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(Mirror.co.uk)   See girls, doing 15 years in a Peruvian prison doesn't sound so bad for 'not' knowing what you had in your luggage at the airport   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 55
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2013-08-21 11:38:00 AM
Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?
 
2013-08-21 11:40:58 AM
But police do not believe the girls' story, and prosecutors are thought to want them to serve the maximum prison term after becoming frustrated with their version of events.

Translation: The drug cartel paid off police and prosecutors.
 
2013-08-21 11:41:00 AM
Suddenly that free vacation is no longer sounding like such a good deal, is it, ladies?
 
2013-08-21 11:42:52 AM
Hey, at least it wasn't Thailand or one of those other places in Asia where the automatic sentence for something like this is death.
 
2013-08-21 11:44:06 AM

guytoronto: But police do not believe the girls' story, and prosecutors are thought to want them to serve the maximum prison term after becoming frustrated with their version of events.

Translation: The drug cartel paid off police and prosecutors.


Translation: Their story made no sense.
 
2013-08-21 11:46:08 AM
Pick a story and stick with it ladies.
 
2013-08-21 11:46:13 AM

namegoeshere: Suddenly that free vacation is no longer sounding like such a good deal, is it, ladies?


Any bets if during any time during their stay one of them said "This place is awesome! I wish we could stay here forever."?
 
2013-08-21 11:47:26 AM
i171.photobucket.com

Agrees.
 
2013-08-21 11:48:31 AM

Warthog: Hey, at least it wasn't Thailand or one of those other places in Asia where the automatic sentence for something like this is death.


Singapore Landing Card:

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2013-08-21 11:50:01 AM
Mmmmm...boobs.
 
2013-08-21 11:51:24 AM
themellowjihadi.com

Whoah, yeah, party time, whoohooo! Got any coke?!
 
2013-08-21 11:51:36 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

The pair are being held in a local women's prison, but if convicted they are likely to be sent to a notorious women's jail called Santa Monica in Chorrillos.

The prison was built for just 250 women but now houses more than 1,000 in filthy conditions  in which HIV and tuberculosis  are rife.



Oh, they are going to LOVE you...
 
2013-08-21 11:52:35 AM
Didnt this happen once before already? I seem to remember one girl getting out of prison recently while the other finished her sentence.
 
2013-08-21 11:52:52 AM

wingding: Mmmmm...boobs.


I'm sure they will be popular in prison with those perky boobs!
 
2013-08-21 11:53:39 AM
24 POUNDS of Peruvian toot.

Eff me running.

Way to go, ladies.
 
2013-08-21 11:54:26 AM

ZzeusS: The pair are being held in a local women's prison, but if convicted they are likely to be sent to a notorious women's jail called Santa Monica in Chorrillos.

The prison was built for just 250 women but now houses more than 1,000 in filthy conditions  in which HIV and tuberculosis  are rife.


Oh, they are going to LOVE you...


Karma (chameleon)'s a biatch

/sucks to be them
 
2013-08-21 11:55:00 AM
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2013-08-21 11:56:59 AM
I'd stuff her luggage..

i4.mirror.co.uk
 
2013-08-21 11:57:22 AM

ZzeusS: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x534]

The pair are being held in a local women's prison, but if convicted they are likely to be sent to a notorious women's jail called Santa Monica in Chorrillos.

...


Now I have that song stuck in my head
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2013-08-21 12:01:02 PM
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2013-08-21 12:02:12 PM
On the one hand the fact that they had 24 POUNDS of coke leads me to believe they were mulin' for somebody not in business for themselves,  but the question is, how "involuntary" was it?  If you are a major cartel which makes more sense: Use a drug courier you are paying extremely well for whom you can create false identities with ease, or kidnap random women and force them to mule for you?
 
2013-08-21 12:02:15 PM

ZzeusS: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x534]

The pair are being held in a local women's prison, but if convicted they are likely to be sent to a notorious women's jail called Santa Monica in Chorrillos.

The prison was built for just 250 women but now houses more than 1,000 in filthy conditions  in which HIV and tuberculosis  are rife.


Oh, they are going to LOVE you...


I think it is astounding that they know it is run by gangs and corrupt guards and rather than clean it up they use it as a harsher punishment.
 
2013-08-21 12:10:07 PM

AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?


I suppose that the cartels would have told you up front, "Don;t bother going to security or the police, we own them and they'll just turn you over to us."  In a foreign country, where one would presume corruption is everywhere, I'd be more than a tad concerned going to the "authorities."
 
2013-08-21 12:11:12 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

"You wanted to be in the game, right? Now you're in the game."

/levy'ed
//hotshot
 
2013-08-21 12:14:32 PM
Kinda feel bad for them.

What are the chances they will serve time in prison without getting raped by the cops or the male guards?

There was an episode of Locked up Abroad where a MAN was raped by the cops in South American.
 
2013-08-21 12:15:27 PM

ZzeusS: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x534]

The pair are being held in a local women's prison, but if convicted they are likely to be sent to a notorious women's jail called Santa Monica in Chorrillos.

