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(Politico)   Al-Jazeera America tries to win over the hearts of Americans, sues AT&T   (politico.com) divider line 22
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1335 clicks; posted to Business » on 21 Aug 2013 at 8:26 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-08-21 08:57:41 AM  
If they wanted to win me over they'd have a live online stream for non-cable subscribers
 
2013-08-21 09:17:32 AM  
Had it on Dish last night, gone this morning.
 
2013-08-21 09:20:49 AM  
Maybe I'm spoiled, but I tried watching it yesterday (DirecTV) and it's in standard def. It's 2013. This is inexcusable.
 
2013-08-21 09:24:12 AM  

Girion47: If they wanted to win me over they'd have a live online stream for non-cable subscribers


I heard about it on NPR this morning, their goal and purpose and whatnot. I'm....cautiously optimistic....they seem to be Newsroom: Real Life

The Bestest: Maybe I'm spoiled, but I tried watching it yesterday (DirecTV) and it's in standard def. It's 2013. This is inexcusable.


Yeah, you're spoiled. It's the goddamn news, you don't need hi-def for that
 
2013-08-21 09:27:56 AM  

somedude210: Girion47: If they wanted to win me over they'd have a live online stream for non-cable subscribers

I heard about it on NPR this morning, their goal and purpose and whatnot. I'm....cautiously optimistic....they seem to be Newsroom: Real Life

The Bestest: Maybe I'm spoiled, but I tried watching it yesterday (DirecTV) and it's in standard def. It's 2013. This is inexcusable.

Yeah, you're spoiled. It's the goddamn news, you don't need hi-def for that


What about for the stories about Honey Boo-Boo and the Kardashians? Those better be in HD or I'm suing.
 
2013-08-21 09:38:38 AM  

Speaker2Animals: somedude210: Girion47: If they wanted to win me over they'd have a live online stream for non-cable subscribers

I heard about it on NPR this morning, their goal and purpose and whatnot. I'm....cautiously optimistic....they seem to be Newsroom: Real Life

The Bestest: Maybe I'm spoiled, but I tried watching it yesterday (DirecTV) and it's in standard def. It's 2013. This is inexcusable.

Yeah, you're spoiled. It's the goddamn news, you don't need hi-def for that

What about for the stories about Honey Boo-Boo and the Kardashians? Those better be in HD or I'm suing.


You can't expect news organizations to wait to ensure the highest quality video for important breaking news like that.  I don't care if it looks like the Zapruder film, I need it now.
 
2013-08-21 10:08:48 AM  
I'm still butthurt that they shut off the streaming video for the U.S.
 
2013-08-21 10:12:54 AM  
I wonder if Al Jazeera should just say FARK YOU to the major cable providers and do an all online push.

Sure you'll miss out on the uneducated and disconnected, but that crowd already thinks that Al Jazerra is a MUSLIM PLOT TO TAKE OVER THE USA and religiously follows FOX NEWS. They'll be dead in a generation anyway.

Plant the seeds with the young and connected that you're an unbiased quality news source, and the business will follow (as will the crosslinks from aggregators). In 20-30 years you can club Fox, NBC, Comcast, AT&T, DISH over the head with your ratings.

Should be easy since they're being bankrolled by Qatar.
 
2013-08-21 10:30:48 AM  
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2013-08-21 10:45:23 AM  

imashark: I wonder if Al Jazeera should just say FARK YOU to the major cable providers and do an all online push.

Sure you'll miss out on the uneducated and disconnected, but that crowd already thinks that Al Jazerra is a MUSLIM PLOT TO TAKE OVER THE USA and religiously follows FOX NEWS. They'll be dead in a generation anyway.

Plant the seeds with the young and connected that you're an unbiased quality news source, and the business will follow (as will the crosslinks from aggregators). In 20-30 years you can club Fox, NBC, Comcast, AT&T, DISH over the head with your ratings.

Should be easy since they're being bankrolled by Qatar.


Ummm... that's  exactly what they had done for the last 5 years or so.  The worldwide AJE was until yesterday available by streaming, app, Roku, Free-to-air satellite... basically anything but standard cable (and they were glad to let cable operators carry it free if they wanted to).  It was probably most popular in places like colleges where you often don't have cable TV at all.

Obviously the numbers weren't big enough for them, so they traded in the young streamers for the AARP-cardholding cable market.  Which is a larger market at the moment (even though the majority of the US's cable systems don't carry it).  But, there's a big overlap between the people hipster/iconoclast/whatever enough to watch Al Jazeera programming and the people hipster/iconoclast/whatever enough to be cord-cutters.
 
2013-08-21 11:14:24 AM  

somedude210: Yeah, you're spoiled. It's the goddamn news, you don't need hi-def for that


In the media, optics is everything. SD looks "ugly" on most HDTVs. As a result, no mater what production values are behind your broadcast, SD is still going to come across as "cheap". For a channel that has a pretty big strike against them already in terms of public perception, they really shouldn't be kneecapping themselves further.

Current got away with being in SD because it sort of gave them an "indie" vibe. That's not gonna fly for AJAM.
 
2013-08-21 11:42:49 AM  

The Bestest: In the media, optics is everything. SD looks "ugly" on most HDTVs. As a result, no mater what production values are behind your broadcast, SD is still going to come across as "cheap". For a channel that has a pretty big strike against them already in terms of public perception, they really shouldn't be kneecapping themselves further.

Current got away with being in SD because it sort of gave them an "indie" vibe. That's not gonna fly for AJAM.


