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(WISTV)   Columbia, South Carolina makes homelessness a crime. "Now all we need to do is tell them to get off the street." PROBLEM SOLVED   (wistv.com) divider line 72
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2013-08-21 10:22:46 AM
Well it's already a crime for them to build a cheap shelter for themselves or some sort of hut or hovel so just take it to the next level.
 
2013-08-21 12:09:20 PM
This sounds like a dangerous situation that might make desperate people do drastic things.

I wonder who will draw first blood.
 
2013-08-21 12:09:27 PM
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses.....
 
2013-08-21 12:09:27 PM
A beautiful woman is standing on a bridge, looking over the side and thinking about jumping off.

A homeless man walks up to her.

She sees the man coming and says, "Go away! There's nothing you can say to change my mind!"

He says, "Well, if you're going to kill yourself anyway, why don't we have sex? At least I'll enjoy it."

"Absolutely not! You're disgusting!", she replies.

The man turns and starts walking away.

"Is that all you're going to say? You're not going to try to convince me that life is worth living? Where are you going?"

"I have to make it down to the bottom. If I hurry, you'll still be warm!", he says.
 
2013-08-21 12:09:41 PM
To be fair, there are some mentally damaged individuals with alcohol dependency issues in Columbia, SC.

And I don't mean the homeless people.
 
2013-08-21 12:11:29 PM

SuburbanCowboy: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses.....


It's the new 'murica.
 
2013-08-21 12:12:53 PM

Resident Muslim: This sounds like a dangerous situation that might make desperate people do drastic things.

I wonder who will draw first blood.


The ACLU. This shiat has been tried a hundred times, a hundred places.
Stupid yokels.
 
2013-08-21 12:12:55 PM
Just convert a mausoleum into a shelter, everyone can have their own slab.
 
2013-08-21 12:13:11 PM
This is one of the biggest issues in America, we freak out about the symptom, not the problem. The issues to be addressed aren't homelessness, or poverty, or crime. The issues are education, mental health access, and equality. Three things at which South Carolina sucks massively.
 
2013-08-21 12:13:47 PM
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2013-08-21 12:14:10 PM
I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.
 
2013-08-21 12:14:26 PM

SuburbanCowboy: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses.....


That will be the slogan for Soylent Green.
 
2013-08-21 12:15:19 PM

Resident Muslim: This sounds like a dangerous situation that might make desperate people do drastic things.

I wonder who will draw first blood.


Not me!
 
2013-08-21 12:16:12 PM
If these people didn't want to be homeless they should have done the hard work necessary to not be mentally ill. But they were lazy and now the rest of us have to support them.
 
2013-08-21 12:16:17 PM

Farce-Side: I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.


So basically subby is an idiot troll and the mods are asleep again.
 
2013-08-21 12:17:20 PM
Smitty: Is today opposite day? I read the article, and I see nothing even remotely similar to your headline.

/and is your last name Werbenmanjensen?
//were you number one?
 
2013-08-21 12:18:02 PM
South Carolina is a sh*thole, and it's not because of the homeless or the poor.
 
2013-08-21 12:18:02 PM

Gonz: To be fair, there are some mentally damaged individuals with alcohol dependency issues in Columbia, SC.

And I don't mean the homeless people.


Hey now, I haven't been in Columbia, SC in 4 years.

/oh wait
//shiat
 
2013-08-21 12:18:41 PM

SuburbanCowboy: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses.....


That's how you wind up with Hoboken, New Jersey.

FTFA: "We have to understand that the only cure for poverty is commerce," he says. "That is the only true response to poverty, to get people out of poverty. So if poverty is left unchecked, it will destroy commerce. So we've got to protect commerce to have a response to poverty."

Why is he trying to be Mark Twain?
 
2013-08-21 12:18:55 PM
I love misleading headlines!
 
2013-08-21 12:20:01 PM

Farce-Side: I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.