The prison was built for just 250 women but now houses more than 1,000 in filthy conditions  in which HIV and tuberculosis  are rife.


Oh, they are going to LOVE you...


Karma Chameleon?
 
2013-08-21 12:16:05 PM
On a more serious note, I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the first time these ladies muled for the cartel. Probably started them off on something "small", like a pound o' yeyo, then gradually upped the quantity. Seems odd that they would be given 24 pounds to smuggle for their first time at bat.

Then again, if they routinely traveled to Peru together, I guess that would show up in the investigation for this specific bust, so maybe somebody took a gamble and is being beat to shiat right about now.
 
2013-08-21 12:16:20 PM
Hey, I saw that movie. Good flick.
 
2013-08-21 12:16:45 PM

Valeriyance: ZzeusS: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x534]

The pair are being held in a local women's prison, but if convicted they are likely to be sent to a notorious women's jail called Santa Monica in Chorrillos.

The prison was built for just 250 women but now houses more than 1,000 in filthy conditions  in which HIV and tuberculosis  are rife.


Oh, they are going to LOVE you...

Karma Chameleon?


Need to finish reading the comments before I post.
 
2013-08-21 12:18:39 PM

AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?


Do they ask you that everywhere?  I thought it was a US thing.
 
2013-08-21 12:23:21 PM
They claim they were kidnapped by a South American drugs gang while working on the Spanish Island of Ibiza and forced at gunpoint to traffic the cocaine.

This I don't understand.  Peruvian drug cartels are going to Ibiza and kidnapping people and bringing them back?  If they traveled from Ibiza to Peru, there would be some evidence of that somewhere.  And they didn't have any opportunities to escape or notify authorities during that trip?  Ibiza and Peru are on two different continents and the trip involves crossing the Atlantic.
 
2013-08-21 12:30:24 PM
make an example of the women by making them serve time in the notorious Santa Monica prison
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Oh the horror!
 
2013-08-21 12:38:12 PM

jst3p: ZzeusS: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x534]

The pair are being held in a local women's prison, but if convicted they are likely to be sent to a notorious women's jail called Santa Monica in Chorrillos.

The prison was built for just 250 women but now houses more than 1,000 in filthy conditions  in which HIV and tuberculosis  are rife.


Oh, they are going to LOVE you...

I think it is astounding that they know it is run by gangs and corrupt guards and rather than clean it up they use it as a harsher punishment.


Then you haven't been paying attention.  They exact same thing happens in the US, prosecutors often cut plea deals and obtain confessions just by threatening to send the suspect to one of the worst prisions in their jurisdiction if convicted.
 
2013-08-21 12:41:33 PM

Oliver Twisted: AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?

Do they ask you that everywhere?  I thought it was a US thing.


They don't, but you are often asked "Do you have anything to declare?" at which point they could have confessed and likely still seen a prison but for much less and much easier time
 
2013-08-21 12:44:34 PM

Onkel Buck: Didnt this happen once before already? I seem to remember one girl getting out of prison recently while the other finished her sentence.


You're thinking of the Claire Danes movie Brokedown Palace

But there is an actual case of  two American girls who got caught. They were given reduced sentences of 6 years because they were willing to help in the prosecution of the cartel higher-ups. They were paroled after serving 1/3 of their sentences. One described her two years in Santa Monica as "a nightmare in hell."

About the prison:

"Ralph Ruebner, a professor at John Marshall Law School who has been one of the lawyers for the women, visited them in April 1997 while they were incarcerated.

"I can tell you, sanitation is unheard of," Ruebner said Wednesday. "Running water is unavailable. There is no electricity. There is infestation of rats and other animals. Insects are a problem. Basically, in these prisons there is no available food that is edible and no water that is drinkable."
Inmates survive on food and supplies provided by families on the outside, he said "


"Disease, hunger, poor medical care, sexual blackmail, rape, robbery, violence, drug use-- Peru's prisons are hell "
 
2013-08-21 12:46:53 PM

SlothB77: They claim they were kidnapped by a South American drugs gang while working on the Spanish Island of Ibiza and forced at gunpoint to traffic the cocaine.

This I don't understand.  Peruvian drug cartels are going to Ibiza and kidnapping people and bringing them back?  If they traveled from Ibiza to Peru, there would be some evidence of that somewhere.  And they didn't have any opportunities to escape or notify authorities during that trip?  Ibiza and Peru are on two different continents and the trip involves crossing the Atlantic.


I understood it to mean "20-something white female drug smuggler lied about why".
 
2013-08-21 12:47:19 PM

danielscissorhands: Kinda feel bad for them.

What are the chances they will serve time in prison without getting raped by the cops or the male guards?

There was an episode of Locked up Abroad where a MAN was raped by the cops in South American.



Locked Up Abroad reeeeeally needs to be required viewing before one is allowed to obtain a passport.
 
2013-08-21 12:56:13 PM

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You sound old.