I strongly doubt that AJAM has any SD cameras, workflow, post-proc, whatever in their brand-new studios.  It's that they're already begging-and-pleading for the cable and dish companies to carry them.  HD is maybe 4-5x the bandwidth of digital SD.  For cable, bandwidth = $$ = another excuse to kick them off.  If AJAM had demanded to be show in HD, they'd currently be shown absolutely nowhere.
 
2013-08-21 12:27:06 PM  
Al-Jaz, America's most trusted trustworthy news source!

I hope they succeed in the their aim of raising news standards out of the trough into which they've slumped since the old "objectivity", present-two-and-only-two-sides-of-every-story thing died. In other words, Rupert Murdoch. Well, maybe a bit before Rupert Murdoch.

I get tired of going to the Guardian or the BBC for news that ought to be all over the Mainstream aka "Liberal" Media but isn't because they are chickenshiats.

And it would be nice if the UK had a free press instead of a self-censored, cowed press with the wheel-clamps of an insanely biased libel and slander law on its wheels. At the moment, they seem to have the kindler, gentler face of Big Brother. We have always been at war with whistle-blowers and tellers of truth to power.
 
2013-08-21 12:31:30 PM  
I just don't see why they had to encrypt AJE and block the stream in the US when it's an entirely different channel than AJAM. It's encrypted on 58W C-band, 97W Ku-band, and probably on 121W as well. Of course, that means it's blocked for the whole western hemisphere, not just the US. Oh well.
 
2013-08-21 12:40:24 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: I just don't see why they had to encrypt AJE and block the stream in the US when it's an entirely different channel than AJAM. It's encrypted on 58W C-band, 97W Ku-band, and probably on 121W as well. Of course, that means it's blocked for the whole western hemisphere, not just the US. Oh well.


I haven't looked in a few days but when I'm streaming news Al-Jazeera is the first place I go. Looks like I'll have to use a rogue BBC stream to fill the gaps. Too bad.
 
2013-08-21 12:51:29 PM  

The Bestest: In the media, optics is everything.


and this is why we have a populace who is uneducated and doesn't care about actual news. We care more about how we look and not what we're doing.

I open my arms to AJAM
 
2013-08-21 01:05:03 PM  

SurfaceTension: I haven't looked in a few days but when I'm streaming news Al-Jazeera is the first place I go. Looks like I'll have to use a rogue BBC stream to fill the gaps. Too bad.


If you're willing to go for rogue BBC streams, there will be rogue AJE streams (and presumably rogue AJAM streams). On the other side, this is a big chance for some of the competitors in the state-backed news/propaganda stations (hey, the US does it too... called VOA) to step up their game and gain some audience numbers. On Ku-band and online, you've still got RT (I can't handle more than about 10 minutes, but ymmv), Al Etejah, Jewish News One, CNC World, CCTV etc.  France 24, NHK World, DW English, Press (Iran), Sky News, etc primarily online.

Since kittyhas1000legs mentioned it... while I know it's about as geeky as Ham radio in the US, I think Al-Jazeera could have been a lot more disruptive (of both news and the whole TV industry) by pushing free (FTA) dish reception to younger Americans. You can get set up with a single fixed Ku dish/receiver for ~$150.  Hundreds of thousands of people have experience mounting/aiming Ku dishes at this point.

That's how they built their original audience in the middle east.  Tens of millions of FTA dishes running around the region, dozens (hundreds even) of FTA stations. People get 100 stations in refugee camps.    I know... streaming is good enough, cheaper, and most Americans have internet.  True.  But, it's subjectively very different to 'just flip channels' than even just to click a few buttons to get stream X.
 
2013-08-21 01:43:03 PM  
Live stream of international news.
http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

 Videos page

http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/watch.html

Looks like their U.S. live stream may still be a work in progress.
 
2013-08-21 01:53:49 PM  

sheep snorter: Live stream of international news.
http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/


How this link may appear in the US of A.

i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-21 03:09:33 PM  

sheep snorter: Live stream of international news.
http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

 Videos page

http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/watch.html

Looks like their U.S. live stream may still be a work in progress.


http://m.aljazeera.com/home/watch works on my Verizon phone over 4g. I get the same message as Lawnchair when trying on the desktop.
 
2013-08-21 04:49:02 PM  
The reason they're suing At&t is because At&t didn't give them or its subscribers any prior warning that they were going to drop this channel hours before it aired.

I have U-Verse and I'm frustrated that At&t decided to dick around with us instead of being honest and open and letting us know that they weren't planning to carry this channel instead of having the first day's programs listed on the program guide as if everything was ok.
 
2013-08-21 05:30:11 PM  

Mrtraveler01: The reason they're suing At&t is because At&t didn't give them or its subscribers any prior warning that they were going to drop this channel hours before it aired.

I have U-Verse and I'm frustrated that At&t decided to dick around with us instead of being honest and open and letting us know that they weren't planning to carry this channel instead of having the first day's programs listed on the program guide as if everything was ok.


I'll give AT&T an F for douchery, but a B+ for marketing strategy.  They're the far-behind player for video service in every market so there's more upside to playing biases than downside. Sure, they'll churn some existing customers who wanted AJAM, but if they can get twice as many Comcast teabaggers (and that's not so hard, considering the relative subscriptions of Comcast and U-Verse), they're way ahead.  And doing it like they did gets them in the news as "carries FOX News, hates 'dem Ayrabs".  I have no doubt that at least a couple thousand 'baggers will switch from Time-Warner Cable or Cox (neither of which are even carrying AJAM) to U-Verse as a result.
 
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