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2013-08-21 09:27:39 AM
Wow. Way to cherry pick a point of view from an article there subby. Lets look at the very next sentence following the one you chose for your headline: "And the breed has displayed below-average levels of aggression when encountering strangers."
 
2013-08-21 01:12:17 PM
I work in installation and go to a lot of people's homes, so I encounter pitbulls a lot here in southern California. Besides most of them being huge with the head of a Tyrannosaurus, they've never lunged at me or tried to attack me. But they can bark the sound of the end times if I'm on the other side of the fence.

Chihuahuas on the other hand... Vicious little monsters.
 
2013-08-21 01:12:22 PM
Most pit bulls are friendly animals.  Problem is, when they do decide to clamp down on you, they have that darn lock jaw.
 
2013-08-21 01:12:38 PM

Steve Zodiac: Wow. Way to cherry pick a point of view from an article there subby. Lets look at the very next sentence following the one you chose for your headline: "And the breed has displayed below-average levels of aggression when encountering strangers."


Hypocrisy: An anti-pitbull accusing a pro-pitbull article of cherry-picking when they themselves just did it.
 
2013-08-21 01:12:48 PM
What a pitbull actually looks like:
www.ywgrossman.com
 
2013-08-21 01:12:56 PM
 
2013-08-21 01:13:37 PM
More bad stats.  There are no statistics that one breed bites more, but let me reference some statistics anyway.

Train your dog properly, the end.
 
2013-08-21 01:14:29 PM
And dachshunds are the most aggressive against strangers _and_ their owners...

I hate the bastards.

Dachs = german for badger
Hund = german for dog

You can understand where i'm coming from.
 
2013-08-21 01:14:38 PM
I owned an English Bull Terrier for nearly 15 years. He didn't start fights, but he damn well finished them. The context is that dickless, cowardly owners would sic their dogs on him when he was on leash (prior to leash laws here). I did not actually enjoy watching him fight, but he was very good at it.

I enjoyed my interactions with the owners, however. Don't bring a human to a dog fight.
 
2013-08-21 01:15:18 PM
Friendly pit bull thread!

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-21 01:15:51 PM

HotWingConspiracy: http://abcnews.go.com/US/pet-pit-bull-kills-pregnant-woman-pacifica-c a lifornia/story?id=14289961


This is why you neuter your animals.
 
2013-08-21 01:15:51 PM
Dale!
 
2013-08-21 01:16:43 PM

Badgers: And dachshunds are the most aggressive against strangers _and_ their owners...

I hate the bastards.

Dachs = german for badger
Hund = german for dog

You can understand where i'm coming from.


Vets call them carpet sharks.
 
2013-08-21 01:16:55 PM
Because years of selective breeding to eliminate aggressive behaviour have made them gentle. Iike retrievers loving the water and fetching
 
2013-08-21 01:18:25 PM

mbillips: Friendly pit bull thread!

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where's the peanut butter??
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-21 01:20:04 PM
I can't believe Farkers don't a level head about Pit bulls.  They're so steady and logical about everything else...
 
2013-08-21 01:21:07 PM

johnny_vegas: mbillips: Friendly pit bull thread!

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where's the peanut butter??


Oh, you know.

/yes you do
//creamy
 
2013-08-21 01:21:36 PM
abcnewsradioonline.com

Now this thread is at 100%!
 
2013-08-21 01:21:36 PM
Pit bulls are harmless, as any pit bull owner will tell you.  What statistics tell you: "As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls."   [citation]
 
2013-08-21 01:22:50 PM
There is a pit bull who roams the base area at Jackson Hole and she is one of the sweetest, most loyal dogs I have ever met. Her hippie mom is pretty cute too.
 
2013-08-21 01:22:50 PM
But that still proves a point Subby. They are aggressive only to those they are trained to be aggressive towards. Raise a pitbull as a housepet away from any other dog trained for security (this is important, dogs are pack animals and can absorb aggressive behavior from other canine members of a household) and they are sweet as hell. They tend to be very laid back animals by nature.
 
2013-08-21 01:23:37 PM

Badgers: And dachshunds are the most aggressive against strangers _and_ their owners...

I hate the bastards.

Dachs = german for badger
Hund = german for dog

You can understand where i'm coming from.


My little brother has 5 of the things.  As puppies they are as cute and friendly as you could want.  Sometime after turning 2 though...something changes.  But each and every one of them turned into a sneaky, vicious calf-biter. (His always attack from behind.  Don't know if that is true for the breed or just his dogs)

At a family BBQ last summer one of his Dachshunds bit my German Shepherd on the a$$.  He turned around and b**ch-slapped that thing clear off the deck.
 
2013-08-21 01:23:41 PM
If you haven't heard it, Bill Burr's bit on owning a pit bull is hilarious (language is NSFW)
 
2013-08-21 01:24:22 PM
So you're telling me a breed that was bred for strength, power, agression, and loyalty exhibits those traits?? PSSHAAWW
 
2013-08-21 01:24:45 PM

Ker_Thwap: More bad stats.  There are no statistics that one breed bites more, but let me reference some statistics anyway.

