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(New York Daily News)   School clerk convinced suicidal gunman to drop weapons, surrender to police instead of killing scores of children at Georgia elementary school   (nydailynews.com) divider line 134
    More: Hero, ABC World News, Antoinette Tuff, WSB-TV, Decatur, elementary schools, DeKalb County, warning shot  
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2013-08-21 11:53:13 AM  
God bless her
 
2013-08-21 11:53:25 AM  
This woman is a major hero and deserves this praise!
 
2013-08-21 11:53:34 AM  
This woman needs a medal.
 
2013-08-21 11:54:35 AM  
This is an outrage!!!  We need to ban clerks!   Oh wait...what happened?
 
2013-08-21 11:56:11 AM  
She should go buy a fark ton of lottery tickets.
 
2013-08-21 11:56:15 AM  
She will be fired in 3. 2. 1....
 
2013-08-21 11:56:16 AM  
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Haven't read any "He was such a nice boy" comments yet. WHERE ARE YOUR GRANDMOTHERS NOW?
 
2013-08-21 11:56:52 AM  
I call shenanigans.  A school front office employee who appears to be something other than fat, lazy, and disinterested about everything in life other than snack break?  There exists no such thing.
 
2013-08-21 11:57:22 AM  
She did this without being armed?  Not possible.
 
2013-08-21 11:57:41 AM  
The only thing that stops a depressed, homicidal, suicidal madman with a gun is an unarmed southern black woman with a sob story of her own.
 
2013-08-21 11:59:44 AM  
She would've been more effective if she had a gun. No, two guns.
 
2013-08-21 12:00:53 PM  
She must have had a concealed-carry gun on her. We all know that only by arming everyone can we hope to end gun violence.
 
2013-08-21 12:01:23 PM  
If only she had a gun with her, then the situation could have been escalated.
 
2013-08-21 12:01:42 PM  
Ms. Tuff? More like Ms. Tough with titanium ovaries.

And, yeah. The guy seemed more like he the depressed, lonely shooter who is crying out for attention type than anything else. Ms. Tuff did an amazing job in seeing this and getting him to calm down and relate to her on a human level. If she had not been there, who knows what horrific tragedy could have happened.
 
2013-08-21 12:02:13 PM  

Sean M: This is an outrage!!!  We need to ban clerks!   Oh wait...what happened?


Aww, but I like that movie...


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2013-08-21 12:03:13 PM  
My conclusion is this guy didnt really want to kill anyone. Maybe he thought he did when he loaded up all that firepower, but he either wised up when he got there (seems unlikely to me) or never really was going to kill anyone.

I think he just was crying for attention. And probably mentally ill.

/farking terrible for the parents that had kids there, ugh
 
2013-08-21 12:03:21 PM  
I smell a prison romance blooming
 
2013-08-21 12:03:23 PM  
Dude, don't be "that guy."  Nobody likes "that guy."
 
2013-08-21 12:04:42 PM  
The guy is already a felon, so I can only see this woman's act of talking him out of killing himself as a mistake!

We help save human beings. Not felons.

H-U-M-A-N.

F-E-L-O-N.

Both are spelled differently, and therefore, both differ in types of living organisms. The only difference is that one just LOOKS like a human being, and is useless in its existence.
 
2013-08-21 12:05:06 PM  
Did I miss it in the earlier thread, or do we not have any background info on the shooter?  Facebook etc?
 
2013-08-21 12:06:15 PM  
OK, I've changed my mind.  We need to ban ARs and similar type weapons.  I'd love to have one myself, but too many wackos are getting them and those just pose too much of a threat.
 
2013-08-21 12:06:19 PM  

FrancoFile: Did I miss it in the earlier thread, or do we not have any background info on the shooter?  Facebook etc?


Excellent point.  Clearly a false flag operation.  He's an Illuminati plant with no past.
 
