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(The New York Times)   Study shows when 25% of a population takes antidepressants, they're probably being overprescribed   (well.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 120
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2013-08-21 09:00:04 AM
Or society has failed. I'm putting my money on the last one.
 
2013-08-21 09:18:38 AM
this situation surely does not have anything to do with the country going head long into the sewer for the few decades.

our future is so bright i sold my shades.
 
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2013-08-21 10:11:13 AM
You don't have to have a "Major Depressive Episode" to have depression.  Not to mention that some anti-depression medication like Cymbalta is prescribed for chronic pain too.
 
2013-08-21 10:48:36 AM
You can have my Lexapro when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
 
2013-08-21 01:50:41 PM
I prefer depressants, like scotch
 
2013-08-21 01:52:04 PM

voltOhm: Or society has failed. I'm putting my money on the last one.


Oh come on, who doesn't want to spend the majority of their life in a job they hate or stuck in traffic getting to the job they hate. Nothing depressing about that.
 
2013-08-21 01:52:34 PM
If you think about it, it's quite obvious why America has the highest rates of depression and anxiety in the world.  And quite obvious that it's going to get worse.
 
2013-08-21 01:52:40 PM

Litterbox: You can have my Lexapro when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.


Ditto.
 
2013-08-21 01:53:13 PM
Or we've always had about 25 percent of the population that would benefit from anti-depressants, but the drugs hadn't been invented.
 
2013-08-21 01:53:13 PM
You try working here. Productivity goes up, pay goes down, commutes increase on deteriorating roads, and time off is a joke.

I need a Xanax just thinking about it. I'd smoke a joint, but that's illegal.
 
2013-08-21 01:53:36 PM

Litterbox: You can have my Lexapro when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.


What dosage are you on? I went up to 20 from 10 this year and I'm honestly no longer noticing a difference.
 
2013-08-21 01:53:53 PM

Meranath: Litterbox: You can have my Lexapro when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Ditto.


I switched to Celexa. The exact same effect, but there's a generic version and it costs about a nickel.
 
2013-08-21 01:54:46 PM
Learning that 1/4 of the country is prescribed antidepressants is depressing.
 
2013-08-21 01:55:06 PM

Meranath: Litterbox: You can have my Lexapro when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Ditto.


Sounds like good stuff. How do I get my hands on some?
 
2013-08-21 01:55:42 PM

MayoSlather: voltOhm: Or society has failed. I'm putting my money on the last one.

Oh come on, who doesn't want to spend the majority of their life in a job they hate or stuck in traffic getting to the job they hate. Nothing depressing about that.


clearly the solution is more pills
 
2013-08-21 01:55:44 PM
Not in my case...

How do you get a baby out of a blender?

Tortilla chips.
 
2013-08-21 01:57:14 PM

Voiceofreason01: MayoSlather: voltOhm:

clearly the solution is more pills


Good ole soma. I would love a pill that made me feel like I've had 3 beers and a shot all day, everyday.
 
2013-08-21 01:57:29 PM
So that's why everyone acts so apathetic about everything these days.  "Who cares!  It's such a beautiful day!"
 
2013-08-21 01:58:31 PM
This study depresses me.
 
2013-08-21 01:58:48 PM
Do not fark with my coffee.

Do not fark with my nighttime drinky-fun.

Do not fark with my lithium.

Yay!
 
2013-08-21 01:59:18 PM

Voiceofreason01: MayoSlather: voltOhm: Or society has failed. I'm putting my money on the last one.

Oh come on, who doesn't want to spend the majority of their life in a job they hate or stuck in traffic getting to the job they hate. Nothing depressing about that.

clearly the solution is more pills


Maybe it is the solution. Just because something comes in pill form doesn't mean it can't be awesome.
 
2013-08-21 01:59:38 PM
I would love to go through may day, out in la la land.
 
2013-08-21 02:00:22 PM
This is the result of a good marketing campaign, good lobbyist, and lazy healthcare professionals.
 
2013-08-21 02:02:03 PM
How do you make an antidepressant?

