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2013-08-21 12:16:17 PM
For every Trayvon Martin incident, there are 17 crimes like this one. The media completely ignores most of them. The only reason we heard a word about this is because the victim was somewhat well-known as an athlete.


Next time you read some boo hoo jerk off piece about how much is sucks to when people look at you suspiciously, remember this story.

This is the normal, not the other way around.
 
2013-08-21 12:16:34 PM

Okieboy: Society is going to hell in a handbasket ever since David Lee Roth left Van Halen......


...you may be onto something...
 
2013-08-21 12:18:38 PM
Why other people from other countries don't avoid this shiathole of a country like its radioactive is beyond me.  Treat us like Europa, attempt no landing here. Avoid or die.
 
2013-08-21 12:18:41 PM
The victim was Australian. I always feel more embarrassed when the murder victim is a non-American who was just visiting or in this case, just a student. Like if we are going to keep killing each other, keep it in-house. Don't bring strangers into it. God knows the world thinks we are just trigger happy savages. This just proves it double fold.
 
2013-08-21 12:19:02 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: AngryDragon: Well, at least this time it was two black guys and a white guy.  Nice to see the races working together for a change.

Nope, the "white" kid is mixed. BetterLink

Here's Michael Dewayne Johnson's dad:

[resources1.news.com.au image 650x366]

So Michael could be Obama, 30 years ago.


I'm going to assume that you are just stupid, and not purposefully confusing things to prove that the "white" kid isn't actually "white". The picture that you posted is of James Johnson, the father of another possible target of the three killers. The "white" killer's name is Michael Dewayne Jones.
 
2013-08-21 12:19:40 PM

Magnanimous_J: For every Trayvon Martin incident, there are 17 crimes like this one. The media completely ignores most of them. The only reason we heard a word about this is because the victim was somewhat well-known as an athlete.


Next time you read some boo hoo jerk off piece about how much is sucks to when people look at you suspiciously, remember this story.

This is the normal, not the other way around.



This.
 
2013-08-21 12:21:06 PM
Where is George Z when you need him?
 
2013-08-21 12:22:53 PM
To the people equating this to Trayvon Martin - are you trolling, or are you really that obtuse? The outrage over that incident was because of the fact that GZ got away with it, and that he wasn't even arrested at first.  People saw it as a miscarriage of justice, not "oh noes, innocent blacks are being attacked by whites/hispanics, ZOMG!!!1!"

A white kid getting killed by 3 black kids for fun is horrible, tragic, and meaningless, but it isn't remotely the same thing.  There is absolutely zero chance that these 3 kids get away with this.
 
2013-08-21 12:23:19 PM
Too bad parents aren't liable for the actions of their kids.
 
2013-08-21 12:24:33 PM
Who will win the thread? The "racists" who point out that two (or three, that's a weird looking kid?) of the perps were black or the "gun-grabbers" who point out that without guns this would be much less likely to happen?
/they're both correct


My money's on the self-righteous, indignant, finger pointers
 
2013-08-21 12:24:56 PM

porcupine tree: Where is George Z when you need him?


Probably switching to DirectTV.

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2013-08-21 12:25:55 PM

mouse fitzgerald: To the people equating this to Trayvon Martin - are you trolling, or are you really that obtuse? The outrage over that incident was because of the fact that GZ got away with it, and that he wasn't even arrested at first.  People saw it as a miscarriage of justice, not "oh noes, innocent blacks are being attacked by whites/hispanics, ZOMG!!!1!"

A white kid getting killed by 3 black kids for fun is horrible, tragic, and meaningless, but it isn't remotely the same thing.  There is absolutely zero chance that these 3 kids get away with this.


Bingo!

The only thing the two stories have in common is that someone was shot and killed. That's it.
 
2013-08-21 12:26:19 PM

porcupine tree: Where is George Z when you need him?


We had a flyer on our door the other day that said something to the effect of "there have been a string of armed robberies and burglaries over the past few weeks in the surrounding neighborhoods" and I immediately thought of George.  The weird thing is I actually am concerned and will probably call the police if there is anyone I don't recognize, but I don't think I'll go out patrolling myself.  Who needs that shiat?
 
