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(Reuters)   Syria gases own people again. So Assad is a bad guy. Unless it's propaganda. In that case, al Queda are the bad guys. Again   (reuters.com) divider line 17
    More: Sad, Damascus, National Coalition Party, propaganda, U.N. Security Council, military aid, chemical weapons  
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2013-08-21 10:00:03 AM  
2 votes:
Those WMDs that never existed in Iraq in 2004, that were watched by bird (SAT) be transported into Syria in 11 RUSSIAN trucks were not used in this and all other previous WMD incidents.

These are not the droids you are looking for...

Huh, it's not working on me and "Bush 43 is a liar and a goofball for getting the whole WMDs wrong". Remember your MSM programming or be ridiculed and shamed in spite of any fact of evidence to the contrary.
2013-08-21 08:52:36 AM  
2 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: Why not both?


Agreed. There's no shortage of blame to go around.

/shortage of love, tho
//put an apostrophe in that its, Subby
/pedantic
2013-08-21 08:48:10 AM  
2 votes:
Why not both?
2013-08-21 02:03:44 PM  
1 votes:

Tatterdemalian: It certainly wouldn't be the first time Reuters was caught staging a massacre, though it might be the first time they did it to make anyone other than Israel look like war criminals.


Reuters stages massacres now?

LMAO.

Israel, another country, not our 51st state dumbass.
2013-08-21 02:00:51 PM  
1 votes:

pag1107: Are people still riled up for us to get involved there?  Have they decided which side we should take?  We can either back a sociopathic dictator or al Qaeda, you chose.


As long as the result leaves Syria in gridlocked chaos then Israel is happy, and we will be happy too. Chaos benefits the strong over time. That's why Israel releases 30 or so hardcore zealot "terrorists" every time the Palestinians start to look reasonable, that's why we fired all of the police and the military in Iraq. Chaos.
2013-08-21 01:56:33 PM  
1 votes:
Amos Quito:

1. We don't know that nerve gas was used
2. If it was used, we don't know by who

What we DO know is that (much of) the media - without solid evidence - is already pumping propaganda that pretends that CW's were used, and that it was Assad that used them.

Fox News is already criticizing Obama for failing to act (surprise!)

I call bullshiat.

If such weapons WERE in fact used - and they may well have been - Assad would be the least likely to have used them.



It would have been incredibly stupid for Assad to use gas when the UN weapons inspectors had just checked into hotels.  At least they didn't have to walk far to investigate.

From the article:
"It would be very peculiar if it was the government to do this at the exact moment the international inspectors come into the country," said Rolf Ekeus, a retired Swedish diplomat who headed a team of UN weapons inspectors in Iraq in the 1990s.

"At the least, it wouldn't be very clever."

In the end it will come down to he said, she said and leave the door wide open for (more) US intervention.  The US warhawks are circling.
2013-08-21 11:45:21 AM  
1 votes:

spawn73: Experts who have commented on the issue, rather than just reporting it like Reuters does, says it's not a sarin gas attack because none of the supposed victims have the symptoms of having been exposed to sarin gas, namely muscle spasms.

People who die from sarin gas will apparently be contorted from the muscle spasms it causes.

Also they question the timing of this coinciding with the UN arriving to determine exactly if gas has been used.


I don't know how many animals are in the supposedly affected area. But the experts also asked for evidence of dead animals, as would occur with an sarin gas attack.

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Some forms of tear gas is really nasty, and can kill as well. Ie. the 36 prisoners that were killed by it the other day in Egypt when it was used in closed quarters.

But tear gas is not forbidden to use under international law.


It certainly wouldn't be the first time Reuters was caught staging a massacre, though it might be the first time they did it to make anyone other than Israel look like war criminals. And there is the fact that the reporter keeps insisting that bodies "with no visible wounds" are proof of a gas attack, without any mention of the collateral damage among the local wildlife, let alone photographs of stacks of dead birds or dogs that would probably shock western audiences more than the stacks of human "corpses."

/certainly saves on ketchup/tomato sauce expenses to report on gas attacks instead of conventional ones
2013-08-21 11:19:38 AM  
1 votes:
www.zcommunications.org
2013-08-21 10:00:40 AM  
1 votes:

brimed03: IdBeCrazyIf: Why not both?

Agreed. There's no shortage of blame to go around.

/shortage of love, tho
//put an apostrophe in that its, Subby
/pedantic


Not much love to go around?
Must be a real land of confusion.
2013-08-21 09:56:35 AM  
1 votes:
No worries, we'll just keep changing the definition of WMDs so we don't have to get involved, like we did with "genocide" to avoid Rwanda.

/words only have meanings under a Republican president
//now if only we could figure out why the world stops respecting our authority when we have a Democrat president
///if you can't respect the man or the office, at least respect the conpletely well-earned Nobel Peace Prize
2013-08-21 09:43:07 AM  
1 votes:
I think it's pretty suspicious that the Syrian government used chemical weapons in Damascus just days after 20 UN Chemical Weapons Inspectors show up in Damascus.
2013-08-21 09:10:57 AM  
1 votes:
Funny that we invaded Iraq for WMDs, which didn't exist, yes we won't bother when we actually know of overt nerve gas/WMD use.

Something-something oil in Iraq, gotcha.
2013-08-21 09:09:23 AM  
1 votes:

pag1107: Are people still riled up for us to get involved there?  Have they decided which side we should take?  We can either back a sociopathic dictator or al Qaeda, you chose.


Or...and I know this is crazy so hear me out... we stay the fark away and let the UK, France, Germany or anyone that wants to, go there and play world police.

Did go in and intercede in Africa when many more than 600 people were/are killed in a single day during their non-stop wars?

fark the middle east.

/ill tell you how I really feel after a few drinks...
2013-08-21 09:07:39 AM  
1 votes:
Wall off the whole place and let them fight it out.
2013-08-21 09:02:48 AM  
1 votes:
Are people still riled up for us to get involved there?  Have they decided which side we should take?  We can either back a sociopathic dictator or al Qaeda, you chose.
2013-08-21 09:01:47 AM  
1 votes:

megarian: Sarin terrifies me.


Don't let it get on your nerves.
2013-08-21 08:57:19 AM  
1 votes:
Sarin terrifies me.
 
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