/same as me, that was my first thought too
 
2013-08-21 01:12:17 PM
"See girls, doing 15 years and leaves"
 
PJ-
2013-08-21 01:38:21 PM
Odds are, the pics you see of them hanging out on a boat and enjoying the finer things in life are most likely them hanging out with some cartel members.  After they had their fun, cartel turned and said 'all right ladies, now that you've had fun, time to pay us back'.

Cartels don't need to forge anything, they either grab some poor people off the street, load them up with drugs and send them towards the border.  If it doesn't make it through, not the end of the world, but if one does make it through, it's a big pay-day with very little overhead.  From what I understand, if one mule makes it out of twenty, there is still a very hefty payday.
 
2013-08-21 02:04:59 PM
FTA: "The girls [...] Reid and Connolly, both 20, ..."
stopped reading there
 
2013-08-21 02:18:25 PM

AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?


Pretty hard when you packed your bag full of drugs and are not acting under duress.
 
2013-08-21 03:27:01 PM

IRQ12: AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?

Pretty hard when you packed your bag full of drugs and are not acting under duress.


Unless the cartels made credible threats against their families.   Those guys go in for beheading; you think a little blackmail is above them?

/Drug Warriors have a lot to answer for
 
2013-08-21 03:45:53 PM

PunGent: IRQ12: AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?

Pretty hard when you packed your bag full of drugs and are not acting under duress.

Unless the cartels made credible threats against their families.   Those guys go in for beheading; you think a little blackmail is above them?

/Drug Warriors have a lot to answer for


No I don't doubt that is plausible but the "free trip and X$" mule thing is a lot more plausible seeing as it has been done a lot.  There's even a link above with pretty much the exact same story where the person admits to the scheme.

If there was an coercion it was probably them trying to back out after they were there.  Just guessing but I think what the person above said is the most likely scenario, they've done it before and are just using that as an excuse because what else is there?
 
2013-08-21 04:53:31 PM

IRQ12: PunGent: IRQ12: AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?

Pretty hard when you packed your bag full of drugs and are not acting under duress.

Unless the cartels made credible threats against their families.   Those guys go in for beheading; you think a little blackmail is above them?

/Drug Warriors have a lot to answer for

No I don't doubt that is plausible but the "free trip and X$" mule thing is a lot more plausible seeing as it has been done a lot.  There's even a link above with pretty much the exact same story where the person admits to the scheme.

If there was an coercion it was probably them trying to back out after they were there.  Just guessing but I think what the person above said is the most likely scenario, they've done it before and are just using that as an excuse because what else is there?


Yeah, I'd go even odds on the whole blackmail vs. willing accomplice thing.  Just wouldn't want to discard it out of hand.
 
2013-08-21 05:12:03 PM

PunGent: IRQ12: PunGent: IRQ12: AngryDragon: Is it so hard when the security agent asks "did anyone else pack your bags?" to just say "yes, i am acting under duress"?

Pretty hard when you packed your bag full of drugs and are not acting under duress.

Unless the cartels made credible threats against their families.   Those guys go in for beheading; you think a little blackmail is above them?

/Drug Warriors have a lot to answer for

No I don't doubt that is plausible but the "free trip and X$" mule thing is a lot more plausible seeing as it has been done a lot.  There's even a link above with pretty much the exact same story where the person admits to the scheme.

If there was an coercion it was probably them trying to back out after they were there.  Just guessing but I think what the person above said is the most likely scenario, they've done it before and are just using that as an excuse because what else is there?

Yeah, I'd go even odds on the whole blackmail vs. willing accomplice thing.  Just wouldn't want to discard it out of hand.


Why?  One is a well known scheme and the other is something two people are saying to try and save their ass.  You give equal merit to both possibilities?

Let's put it this way; if you were smuggling a million$ worth of stuff who would be a better candidate:

A.  A willing party eager to come and get the money and free trip and will try their best to avoid detection for a measly 5-10k

B.  Someone in fear of their(families) life that could easily go to the authorities once in transit.

I know in the mexican border operations there are mules forced to do the work but that is because the families are local and the police don't care.
 
2013-08-21 05:14:44 PM
There's something I really don't understand here. In the BBC article
the girls are shown in court wearing each other's clothes. Or at least they have swapped outfits from all previous photos.Are they trying to send a message? Or did whoever searched them just mix up their outfits (deliberately or otherwise) and hand them back the wrong ones?
 
2013-08-21 06:15:53 PM
actually 18 years. I doubt Peru gives credit for time served.
 
2013-08-21 07:57:31 PM

Onkel Buck: Didnt this happen once before already? I seem to remember one girl getting out of prison recently while the other finished her sentence.


ONCE before?  It happens all the time.  Seriously, just say "no" if someone offers you a free vacation, but from what little I've heard of this case these girls were working in Peru - not hard to believe with the Spanish economy in shambles and they were coerced into it.  At least that's the girl's story.  Run to the nearest embassy or consulate.

It could be worse.  It sounds like the prison they are in is first class by South American standards.
 
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Damn you.  Boy George is actually prettier than that girl.
 
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