2013-08-21 12:06:42 PM  

FrancoFile: Did I miss it in the earlier thread, or do we not have any background info on the shooter?  Facebook etc?


He's kind of an asshole. Collects guns, I heard.
 
2013-08-21 12:06:45 PM  
If only she'd been armed instead, the taxpayers would have been spared a lengthy and pointless show trial.
 
2013-08-21 12:08:55 PM  
I'm glad she was able to talk him down.  She was brave as hell to try to.  This situation turned out way, way better than it might have.

Of course the kid shouldn't have gotten past the front door, since there was apparently a secure door, but followed in the wake of someone who was allowed in.  Obviously the dude he followed is embarrassed as hell!
 
2013-08-21 12:09:13 PM  
She's great, but he wasn't going to kill anyone. Just wanted attention.
 
2013-08-21 12:09:45 PM  
She talked down a depressed copycat.  Please do not think that because she talked down this kid, that all individuals in these situations can be talked down.
 
2013-08-21 12:10:36 PM  
Good on her.
 
2013-08-21 12:13:22 PM  

dj_spanmaster: This woman needs a medal.


This.

Well done, Ms. Tuff. Well done indeed.
 
2013-08-21 12:14:13 PM  
Subby should be banned for miss-use of the hero tag. It is now only to be used for stories about cheese burgers.
 
2013-08-21 12:15:08 PM  

theBigBigEye: The guy is already a felon, so I can only see this woman's act of talking him out of killing himself as a mistake!

We help save human beings. Not felons.

H-U-M-A-N.

F-E-L-O-N.

Both are spelled differently, and therefore, both differ in types of living organisms. The only difference is that one just LOOKS like a human being, and is useless in its existence.


You're right. She should have riled the armed and unstable guy up for awhile just to see what happened. You're a smart one.
 
2013-08-21 12:16:00 PM  

Warthog: I call shenanigans. A school front office employee who appears to be something other than fat, lazy, and disinterested about everything in life other than snack break? There exists no such thing.


The headline should have been:
"UNION THUG PREVENTS PATRIOT FROM EXERCISING HIS SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!"
 
2013-08-21 12:16:22 PM  

doubled99: She's great, but he wasn't going to kill anyone. Just wanted attention.


Glad you can confirm that.

We sould definitely allow people who just want attention, and don't plan to kill anyone, to wander freely with loaded guns and fire off shots at police officers. What harm are they doing?
 
2013-08-21 12:17:01 PM  

willfullyobscure: FrancoFile: Did I miss it in the earlier thread, or do we not have any background info on the shooter?  Facebook etc?

He's kind of an asshole. Collects guns, I heard.


Police report from earlier in the year.

Brother called the cops, said he was making threats. Also said he has mental issues and is under a doctors care.

We've got to do something to cover the mental health-guns connection.
 
2013-08-21 12:17:55 PM  
Meh. It's a happy ending to a terrifying story, but it still would have been better if every single teacher, janitor, cook, administrator, and child were carrying their own concealed weapon. Or a couple, in the case of the adults and the huskier male students. Sure a few people would have been hit, possibly killed, in the resulting confusion/crossfire, but there's no upside to the story for the gun lobby this way. It just makes them look like a bunch of assholes. That's not fair.
 
2013-08-21 12:19:05 PM  
I bet she mentioned God or her faith while talking to him.  She should be fired.
 
2013-08-21 12:20:24 PM  

doubled99: She's great, but he wasn't going to kill anyone. Just wanted attention.


You can't know that, and neither can I.
She was brave and it was effective.
 
2013-08-21 12:20:31 PM  

FrancoFile: We've got to do something to cover the mental health-guns connection.


How about the "mental health-out in public" connection?  If he can't be trusted with guns, he can become a menace with any number of things.
 
2013-08-21 12:20:51 PM  

CygnusDarius: She would've been more effective if she had a gun. No, two guns.


How do you get more effective than "bad guy caught, no one hurt?"
 
