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(NewsOK)   Three teens are bored, do they (A) play video games (B) go play sports (C) go drive by and shoot a guy who just happened to be jogging by their house   (newsok.com) divider line 85
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2013-08-21 12:22:53 PM  
5 votes:
To the people equating this to Trayvon Martin - are you trolling, or are you really that obtuse? The outrage over that incident was because of the fact that GZ got away with it, and that he wasn't even arrested at first.  People saw it as a miscarriage of justice, not "oh noes, innocent blacks are being attacked by whites/hispanics, ZOMG!!!1!"

A white kid getting killed by 3 black kids for fun is horrible, tragic, and meaningless, but it isn't remotely the same thing.  There is absolutely zero chance that these 3 kids get away with this.
2013-08-21 12:16:17 PM  
5 votes:
For every Trayvon Martin incident, there are 17 crimes like this one. The media completely ignores most of them. The only reason we heard a word about this is because the victim was somewhat well-known as an athlete.


Next time you read some boo hoo jerk off piece about how much is sucks to when people look at you suspiciously, remember this story.

This is the normal, not the other way around.
2013-08-21 11:51:15 AM  
5 votes:
Funny how Jesse Jackson or Al Sharp will not even make a comment on this. Killed a kid just because they were bored, really? This kinda crap the media needs to firestorm and put on every english speaking newspaper. Killed a kid because they were BORED.
This is why I hate society, Headlines focus more about the pretty little intern who lost her foot in New York or the NAACP whining about the laws they want to change down in Florida. What other garbage do we have in the news today? Syria blah blah we've known that for months now.

Take away race from this headline, Kids killed a guy because they were farking bored..... the worst part about it is, if it were two white kids that killed a black kid, NAACP, Jesse and Sharp would be all over it, spamming every headline and rioting up a new campaign to bring in money.

Fact is its about money and this headline does NOTHING to generate it for anyone. Farking sick of society.
2013-08-21 01:58:27 PM  
4 votes:

I Browse: Then I respect your consistency. I've noticed that many of those who defended Zimmerman don't seem to give other defendants accused of crimes the same "innocent until proven guilty" leeway. Every case is different obviously, but still...it seems prudent to wait until all the evidence is in before rushing to judgment. I had hoped the Zimmerman case would've proven that


Zimmerman's statement immediately after the event were that he had to shoot in self-defense.  These guys' statement immediately after the event were that they shot this person because they were bored.  There is no parallel.
2013-08-21 12:28:18 PM  
4 votes:
Oh right, I forgot how it works for FarkRacists.

Black perp: "This just goes to show that those black thugs are all violent and dangerous and our country needs to kick them all out before they systematically genocide the whiteys"
White perp: "This just goes to show that some people are irretrievably broken. I feel sorry for the victims."
2013-08-21 12:05:52 PM  
4 votes:
He we go again. More riots, threats, made up race designations, marches, false outrage, community organizing etc.
What, nothing from reverend al and the other race baiters?! Well, maybe barry will be making a speech about how this could've been him as a bored teenager or an innocent jogger or whatever just to make it about him. Huh, nothing from Americas head narcissist either?! Probably any minute now the super racist DOJ will be launching an investigation. The news organizations will be all over this like white on rice. Full coverage, much discussion and many hours of airtime right?! Or is it about those evil guns this time?
2013-08-21 11:48:43 AM  
4 votes:
Just an innocent white guy shot in the back for no reason by three back guys. Nothing to see here. I'm sure he deserved due to "white privilege" or something. If you say otherwise you are just as racist as the victim.
2013-08-22 11:19:10 AM  
3 votes:
I can see why it looks very much like a "strawman argument".  My larger point is thus:

There is an unspoken acceptance the there must be "allowances" made for black people to behave badly because they are somehow culturally or genetically incapable of getting over ancient history. This, in my mind is the most vile and unforgivable form of racism possible. These days, the only thing holding black people back is their fellow black people, telling them that they're "victims". The entire Trayvon Martin fiasco is a direct result of this mentality. Martin was only one of thousands of black youths that Zimmerman saw on the streets. Zimmerman wasn't suspicious of Martin because of his color, but because of his actions. But, to some people, it's just *got* to be because of his color, because of their desperate need to cling to their victimhood. And, lo and behold, Martin did indeed confirm Zimmerman's suspicions, and more. He went straight from "suspected burglar" to "confirmed attacker". Had he just told Zimmerman to kiss his ass, and that he had every right to be on that street as anybody else, he'd still be alive today. But no, there was a beat-down to be delivered in his estimation, and he wasn't going to waste the opportunity.

As for Obama, what murders does he comment upon? Only the ones that fit neatly into advancing his political agenda. Sandy Hook. Aurora. Zimmerman-Martin, because of the racial connotations, and the aforementioned rationalization. On this murder, which would be only natural for him to issue a statement on, since the victim is a citizen of another country, he doesn't appear to have much to say.

What does all of that have to do with this case? Exactly nothing. But, like I said, if it came out that Christopher Lane had said something racist about or to them, the racial circus would be in full effect, rationalizing their actions kin light of their "black rage" and you damn well know it. The politics of rationalization that Sharpton and Jackson hide behind, (yet make use of when it's in their favor,) guarantees it.

Straw man? Maybe. But only to illustrate the larger point.
2013-08-21 02:30:21 PM  
3 votes:
Oh, please! One of the kids already confessed,and he called the cops to his cell to make that confession. So, it didn't happen under duress and hours of interrogation.

