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(TMZ)   Cops are now investigating Lisa Robin Kelly's death, claim it's suspicious because the rehab facility didn't bother to notify the coroner until four hours after a doctor pronounced her dead   (tmz.com) divider line 42
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2013-08-21 08:17:31 AM  
I don't think it a shocker really. He body couldn't take the detox from the alcohol. Seems like a closed case really, even if the rehab facility didn't report it immediately.
 
2013-08-21 08:18:50 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: I don't think it a shocker really. He body couldn't take the detox from the alcohol. Seems like a closed case really, even if the rehab facility didn't report it immediately.


Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.
 
2013-08-21 08:26:32 AM  

Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.


Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.
 
2013-08-21 08:34:15 AM  
It took the doctor 4 hours to figure out if they were talking about one woman, or three.
 
2013-08-21 08:35:09 AM  
I blame vanity.
 
2013-08-21 08:45:31 AM  
They probably didn't want police walking in on them having sex with the corpse.
 
2013-08-21 08:45:52 AM  
The cops are said to want to put their foot up the facility's ass.
 
2013-08-21 08:53:47 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: They probably didn't want police walking in on them having sex with the corpse.


That's both "funny" and "ewwww".
 
2013-08-21 08:54:28 AM  
Sources say Kelly had been seen idly passing time in the street, similar to what she had done the week prior.
 
2013-08-21 09:12:13 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: They probably didn't want police walking in on them having sex with the corpse.


"One at a time guys...everyone will get their turn."
 
2013-08-21 09:23:51 AM  
Who?

/Reads TFA.

//Oh; That 70's Show girl.

///Same thing will happen if Jaleel White dies.

////Who? Oh, Urkel.
 
2013-08-21 09:28:06 AM  

Spanky McStupid: SockMonkeyHolocaust: They probably didn't want police walking in on them having sex with the corpse.

That's both "funny" and "ewwww".




cinemademerde.com
 
2013-08-21 09:29:02 AM  
 
2013-08-21 09:35:16 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: They probably didn't want police walking in on them having sex with the corpse.


images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-08-21 10:17:39 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.


I read that as berries and thought "get your new age shiat out of here hippie"
 
2013-08-21 10:24:30 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: SockMonkeyHolocaust: They probably didn't want police walking in on them having sex with the corpse.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 399x196]


My name is Chuck and I like to PARTY.

/tv edit
 
2013-08-21 10:26:03 AM  

Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.


What a dumb comment. Even ignoring the fact that substance abusers are often less than entirely honest with others, including doctors, about the extent of their abuse, alcohol addiction is a physical addiction that actually modifies the chemistry of the body. Between the level of abuse, honesty of the patient and genetic factors that further influence the reaction to withdrawal, it's inevitable that some number of people will die during treatment.

It's not like most other addictions. You can't just strap the person down and keep them from getting the drug with no ill physical affects. Sudden withdrawal from alcohol, particularly very hard abuse, is extraordinarily dangerous.
 
2013-08-21 10:38:08 AM  

EyeballKid: Sources say Kelly had been seen idly passing time in the street, similar to what she had done the week prior.


"I'm sittin on the dock of the bay watchin the tide roll away, ooh, I'm just sittin on the dock of the bay wastin time"

/first thing I thought of
 
2013-08-21 10:51:32 AM  

skozlaw: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

What a dumb comment. Even ignoring the fact that substance abusers are often less than entirely honest with others, including doctors, about the extent of their abuse, alcohol addiction is a physical addiction that actually modifies the chemistry of the body. Between the level of abuse, honesty of the patient and genetic factors that further influence the reaction to withdrawal, it's inevitable that some number of people will die during treatment.

It's not like most other addictions. You can't just strap the person down and keep them from getting the drug with no ill physical affects. Sudden withdrawal from alcohol, particularly very hard abuse, is extraordinarily dangerous.


Not true.  Scientology has a drug program called Narconon that cures people without all of that bullshiat you are talking about.  It gets the whole body and mind clear.
 
2013-08-21 10:54:39 AM  

lordaction: Not true. Scientology has a drug program called Narconon that cures people without all of that bullshiat you are talking about. It gets the whole body and mind clear.


Hey, everyone! Tom Cruise is a Farker!
 
2013-08-21 11:25:27 AM  
Not suspicious.  They wanted to contact the family first.  She's famous and as soon as she gets rolled out on a gurney, there are going to be Fark and TMZ headlines about it.  They contacted the family, let them work their phone trees first and then called the authorities in.  Seems painfully simple to me.  The police are just pissed that they missed out on the $50 they get by leaking this stuff to TMZ so they can 'scoop' it.  Never get between the cops and their revenue sources, they will investigate you and they will make you have a bad day.
 
2013-08-21 11:26:51 AM  

Spanky McStupid: SockMonkeyHolocaust: They probably didn't want police walking in on them having sex with the corpse.

That's both "funny" and "ewwww".


I feel dirty for having laughed.
 