2013-08-21 12:21:28 PM  

FrancoFile: willfullyobscure: FrancoFile: Did I miss it in the earlier thread, or do we not have any background info on the shooter?  Facebook etc?

He's kind of an asshole. Collects guns, I heard.

Police report from earlier in the year.

Brother called the cops, said he was making threats. Also said he has mental issues and is under a doctors care.

We've got to do something to cover the mental health-guns connection.


How dare you suggest that we use a person's state of health as a reason to deny them their fundamental rights under God.
 
2013-08-21 12:21:39 PM  
Take a good look.  This is what the face of a hero looks like:

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2013-08-21 12:21:40 PM  
lostcat She's great, but he wasn't going to kill anyone. Just wanted attention.

Glad you can confirm that.

We sould definitely allow people who just want attention, and don't plan to kill anyone, to wander freely with loaded guns and fire off shots at police officers. What harm are they doing?



Yeah, that's exactly what I was advocating! You're so smart!
 
2013-08-21 12:21:52 PM  

maddogdelta: Warthog: I call shenanigans. A school front office employee who appears to be something other than fat, lazy, and disinterested about everything in life other than snack break? There exists no such thing.

The headline should have been:
"UNION THUG PREVENTS PATRIOT FROM EXERCISING HIS SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!"


Came for this
 
2013-08-21 12:21:54 PM  

stevarooni: FrancoFile: We've got to do something to cover the mental health-guns connection.

How about the "mental health-out in public" connection?  If he can't be trusted with guns, he can become a menace with any number of things.


Yeah, mass murders happen with spoons and chairs and water balloons and pizza and Tootsie rolls...
 
2013-08-21 12:23:44 PM  

doubled99: lostcat She's great, but he wasn't going to kill anyone. Just wanted attention.

Glad you can confirm that.

We sould definitely allow people who just want attention, and don't plan to kill anyone, to wander freely with loaded guns and fire off shots at police officers. What harm are they doing?


Yeah, that's exactly what I was advocating! You're so smart!


Maybe you should consider how others will interpret your remarks?
 
2013-08-21 12:23:44 PM  

stevarooni: FrancoFile: We've got to do something to cover the mental health-guns connection.

How about the "mental health-out in public" connection?  If he can't be trusted with guns, he can become a menace with any number of things.


Yeah, the ACLU did a great job of turning those people loose in the 1970s - admittedly we erred on the side of institutionalizing too many people back then, but the pendulum has waaaay overswung.
 
2013-08-21 12:24:15 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: She talked down a depressed copycat.  Please do not think that because she talked down this kid, that all individuals in these situations can be talked down.


So instead anyone that does what this kid did should be shot and killed on site by frightened armed citizens?  The lives of insane, depressed, and desperate people that could be talked down in such a future scenario is worth it for the chance (a high chance) that kids lives could be spared?  That's all good and well and can be logically argued for.  But I prefer a scenario where such a choice doesn't need to be made in the first place.

Maybe we do more for mental health in this country as opposed to turning our schools into fortresses and giving everyone a gun.
 
2013-08-21 12:24:21 PM  
But...but... I've been told "The only person who can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun?"
 
2013-08-21 12:24:46 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: stevarooni: FrancoFile: We've got to do something to cover the mental health-guns connection.

How about the "mental health-out in public" connection?  If he can't be trusted with guns, he can become a menace with any number of things.

Yeah, mass murders happen with spoons and chairs and water balloons and pizza and Tootsie rolls...


And cars, and gasoline, and natural gas, and kitchen knives, and fertilizer.

There are a lot of things with which mass murder can be accomplished.  Guns can be convenient, but don't typically land the highest body count.
 
2013-08-21 12:25:36 PM  

Herbie555: But...but... I've been told "The only person who can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun?"


Then someone is intentionally lying to you, or unintentionally stating exaggerations as fact.
 
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