2013-08-21 12:27:47 PM

mekki: mouse fitzgerald: To the people equating this to Trayvon Martin - are you trolling, or are you really that obtuse? The outrage over that incident was because of the fact that GZ got away with it, and that he wasn't even arrested at first.  People saw it as a miscarriage of justice, not "oh noes, innocent blacks are being attacked by whites/hispanics, ZOMG!!!1!"

A white kid getting killed by 3 black kids for fun is horrible, tragic, and meaningless, but it isn't remotely the same thing.  There is absolutely zero chance that these 3 kids get away with this.

Bingo!

The only thing the two stories have in common is that someone was shot and killed. That's it.


To be fair, they both had wanna be badasses, only this time the wrong person got shot.
 
2013-08-21 12:28:18 PM
Oh right, I forgot how it works for FarkRacists.

Black perp: "This just goes to show that those black thugs are all violent and dangerous and our country needs to kick them all out before they systematically genocide the whiteys"
White perp: "This just goes to show that some people are irretrievably broken. I feel sorry for the victims."
 
2013-08-21 12:29:02 PM

Latinwolf: Galloping Galoshes: Sorry, I won't be convinced until a jury is.  There are just too many examples of cops sweating a young kid into admitting something it turns out later they didn't do.  Speaking as a conservative, of course.

Like the guys involved in that Central Park rape incident from a couple of decades back.


Plenty of examples.  Outraged populis, pressure on cops to solve, "highly motivated" questioning for hours without breaks.  I'm sorry people haven't learned their lesson that just because the cops make an arrest, it doesn't mean they got the right guys.  DNA tests are showing that, what, about 50% of death penalty cases got the wrong guy?  That's why the Innocence Project is so important.  That's also why, even though I'm conservative, I don't support capital punishment, because the system is so bad at getting it right.
 
2013-08-21 12:29:03 PM
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When an innocent Australian student is shot dead in Oklahoma for 'fun' - America's gun crisis becomes the world's problem.

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/statuses/370029109721575426" 11:46 PM - 20 Aug 2013Uh no Piers - that's not it.  What will work without disarming innocent law-abiding citizens is executing people who commit crimes like this instead of letting them live, because they don't deserve to live.  Seriously, WFT benefit are these three going to be to society?
 
2013-08-21 12:31:44 PM
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That dude is tiny.  He is about 5'3 and a half.  Would that make him a spinner in prison?
 
2013-08-21 12:32:18 PM

Inchoate: WhyKnot: Why it is that anytime there is a black victim and white perpetrator (or Hispanic...close enough, right?) the 'black community' gets fired up, the media gets fired up, politicians get fired up...but switch the races and all of a sudden it is 'a tragedy for everyone involved'; now we need to try to understand how such sweet and loving kids could commit such an unspeakable crime.

Things like the Trayvon Martin killing, stop and frisk, etc. follow archetypal pattern of discrimination and oppression. Seeing a young black man as a walking incarnation of danger, and overreacting to that impulse, is a depressingly common incident in American history. So people get very touchy when a news event occurs that might fit that pattern, even if they do end up being wrong sometimes. Ask a black friend about this sometime - they can explain better than I can.

There's not as much of an established racist pattern to the flip-side of those incidents. White people are *definitely* not oppressed by the system; although they are targeted from time to time by jackass racist criminals, and although the media does occasionally pussyfoot around black-on-white hate crimes to annoying effect, it is not even close to the epidemic the Stormfront fanboys would have you believe.

Also, one of the murderers in this case was actually a white kid, which some of the racist agenda-pushers are aggressively ignoring. That matters too.


So three black men actually becoming the "walking incarnation of danger", thereby perpetuating the stereotype should get MORE outrage. not less.

And as has been pointed out to me, the "white kid" is as white as Zimmerman was.
 
2013-08-21 12:32:57 PM

wingding: Hug a thug


Only if it happened in Maryland.
 
2013-08-21 12:34:56 PM
Glad to see that AZ has the death penalty.  Let's hope they use it.
 