Train your dog properly, the end.


you can train dogs these days?  I thought you just locked them in too small a space and fed them sometimes.
 
2013-08-21 01:26:32 PM
The only kind of people who like pure breed pit bulls are gangsta, ghetto, bad bad people.  They want a weapon.  Fark them and their shiat dog.

Watered down pits like a pit lab combo make wonderful pets.
 
2013-08-21 01:26:41 PM
To responsible owners, maybe. It's the ones that weren't interviewed, the ones used to make the owners look like they have tough dogs, that are the aggressive ones. I had a Staffordshire Bull terrier years back, and it was the most fawning thing you'll ever see, but there was the Engage Satan switch in its head. It always flipped when it saw a rabbit or a squirrel. It took many years of work to negate those tendencies. Some dogs are more prone to aggression though, anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.
 
2013-08-21 01:26:47 PM

hammettman: As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls."


The only takeaway from that line is that there is no reason to worry about spontaneous dog attacks at all no matter the breed... unless non-fatal injuries are very high and severe or something, anyway...
 
2013-08-21 01:28:20 PM
Crappy owners raise bad dogs. Large breed or "dangerous" breed dogs raised well are indistinguishable from your lab or retriever. Tiny dogs are known to be vicious or loud little things because the owner is less bothered to curb bad behaviour when their dog is the size of a shoe.

// has a king shepherd
 
2013-08-21 01:28:42 PM

hammettman: Pit bulls are harmless, as any pit bull owner will tell you.  What statistics tell you: "As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls."   [citation]


also from your cited article:

Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant (see above).Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack.
 
2013-08-21 01:29:18 PM

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Most pit bulls are friendly animals.  Problem is, when they do decide to clamp down on you, they have that darn lock jaw.


Yeah I'd be a lot more worried in the event one of these dogs does snap for whatever reason and attacks. A dachshund? You can kick it down the street if it acts like an asshole.
 
2013-08-21 01:29:35 PM

JerkyMeat: The only kind of people who like pure breed pit bulls are gangsta, ghetto, bad bad people.


you are such a cute, illiterate racist
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-21 01:29:54 PM

skozlaw: hammettman: As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls."

The only takeaway from that line is that there is no reason to worry about spontaneous dog attacks at all no matter the breed... unless non-fatal injuries are very high and severe or something, anyway...


The day of the year is 233.

So, the rate of dog attack deaths is about .06 per day.  Or about .0557 pit bull attack deaths per day.

Yikes... I better buy some insurance.
 
2013-08-21 01:30:00 PM
Pit bulls are wonderful dogs until something makes them "snap".
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-21 01:30:34 PM

d23: skozlaw: hammettman: As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls."

The only takeaway from that line is that there is no reason to worry about spontaneous dog attacks at all no matter the breed... unless non-fatal injuries are very high and severe or something, anyway...

The day of the year is 233.

So, the rate of dog attack deaths is about .06 per day.  Or about .0557 pit bull attack deaths per day.

Yikes... I better buy some insurance.


I missed the actual day here.. but you get the idea.
 
2013-08-21 01:30:40 PM

Digitalstrange: But that still proves a point Subby. They are aggressive only to those they are trained to be aggressive towards. Raise a pitbull as a housepet away from any other dog trained for security (this is important, dogs are pack animals and can absorb aggressive behavior from other canine members of a household) and they are sweet as hell. They tend to be very laid back animals by nature.


I have a Pit mix, and he is not at all aggressive toward people. On the contrary, he thinks people are the most awesome thing ever, and come to my house solely to see him and scratch his belly. On the rare occasion when he has not fallen instantly in love with a stranger, his immediate (and so far only) reaction is to stand between me and the person he doesn't like, and watch them. That's it. No growling, no barking, no baring of teeth. Just passive protection. Every time that has happened, the person on the receiving end of his stare has been smart enough to give him his space. But in the 11 years I've had him, that's happened maybe 5 times, and they were always strangers that came to the door wanting something.

Where I do have problems with him is with other dogs, and small animals. He's a great ratter, and he hates other male dogs with a fiery passion. Part of that is breed, part of it is his past (he was nearly killed by a pack of older male dogs when he was a puppy). So when he's around other animals, I watch him like a hawk.

Pits are awesome dogs, and I would have another mix or full blood in a heartbeat. But they require a LOT of attention and training and structure. One of the biggest mistakes people make is having more than one of them at time. As the only Pit in the household, with an owner who is aware of their needs, you won't find a sweeter, more affectionate, more loyal dog anywhere.
 
2013-08-21 01:30:49 PM
Pit Bulls are generally (GENERALLY) dog aggressive but not human aggressive, since dog fighters want a dog that they can handle.

That said, treat them nice, they'll be perfectly good dogs. Wasn't there a story here on Fark a couple of years ago about how the city of Toronto banned the breed, and instead of incidences of dog bites going down as expected, it was just other dogs picking up the slack?