Tell her that she is well past middle age, never made anything of her life, and is going to die alone and unloved.
 
2013-08-21 02:02:39 PM
Want to get rid of the pills?  legalize pot.

You simply can't be depressed with Doritos, Mountain Dew, and Bugs Bunny.
 
2013-08-21 02:03:43 PM
OMG...that is like sooooo sad. :-(
 
2013-08-21 02:04:23 PM

Russ1642: Voiceofreason01: MayoSlather: voltOhm: Or society has failed. I'm putting my money on the last one.

Oh come on, who doesn't want to spend the majority of their life in a job they hate or stuck in traffic getting to the job they hate. Nothing depressing about that.

clearly the solution is more pills

Maybe it is the solution. Just because something comes in pill form doesn't mean it can't be awesome.


A solution via delusion. If we can just chemically alter perception enough then life might be worth living.

I don't have anything against being artificially happy; I'd just prefer the ability to live in a naturally happier world, with the option of occasionally feeling chemically happy too.
 
2013-08-21 02:04:45 PM
The other 75% just have a hangover.
 
2013-08-21 02:05:18 PM

Russ1642: Voiceofreason01: MayoSlather: voltOhm: Or society has failed. I'm putting my money on the last one.

Oh come on, who doesn't want to spend the majority of their life in a job they hate or stuck in traffic getting to the job they hate. Nothing depressing about that.

clearly the solution is more pills

Maybe it is the solution. Just because something comes in pill form doesn't mean it can't be awesome.


I agree. I was laid off and had a week to kill before the next job started.

Xanax and video games.
 
2013-08-21 02:08:19 PM
FTFA Officials noted that depressive symptoms may be a normal, transient reaction to disappointment or loss.

Sounds a lot like:
"They didn't have depression in the middle ages.  You know why you were blue, a third of the continent just f*cking died." - George Carlin
 
2013-08-21 02:09:16 PM

uncleacid: The other 75% just have a hangover.


heh i saw a sign outside a bar in dallas that said "Hate your job? There's a support group for that, it's called the bar. We meet every day"
 
2013-08-21 02:12:12 PM
The article stated that 1 in 10 Americans take antidepressant medication.
 
2013-08-21 02:12:30 PM

voltOhm: Or society has failed. I'm putting my money on the last one.


Oh good. I'm glad someone tagged this right away. Ditto certain types of other drug use, various social problems, etc.
 
2013-08-21 02:12:30 PM
Sadly exercise is under-prescribed.  Of course, the medical industry doesn't make any money off of the healthy people.
 
2013-08-21 02:12:45 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: This is the result of a good marketing campaign, good lobbyist, and lazy healthcare professionals.


It's not lazy healthcare professionals. It's a patient population who expects and demands that anytime anything is less than perfect its doctor should just fix it. It's really no different than the article a couple of days ago about antibiotics. You could have a twenty minute discussion with a patient about abuse of antibiotics, the relative rarity of bacterial infections, other causes of cough and congestion, etc, and at the end the patient will respond "So, my cousin said I need Z-packs." Except in this case it's Xanax or Lexapro or whatever drug is buying ad space this week.
 
2013-08-21 02:12:45 PM

Karma Chameleon: Litterbox: You can have my Lexapro when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

What dosage are you on? I went up to 20 from 10 this year and I'm honestly no longer noticing a difference.


Yup. Been there.

If you want to stay on the chemical route, be ready to take several months testing out others until you find one that works. It's a sparking good time.
 
2013-08-21 02:12:54 PM
Drugs are awesome
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-08-21 02:13:09 PM
Sure they are overprescribed, but there is little choice in the matter. For many, therapy is the correct choice but that takes time, money, and is often considered shameful.

The only therapy I can get right now is run by incompetent and/or inexperienced people. I can only get in maybe once every two weeks and I'm limited to an hour. The people I need are well beyond what I can pay, and I doubt that if I ever get a job with benefits they'd pay. As well, it's really difficult for people to keep going to their doctors so often without jeopardizing their jobs. And as I said before, I really doubt I could openly tell people I'm going to a psychiatrist without them thinking I'm a crazed lunatic bent on killing everyone in the office.