2013-08-21 12:36:15 PM
Three Trayvons see a white kid running down the street...
 
2013-08-21 12:36:27 PM

Carth: Galloping Galoshes: Sorry, I won't be convinced until a jury is.  There are just too many examples of cops sweating a young kid into admitting something it turns out later they didn't do.  Speaking as a conservative, of course.

Yea, there might be a perfectly justifiable reason they shot that guy right? Maybe he was running right at them.


backwards
 
2013-08-21 12:37:11 PM

Cold_Sassy: Glad to see that AZ has the death penalty.  Let's hope they use it.


Oklahoma might have something to say about that.
 
2013-08-21 12:41:38 PM
This isn't about guns. This is about lack of family structure, lack of fathers for boys, parents that are either too busy or don't give a shiat. When you pop out little humans, somebody needs to provide them a wealth of love, attention and guidance. I don't think that happens very much anymore. So we get little psychopaths that could have also jumped the guy and beat him to death with rocks.

Guns don't kill, people do. Society is sick. And btw, the black community has plenty of work to do to with their young men, and the billionaire entertainers can maybe stop throwing the slutty biatch and N words around. They don't even live in the same world you do, but you end up suffering for it.
 
2013-08-21 12:43:39 PM

AngryDragon: So three black men actually becoming the "walking incarnation of danger", thereby perpetuating the stereotype should get MORE outrage. not less.


...I'm sorry if I incorrectly assumed you had black friends able and willing to talk to you about this. But I hope you do. Politely ask, and listen.

The issue of criminality among young, lower-class black men is not something that black people are magically unaware of, or something lots aren't outraged by. It's also not something they're required to individually offer atonement for, just like you are not obligated to apologize for Holmes or Lanza if you're white.
 
2013-08-21 12:43:58 PM

Witness99: This isn't about guns. This is about lack of family structure, lack of fathers for boys, parents that are either too busy or don't give a shiat. When you pop out little humans, somebody needs to provide them a wealth of love, attention and guidance. I don't think that happens very much anymore. So we get little psychopaths that could have also jumped the guy and beat him to death with rocks.

Guns don't kill, people do. Society is sick. And btw, the black community has plenty of work to do to with their young men, and the billionaire entertainers can maybe stop throwing the slutty biatch and N words around. They don't even live in the same world you do, but you end up suffering for it.


Caution:  Reasonable typing detected.
 
2013-08-21 12:44:15 PM

Witness99: This isn't about guns. This is about lack of family structure, lack of fathers for boys, parents that are either too busy or don't give a shiat. When you pop out little humans, somebody needs to provide them a wealth of love, attention and guidance. I don't think that happens very much anymore. So we get little psychopaths that could have also jumped the guy and beat him to death with rocks.


That is what happens when you don't offer comprehensive sex education, stigmatize and make it difficult to obtain abortions and don't provide new parent counseling to new parents on how to raise children.
 
2013-08-21 12:47:18 PM
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$100, a plaid shirt, and a busted iPhone.  Now THAT'S gangsta.
 
2013-08-21 12:47:51 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Latinwolf: Galloping Galoshes: Sorry, I won't be convinced until a jury is.  There are just too many examples of cops sweating a young kid into admitting something it turns out later they didn't do.  Speaking as a conservative, of course.

Like the guys involved in that Central Park rape incident from a couple of decades back.

Plenty of examples.  Outraged populis, pressure on cops to solve, "highly motivated" questioning for hours without breaks.  I'm sorry people haven't learned their lesson that just because the cops make an arrest, it doesn't mean they got the right guys.  DNA tests are showing that, what, about 50% of death penalty cases got the wrong guy?  That's why the Innocence Project is so important.  That's also why, even though I'm conservative, I don't support capital punishment, because the system is so bad at getting it right.


It's actually about 2 - 5 percent of people on death row.  Rape exonerations have seen rates as high as 9 percent in some areas though.  We definitely don't always "get it right", but your guess was a bit off.
 
2013-08-21 12:48:10 PM

Cold_Sassy: Glad to see that AZ OKlahome has the death penalty.  Let's hope they use it.


