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(Short List)   You know that nightmare where you're singing at a concert but no one turns up? Yeah well Brandy had that at the weekend. In real life   (shortlist.com) divider line 86
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2013-08-21 11:39:42 AM
Who?
 
2013-08-21 11:54:57 AM

doglover: Who?


Moesha!
 
2013-08-21 12:04:19 PM
Obviously, there is a large sailor community in that city.


Brandy, you're a fine girl, you're a fine girl

What a good singer  you would be; such a fine girl
But my life, my lover, my lady is the sea
 
2013-08-21 12:11:27 PM

Walker: doglover: Who?

Moesha!


Ke$ha?
 
2013-08-21 12:12:06 PM
I bet she killed tho.
 
2013-08-21 12:12:30 PM
Plus, she was only wearing her underwear.
 
2013-08-21 12:13:14 PM
There was gonna be a crowd there to see her but she ran over them all on the way there.
 
2013-08-21 12:14:29 PM
If I were her I would have been embarrassed at first but then would have used the chance to gather the 40 fans and do a personal concert between them and myself. It would have made the fans' year. And probably would have made great press in a taking lemons and making lemonade type deal.
 
2013-08-21 12:15:36 PM
She sulked after two songs and walked off.

fark that!  You sing your ass off and give those 40 people a farking show!

/well, maybe not a farking show
 
2013-08-21 12:18:04 PM

mekki: If I were her I would have been embarrassed at first but then would have used the chance to gather the 40 fans and do a personal concert between them and myself. It would have made the fans' year. And probably would have made great press in a taking lemons and making lemonade type deal.


This
 
2013-08-21 12:18:28 PM
As someone who has played to more empty rooms than I can count, I'm really feeling for her.

/she's quite rich & I'm nowhere close
//so NO, I'm actually not feeling for her

The only time anyone would even approach noticing would be at my funeral, where the eulogist would say "He played to scores of empty venues throughout his long musical career....no one cared then and no one cares now."
 
2013-08-21 12:20:18 PM

fruitloop: She sulked after two songs and walked off.

fark that!  You sing your ass off and give those 40 people a farking show!

/well, maybe not a farking show


Yeah, it's really bizarre to me that entertainers sometimes forget that it's a privilege, and every time you get on stage you've made an implicit promise to do your damnedest to entertain the people in front of you. The crowd doesn't owe you sh*t.
 
2013-08-21 12:22:35 PM

mekki: If I were her I would have been embarrassed at first but then would have used the chance to gather the 40 fans and do a personal concert between them and myself. It would have made the fans' year. And probably would have made great press in a taking lemons and making lemonade type deal.


Yeah gotta agree there, it's depressing but a cool ass move would have been for her to sing her hear out to those 40 people.

Hindsight is always 20 20 though
 
2013-08-21 12:23:36 PM
They would not have left if it was Rodriguez playing.

\if you don't know what i'm talking about, watch the doc, "Searching for Sugerman"
\\you won't regret it
 
2013-08-21 12:25:13 PM

mekki: If I were her I would have been embarrassed at first but then would have used the chance to gather the 40 fans and do a personal concert between them and myself. It would have made the fans' year. And probably would have made great press in a taking lemons and making lemonade type deal.


That is a really sweet idea. Someone would probably record it with their iphone, and in the future it would end up being an intimate portrait of an artist and her fans, with good music and interesting facts about her life. Instead she sulked and walked off. LOL
 
2013-08-21 12:27:42 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: Yeah, it's really bizarre to me that entertainers sometimes forget that it's a privilege, and every time you get on stage you've made an implicit promise to do your damnedest to entertain the people in front of you. The crowd doesn't owe you sh*t.


The capacity of the stadium is 90,000. There are 40 people left. That's few enough for you to potentially not even be able to notice them or mistake them for stadium workers.

And nothing says the 40 people still there didn't leave themselves during the two songs she did do.
 
2013-08-21 12:31:01 PM
Idina Menzel, fresh off her run on Rent on Broadway did a tour some years ago, and she had the record for least sales for a show for a long time. Exactly four tickets. Give her credit though, she played to the tiny crowd.