I can't believe some of you are ready to cast these scumbag gangbanger wannabes as victims. You either have cop-hate issues, or you are still butthurt over the whole George Z trial.
2013-08-21 12:41:38 PM  
3 votes:
This isn't about guns. This is about lack of family structure, lack of fathers for boys, parents that are either too busy or don't give a shiat. When you pop out little humans, somebody needs to provide them a wealth of love, attention and guidance. I don't think that happens very much anymore. So we get little psychopaths that could have also jumped the guy and beat him to death with rocks.

Guns don't kill, people do. Society is sick. And btw, the black community has plenty of work to do to with their young men, and the billionaire entertainers can maybe stop throwing the slutty biatch and N words around. They don't even live in the same world you do, but you end up suffering for it.
2013-08-21 12:14:35 PM  
3 votes:
So we need to get a group of people in jogging sweats, and a baseball cap with pictures of Chris Lane saying "I am Chris Lane" and get the media to cover it.
2013-08-21 12:08:44 PM  
3 votes:

WhyKnot: Why it is that anytime there is a black victim and white perpetrator (or Hispanic...close enough, right?) the 'black community' gets fired up, the media gets fired up, politicians get fired up...but switch the races and all of a sudden it is 'a tragedy for everyone involved'; now we need to try to understand how such sweet and loving kids could commit such an unspeakable crime.


Things like the Trayvon Martin killing, stop and frisk, etc. follow archetypal pattern of discrimination and oppression. Seeing a young black man as a walking incarnation of danger, and overreacting to that impulse, is a depressingly common incident in American history. So people get very touchy when a news event occurs that might fit that pattern, even if they do end up being wrong sometimes. Ask a black friend about this sometime - they can explain better than I can.

There's not as much of an established racist pattern to the flip-side of those incidents. White people are *definitely* not oppressed by the system; although they are targeted from time to time by jackass racist criminals, and although the media does occasionally pussyfoot around black-on-white hate crimes to annoying effect, it is not even close to the epidemic the Stormfront fanboys would have you believe.

Also, one of the murderers in this case was actually a white kid, which some of the racist agenda-pushers are aggressively ignoring. That matters too.
2013-08-21 11:41:06 AM  
3 votes:
Surely the department of justice is going to investigate to determine if this was a hate crime.

Why it is that anytime there is a black victim and white perpetrator (or Hispanic...close enough, right?) the 'black community' gets fired up, the media gets fired up, politicians get fired up...but switch the races and all of a sudden it is 'a tragedy for everyone involved'; now we need to try to understand how such sweet and loving kids could commit such an unspeakable crime.
2013-08-21 11:39:03 AM  
3 votes:
Did it because they were bored?

Lock them up in a off-white room alone for 23 hours a day for the next 20 years.
2013-08-21 11:36:25 AM  
3 votes:
35 years ago, this could have been Obama.
2013-08-21 09:44:21 PM  
2 votes:

funmonger: Magnanimous_J: Whereas violence in Black communities is tolerated and expected, defended and glorified in their culture.

Do you even know any black people? HINT: What you see on TV isn't always representative of a "culture".

My own family's culture was "Stay in school, Stay out of jail". They're black.


That's the same as saying global warming doesn't exist because it was 70 degrees outside for me today in august. If you are black and Don't see that mainstream black culture is separatist and glorifies gang violence you are either in denial or being willfully ignorant.
2013-08-21 08:43:41 PM  
2 votes:

MagSeven: It couldn't have been because poor and biased media coverage stirred parts of the nation into an outrage could it? It's not like he's America's leader and may have to comment and take a stance on divisive issues? Obammy just decided to fark with the legal system for shiats and giggles and black pride, right?


Really?

Maybe something presidential like "I know some of you feel outrage at these events, but I encourage you to let the justice system do what it was meant to do.  I have asked the Attorney General to closely watch this case to insure that all parties, both the guilty and the innocent, receive fair treatment under the law".

No, we got "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon".  It would have been comical if it wasn't so pathetic.
2013-08-21 08:05:48 PM  
2 votes:

AngryDragon: tinyarena: farkingismybusiness
Obama
Loaf's Tray
Obama
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T
Obama
HAMMERTOE
Obama
MilesTeg
Obama

So,  three black kids kill a white man in Oklahoma, and you bring in the President of the United States.
Why?  Because he is a black man of course.

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
Noun
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race.

Well Congratulations!  you're all racists.  But you knew that.

So does that mean that the President of the United States unilaterally intervening in the previous case solely because the accused is black and he is a black man make him a racist?

I'll agree with your logic if that's what you're saying.


It couldn't have been because poor and biased media coverage stirred parts of the nation into an outrage could it? It's not like he's America's leader and may have to comment and take a stance on divisive issues? Obammy just decided to fark with the legal system for shiats and giggles and black pride, right?
2013-08-21 06:50:46 PM  
2 votes:

funmonger: I know the punk tweeted about Zimmerman... does that invalidate the "Justice For Travon" sentiment? How?


I am of the opinion that the media coverage surrounding the Trayvon Martin death has incited violence against whites. Many of the media continue to push the notion that there was a miscarriage of justice because of racism in the justice system. The media is guilty. The race hustlers are guilty. Eric Holder is guilty.
2013-08-21 03:13:47 PM  
2 votes:

Egalitarian: When Zimmerman shot Martin to death, the cops just gave him a pass without seriously investigating.


Both the local police and the FBI stated that there was not enough evidence to bring charges much less convict.  Then the outrage began.  The Prosecutor even had to bypass the grand jury to even get it into court because the belief was that they would not vote to bring charges.  In the end there was not enough evidence to convict.  A year of cost and time wasted to come right back to the original conclusion all because some people got all butthurt about it.
2013-08-21 02:48:18 PM  
2 votes:

Abuse Liability: Carth: Witness99: Carth: Witness99: This isn't about guns. This is about lack of family structure, lack of fathers for boys, parents that are either too busy or don't give a shiat. When you pop out little humans, somebody needs to provide them a wealth of love, attention and guidance. I don't think that happens very much anymore. So we get little psychopaths that could have also jumped the guy and beat him to death with rocks.