Oops!  Fixed.
 
2013-08-21 12:48:29 PM
Forgot the LINK
 
2013-08-21 12:48:47 PM
Christopher Lane = Trayvon Martin, both victims of a senseless act, murdered.

However Zimmerman is not = to these three f**tards...

Wether he was trying to be the big hero neighborhood cop, or just trying to keep his neighborhood safe, he was not out looking to murder someone for fun.

People like these three should, and all drive by gang related shooters who kill as well as organized crime types who kill at random, should be put down. Same thing, those who kill innocent people by random gun violence should honestly be looking right at murder 1, premeditated as they wanted to kill, and the judgement should be final.

Just because they did not know the target means little to me as their intentions result in the murder of someone. This goes for al gang and crime shootings where people are killed. Reckless gunplay resulting in death should carry the same penalty as hunting someone down and killing them. I don't care if it is gang, mafia, mob, militia...    it is all the same, someone innocent dies because of a very conscious and planned act, though the target may not be the initial target desired.

Something like this is sick. Even sicker as people try to get their tags and righteous indignation to back up political stances. Lots of trolls...
 
2013-08-21 12:49:09 PM

dr.zaeus: [i.imgur.com image 669x727]

$100, a plaid shirt, and a busted iPhone.  Now THAT'S gangsta.


It is clearly a gingham shirt.
 
2013-08-21 12:53:13 PM

Carth: That is what happens when you don't offer comprehensive sex education, stigmatize and make it difficult to obtain abortions and don't provide new parent counseling to new parents on how to raise children.


That's part of it.
Media circuses surrounding every shooter-who-snapped case.
Distant and laissez-faire parents.
Easy access to weapons.
Poor access to mental health services; poor coordination between services.
Glorification of selfishness, violence and immediacy (this is a many-headed hydra, not something pat and moral-panicky like a certain kind of media).

So many things could contribute to the idea in a young man's head that whipping out a gun and ending lives is a realistic option when bored, depressed, etc. Failsafes of society and situation make most people's minds consider the murder option preposterous. In so many cases, they are not working or were never there.
 
2013-08-21 12:53:35 PM

Turfshoe: Cold_Sassy: Glad to see that AZ has the death penalty.  Let's hope they use it.

Oklahoma might have something to say about that.


AZ: *steps in and executes suspects*

OK: Yo wtf, homes? We was gonna have a trial n shiat!

AZ: Oh. Um, my bad.
 
2013-08-21 12:53:40 PM
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dr.zaeus: [i.imgur.com image 669x727]

$100, a plaid shirt, and a busted iPhone.  Now THAT'S gangsta.


You forgot his 'thug' pose!
 
2013-08-21 12:54:39 PM

Inchoate: AngryDragon: So three black men actually becoming the "walking incarnation of danger", thereby perpetuating the stereotype should get MORE outrage. not less.

...I'm sorry if I incorrectly assumed you had black friends able and willing to talk to you about this. But I hope you do. Politely ask, and listen.

The issue of criminality among young, lower-class black men is not something that black people are magically unaware of, or something lots aren't outraged by. It's also not something they're required to individually offer atonement for, just like you are not obligated to apologize for Holmes or Lanza if you're white.


I'll ask my black girlfriend tonight and we discuss it all the time.

It's not a question of apologizing for anything.  It's an issue of DOING something about it.  The amount of apathy when it comes to dealing with the issues of family structure, culture, and deification of gang violence in the black community is staggering.  Sharpton, et. al. can get their feathers ruffled for "racism" but when there is an obvious and egregious event like this, silence.

You want to know why?  Because any black public figure who criticizes the accepted approaches to single family homes, gang culture, poverty, crime, education etc. for young African-Americans is instantly demonized by both the black and white communities.  It's disgusting.  What we are doing isn't working.  We need another MLK.
 
2013-08-21 12:56:21 PM

Carth: Witness99: This isn't about guns. This is about lack of family structure, lack of fathers for boys, parents that are either too busy or don't give a shiat. When you pop out little humans, somebody needs to provide them a wealth of love, attention and guidance. I don't think that happens very much anymore. So we get little psychopaths that could have also jumped the guy and beat him to death with rocks.

