are pretty tasty when bbq-ed or baked Vera Cruz style.

Snapper: It is legal to label certain sebasties species as Pacific Red Snapper though I think it's a better practice to just call it what it is, rockfish. Gulf, Pacific, Indian Ocean snapper are available and depending on the species, range from abundant to endangered. In my experience most of what is labeled "Snapper" in sushi restaurants is in reality none of the above and is in actuality tilapia. Tilapia is cheap, mild flavored and sustainably raised.

Salmon: Alaskan and Canadian Wild king, silver, and sockeye salmon are in season. They are abundant though exorbitantly priced ($9-$40 per lb filleted retail) and so restaurants are using farm raised Atlantic Salmon ($6.50 filleted for generic Canadian/Chilean, half again as high for sustainably and conscientiously (organically [?] raised). Club stores are selling frozen Pink salmon fillets for $6.00 in 3lb bags. This was almost exclusively pet food until last year.

Cod: For sushi? Really? Just dig up some worms in the yard and save yourself the time and gas. Cod is fish and chips and that's all. Unless you're Scandinavian, salt and boil away Sven.

Part of the problem as I see it is managing consumer's expectations. Where many consumers just see it all as "Fish". Beef, pork, lamb and chicken are all recognizable by type and cut and people are particular about what type they want. Brisket, flat-iron and sirloin are cheaper, while rib-eye the like command a premium. Most consumers can recognize the cut and species when it arrives either fresh or cooked. Fish on the other hand is that thing that many folks get once or twice a week and if the colors are vaguely close they're content to let the waiter or sushi chef tell them what it is. Escolar is a prettier piece of fish than albacore as rockfish is to some species of true snapper and so on. Intellectually they know that snapper is more expensive but when a prettier piece of fish (hand-painted Japanese tilapia) walks by on their table-mates plate they'll send theirs back as "bad".
 
2013-08-21 03:08:21 PM

show me: dr.zaeus: 84% of fish samples labeled "white tuna" were actually escolar, a fish that can cause prolonged, uncontrollable, oily anal leakage.

You may have trouble when the oil...nah, too easy.



Go on...
 
2013-08-21 03:10:30 PM

TNel: Maine lobster is the same as regular lobster


A while back on Kitchen Nightmares, Gordon Ramsey went apeshiat because some guy advertised Maine Lobster but sold lobster that he bought from Canada. The dude was like "It's the same" and Ramsey was like "It's fraud!" It's not. Maine Lobster refers to any lobster living from way up in Canada to down the coast to North Carolina. It's just what they call it.

I can't believe Ramsey let that shiat go on the air. It made him look like a total moron.
 
2013-08-21 03:12:55 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: All you taste is the soy sauce and wasabi anyway.   Could all be artificially colored raw sunfish for all I know.


I don't use any of that on sushi.
 
2013-08-21 03:12:55 PM

Jakamo: Fish on the other hand is that thing that many folks get once or twice a week and if the colors are vaguely close they're content to let the waiter or sushi chef tell them what it is. Escolar is a prettier piece of fish than albacore as rockfish is to some species of true snapper and so on. Intellectually they know that snapper is more expensive but when a prettier piece of fish (hand-painted Japanese tilapia) walks by on their table-mates plate they'll send theirs back as "bad".


This is why I prefer unagi.  Hard to actually fake a fresh-water eel.
/Unagi w/ avocado & tobiko.  Mmmm.  Pardon me, I'll be out refinancing my house after lunch.
Urchin is good too.
 
2013-08-21 03:18:07 PM

jigger: TNel: Maine lobster is the same as regular lobster

A while back on Kitchen Nightmares, Gordon Ramsey went apeshiat because some guy advertised Maine Lobster but sold lobster that he bought from Canada. The dude was like "It's the same" and Ramsey was like "It's fraud!" It's not. Maine Lobster refers to any lobster living from way up in Canada to down the coast to North Carolina. It's just what they call it.

I can't believe Ramsey let that shiat go on the air. It made him look like a total moron.


To be fair... Ramsey is from a place that has a variety of truth-in-labeling laws.
 
2013-08-21 03:22:43 PM
I figured anyone that eats sushi regularly and knows anything about it - knows that "White Tuna" is Escolar...It is delicious  - I eat it all the time. I have heard the rumors of the disadvantages and if you research it - the worst effects come from eating large amounts of it. In Fact i believe the nastiness can come from eating large amounts of raw fish that are extremely fatty.

this is really a non issue -
 
2013-08-21 03:24:09 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Jakamo: Fish on the other hand is that thing that many folks get once or twice a week and if the colors are vaguely close they're content to let the waiter or sushi chef tell them what it is. Escolar is a prettier piece of fish than albacore as rockfish is to some species of true snapper and so on. Intellectually they know that snapper is more expensive but when a prettier piece of fish (hand-painted Japanese tilapia) walks by on their table-mates plate they'll send theirs back as "bad".