That is what happens when you don't offer comprehensive sex education, stigmatize and make it difficult to obtain abortions and don't provide new parent counseling to new parents on how to raise children.

I was a poor kid. I was raised by a single mom who worked three jobs (waitress, cocktail waitress, stripper in a bowling alley).

I still put myself through college, and never once did I ever want to hurt an innocent jogger.

What is wrong, when a teen wants to kill out of boredom?

You probably (hopefully) had a single mom who loved you and taught you about things like empathy and morality. You don't need to be rich to raise a kid well but you have to be interested in raising them and make sure they learn important life lessons like "don't shoot people because you're bored"

Also, guns are not toys and violence is wrong.  Is it really that difficult to beat it into your kid's head (not physically, obviously... well maybe) that they should follow the golden rule and treat others how they would like to be treated?   Would you like someone to shoot you in the head while you're out for a stroll? No? Then don't do it to someone else.


"Would you like someone to shoot you in the head while you're out for a stroll? No? Then don't do it to someone else."

i think you mean..." then dont stroll through a black neighborhood."

/aussie wouldnt know that
// all americans know that
2013-08-21 12:54:39 PM  
2 votes:

Inchoate: AngryDragon: So three black men actually becoming the "walking incarnation of danger", thereby perpetuating the stereotype should get MORE outrage. not less.

...I'm sorry if I incorrectly assumed you had black friends able and willing to talk to you about this. But I hope you do. Politely ask, and listen.

The issue of criminality among young, lower-class black men is not something that black people are magically unaware of, or something lots aren't outraged by. It's also not something they're required to individually offer atonement for, just like you are not obligated to apologize for Holmes or Lanza if you're white.


I'll ask my black girlfriend tonight and we discuss it all the time.

It's not a question of apologizing for anything.  It's an issue of DOING something about it.  The amount of apathy when it comes to dealing with the issues of family structure, culture, and deification of gang violence in the black community is staggering.  Sharpton, et. al. can get their feathers ruffled for "racism" but when there is an obvious and egregious event like this, silence.

You want to know why?  Because any black public figure who criticizes the accepted approaches to single family homes, gang culture, poverty, crime, education etc. for young African-Americans is instantly demonized by both the black and white communities.  It's disgusting.  What we are doing isn't working.  We need another MLK.
2013-08-21 12:48:47 PM  
2 votes:
Christopher Lane = Trayvon Martin, both victims of a senseless act, murdered.

However Zimmerman is not = to these three f**tards...

Wether he was trying to be the big hero neighborhood cop, or just trying to keep his neighborhood safe, he was not out looking to murder someone for fun.

People like these three should, and all drive by gang related shooters who kill as well as organized crime types who kill at random, should be put down. Same thing, those who kill innocent people by random gun violence should honestly be looking right at murder 1, premeditated as they wanted to kill, and the judgement should be final.

Just because they did not know the target means little to me as their intentions result in the murder of someone. This goes for al gang and crime shootings where people are killed. Reckless gunplay resulting in death should carry the same penalty as hunting someone down and killing them. I don't care if it is gang, mafia, mob, militia...    it is all the same, someone innocent dies because of a very conscious and planned act, though the target may not be the initial target desired.

Something like this is sick. Even sicker as people try to get their tags and righteous indignation to back up political stances. Lots of trolls...
2013-08-21 12:15:59 PM  
2 votes:

Galloping Galoshes: Sorry, I won't be convinced until a jury is.  There are just too many examples of cops sweating a young kid into admitting something it turns out later they didn't do.  Speaking as a conservative, of course.


Like the guys involved in that Central Park rape incident from a couple of decades back.
2013-08-21 12:03:15 PM  
2 votes:
Society is going to hell in a handbasket ever since David Lee Roth left Van Halen......
2013-08-21 11:58:45 AM  
2 votes:

AngryDragon: Well, at least this time it was two black guys and a white guy.  Nice to see the races working together for a change.


Nope, the "white" kid is mixed. BetterLink

Here's Michael Dewayne Johnson's dad:

resources1.news.com.au

So Michael could be Obama, 30 years ago.
2013-08-21 11:38:52 AM  
2 votes:
In cases like these, I think we need to tie those involved down in the town square, and let nature take its course.  If people want to come by and beat them with sticks, that's fine.  If the town chooses to let them die of thirst or starvation, that's fine too.
2013-08-21 09:03:55 AM  
2 votes:
One of these headlines will make it.....one day....
2013-08-22 08:42:01 AM  
1 votes:

MagSeven: AngryDragon: tinyarena: farkingismybusiness
Obama
Loaf's Tray
Obama
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T
Obama
HAMMERTOE
Obama
MilesTeg
Obama

So,  three black kids kill a white man in Oklahoma, and you bring in the President of the United States.
Why?  Because he is a black man of course.

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
Noun
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race.

Well Congratulations!  you're all racists.  But you knew that.

So does that mean that the President of the United States unilaterally intervening in the previous case solely because the accused is black and he is a black man make him a racist?

I'll agree with your logic if that's what you're saying.

It couldn't have been because poor and biased media coverage stirred parts of the nation into an outrage could it? It's not like he's America's leader and may have to comment and take a stance on divisive issues? Obammy just decided to fark with the legal system for shiats and giggles and black pride, right?