The downside to the mild summer we have had in SC this year. No 100 plus degree weeklong streaks to thin out the homeless herd. and our winters are never cold enough to do the job.
 
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2013-08-21 12:20:18 PM

mike_d85: SuburbanCowboy: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses.....

That's how you wind up with Hoboken, New Jersey.

FTFA: "We have to understand that the only cure for poverty is commerce," he says. "That is the only true response to poverty, to get people out of poverty. So if poverty is left unchecked, it will destroy commerce. So we've got to protect commerce to have a response to poverty."

Why is he trying to be Mark Twain?


Don't give a job to a homeless person though.  They're smelly.

//every H.R. person ever.
 
2013-08-21 12:20:47 PM

Persnickety: Farce-Side: I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.

So basically subby is an idiot troll and the mods are asleep again.


Well, to be fair the article did both talk about the homeless and police, so obviously that means that people are being arrested for being homeless.
 
2013-08-21 12:23:14 PM

Farce-Side: I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.


I could see how subby would think moving them out of the area would make it seem like a crime.  That's what we do with all of the illegal imma- oh... wait...
 
2013-08-21 12:25:55 PM

Farce-Side: I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.


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2013-08-21 12:26:52 PM
Meh. If old movies have taught me anything its that this isn't really a problem. The homeless in SC will just tie a blanket to a string, hop on an empty boxcar and jump off in another state. The residents of the new town they come into will be suspicious and rude, at first. But, at the lowest moment, they'll be presented with an opportunity to redeam themselves, like saving a baby from a well, or beating up an attacker who was trying to rape the mayor's daughter. The police will think that the homeless man is the suspect, but the mayor's daughter will throw herself to protect him and let the local sheriffs know that he actually SAVED her. Meanwhile, evidence left at the scene will reveal that the real rapist is actually a powerful socialite who has been the leader of the towns anti-homelessness movement. He tries to run, but after a breif struggle with the homeless man, who is now a hero, he is brought to justice.

Fast forward to a year later...the homeless man, who is now married to the mayor's daughter, is in charge of a state-of-the-art center where the homeless from across the nation come to be treated with dignity and get job training. He'll go back to South Carolina for a business meeting where he'll meet face-to-face with the legislator who ran him out of town. The legislator, knowing that he's been defeated, is about to speak when the homeless man interups and says, "thank you for not believing in me". Then, he casually walks down the hall to go to his meeting. The legislator stands, with a look on his face that lets
you know he now understands the error of his ways.


/scene
 
2013-08-21 12:28:28 PM
FTFA: ""That is the only true response to poverty, to get people out of poverty. "

What a bunch of monsters

/submitter is misrepresenting the article.
 
2013-08-21 12:29:10 PM
It's de facto illegal to be homeless many places due to prohibitions on sleeping outside or in a vehicle anywhere other than a designated campground.
 
2013-08-21 12:31:08 PM
So homeless people get arrested and go to jail, where they get a free bed, free food, free healthcare...
 
2013-08-21 12:31:14 PM

mike_d85: SuburbanCowboy: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses.....

That's how you wind up with Hoboken, New Jersey.

FTFA: "We have to understand that the only cure for poverty is commerce," he says. "That is the only true response to poverty, to get people out of poverty. So if poverty is left unchecked, it will destroy commerce. So we've got to protect commerce to have a response to poverty."

Why is he trying to be Mark Twain?


except he isn't doing this ironically

Persnickety: Farce-Side: I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.

So basically subby is an idiot troll and the mods are asleep again.


Nope, the article might not dwell on it but they are in fact making homelessness illegal as part of the plan. See the shelters are quite out of the way of downtown (which is the point, they want to clean up downtown for business) which means the homeless won't want to go there most of the time because they need to be downtown to panhandle properly. They will take their chances on getting a bed at the Oliver St Gospel mission (there have been subtle attempts to get it closed but you have to be careful attacking a historically well known charity mission group, that's hard on your "man of the people" image) conveniently located downtown or sleep on the street (which isn't a death sentence in Columbia even in Dec and Jan) with the new law the cops can bully them into accepting a "complimentary" ride to the shelter.
 