That record was broken by one of our former dishwashers, who rented the hall, and got zero sales, and the only person in the audience was one of his "guest" singers, who was there to see her girlfriend. The only thing that sucked about the show, was that Lion--yes, that's what he called himself--had pretty much played his demo CD constantly in the back when he worked for us, and the entire show was off that damn disc. Only live, and with much less production value. Mind you, he tried to sell said disc with some of my artwork for the cover, which he'd stolen from my office. It was the only time I had to actually go and get a court order to remove any of my work. Gigantic pain in the tochis, but there was no way in Hells I wanted to have my name associated with this 'tard...

Mind you, 40 folks in a 90,000 capacity arena doesn't even pay for the lights or staff to be there. At the Iron Horse at least, 40 would be a tiny crowd, but we'd at least have folks to sell booze to...
 
2013-08-21 12:32:54 PM

mekki: If I were her I would have been embarrassed at first but then would have used the chance to gather the 40 fans and do a personal concert between them and myself. It would have made the fans' year. And probably would have made great press in a taking lemons and making lemonade type deal.


I dunno.  You're amped to play for a massive audience, the PR/marketing fark-up is bound to be enormously deflating.  I don't think you can easily recover from that.  Maybe go down and greet a few people or something, but anyone would be colossally deflated at that point.
 
2013-08-21 12:33:45 PM

JolobinSmokin: I bet she killed tho.


alyaxey.com
 
2013-08-21 12:36:51 PM

Gosling: UrukHaiGuyz: Yeah, it's really bizarre to me that entertainers sometimes forget that it's a privilege, and every time you get on stage you've made an implicit promise to do your damnedest to entertain the people in front of you. The crowd doesn't owe you sh*t.

The capacity of the stadium is 90,000. There are 40 people left. That's few enough for you to potentially not even be able to notice them or mistake them for stadium workers.

And nothing says the 40 people still there didn't leave themselves during the two songs she did do.


Well, if you're down to literally zero people, I suppose it would be time to pack it in.

FTA: By the time Brandy arrived, there was reportedly no more than 40 people left.

If there is still any kind of audience, which presumably there would be if she got through two songs, the duty to entertain still stands. Granted, this whole scenario was built on what looks to be a couple of unsubstantiated tweets. I was speaking more to the mindset itself of any entertainer that feels entitled to an audience.
 
2013-08-21 12:39:33 PM
In defense of the people of South Africa, they just wanted to get home safely before Brandy took to the wheel.
 
2013-08-21 12:48:55 PM
WHO?
 
2013-08-21 12:50:35 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
Seen laughing her ass off...
 
2013-08-21 12:53:27 PM
If Brandy sings in an empty room, does she make a sound?
 
2013-08-21 01:00:16 PM
Hello South Africa!!! (crickets)
 
2013-08-21 01:02:45 PM
30.media.tumblr.com
Knows that feel.
 
2013-08-21 01:09:19 PM

ristst: As someone who has played to more empty rooms than I can count, I'm really feeling for her.

/she's quite rich & I'm nowhere close
//so NO, I'm actually not feeling for her

The only time anyone would even approach noticing would be at my funeral, where the eulogist would say "He played to scores of empty venues throughout his long musical career....no one cared then and no one cares now."



Assuming anyone shows up to your funeral.
 
2013-08-21 01:12:25 PM

JohnnyCanuck: They would not have left if it was Rodriguez playing.

\if you don't know what i'm talking about, watch the doc, "Searching for Sugerman"


I watched it, and I'm not yet convinced that it isn't all an elaborate con job, like "Exit Through The Gift Shop."

Create fake obscure singer & two fake "albums." Hire actor to play him. Get a bunch of accomplices to be the screaming fans at the show, and bingo: Oscar-winning documentary.
 
2013-08-21 01:18:12 PM

ristst: As someone who has played to more empty rooms than I can count, I'm really feeling for her.

/she's quite rich & I'm nowhere close
//so NO, I'm actually not feeling for her

The only time anyone would even approach noticing would be at my funeral, where the eulogist would say "He played to scores of empty venues throughout his long musical career....no one cared then and no one cares now."


Shiat, man. I know that feeling far too well. It is very, very tough to muster up the energy to perform for nobody but she really should have taken the opportunity to make 40 people's day. I've literally played my heart out for the bartender (and then she went out for a smoke, FML). But seriously, if nothing else, it's an opportunity to practice.