That is what happens when you don't offer comprehensive sex education, stigmatize and make it difficult to obtain abortions and don't provide new parent counseling to new parents on how to raise children.



You know that stuff hasn't been provided by governments throughout human history.
 
2013-08-21 01:03:39 PM

Magnanimous_J: For every Trayvon Martin incident, there are 17 crimes like this one. The media completely ignores most of them. The only reason we heard a word about this is because the victim was somewhat well-known as an athlete.


Next time you read some boo hoo jerk off piece about how much is sucks to when people look at you suspiciously, remember this story.

This is the normal, not the other way around.


The ratio is more like 1:100
 
2013-08-21 01:05:24 PM
Mod's working overtime? Seems a lot of comments are disappearing.
 
2013-08-21 01:06:45 PM

Inchoate: just like you are not obligated to apologize for Holmes or Lanza if you're white.


I don't think they should have to apologize for George Russell Jr (serial killer), or John Allen Muhammad (DC sniper). Some people are just defective and that can come from any family or community on the planet at any time in history. No one can control that.

This, however, is not likely the case. This is the result of broken families, poor parenting, and a toxic culture based on disrespect of others to the benefit of yourself. No one seems to want to address this beyond, "we know it goes on and we don't like it either."
 
2013-08-21 01:07:48 PM

Abuse Liability: 's actually about 2 - 5 percent of people on death row. Rape exonerations have seen rates as high as 9 percent in some areas though. We definitely don't always "get it right", but your guess was a bit off.


That's the absolute number, deeply biased by the difficulty in obtaining testing.  What's the number among those that actually get tested?

From the Innocence Project website:
"For convicts who filed for appeal or contested their ruling before getting DNA test results, there was a 14 percent reversal rate. That's identical to the reversal rate for rape and murder cases in general."  The point being that judges are resistant to reversals even when the accused is demonstrably innocent.

"As if that weren't depressing enough, convicts struggle to be released even after DNA testing - which is unbelievably difficult to attain in the first place. Twelve convicts in Garrett's sample were not granted relief by appellate courts even after preliminary DNA evidence established innocence. Forty-one convicts were only freed after an executive pardon, because there was no judicial forum for relief. "
 
2013-08-21 01:09:20 PM
Cold_Sassy:   What will work without disarming innocent law-abiding citizens is executing people who commit crimes like this instead of letting them live, because they don't deserve to live.  Seriously, WFT benefit are these three going to be to society?

First let's prove they're guilty, and not just getting railroaded.
 
2013-08-21 01:10:56 PM
Meanwhile, Ebony releases 4 different covers in September. What a pity party. Collect all 4!

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Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?
 
2013-08-21 01:14:57 PM

Vectron: Meanwhile, Ebony releases 4 different covers in September. What a pity party. Collect all 4!

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Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?


Only if you want a discussion with Eric Holder.
 
2013-08-21 01:17:46 PM
Sigh.  At least there aren't that many comments in this thread.
 
2013-08-21 01:18:26 PM
Jennifer Luna, whose son is suspected of firing the fatal shot, claimed her son was at home saying: "My son is not that way. My son is a good kid."

You can't make this shiat up.
 
2013-08-21 01:19:05 PM

Vectron: Shouldn't white people be able to commemorate the victims of black on white crime?



Absolutely. I think you should get right on that.
 
2013-08-21 01:19:39 PM

mouse fitzgerald: To the people equating this to Trayvon Martin - are you trolling, or are you really that obtuse? ...

...A white kid getting killed by 3 black kids for fun is horrible, tragic, and meaningless, but it isn't remotely the same thing. There is absolutely zero chance that these 3 kids get away with this.


Had he been on a cell phone with his "girlfriend" and told her, "I'm being followed by three creepy-ass attractive, yada, yada, yada..."), the outcry would be deafening. Sharpie and Jackson would be on red-eye flights straight to fundraisers and wherever there are cameras within 50 miles of the still-drying blood stain, making excuses about how their actions were mitigated by "black rage", etc.
 
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