This is why I prefer unagi.  Hard to actually fake a fresh-water eel.
/Unagi w/ avocado & tobiko.  Mmmm.  Pardon me, I'll be out refinancing my house after lunch.
Urchin is good too.


Unagi is my personal favorite. The FDA is inspecting most the product arriving from China though as there are reports of unsavory business practices (unapproved fungicides). If you like urchin (also sustainable and because we have a problem keeping our otter population high, eating urchin is beneficial to the environment as well), try live manilla clams or PEI mussels too. Less expensive, sweet and very tasty.
 
2013-08-21 03:34:44 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Jakamo: Fish on the other hand is that thing that many folks get once or twice a week and if the colors are vaguely close they're content to let the waiter or sushi chef tell them what it is. Escolar is a prettier piece of fish than albacore as rockfish is to some species of true snapper and so on. Intellectually they know that snapper is more expensive but when a prettier piece of fish (hand-painted Japanese tilapia) walks by on their table-mates plate they'll send theirs back as "bad".

This is why I prefer unagi.  Hard to actually fake a fresh-water eel.
/Unagi w/ avocado & tobiko.  Mmmm.  Pardon me, I'll be out refinancing my house after lunch.
Urchin is good too.


Agreed.
 
2013-08-21 03:35:50 PM

jigger: TNel: Maine lobster is the same as regular lobster

A while back on Kitchen Nightmares, Gordon Ramsey went apeshiat because some guy advertised Maine Lobster but sold lobster that he bought from Canada. The dude was like "It's the same" and Ramsey was like "It's fraud!" It's not. Maine Lobster refers to any lobster living from way up in Canada to down the coast to North Carolina. It's just what they call it.

I can't believe Ramsey let that shiat go on the air. It made him look like a total moron.


LOL that's exactly why I posted that.  I agree I mean you are already eating a cockroach of the ocean.
 
2013-08-21 03:46:51 PM

TNel: jigger: TNel: Maine lobster is the same as regular lobster

A while back on Kitchen Nightmares, Gordon Ramsey went apeshiat because some guy advertised Maine Lobster but sold lobster that he bought from Canada. The dude was like "It's the same" and Ramsey was like "It's fraud!" It's not. Maine Lobster refers to any lobster living from way up in Canada to down the coast to North Carolina. It's just what they call it.

I can't believe Ramsey let that shiat go on the air. It made him look like a total moron.

LOL that's exactly why I posted that.  I agree I mean you are already eating a cockroach of the ocean.


A bug is a bug is a bug except for lobster and crab. California spiny lobster is the best, Australian rock lobster is a close second. Dungeness crab is my personal favorite with North Pacific king crab a distant second. Still bugs, but tasty bugs
 
2013-08-21 03:47:07 PM

TNel: LOL that's exactly why I posted that.  I agree I mean you are already eating a cockroach of the ocean.


And I'm sure most of you have heard the story about prisoners in Maine a long time ago complaining because mostly all they got to eat was lobster. Lobster, lobster, lobster for days on end. To be fair I'm sure they didn't have clarified butter to go on it...
 
2013-08-21 03:58:13 PM

relaxitsjustme: FTFA:  In Chicago, Austin, New York, and Washington DC, every single sushi restaurant sampled sold mislabeled tuna.

I call BS.  Unless they are splitting hairs and complaining about selling marugo as toro or something.  Now I want to know how large their sample size was.  What did they do, sample all of one cheap sushi location in each city?  Chicago and Austin I could almost believe but there's no way the palate of NY and DC are so uneducated as to not notice in every single sushi restaurant.


LOL wait are you serious?
 
2013-08-21 04:03:06 PM

Jakamo: California spiny lobster is the best, Australian rock lobster is a close second.


I prefer the Caribbean spiny lobster, myself.  Just cut them in half, brush them with olive oil, and grill.  Also, while diving for them, I find that the sea urchin population is in need of thinning...
 
2013-08-21 04:24:22 PM

relaxitsjustme: FTFA:  In Chicago, Austin, New York, and Washington DC, every single sushi restaurant sampled sold mislabeled tuna.

I call BS.  Unless they are splitting hairs and complaining about selling marugo as toro or something.  Now I want to know how large their sample size was.  What did they do, sample all of one cheap sushi location in each city?  Chicago and Austin I could almost believe but there's no way the palate of NY and DC are so uneducated as to not notice in every single sushi restaurant.


You can read the whole study here:

http://oceana.org/sites/default/files/reports/National_Seafood_Fraud _T esting_Results_FINAL.pdf

142 samples from 81 outlets.  25 samples from sushi restaurants.

Jakamo: In Japan it is purported to be an acceptable "White Tuna".


According to links in TFA and others found via Google, in Japan it has been illegal to sell or consume for the last 35 years.
 