She's more successful than I will ever be and perhaps that has led to some diva tendencies but WTH?! The show must go on
 
2013-08-21 01:20:48 PM

Gosling: UrukHaiGuyz: Yeah, it's really bizarre to me that entertainers sometimes forget that it's a privilege, and every time you get on stage you've made an implicit promise to do your damnedest to entertain the people in front of you. The crowd doesn't owe you sh*t.

The capacity of the stadium is 90,000. There are 40 people left. That's few enough for you to potentially not even be able to notice them or mistake them for stadium workers.

And nothing says the 40 people still there didn't leave themselves during the two songs she did do.


She should have asked all of the audience members to introduce themselves.

/so lonely
 
2013-08-21 01:21:45 PM
The concert was just a ploy for her covert mission in South Africa.  Her manager insisted that she didn't go because she's bleck (sic).  She later revoked a South African Diplomat's immunity and killed him on a cargo ship.
Also, it was raining money and Knockin' on Heaven's Door could be heard in the background.

/Grab the cat
 
2013-08-21 01:23:49 PM
This surprised me at first, and then I realized I'm a wrestling fan. Sometimes, the people who you don't see much of anymore show up in a match to get jobbed out, and on those days it's a little reminder that they still work. Same type of thing here, didn't realize she was still making music and performing concerts.

/"Love Don't Cost A Thing" was a long, long time ago...
 
2013-08-21 01:24:35 PM

Uzzah: JohnnyCanuck: They would not have left if it was Rodriguez playing.

\if you don't know what i'm talking about, watch the doc, "Searching for Sugerman"

I watched it, and I'm not yet convinced that it isn't all an elaborate con job, like "Exit Through The Gift Shop."

Create fake obscure singer & two fake "albums." Hire actor to play him. Get a bunch of accomplices to be the screaming fans at the show, and bingo: Oscar-winning documentary.


So you have a "feeling" that it's fake, and was all a set up to win an Oscar? Don't you think it would be pretty easy to verify this? Wouldn't someone have come forward by now?  How do you fake decades of album sales in a country?
 
2013-08-21 01:26:39 PM

ThurmanMerman: Assuming anyone shows up to your funeral.


Hahaha!!!!   Can't argue with this one....after playing to so many empty rooms, why start then?

Kid the Universe: Shiat, man. I know that feeling far too well. It is very, very tough to muster up the energy to perform for nobody but she really should have taken the opportunity to make 40 people's day. I've literally played my heart out for the bartender (and then she went out for a smoke, FML). But seriously, if nothing else, it's an opportunity to practice.

She's more successful than I will ever be and perhaps that has led to some diva tendencies but WTH?! The show must go on


I've done 2 this month.....one was on a deck at a restaurant, and it was *un-frikkin-real* hot that day.  Two guys sat at a table sweating it out, everyone else went straight inside....so we played for the 2 guys.  The 2nd was last Saturday....we had about 30-40 heads show, but some other room nearby was having some televised event and they slammed out and basically took everyone else's business.

And that's my entire musical career....always a bridesmaid but never the bride....
 
2013-08-21 01:29:18 PM

Uzzah: JohnnyCanuck: They would not have left if it was Rodriguez playing.

\if you don't know what i'm talking about, watch the doc, "Searching for Sugerman"

I watched it, and I'm not yet convinced that it isn't all an elaborate con job, like "Exit Through The Gift Shop."

Create fake obscure singer & two fake "albums." Hire actor to play him. Get a bunch of accomplices to be the screaming fans at the show, and bingo: Oscar-winning documentary.


Well, Rodriguez was a real singer, but the bit about him putting out a couple obscure albums and then disappearing into anonymity is not. He was a huge concert draw in Australia for years.
 
2013-08-21 01:29:48 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: fruitloop: She sulked after two songs and walked off.

fark that!  You sing your ass off and give those 40 people a farking show!

/well, maybe not a farking show

Yeah, it's really bizarre to me that entertainers sometimes forget that it's a privilege, and every time you get on stage you've made an implicit promise to do your damnedest to entertain the people in front of you. The crowd doesn't owe you sh*t.