Precisely.  His stance on divisive issues as America's leader should not be predicated on his affinity for people of a certain skin color "cuz they look like my kids".  So many people were calling for Zimmerman's head on a pike before anyone actually knew anything because of race-baiting crap like this (and I'm no fan of Zim's either, mind you - he's at least socially culpable for what happened, if not legally) - what chance does one fat Latino stand against the President of the United States and his mighty Army of Angry Persons of Color that Look Just Like His Kids?  I don't think it has anything to do with "shiats and giggles", Obama's just that much of an unapologetic racist...
2013-08-22 07:02:19 AM  
1 votes:

MagSeven: Picking and choosing quotes is farking easy, man. Get a good nights sleep. I'll try to fight my apparent genetic disposition to rob and kill you and/or those you love in the meantime.


Those quotes are STILL no better.  With no knowledge he calls what turned out to be aggravated assault "messing up" and suggests that we "don't need laws in place" like that.  That didn't set the tone for the subsequent year at all, no sirree.

Thanks, I appreciate your comments by the way.  I'll also try to fight my apparent genetic disposition not go all white-devil profiler on the next black teen I see as well.
2013-08-22 06:26:58 AM  
1 votes:

MagSeven: AngryDragon: MagSeven: It couldn't have been because poor and biased media coverage stirred parts of the nation into an outrage could it? It's not like he's America's leader and may have to comment and take a stance on divisive issues? Obammy just decided to fark with the legal system for shiats and giggles and black pride, right?

Really?

Maybe something presidential like "I know some of you feel outrage at these events, but I encourage you to let the justice system do what it was meant to do.  I have asked the Attorney General to closely watch this case to insure that all parties, both the guilty and the innocent, receive fair treatment under the law".

No, we got "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon".  It would have been comical if it wasn't so pathetic.

Really?

Learn about context and quoting more than a single soundbite out of a speech. Then get back to us.

Really.


"I can only imagine what these parents are going through," Mr. Obama said from the White House Rose Garden, "and when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids, and I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this and that everybody pulls together, federal, state and local, to figure out how this tragedy happened.  You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," Mr. Obama said.

Yup, that's no better.  The "boy" who attacked a man forcing him to defend himself with lethal force.  No bias there whatsoever.
2013-08-22 05:15:53 AM  
1 votes:

I Browse: Magnanimous_J:

Absolutely. But before I give you the satisfaction of your "a-HA!" moment, pedophilia, like domestic abuse, is very evenly distributed over all cultures, ethnicity, and socioeconomic strata. If it seems like white people do the majority of the kiddie diddling, its only because its grossly under-reported in minority communities (probably due to a well deserved distrust for police) and in foreign cultures.

But white culture doesn't tolerate child molestation. It happens in white areas, of course, but doing it makes you the lowest of the low. Whereas violence in Black communities is tolerated and expected, defended and glorified in their culture.


You know...I learn more about black culture here on Fark than I have in 41 years of being a black person in America. Apparently I'm all about violence, government handouts, lack of personal responsibility, race baiting, underachievement, and fat white girls...and I didn't even know it!

Thanks Farkkk!


I know! I've been lacking my monthly allotment of fat white women and free government cheese for my entire life! Does Fark do reparations for that? I guess I should slap my best friend and my GF (100 lbs (probably 15 in the tits)) around because they're white. Just hate-crime/black rage the shiat out of them. I've been angry without even knowing it and I've got some catchin' up to do!
/and fark these kids who did this. Put them down because they're animals, not because they're black/mixed animals. As an American (well, dual citizenship), this sort of shiat is embarrassing to all of us.
2013-08-21 10:50:56 PM  
1 votes:

I Browse: You know...I learn more about black culture here on Fark than I have in 41 years of being a black person in America. Apparently I'm all about violence, government handouts, lack of personal responsibility, race baiting, underachievement, and fat white girls...and I didn't even know it!


Uncle Tom, huh?
2013-08-21 09:57:56 PM  
1 votes:
funmonger:
What you think of as Black Culture seems to be rap videos and gangster movies. Those are products of a multimilliondollar industry that ain't run by black people.

I don't know much about the rap industry. I thought Jay-z, Sean Combs and Dr. Dre were three of the biggest producers. Is that not the case? Who is running the rap industry these days?
2013-08-21 09:07:48 PM  
1 votes:

AngryDragon: Vectron: Justice for Trayvon!!!

James Edwards, arrested for the murder tweeted....


[dailycaller.com image 460x277]

"Woods" is a derogatory term for white people.

Duncan police chief Dan Ford said he had not yet seen Edwards' social media activities.
"I don't think there'd be any further charge," he told The Daily Caller in a phone interview when asked if Edwards' activities warranted any sort of hate crime charge. "I'm not discounting the stuff that's on there, but they do that for shock and effect."


"90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM."

Justice for Trayvon!!!

Can somebody translate that tweet into English?


I believe I can.

"I sucker punched five white people because I'm angry about the Zimmerman verdict. Do I feel bad about it? Nope, because I'm a hard pipin' ni*ger gangster mother fu*ker."

I like how the police chief said he thinks the tweets and facebook posts are just for "shock and effect". Pus*y.

See you guys in seven days.
2013-08-21 08:33:55 PM  
1 votes:
Death Penalty...get err done.
2013-08-21 08:00:36 PM  
1 votes:

funmonger: Vectron: I don't know how to make it more clear. Please reread my statement and consider the actions of the parties I cite.

You can make it clear by pointing out which specific action by parties accused directly led to these punks killing the Australian.


It's cumulative. The narrative instantly seized on by the media was that justice was not carried out for reasons of race. Specifically the doctored audio from NBC which attempted to portray Zimmerman incorrectly as a racist. How about the photos chosen by the media to create the impression of Martin as a cherubic child rather than what he was? I could go on and on. The din created by the media and the race hustlers finally forced an arrest and trial. The trial ended with a predicable result.
Rather than accept the verdict, Eric (my people) Holder promised an investigation into the trial. The new Ebony magazine covers promote the incorrect impression that Martin died for merely being black and wearing a hoodie.
All of these and more created an atmosphere of grievance that has led to many crimes against whites.