2013-08-21 04:25:48 PM
But unagi is still unagi, right?

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2013-08-21 04:32:11 PM

JustGetItRight: relaxitsjustme: FTFA:  In Chicago, Austin, New York, and Washington DC, every single sushi restaurant sampled sold mislabeled tuna.

I call BS.  Unless they are splitting hairs and complaining about selling marugo as toro or something.  Now I want to know how large their sample size was.  What did they do, sample all of one cheap sushi location in each city?  Chicago and Austin I could almost believe but there's no way the palate of NY and DC are so uneducated as to not notice in every single sushi restaurant.

You can read the whole study here:

http://oceana.org/sites/default/files/reports/National_Seafood_Fraud _T esting_Results_FINAL.pdf

142 samples from 81 outlets.  25 samples from sushi restaurants.

Jakamo: In Japan it is purported to be an acceptable "White Tuna".

According to links in TFA and others found via Google, in Japan it has been illegal to sell or consume for the last 35 years.


Poor writing on my part. Japanese cuisine.
 
2013-08-21 05:18:00 PM

bopis: relaxitsjustme: FTFA:  In Chicago, Austin, New York, and Washington DC, every single sushi restaurant sampled sold mislabeled tuna.

I call BS.  Unless they are splitting hairs and complaining about selling marugo as toro or something.  Now I want to know how large their sample size was.  What did they do, sample all of one cheap sushi location in each city?  Chicago and Austin I could almost believe but there's no way the palate of NY and DC are so uneducated as to not notice in every single sushi restaurant.

LOL wait are you serious?

 
He probably is, but if everyone is serving merde and telling you it's pate then your palate won't be able to tell soI can see how they could get away with it.
 
2013-08-21 05:44:09 PM

relaxitsjustme: FTFA:  In Chicago, Austin, New York, and Washington DC, every single sushi restaurant sampled sold mislabeled tuna.

I call BS.  Unless they are splitting hairs and complaining about selling marugo as toro or something.  Now I want to know how large their sample size was.  What did they do, sample all of one cheap sushi location in each city?  Chicago and Austin I could almost believe but there's no way the palate of NY and DC are so uneducated as to not notice in every single sushi restaurant.


Especially if they were washing it down with a nice, fresh, crisp Mt. Fuji bottled water.
 
2013-08-21 09:45:35 PM

relaxitsjustme: FTFA:  In Chicago, Austin, New York, and Washington DC, every single sushi restaurant sampled sold mislabeled tuna.

I call BS.  Unless they are splitting hairs and complaining about selling marugo as toro or something.  Now I want to know how large their sample size was.  What did they do, sample all of one cheap sushi location in each city?  Chicago and Austin I could almost believe but there's no way the palate of NY and DC are so uneducated as to not notice in every single sushi restaurant.


You realize that the population in Austin is more highly educated than either NY or DC, right? There are sophisticated people outside of the east coast, and they travel and eat good food and start companies like whole foods, so you can shove your flyover mentality up your ass.
 
2013-08-21 10:53:14 PM

Jakamo: A bug is a bug is a bug except for lobster and crab. California spiny lobster is the best, Australian rock lobster is a close second. Dungeness crab is my personal favorite with North Pacific king crab a distant second. Still bugs, but tasty bugs


The only crab acceptable for human consumption is Chesapeake blue crab.
 
2013-08-21 11:01:32 PM

TNel: jigger: TNel: Maine lobster is the same as regular lobster

A while back on Kitchen Nightmares, Gordon Ramsey went apeshiat because some guy advertised Maine Lobster but sold lobster that he bought from Canada. The dude was like "It's the same" and Ramsey was like "It's fraud!" It's not. Maine Lobster refers to any lobster living from way up in Canada to down the coast to North Carolina. It's just what they call it.

I can't believe Ramsey let that shiat go on the air. It made him look like a total moron.

LOL that's exactly why I posted that.  I agree I mean you are already eating a  cockroach of the ocean.

More like wood louse aka pill bug
 
2013-08-21 11:21:49 PM

HotWingAgenda: Jakamo: A bug is a bug is a bug except for lobster and crab. California spiny lobster is the best, Australian rock lobster is a close second. Dungeness crab is my personal favorite with North Pacific king crab a distant second. Still bugs, but tasty bugs

The only crab acceptable for human consumption is Chesapeake blue crab.


I think it was Tom Clancy who said that they were the only crabs suitable for consuming humans
 
2013-08-22 05:30:24 AM
I love escolar. I must be one of the lucky people who don't get the unfortunate side effects some end up with.
 
2013-08-22 06:52:15 AM
It's getting more and more difficult to find a decent can of tuna, I've been noticing this for a few years now. Instead of a nice chunk of tuna surrounded by oil or water, what you get is a damn puree of meat and liquid, making it damn near impossible to drain off the liquid to make a decent tuna salad sandwich.
 
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