That is absolutely true. I notice you're a dfw farker with a band camp, got any shows coming up that I can come check out?
 
2013-08-21 01:33:33 PM

puckrock2000: Gosling: UrukHaiGuyz: Yeah, it's really bizarre to me that entertainers sometimes forget that it's a privilege, and every time you get on stage you've made an implicit promise to do your damnedest to entertain the people in front of you. The crowd doesn't owe you sh*t.

The capacity of the stadium is 90,000. There are 40 people left. That's few enough for you to potentially not even be able to notice them or mistake them for stadium workers.

And nothing says the 40 people still there didn't leave themselves during the two songs she did do.

She should have asked all of the audience members to introduce themselves.

/so lonely


Woah, I played there once and never heard that story. That's crazy. I wish I would have known it because it is the kind of thing I could have told my bandmates when we had similar nights to keep morale up.

One of the funniest things about popular music is that 99.999% of people don't want to hear new music or bands they've never heard of until peer-pressure and crowd-psychology influence them enough to give it a chance. This is why you can have a terrible band with terrible music get incredibly famous and successful if they have the right marketing technique. No other medium or art form can be influenced by marketing to such an incredible degree. Sure, shiatty films or tv shows can get some traction but they usually die off once people realize it's terrible and the word gets out.

With the right marketing machines behind them, awful musicians can have legitimate and successful careers.

I love being a musician and wouldn't trade my experiences for anything but realizations like this have made me very cynical of music "fans" (read: consumers).
 
2013-08-21 01:40:05 PM
If that were me I'd be asking "I still get my appearance fee, right?"
 
2013-08-21 01:40:49 PM
That's sad, she usually kills.
 
2013-08-21 01:48:36 PM
Meh, I'd hit it.

www.usmagazine.com
 
2013-08-21 01:50:40 PM
FTFA, people weren't there to see music originally...they came for soccer and rugby games.  The music was an afterthought that apparently somebody forgot to include in the marketing materials.

/or, maybe nobody gives a shiat about a singer who was second rate in the 90's and is probably not even that good now.
 
2013-08-21 01:51:35 PM
Dont feel bad Brandy it happens at Global Warming alarmist rallies too
 
2013-08-21 01:52:53 PM

Uzzah: JohnnyCanuck: They would not have left if it was Rodriguez playing.

\if you don't know what i'm talking about, watch the doc, "Searching for Sugerman"

I watched it, and I'm not yet convinced that it isn't all an elaborate con job, like "Exit Through The Gift Shop."

Create fake obscure singer & two fake "albums." Hire actor to play him. Get a bunch of accomplices to be the screaming fans at the show, and bingo: Oscar-winning documentary.


My biggest issue with it was that they never answered the money question. Where the royalties from the S.A. sales went. The labels say they were paying Sussex (Clarence Avant) ...but Sussex says they've been defunct since the 70's and received nothing. That was that?!?

I knew about the Aussie success...just thought it was crazy how a country, shut out from the rest of the world for a period, created this legendary person.

Anyway...it's a good way to spend an hour 20 or so.
 
2013-08-21 01:55:59 PM
...and to get back on track,

I'd do Brandy in a second!

\2 seconds if she's lucky.
 
2013-08-21 01:59:20 PM

ristst: ThurmanMerman: Assuming anyone shows up to your funeral.

Hahaha!!!!   Can't argue with this one....after playing to so many empty rooms, why start then?

Kid the Universe: Shiat, man. I know that feeling far too well. It is very, very tough to muster up the energy to perform for nobody but she really should have taken the opportunity to make 40 people's day. I've literally played my heart out for the bartender (and then she went out for a smoke, FML). But seriously, if nothing else, it's an opportunity to practice.

She's more successful than I will ever be and perhaps that has led to some diva tendencies but WTH?! The show must go on

I've done 2 this month.....one was on a deck at a restaurant, and it was *un-frikkin-real* hot that day.  Two guys sat at a table sweating it out, everyone else went straight inside....so we played for the 2 guys.  The 2nd was last Saturday....we had about 30-40 heads show, but some other room nearby was having some televised event and they slammed out and basically took everyone else's business.

And that's my entire musical career....always a bridesmaid but never the bride....