2013-08-21 12:32:00 PM

Itstoearly: So homeless people get arrested and go to jail, where they get a free bed, free food, free healthcare...


At a corporate run prison funded through tax payer dollars no less.

Ain't Ameruca grand!
 
2013-08-21 12:32:20 PM

Itstoearly: So homeless people get arrested and go to jail, where they get a free bed, free food, free healthcare...



...restriction of movement, abuse, ass rape...its a paradise.
 
2013-08-21 12:32:43 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Meh. If old movies have taught me anything its that this isn't really a problem. The homeless in SC will just tie a blanket to a string, hop on an empty boxcar and jump off in another state. The residents of the new town they come into will be suspicious and rude, at first. But, at the lowest moment, they'll be presented with an opportunity to redeam themselves, like saving a baby from a well, or beating up an attacker who was trying to rape the mayor's daughter. The police will think that the homeless man is the suspect, but the mayor's daughter will throw herself to protect him and let the local sheriffs know that he actually SAVED her. Meanwhile, evidence left at the scene will reveal that the real rapist is actually a powerful socialite who has been the leader of the towns anti-homelessness movement. He tries to run, but after a breif struggle with the homeless man, who is now a hero, he is brought to justice.

Fast forward to a year later...the homeless man, who is now married to the mayor's daughter, is in charge of a state-of-the-art center where the homeless from across the nation come to be treated with dignity and get job training. He'll go back to South Carolina for a business meeting where he'll meet face-to-face with the legislator who ran him out of town. The legislator, knowing that he's been defeated, is about to speak when the homeless man interups and says, "thank you for not believing in me". Then, he casually walks down the hall to go to his meeting. The legislator stands, with a look on his face that lets
you know he now understands the error of his ways.


/scene


Meh.   Modern movies have taught me that it will end in gunfire, CGI explosions, lens flare and gratuitous nude scenes.
 
2013-08-21 12:32:54 PM

Persnickety: Farce-Side: I see nobody read the article.  It doesn't state anywhere that being homeless is going to be a crime.  It says that council voted to open a temporary shelter away from the downtown area to provide housing and meals to the homeless so they won't congregate in front of businesses.  Then it talks about the increase in the homeless population downtown, and how it has brought with it increased crime and drug problems.

So basically subby is an idiot troll and the mods are asleep again.


Pretty much. The article I read in no way validates the headline given.
 
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2013-08-21 12:34:26 PM

Wellon Dowd: If these people didn't want to be homeless they should have done the hard work necessary to not be mentally ill. But they were lazy and now the rest of us have to support them.


Whatta dumbass.
 
2013-08-21 12:35:38 PM

SuburbanCowboy: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses.....


...  I need to fill positions for my for private prison labor force.
 
2013-08-21 12:37:46 PM

Wellon Dowd: If these people didn't want to be homeless they should have done the hard work necessary to not be mentally ill. But they were lazy and now the rest of us have to support them.


You should stick to posting tits
 
2013-08-21 12:38:05 PM
The South. Where "Christian" charity goes to die.

Bootstraps are just a euphemism for shaving straps, i.e., the whip.
 
2013-08-21 12:38:30 PM
Quite a few cities would be happy to extradite, without even be asked, their criminalized homeless to Columbia SC or just Columbia anywhere.

We never thank this war hero enough for his help in making homeless a household word.