Let's not forget we have a society that wants instant gratification above all else.

/Because of all of those, I can't get the help I need.
 
2013-08-21 02:13:57 PM
You know what cures depression?  Money.  I had a decent amount of money for a couple years.  Least depressing time of my life.
 
2013-08-21 02:15:04 PM
its not 1/4 of all Americans. Its 1/4 of middle-aged women.

Overall usage is 1 in 10, which is on par with Iceland.
 
2013-08-21 02:15:12 PM

Marley'sGirl: Sadly exercise is under-prescribed.  Of course, the medical industry doesn't make any money off of the healthy people.


Exercise is over the counter. So is eating right and getting enough sleep.
 
2013-08-21 02:15:21 PM

orclover: You know what cures depression?  Money.  I had a decent amount of money for a couple years.  Least depressing time of my life.


Hm. Maybe I should try that.
 
2013-08-21 02:15:38 PM
I was thinking about going on antidepressants but I took the hard road of eating better and taking up running. Didn't need a therapist anymore as well.
 
2013-08-21 02:19:43 PM

Thisbymaster: I was thinking about going on antidepressants but I took the hard road of eating better and taking up running. Didn't need a therapist anymore as well.


I am pretty active (hike, sail, ski, run, whatever sounds fun). I eat somewhere between fairly healthy to extremely healthy on a regular basis.

I still have serious issues with depression. And not the "I'm kind of sad today" depression.
 
2013-08-21 02:20:32 PM
You know what's really depressing? This was a thread featured last week on the main page and now it's been greened again.

/wake up, mods
 
2013-08-21 02:21:53 PM

offmymeds: You know what's really depressing? This was a thread featured last week on the main page and now it's been greened again.

/wake up, mods


Your handle made me lulz.
 
2013-08-21 02:23:22 PM
Currently going through Effexor withdrawals....

/gettin' a kick
 
2013-08-21 02:25:41 PM

megarian: Do not fark with my coffee.

Do not fark with my nighttime drinky-fun.

Do not fark with my celexa  lithium.

Yay!

 
2013-08-21 02:27:05 PM
Thinking about trying antidepressants?

Sure, talk to your doctor, but don't stop there - do you own research - especially when it comes to the SNRI class of AD's.

For some they are like "miracle drugs" - vastly improving quality of life, but for others, the side-effects can be hell - and coming off of them can be like quitting heroin. No exaggeration.

Also, AskAPatient.com is an excellent resource for learning the experiences that others have ad with AD's or ANY pharmaceutical.

Also, your pharmacist often knows more about drugs than your doctor - ask questions and do your research. It's your health and well being that's on the line.

$.02
 
2013-08-21 02:27:08 PM

Stibium: Sure they are overprescribed, but there is little choice in the matter. For many, therapy is the correct choice but that takes time, money, and is often considered shameful.

The only therapy I can get right now is run by incompetent and/or inexperienced people. I can only get in maybe once every two weeks and I'm limited to an hour. The people I need are well beyond what I can pay, and I doubt that if I ever get a job with benefits they'd pay. As well, it's really difficult for people to keep going to their doctors so often without jeopardizing their jobs. And as I said before, I really doubt I could openly tell people I'm going to a psychiatrist without them thinking I'm a crazed lunatic bent on killing everyone in the office.

Let's not forget we have a society that wants instant gratification above all else.

/Because of all of those, I can't get the help I need.


Aside from the finances, if you dive into the article, you'll see another reason you probably have a hard time finding competent people to help you:  The article states that in one study, of some 5,600 people who were diagnosed with depression, only 38.4% actually met the criteria for depression.

Think about a doctor's/therapists office that you need to visit but can't get into.  If they're open 10 hours, They spend under 4 hours with people who actually need help, and waste the other 6 on people who need...attention?  I don't know.

Before reading, I also have an inkling that besides care not being available, many depressed people don't even bother seeking help.  It can't be an easy field to manage.
 
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