Police in Baltimore are looking into an incident that took place on Sunday, when a group of black youths allegedly beat a Hispanic man while saying, "This is for Trayvon."

Teen Charged With Hate Crime, Says He Was Mad About Trayvon Martin

The reported beating in Gainesville of a white man by a group of black men who yelled "Trayvon" before the attack last week resonated on the Internet on Tuesday....

There are more.
2013-08-21 07:55:07 PM  
1 votes:

tinyarena: farkingismybusiness
Obama
Loaf's Tray
Obama
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T
Obama
HAMMERTOE
Obama
MilesTeg
Obama

So,  three black kids kill a white man in Oklahoma, and you bring in the President of the United States.
Why?  Because he is a black man of course.

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
Noun
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race.

Well Congratulations!  you're all racists.  But you knew that.


So does that mean that the President of the United States unilaterally intervening in the previous case solely because the accused is black and he is a black man make him a racist?

I'll agree with your logic if that's what you're saying.
2013-08-21 07:51:49 PM  
1 votes:

Misconduc: mouse fitzgerald: Had GZ been arrested and convicted (like these 3 kids will very likely be), it would have been a non-story.

I understand now, any white person who kills a black person regardless of evidence or JURY TRIAL, should be sentenced to prison regardless. Lets ignore all evidence and just convict whitey because black people say so. This is what you are saying?  Fact is there was nothing to investigate, Black people had Zimmerman guilty before the evidence, trial or Jury even were picked. Difference is Zimmerman ...


No, clearly nothing at all to investigate.  Pay no attention to that dead black kid over there holding skittles and iced tea, he was clearly attacking the overly aggressive neighborhood watch-wannabe and needed to be shot.  No reason to even investigate, GZ is a paragon of virtue, and his story is to be believed without even looking into it.

What if the 3 kids in this story claimed that "this crazy Aussie dude ran straight at us!  He had this gleam in his eye like he was going to kill us!  That's why we had to shoot him in the back."  Would you believe them outright?  Would you say there was nothing to investigate, and that the shooting was justified?  No, you would want them arrested and investigated, and you'd sure-as-hell be angry if they got off scot-free.

Not saying that GZ is/was guilty, just that the case made it seem like there are different standards for justice depending on the race of the victim and the race of the killer.
2013-08-21 06:55:02 PM  
1 votes:

AngryDragon: Vectron: Justice for Trayvon!!!

James Edwards, arrested for the murder tweeted....


[dailycaller.com image 460x277]

"Woods" is a derogatory term for white people.

Duncan police chief Dan Ford said he had not yet seen Edwards' social media activities.
"I don't think there'd be any further charge," he told The Daily Caller in a phone interview when asked if Edwards' activities warranted any sort of hate crime charge. "I'm not discounting the stuff that's on there, but they do that for shock and effect."


"90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM."

Justice for Trayvon!!!

Can somebody translate that tweet into English?


Translation: Yes. I took down five white people since the Zimmerman trial. (Laugh out loud) (Expletive)  I am going to continue attacking/killing. #Yes

It would be interesting to see if there have been any unsolved attacks on Caucasians recently. I think we have a new suspect.
2013-08-21 06:49:26 PM  
1 votes:

Latinwolf: Magnanimous_J: Galloping Galoshes: This case has all the hallmarks of a community rushing to judgement and a police force willing to oblige.

Why do you think that? Is it because it was solved quickly? Because most murders that occur in competently policed white areas are solved quickly.

Truth is the police try harder to get the crooks when the victim is white.


Citation probably needed.  Do the police know the race of the suspect immediately upon discovering the race of the victim?  Or is it just that the victim is white?  Maybe I am wrongly divining what you are trying to say without saying it.  My issue is that the black grievance industry throws a fit whenever the victim or the accused is black but becomes silent when the accused is found guilty and the assumed victim to be a liar.  The Revs can't find enough cameras to stand in front of when it is a perceived wrong but can't skulk away fast enough when it turns out not to be.  Herp, Derp & privileged whitey - yeah, I know.  Yes, I also know that Jackson gave a lukewarm rebuke of the senseless violence and he "frowned" upon it.
2013-08-21 06:48:30 PM  
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farkingismybusiness
Obama
Loaf's Tray
Obama
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T
Obama
HAMMERTOE
Obama
MilesTeg
Obama

So,  three black kids kill a white man in Oklahoma, and you bring in the President of the United States.
Why?  Because he is a black man of course.

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
Noun
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race.

Well Congratulations!  you're all racists.  But you knew that.
2013-08-21 06:31:54 PM  
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Magnanimous_J:

If a suicide bomber in Bagdad kills a bunch of people on a bus, it is reasonable to lay some of that blame on the community that brought him up and influenced him. People aren't raised in a vacuum. Likewise, if an appallingly high amount of violent crime comes from a very small segment of the population, it's reasonable to say "Hey! What the fark is wrong with you?" to that segment.


Can I assume that you're consistent with this line of reasoning? For example...child molesters. If a small segment of the population commits the vast majority of sex crimes against children, do you lay some of the blame on the community that they came from? Or do you treat molesters as individuals who acted on their own free will?
2013-08-21 06:27:45 PM  
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2013-08-21 06:21:15 PM  
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dr.zaeus: [i.imgur.com image 669x727]

$100, a plaid shirt, and a busted iPhone.  Now THAT'S gangsta.


http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian -j ogger-posted-racist-tweets/

I'm sure it's just an inconvenient coinky dinky...nothing to see here, move along.
2013-08-21 06:15:16 PM  
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I'm bored with these kids already. To hell with the trial, just skip that part and given the chair.