2013-08-21 11:39:19 AM  

skozlaw: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

What a dumb comment. Even ignoring the fact that substance abusers are often less than entirely honest with others, including doctors, about the extent of their abuse, alcohol addiction is a physical addiction that actually modifies the chemistry of the body. Between the level of abuse, honesty of the patient and genetic factors that further influence the reaction to withdrawal, it's inevitable that some number of people will die during treatment.

It's not like most other addictions. You can't just strap the person down and keep them from getting the drug with no ill physical affects. Sudden withdrawal from alcohol, particularly very hard abuse, is extraordinarily dangerous.


Given how dangerous alcohol withdrawal/detox is, and apparently in her case they found it dangerous enough to give her medication for it,  shouldn't she have been under direct physician surveillance rather than "Oh hai guys, I did morning rounds and found her dead.   I eyeballed it and ruled it embolism, even though there is no way to determine that without an autopsy."
 
2013-08-21 11:40:06 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.


Huh. My shrink prescribed trazadone for me to help me get to sleep. Didn't know it was used for detox.
 
2013-08-21 11:44:15 AM  

skozlaw: Sudden withdrawal from alcohol, particularly very hard abuse, is extraordinarily dangerous.


This is why I only drink beer; and lots of it
 
2013-08-21 11:46:11 AM  

Lipspinach: IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.

Huh. My shrink prescribed trazadone for me to help me get to sleep. Didn't know it was used for detox.


My family doctor prescribed it to me for the same reason - insomnia. I didn't know it was used for detox, either. Learn something new every day.
 
2013-08-21 12:27:55 PM  

StrandedInAZ: Lipspinach: IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.

Huh. My shrink prescribed trazadone for me to help me get to sleep. Didn't know it was used for detox.

My family doctor prescribed it to me for the same reason - insomnia. I didn't know it was used for detox, either. Learn something new every day.


One the biggest hurdles in getting past a detox of alcohol is getting past the insomnia which can be debilitating. And traz reacts on different receptors which have been dulled from alcohol abuse in which other downers like xanax, etc.. do react on. It's actually pretty common once the initial DT phase has passed and the patient is stable.
 
2013-08-21 12:55:28 PM  
Trazadone is usually a second line treatment after the first, all of your synapses go nuts at once,phase of detox is complete...

They usually start off with Benzos for the first 36-72 hours. Of course its not good to stay on Benzos for too long, because feeding pills to an addict, that themselves have a pretty horrific addiction profile, is not the greatest idea either.

Smaller (relatively speaking, as complared to the dosing of actual pscyh patients ) doses of psych meds like Seroquel and Risperadone are also tried occasionally.

There's even been some studies out of somewhere in Europe (i can't remember where) of using  Nitrous Oxide for Alcohol detox, which were actually very promising.
 
2013-08-21 01:03:28 PM  

StrandedInAZ: Lipspinach: IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.

Huh. My shrink prescribed trazadone for me to help me get to sleep. Didn't know it was used for detox.

My family doctor prescribed it to me for the same reason - insomnia. I didn't know it was used for detox, either. Learn something new every day.


It's not.  Only as a non-addictive sleep aid.
 
2013-08-21 01:05:15 PM  

dforkus: Trazadone is usually a second line treatment after the first, all of your synapses go nuts at once,phase of detox is complete...

They usually start off with Benzos for the first 36-72 hours. Of course its not good to stay on Benzos for too long, because feeding pills to an addict, that themselves have a pretty horrific addiction profile, is not the greatest idea either.

Smaller (relatively speaking, as complared to the dosing of actual pscyh patients ) doses of psych meds like Seroquel and Risperadone are also tried occasionally.

There's even been some studies out of somewhere in Europe (i can't remember where) of using  Nitrous Oxide for Alcohol detox, which were actually very promising.


Benzo's are given for their anti-seizure properties.
 
2013-08-21 01:07:28 PM  

dforkus: There's even been some studies out of somewhere in Europe (i can't remember where) of using Nitrous Oxide for Alcohol detox, which were actually very promising.


It depends on how severe the addiction is too, most are treated as out patient while only the most severe are kept for observation and put on the heavy shiat
 
2013-08-21 01:21:38 PM  
Easy explanation:  The doctor was a dumbass.
 
2013-08-21 01:24:06 PM  

buckeyebrain: Easy explanation:  The doctor was a dumbass.


THIS
 
2013-08-21 01:54:54 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: StrandedInAZ: Lipspinach: IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.

Huh. My shrink prescribed trazadone for me to help me get to sleep. Didn't know it was used for detox.

My family doctor prescribed it to me for the same reason - insomnia. I didn't know it was used for detox, either. Learn something new every day.

One the biggest hurdles in getting past a detox of alcohol is getting past the insomnia which can be debilitating. And traz reacts on different receptors which have been dulled from alcohol abuse in which other downers like xanax, etc.. do react on. It's actually pretty common once the initial DT phase has passed and the patient is stable.


Ahh... Thanks for the information.
 
2013-08-21 02:08:45 PM  

InmanRoshi: Given how dangerous alcohol withdrawal/detox is, and apparently in her case they found it dangerous enough to give her medication for it, shouldn't she have been under direct physician surveillance rather than "Oh hai guys, I did morning rounds and found her dead


I'm not commenting on this particular case or how it was handled. I didn't even RTFA. I'm taking exception with the other poster's dumb comment that implies that if somebody dies of alcohol withdrawal during treatment it MUST have been a failure of the regimen.