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-08-21 12:39:49 PM

toraque: DROxINxTHExWIND: Meh. If old movies have taught me anything its that this isn't really a problem. The homeless in SC will just tie a blanket to a string, hop on an empty boxcar and jump off in another state. The residents of the new town they come into will be suspicious and rude, at first. But, at the lowest moment, they'll be presented with an opportunity to redeam themselves, like saving a baby from a well, or beating up an attacker who was trying to rape the mayor's daughter. The police will think that the homeless man is the suspect, but the mayor's daughter will throw herself to protect him and let the local sheriffs know that he actually SAVED her. Meanwhile, evidence left at the scene will reveal that the real rapist is actually a powerful socialite who has been the leader of the towns anti-homelessness movement. He tries to run, but after a breif struggle with the homeless man, who is now a hero, he is brought to justice.

Fast forward to a year later...the homeless man, who is now married to the mayor's daughter, is in charge of a state-of-the-art center where the homeless from across the nation come to be treated with dignity and get job training. He'll go back to South Carolina for a business meeting where he'll meet face-to-face with the legislator who ran him out of town. The legislator, knowing that he's been defeated, is about to speak when the homeless man interups and says, "thank you for not believing in me". Then, he casually walks down the hall to go to his meeting. The legislator stands, with a look on his face that lets
you know he now understands the error of his ways.


/scene

Meh.   Modern movies have taught me that it will end in gunfire, CGI explosions, lens flare and gratuitous nude scenes.


Approves:
 
2013-08-21 12:41:40 PM
media.screened.com
 
2013-08-21 12:44:01 PM
www.solpass.org
This is a repeat from1890.
 
2013-08-21 12:47:11 PM

jso2897: Resident Muslim: This sounds like a dangerous situation that might make desperate people do drastic things.

I wonder who will draw first blood.

The ACLU. This shiat has been tried a hundred times, a hundred places.
Stupid yokels.


Considering the number of homeless vets, SC should be falling over themselves to help. Oh wait, they only suck active military cock. Once you're a vet, you are just leeching off the government teat. Unless it's a holiday, where we pretend to honor our vets.

My friend's mother ripped their hometown (and state I'll wager) a new one on veteran's day. She basically said if they had been as willing to help him as they pretended her son might still be alive. Instead he was shunned, hidden, because he had mental trouble after the battles.

Yay America!
 
2013-08-21 12:51:46 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Itstoearly: So homeless people get arrested and go to jail, where they get a free bed, free food, free healthcare...


...restriction of movement, abuse, ass rape...its a paradise.


Not at all. They aren't being taken to jail, just to a homeless shelter out of downtown. Yes they will get a bed and a meal, I doubt there will be much in the way of healthcare though.

If this shelter is being run with an eye towards giving them a place to clean up and maybe work for the percentage of folks who genuinely hit hard luck (vs the mentally ill) it may be a wonderful thing. More than likely it will be run with an eye towards making being homeless in Columbia enough of a hassle to make them move on and be a problem in some other city. I will be shocked if there isn't an investigation that turns up bus tickets being quietly slipped to troublesome repeat visitors
 
2013-08-21 12:52:29 PM
"We have to understand that the only cure for poverty is commerce," he says. "That is the only true response to poverty, to get people out of poverty. So if poverty is left unchecked, it will destroy commerce. So we've got to protect commerce to have a response to poverty."

Circular logic?

Some correlation equal causation false logic too?
 
2013-08-21 12:56:19 PM

Wellon Dowd: If these people didn't want to be homeless they should have done the hard work necessary to not be mentally ill. But they were lazy and now the rest of us have to support them.


I can't believe you're getting bites with that crumb of wonderbread.
 
2013-08-21 12:58:59 PM
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Vagrancy: 3 weeks Iso-Cube.  How do you plead?


 
2013-08-21 12:59:39 PM

INeedAName: The issues are education, mental health access, and equality. Three things at which South Carolina sucks massively.

You just named three things that can't be fixed in a single election cycle. So good luck with that.
 
2013-08-21 01:01:15 PM
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So, what would you guys do with a population of people who are penniless and have nowhere to sleep? and many of them have mental disorders or addictions.
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2013-08-21 01:07:05 PM
I hear Canada has lots of room and lax immigration policies and the homeless may be less crazy than Québécois
 
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