//They'll understand, right?
2013-08-21 05:33:00 PM  
1 votes:
Not surprising that most media outlets thought a clown wearing an Obama mask was more of crime and outrage.
2013-08-21 05:19:43 PM  
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lantawa: One thing that I do know is that "disgust speech" is a lot different than hate speech.  I'm just plain disgusted at the whole mess.  Sorry if that sometimes comes across as hate.  To be fair, I'm an equal opportunity disguster.


Same here.  If a group of vicious white teens murdered an innocent black man, i would be equally disgusted.  Same goes for a group of elderly Korean women in wheelchairs viciously murdering a Slovenian exchange student living in France.  I'd be a bit surprised, of course, but equally disgusted.
2013-08-21 04:57:55 PM  
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mcicchi: Aren't you just a ray of sunshine.  You've added absolutely nothing to this thread but to insult people.  Who's the troll again?


Hey, cool. More strawmen. It's like a sport around here.
2013-08-21 04:01:59 PM  
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mouse fitzgerald: If the 3 kids in this case had said "he was going to kill us, we had to shoot him" and the police didn't even arrest them or investigate their story - then yes, this case would be comparable to TM/GZ. Until then, pissing and moaning about how "every black person ... is simply racist" does nothing but show your own true feelings about race.


Had he been sitting on their collective chests, pummeling their collective faces with his fists, bouncing the back of their collective heads off the collective concrete sidewalk, you might have a coherent collective argument there. As it stands now, just alphabet soup.
2013-08-21 03:55:36 PM  
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Vectron: Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?


Shouldn't White People know the difference between an Apple and an Orange?
2013-08-21 03:29:45 PM  
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Agent Nick Fury: I live in Pittsburgh and two years ago there was a shooting at a youth softball tournament - they estimated there were over 60 people watching.

Happened right in the stands where everybody was sitting but when police got there nobody saw anything.

Then you had the city official interfering in the case where the baby was shot in Georgia and the shooters mother tried to dispose of the gun.

If you truly want justice, don't just march for it - start doing something about it.

I know it takes courage because snitches get stitches but it's your fear that is letting these young people die in the streets


Yeah, you want to know what the problem is?  This.  This is the problem.
2013-08-21 03:18:00 PM  
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Inchoate: WhyKnot: Why it is that anytime there is a black victim and white perpetrator (or Hispanic...close enough, right?) the 'black community' gets fired up, the media gets fired up, politicians get fired up...but switch the races and all of a sudden it is 'a tragedy for everyone involved'; now we need to try to understand how such sweet and loving kids could commit such an unspeakable crime.

Things like the Trayvon Martin killing, stop and frisk, etc. follow archetypal pattern of discrimination and oppression. Seeing a young black man as a walking incarnation of danger, and overreacting to that impulse, is a depressingly common incident in American history. So people get very touchy when a news event occurs that might fit that pattern, even if they do end up being wrong sometimes. Ask a black friend about this sometime - they can explain better than I can.

There's not as much of an established racist pattern to the flip-side of those incidents. White people are *definitely* not oppressed by the system; although they are targeted from time to time by jackass racist criminals, and although the media does occasionally pussyfoot around black-on-white hate crimes to annoying effect, it is not even close to the epidemic the Stormfront fanboys would have you believe.

Also, one of the murderers in this case was actually a white kid, which some of the racist agenda-pushers are aggressively ignoring. That matters too.


While I agree with some of what you say, it is time for the black community to step it up a little in their own neighborhoods.

I live in Pittsburgh and two years ago there was a shooting at a youth softball tournament - they estimated there were over 60 people watching.

Happened right in the stands where everybody was sitting but when police got there nobody saw anything.

Then you had the city official interfering in the case where the baby was shot in Georgia and the shooters mother tried to dispose of the gun.

If you truly want justice, don't just march for it - start doing something about it.

I know it takes courage because snitches get stitches but it's your fear that is letting these young people die in the streets.
2013-08-21 03:07:38 PM  
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Egalitarian: When Zimmerman shot Martin to death, the cops just gave him a pass without seriously investigating.


This is not true. They had even consulted with the state attorney general. Their original assessment turned out to be correct. There was not enough evidence to bring to trial.
2013-08-21 03:00:32 PM  
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Let me guess the race... yup... oh wait, a wigger too? Didn't see that coming.
2013-08-21 02:58:25 PM  
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umad: Every race thread on this site has a couple of jackasses claiming that we are obligated to be held responsible for the actions of racist assholes who have been dead for over 100 years. Something something goose something something gander.



We could, collectively, decide to go another way with it... How about we only judge people as individuals? That might be fun to try. That way you are not responsible for the bad actions of people who share your race, and I am not responsible for the bad actions of people who share mine. We'd make no assumptions about each other based on race, and actually have to get to know each other before we made any snap judgements.

Who's with me...?
2013-08-21 02:53:11 PM  
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damn the race rabble rousers are all up in arms. Even here on relatively liberal Fark.

#1 reason why this is different from the Martin-Zimmerman case:

When Zimmerman shot Martin to death, the cops just gave him a pass without seriously investigating.

Zimmerman unfortunately became an identifiable face of Law and Order in this country, where vulnerable groups are considered largely dispensable. It's a well-known and indisputable fact that some minorities are treated with bias in the justice system.

I have to think that if any of you white Farkers had a teenage son who was shot by some random busy-body tough-guy you'd be all over that like Lindsay Lohan on cocaine. You would expect a decent investigation and for the guy to go to jail for some length of time for at least manslaughter, not the police having a default response of. "ok, Stand Your Ground, one less individual of XYZ group that we don't care about, move along, nothing to see here."