That's like saying that the only reason anybody could ever die during open heart surgery is if the surgeon screws up. Sure, sometimes that's the reason, but it's a complex treatment to a complex problem, obviously sometimes things are going to be out of the control of the doctors.
 
2013-08-21 02:23:37 PM  

skozlaw: InmanRoshi: Given how dangerous alcohol withdrawal/detox is, and apparently in her case they found it dangerous enough to give her medication for it, shouldn't she have been under direct physician surveillance rather than "Oh hai guys, I did morning rounds and found her dead

I'm not commenting on this particular case or how it was handled. I didn't even RTFA. I'm taking exception with the other poster's dumb comment that implies that if somebody dies of alcohol withdrawal during treatment it MUST have been a failure of the regimen.

That's like saying that the only reason anybody could ever die during open heart surgery is if the surgeon screws up. Sure, sometimes that's the reason, but it's a complex treatment to a complex problem, obviously sometimes things are going to be out of the control of the doctors.


Without doing any research, I'm sure the statistics of each are not comparable.
 
2013-08-21 04:40:06 PM  

skozlaw: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

What a dumb comment. Even ignoring the fact that substance abusers are often less than entirely honest with others, including doctors, about the extent of their abuse, alcohol addiction is a physical addiction that actually modifies the chemistry of the body. Between the level of abuse, honesty of the patient and genetic factors that further influence the reaction to withdrawal, it's inevitable that some number of people will die during treatment.

It's not like most other addictions. You can't just strap the person down and keep them from getting the drug with no ill physical affects. Sudden withdrawal from alcohol, particularly very hard abuse, is extraordinarily dangerous.


So much of this.  I won't mention what my BAC was a couple years (I was self-medicating for a number of physical and mental things) and was wondering a park.  The level my BAC I should be dead and I won't mention because I'm certain to get some very nasty posts.  I was taken to the cop shop and I withdrew something fierce.  I should've been hospitalized but I was in the Alcatraz freezing cell for 12 was brutal.  I literally thought I was going to die laying there.  To be honest I would have rather died right there than suffer the way I did.

Also, my father is an alcoholic so I believe some of it is inherited. I'm still fighting purges once in a while (maybe twice a month) but it's no where near as bad as it was then.
 
2013-08-21 04:46:56 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: StrandedInAZ: Lipspinach: IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.

Huh. My shrink prescribed trazadone for me to help me get to sleep. Didn't know it was used for detox.

My family doctor prescribed it to me for the same reason - insomnia. I didn't know it was used for detox, either. Learn something new every day.

One the biggest hurdles in getting past a detox of alcohol is getting past the insomnia which can be debilitating. And traz reacts on different receptors which have been dulled from alcohol abuse in which other downers like xanax, etc.. do react on. It's actually pretty common once the initial DT phase has passed and the patient is stable.


Not to mention not being able eat or even drink water and keep it down.  My body won't accept it.   Don't mean to be flippant but I can loose about 5-6lbs. from DTs.
 
2013-08-21 05:47:46 PM  

Buttknuckle: StrandedInAZ: Lipspinach: IdBeCrazyIf: Lady Indica: Except that detox from alcohol shouldn't be fatal if done properly. Ever.

Depending on how hard you've abused your body it's perfectly within the realm of reality for death to occur even when mitigating down symptoms with things like trazadone and bennies.

Huh. My shrink prescribed trazadone for me to help me get to sleep. Didn't know it was used for detox.

My family doctor prescribed it to me for the same reason - insomnia. I didn't know it was used for detox, either. Learn something new every day.

It's not.  Only as a non-addictive sleep aid.


That makes sense. The Dr. knows I had a penchant for drugs and I still drink a lot.
Still not sure if it works or not. Weed seems to work a lot better. Too bad it makes me anxious before it makes me tired.
 
2013-08-21 05:54:25 PM  

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Who?

/Reads TFA.

//Oh; That 70's Show girl.

///Same thing will happen if Jaleel White dies.

////Who? Oh, Urkel.


-3/10
 
2013-08-21 09:14:39 PM  

555-FILK: So much of this.  I won't mention what my BAC was a couple years (I was self-medicating for a number of physical and mental things) and was wondering a park.  The level my BAC I should be dead and I won't mention because I'm certain to get some very nasty posts.  I was taken to the cop shop and I withdrew something fierce.  I should've been hospitalized but I was in the Alcatraz freezing cell for 12 was brutal.  I literally thought I was going to die laying there.  To be honest I would have rather died right there than suffer the way I did.
Also, my father is an alcoholic so I believe some of it is inherited. I'm still fighting purges once in a while (maybe twice a month) but it's no where near as bad as it was then.


Nonsense. Don't you ever read the DUI threads? We brag about such things.

/.44 a few months before I sobered up. Never went to detox.
 
2013-08-22 01:32:32 PM  
I don't know if it's been mentioned yet but the doctor who pronounced her listed the cause of death as something that can only be determined by an autopsy

so yeah, suspicious
 
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