We've been a little more fortunate over the years with some middling success but I still know the feeling. Hell, even recently...

CSB time:

just this year we did a 6 week cross-country tour (about 13k miles total on the ole' tour van) with some great shows (even sold out clubs in LA, Austin, NYC, and Chicago) but we still had some sad-as-hell clunkers along the way. After a really hot show in Portland we headed up to play Seattle on a Friday night. We had never been through the PNW or Seattle before but we had some strong local bands that were opening for us so we had some high hopes (Friday night, right!?). We get to the venue and the booker apologizes and explains that the two local bands had to cancel at the last minute because of a scheduling conflict with a festival offer they got in Spokane for the weekend. The guy couldn't have been nicer but the place was completely empty. We were just gonna fark around and maybe practice on the stage when two random guys walk in. One of them looks up at me and calls my name and I realize its a childhood friend who saw we were going to be in town on facebook or something and decided to come and check us out. It was definitely embarrassing and I could tell he felt bad for us (which was even worse because nobody wants to be pitied). Anyway, long story short, the booker asks if we want to play and I'm like "hell yeah!" It was a great show, the music pulled in a couple dozen people off the street, and we partied in Seattle until the break of dawn. Worth it :)

Just don't stay at the La Hacienda Motel on the south-side of town. Just gross. Worst. Motel. Ever. EVER. (at least in my experience)

end CSB

.... those two guys who stuck it out in the heat for you, ristst, those are the very best kind of people. true music lovers who are hungry for something new and original. I'm sure you introduced yourself. I always do in those situations and have made some very good friends and valuable contacts as a result.
 
2013-08-21 02:03:28 PM
fruitloop: You sing your ass off and give those 40 people a farking show!

/well, maybe not a farking show



No, that's really more her brother's area.
 
2013-08-21 02:07:24 PM
Let's be honest. Brandy really isn't an artist or musician. She's a performer. Her primary asset for being selected to sing other people's songs was her looks. He goes up and dances while lip syncing. She really is a professional karaoke act.  She doesn't have the love or talent in her to provide an intimate show, though that would have been cool.
 
2013-08-21 02:10:33 PM
True Story

Back in the mid 80s I worked for a low down dirty scum criminal who tried to pay me in cocaine small concert promoter in Georgia. He got this great idea to do a show with the metal off-shoot of regional superstars Mother's Finest called Illusion. I busted my ass with letters, phone calls, and faxes as well as putting miles of walking in to promote the show. He lined up sponsors (no money out of his pocket) and vendors. Local radio tried to give away tickets (tried). Day of the show - 1000 seat auditorium at the fairgrounds - less than 50 presales including comped tickets to vendors and sponsors - ZERO gate sales. Seriously - zilch - zip - nadda.

The band was contracted to get 25% of ticket sales (1000 tickets at $15 each). They got bupkus. They were furious.

The low down dirty scum sucking coke snorting criminal concert promoter was no where to be found during this fiasco leaving me, his as-yet-to-be-paid lackey the one to catch the flack from the band. Found the promoter two days later back in Atlanta in a hotel with his new girlfriend.

Arrests and lawsuits followed. Finally landed in jail for 18 months for fraud. Not sure what happened after that. I became friends with the band.
 
2013-08-21 02:12:06 PM
HE ended up in jail - not me.
 
2013-08-21 02:29:54 PM
Another Mother's Finest story:

In the early 1980s, Aerosmith was a bunch of drugged out has-beens, they hadn't gotten their second wind yet and put on some extremely craptacular shows. Their audiences were dwindling.
They played Atlanta at the old Omni and had a newly reformed Mother's Finest open for them.
Somehow, Mother's Finest fans got access to tickets a couple of days early and bought out virtually every floor seat (maybe 1000 seats).
Mother's Finest plays a good, hot opening set and exits the stage....and almost everyone who has a ticket on the floor leaves too...the only folks left are in the lower and upper bowls of the Omni.
The security guards at the Omni were very efficient..no ticket, no floor seat, so there was nobody "upgrading their seat *wink *wink". Row after row of empty seats close to the stage.
Aerosmith trundles out on stage and Steven Tyler looks absolutely mystified why there isn't anyone sitting anywhere close.
Good times, good times.
 
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