I think it's horrible that the Australian jogger/baseball/college guy was shot by 3 idiots. But it had nothing to do with Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman. The stupid attempts at equivalency are just that, stupid.
2013-08-21 02:37:01 PM  
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Misconduc: Vectron: Meanwhile, Ebony releases 4 different covers in September. What a pity party. Collect all 4!

Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?

You do that and every black person will scream racism calling for a boycott same old circle jerk because they are simply racist. Its the circle jerk we have to put up with unfortunately nobody is going to bother putting this kid that got killed photo on the cover of ESPN or any magazine, it would explode into boycotts and other crap causing some company to lose a ton of money which they don't want nor the negative attention. Fact is nobody cares unless its a black kid killed, its amazing how fast the NAACP and crew can start a racial war in a matter of minutes, mean while when a senseless killing like this goes on, nobody does a damn thing. Then again I think I read there has been over 600 african americans killed in united states SINCE the Zimmerman trial and not one thing has been said about it. One mother lost a child to a drive by few weeks ago and she couldn't get any media attention at all to find out who did the shooting. I think the local NAACP did a vile or whatever but that lasted 5 minutes, no media coverage..

The mother just had the baby a few months ago and loses it to senseless killing, there has been no suspects yet but its believed to be a gang iniation to shoot up a house just because it was previously rented by an "enemy gang member".



Had GZ been arrested and convicted (like these 3 kids will very likely be), it would have been a non-story.  There would have been no outcry, no magazine covers for Trayvon, nothing.  Obama, Holder, et al wouldn't have said a single word about it.

People were outraged about the TM/GZ case because of a perceived lack of justice for black people in America, not because a white-ish man killed a black kid.  Not sure what about this is difficult to understand.

If the 3 kids in this case had said "he was going to kill us, we had to shoot him" and the police didn't even arrest them or investigate their story - then yes, this case would be comparable to TM/GZ.  Until then, pissing and moaning about how "every black person ... is simply racist" does nothing but show your own true feelings about race.
2013-08-21 02:11:21 PM  
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Carn: In cases like these, I think we need to tie those involved down in the town square, and let nature take its course.  If people want to come by and beat them with sticks, that's fine.  If the town chooses to let them die of thirst or starvation, that's fine too.


But what happens when the community unties them, gives them a fist bump and says "way to represent young gansta!" ..?
2013-08-21 02:09:52 PM  
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This being Oklahoma, it's open season on wanna-be thugs from here on out.

These piece of shiats don't deserve to spend a day in prison after they are convicted.  Gavel drops... public execution commences.  I'm tired of my money paying into a "justice" system that only makes lawyers rich.

We are the laughing stock of the world because of idiots like this.  If this story doesn't make you sick to your stomach, then you are part of the problem with our society today.
2013-08-21 02:03:33 PM  
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The tragedy here like a lot of these crimes is that it prematurely ends the life someone who would live a worthwhile life.  Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom seemed like nice kids too. It breaks your heart that  years of raising children with love to be good people,  can be snuffed out on a whim.
2013-08-21 01:50:42 PM  
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Hawnkee: [media1.s-nbcnews.com image 208x298][media1.s-nbcnews.com image 208x298][media1.s-nbcnews.com image 208x298]

Warm 'em up, Chris.


I'm no "string 'em up," pro-capital punishment person most of the time, but in this case I have to say: give all three the needle and rid society of some of its waste.
2013-08-21 01:28:21 PM  
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Galloping Galoshes: I Browse: porcupine tree: Where is George Z when you need him?


Why would you need him? I was told, repeatedly, that Zimmerman was not a vigilante. He was simply a victim of an assault who protected himself. Was I lied to...?

Only by certain news outlets.  He wasn't "standing his ground" either; straight case of self defense.
BTW, I'm defending these three kids until I see some actual evidence of their guilt that doesn't come from an hours-long interrogation without counsel.  And even then I'll be very suspicious.  This case has all the hallmarks of a community rushing to judgement and a police force willing to oblige.


Normally I'd do the same except for the part where one confessed to doing for the funsies... It's true that could have been coerced, but I'm leaning toward guilty and would be happy to change my mind in light of new evidence.  Just a weird choice of words.
2013-08-21 01:19:05 PM  
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Vectron: Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?



Absolutely. I think you should get right on that.
2013-08-21 01:18:26 PM  
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Jennifer Luna, whose son is suspected of firing the fatal shot, claimed her son was at home saying: "My son is not that way. My son is a good kid."

You can't make this shiat up.
2013-08-21 01:14:57 PM  
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Vectron: Meanwhile, Ebony releases 4 different covers in September. What a pity party. Collect all 4!

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Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?


Only if you want a discussion with Eric Holder.
2013-08-21 01:10:56 PM  
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Meanwhile, Ebony releases 4 different covers in September. What a pity party. Collect all 4!

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Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?
2013-08-21 01:05:24 PM  
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Mod's working overtime? Seems a lot of comments are disappearing.
2013-08-21 01:03:39 PM  
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Magnanimous_J: For every Trayvon Martin incident, there are 17 crimes like this one. The media completely ignores most of them. The only reason we heard a word about this is because the victim was somewhat well-known as an athlete.


Next time you read some boo hoo jerk off piece about how much is sucks to when people look at you suspiciously, remember this story.

This is the normal, not the other way around.


The ratio is more like 1:100
2013-08-21 12:53:13 PM  
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Carth: That is what happens when you don't offer comprehensive sex education, stigmatize and make it difficult to obtain abortions and don't provide new parent counseling to new parents on how to raise children.