Pit Bulls aren't more likely to bite you, but they are more likely to be owned by shiatty owners. It's as simple as that. In another decade or so, another breed will be popular with shiatty owners, and that breed will get a bad rap. Happened with dobermans, happened with rottweillers.
 
2013-08-21 01:33:16 PM
The 'ankle biters' are more agressive. But, when was the last time you read an article about a dachshund or a chihuahua trying to tear someones throat out?
 
2013-08-21 01:33:31 PM

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Most pit bulls are friendly animals.  Problem is, when they do decide to clamp down on you, they have that darn lock jaw.


Another bullshiat pit bull rumor. Pit bulls don't have special jaw bones.
 
2013-08-21 01:33:35 PM

Vectron: Pit bulls are wonderful dogs until something makes them "snap".


existential angst?
 
2013-08-21 01:35:22 PM
Several of my neighbors have pit bulls that they take for walks, and the No. 1 danger from them is being love-mauled. I have yet to meet a skitty pit bull that had a normal owner. The dangerous ones are made that way by bad people.

www.swaylove.org
 
2013-08-21 01:36:12 PM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2013-08-21 01:37:00 PM
Bob Doggs, my son's rescue pit - nicest, sweetest, friendliest dog evar... until he ate my geriatric ridgeback mix... I thought all the pit rhetoric was BS until I had to clean the blood off the walls and ceiling.... Maybe not agressive to people, but show him a weak animal and dayum!  Glad it wasn't a little kid or handicapped person though.
 
2013-08-21 01:37:12 PM
Ker_Thwap:


Train your dog properly, the end.

THISTHISTHISTHIS

I like pit bulls, but even if they're not specifically trained to attack they can still be aggressive if they get over-excited and aren't trained to control themselves.  One such doggy almost took my boy's leg off, even though they were just playing.

/owners decided it was "too expensive" to train the dog, even after she bit my kid
//dog went on to bite an even littler kid a few days later
///dog's dead, owners are in court
 
2013-08-21 01:37:37 PM

Broom: Some Coke Drinking Guy: Most pit bulls are friendly animals.  Problem is, when they do decide to clamp down on you, they have that darn lock jaw.

Another bullshiat pit bull rumor. Pit bulls don't have special jaw bones.


Don't they have an extra muscle in their leg that lets them jump higher though? And their vaginas go sideways, right?
 
2013-08-21 01:37:42 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: I work in installation and go to a lot of people's homes, so I encounter pitbulls a lot here in southern California. Besides most of them being huge with the head of a Tyrannosaurus, they've never lunged at me or tried to attack me. But they can bark the sound of the end times if I'm on the other side of the fence.

Chihuahuas on the other hand... Vicious little monsters.


Comparing a pit bull to a Chihuahua is like comparing a hand grenade to a Nerf gun. The odds of getting shot with a Nerf gun in your lifetime are significantly higher, but the odds of surviving one or the other doesn't even merit comparison. The problem with pit bulls has never been about how often they bite but what happens when they do. The answer seems pretty simple to me: your dog attacks someone, you go to prison for whatever the damage is. If your pit bull attacks someone, you go to prison for murder. If my Chihuahua attacks someone, I go to prison for whatever the law is against failed attempts to break skin.
 
2013-08-21 01:38:38 PM

mbillips: Friendly pit bull thread!

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Can I lick her, too?

Anyway, I've met quite a few pit bulls in my day and, without exception, the first thing they wanted to do upon meeting me was show off their favorite toys.  Several then ran around in circles in the yard to show me how fast they were.  One had a habit of [very gingerly] pulling on pant legs to take people out to the yard to play.  If they didn't follow her, she'd go flat with devastation.  Like a whining bear skin rug with twitchy eyebrows.  Then the other dog would come over and lick her face until she could pull herself together.
 
2013-08-21 01:39:26 PM

mbillips: Several of my neighbors have pit bulls that they take for walks, and the No. 1 danger from them is being love-mauled. I have yet to meet a skitty pit bull that had a normal owner. The dangerous ones are made that way by bad people.


That dog has some awesome eyebrows.
 
2013-08-21 01:40:13 PM

HotWingConspiracy: http://abcnews.go.com/US/pet-pit-bull-kills-pregnant-woman-pacifica-c a lifornia/story?id=14289961


Look how wrong you are. She actually dies from a head wound falling off a ladder. But nice attempt at the fear mongering.
 
2013-08-21 01:41:06 PM
Dog bites by breed:
Pit Bulls are not at the top...Cocker Spaniels are actually the dog most likely to bite you. And, one must keep in mind that there are 26 breeds of dog commonly mistaken for "Pit Bulls", which means that the actual number listed as pit bite statistics is likely much lower when considering the dog in question is likely NOT an actual APBT. According to these statistics, Pit Bull type dogs and Rottweilers do the most damage when they do bite, which is understandable, considering their size and strength.
 
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