That's part of it.
Media circuses surrounding every shooter-who-snapped case.
Distant and laissez-faire parents.
Easy access to weapons.
Poor access to mental health services; poor coordination between services.
Glorification of selfishness, violence and immediacy (this is a many-headed hydra, not something pat and moral-panicky like a certain kind of media).

So many things could contribute to the idea in a young man's head that whipping out a gun and ending lives is a realistic option when bored, depressed, etc. Failsafes of society and situation make most people's minds consider the murder option preposterous. In so many cases, they are not working or were never there.
2013-08-21 12:43:39 PM  
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AngryDragon: So three black men actually becoming the "walking incarnation of danger", thereby perpetuating the stereotype should get MORE outrage. not less.


...I'm sorry if I incorrectly assumed you had black friends able and willing to talk to you about this. But I hope you do. Politely ask, and listen.

The issue of criminality among young, lower-class black men is not something that black people are magically unaware of, or something lots aren't outraged by. It's also not something they're required to individually offer atonement for, just like you are not obligated to apologize for Holmes or Lanza if you're white.
2013-08-21 12:36:27 PM  
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Carth: Galloping Galoshes: Sorry, I won't be convinced until a jury is.  There are just too many examples of cops sweating a young kid into admitting something it turns out later they didn't do.  Speaking as a conservative, of course.

Yea, there might be a perfectly justifiable reason they shot that guy right? Maybe he was running right at them.


backwards
2013-08-21 12:36:15 PM  
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Three Trayvons see a white kid running down the street...
2013-08-21 12:29:02 PM  
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Latinwolf: Galloping Galoshes: Sorry, I won't be convinced until a jury is.  There are just too many examples of cops sweating a young kid into admitting something it turns out later they didn't do.  Speaking as a conservative, of course.

Like the guys involved in that Central Park rape incident from a couple of decades back.


Plenty of examples.  Outraged populis, pressure on cops to solve, "highly motivated" questioning for hours without breaks.  I'm sorry people haven't learned their lesson that just because the cops make an arrest, it doesn't mean they got the right guys.  DNA tests are showing that, what, about 50% of death penalty cases got the wrong guy?  That's why the Innocence Project is so important.  That's also why, even though I'm conservative, I don't support capital punishment, because the system is so bad at getting it right.
2013-08-21 12:27:47 PM  
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mekki: mouse fitzgerald: To the people equating this to Trayvon Martin - are you trolling, or are you really that obtuse? The outrage over that incident was because of the fact that GZ got away with it, and that he wasn't even arrested at first.  People saw it as a miscarriage of justice, not "oh noes, innocent blacks are being attacked by whites/hispanics, ZOMG!!!1!"

A white kid getting killed by 3 black kids for fun is horrible, tragic, and meaningless, but it isn't remotely the same thing.  There is absolutely zero chance that these 3 kids get away with this.

Bingo!

The only thing the two stories have in common is that someone was shot and killed. That's it.


To be fair, they both had wanna be badasses, only this time the wrong person got shot.
2013-08-21 12:26:19 PM  
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porcupine tree: Where is George Z when you need him?


We had a flyer on our door the other day that said something to the effect of "there have been a string of armed robberies and burglaries over the past few weeks in the surrounding neighborhoods" and I immediately thought of George.  The weird thing is I actually am concerned and will probably call the police if there is anyone I don't recognize, but I don't think I'll go out patrolling myself.  Who needs that shiat?
2013-08-21 12:19:02 PM  
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IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: AngryDragon: Well, at least this time it was two black guys and a white guy.  Nice to see the races working together for a change.

Nope, the "white" kid is mixed. BetterLink

Here's Michael Dewayne Johnson's dad:

[resources1.news.com.au image 650x366]

So Michael could be Obama, 30 years ago.


I'm going to assume that you are just stupid, and not purposefully confusing things to prove that the "white" kid isn't actually "white". The picture that you posted is of James Johnson, the father of another possible target of the three killers. The "white" killer's name is Michael Dewayne Jones.
2013-08-21 12:18:41 PM  
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The victim was Australian. I always feel more embarrassed when the murder victim is a non-American who was just visiting or in this case, just a student. Like if we are going to keep killing each other, keep it in-house. Don't bring strangers into it. God knows the world thinks we are just trigger happy savages. This just proves it double fold.
2013-08-21 12:13:41 PM  
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Lt. Cheese Weasel: [img.fark.net image 650x366]

Fine lads.



WTF, show pictures of them when they were 12!!!  How am I supposed to be enraged about the injustice of the evil white people beating down on a couple of 5 years old out for some lolilpops.
2013-08-21 12:08:56 PM  
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Warm 'em up, Chris.
2013-08-21 12:08:11 PM  
1 votes:
A black man takes a white girl home from a nightclub. She says, "Show me it's true what they say about black men."

So he stabs her and steals her purse.
2013-08-21 12:04:40 PM  
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kortex: The sickest part about this whole thing is that Odumbo is willing to make a speech and a nonsensical plea about a justified killing of a black male by a mexican male, but could not care less about this.


Really? That's the sickest part?  I pity you.
2013-08-21 11:54:16 AM  
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The sickest part about this whole thing is that Odumbo is willing to make a speech and a nonsensical plea about a justified killing of a black male by a mexican male, but could not care less about this.
2013-08-21 11:53:45 AM  
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Firethorn: Did it because they were bored?

Lock them up in a off-white room alone for 23 hours a day for the next 20 years.


Yeah, I bet they get a lot less than Mannings 35 years.
2013-08-21 11:47:49 AM  
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farkingismybusiness: 35 years ago, this could have been Obama.


You laugh, but if Obama had a white Australian son, he would've looked just like that guy...
 
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