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(Boing Boing)   American Quarter Horse Association ordered to allow clones. Kentucky Derby braces for the first nine way tie in history   (boingboing.net) divider line 13
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2013-08-21 09:06:30 AM  
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So was there also an order to allow said cloned Quarter Horses to enter and run in a race for Thoroughbreds?
2013-08-21 10:59:48 AM  
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12349876: NightOwl2255: 12349876: StoPPeRmobile: Horses turning left is better than cars turning left, right?

Kentucky Derby : 2 turns
Bristol 500: 2000 turns

Just wondering why you count the number of turns on two nearly identically shaped race tracks differently?

Okay then 1000 if you like.  I was using Wikipedia that said Bristol has 4 turns.


The Kentucky Derby is a race.  Churchill Downs is a racetrack.

The Food City 500 is a race.  Bristol Motor Speedway is a racetrack.

The Kentucky Derby is one lap race with 2 turns.  The Food City 500 is a 500 lap race with 2000 turns.
2013-08-21 10:57:19 AM  
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kdawg7736: I was going to mention quarter horses do not run in horse racing, it is thoroughbreds. Quarter horses are more for shorter distances like equestrian and rodeo.


Plenty of quarter horses race.  The WHOLE FARKING REASON they're called QUARTER horses is that they're bred to run a QUARTER mile, though admittedly that's a lot shorter than races like the Kentucky Derby.
2013-08-21 09:46:23 AM  
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kdawg7736: I was going to mention quarter horses do not run in horse racing, it is thoroughbreds. Quarter horses are more for shorter distances like equestrian and rodeo.


or Quarter Horse racing.
2013-08-21 09:21:54 AM  
2 votes:

StoPPeRmobile: Horses turning left is better than cars turning left, right?


The races are shorter, more often and you can bet on them. Yes, the horses are better.
2013-08-21 12:25:15 PM  
1 votes:

LikeALeafOnTheWind: Throughbreds cant compete in races unless they are bred via live cover.


Thoroughbreds cant even be registered unless they are conceived via live cover.
2013-08-21 12:09:53 PM  
1 votes:
"I saw it, in my head, as the mask of the whiskey gentry--a pretentious mix of booze, failed dreams and a terminal identity crisis; the inevitable result of too much inbreeding in a closed and ignorant culture. One of the key genetic rules in breeding dogs, horses or any other kind of thoroughbred is that close inbreeding tends to magnify the weak points in a bloodline as well as the strong points. In horse breeding, for instance, there is a definite risk in breeding two fast horses who are both a little crazy. The offspring will likely be very fast and also very crazy. So the trick in breeding thoroughbreds is to retain the good traits and filter out the bad. But the breeding of humans is not so wisely supervised, particularly in a narrow Southern society where the closest kind of inbreeding is not only stylish and acceptable, but far more convenient--to the parents--than setting their offspring free to find their own mates, for their own reasons and in their own ways..."
Hunter S. Thompson, the Kentucky Derby is Decadent and Depraved
2013-08-21 10:29:20 AM  
1 votes:

maynerdkitty: henryhill: kdawg7736: I was going to mention quarter horses do not run in horse racing, it is thoroughbreds. Quarter horses are more for shorter distances like equestrian and rodeo.

or Quarter Horse racing.

A Quarter Horse can be 7/8 Thoroughbred and still be registered as a Quarter Horse.
/worked at a Thoroughbred farm in the 80's.
//Free Up got as many Quarter Horse mares as he did Thoroughbred.



A cross between a Quarterhorse and Thoroughbred can be registered in the AQHA appendix stud book, and if that horse meets certain performance criteria, like winning a certain amount of horse shows or races, then it can earn its way to full registration.

The AQHA has no problem with allowing Thoroughbred blood into Quarter Horse breeding lines, provided that the breed adds to the aesthetic or performance value.

This is probably why they didn't want to register clone horses, since your basically allowing the same horse to be registered twice, which could potentially homogenize bloodlines.
2013-08-21 10:11:57 AM  
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tricycleracer: LionHound: So was there also an order to allow said cloned Quarter Horses to enter and run in a race for Thoroughbreds?

Artificial insemination would be a step into the 20th century, though.


Not as far as thoroughbred horse racing is concerned. It would destroy racing - every horse running would the the offspring of a champion. It would also have massive financial implications, to get a good thoroughbred, one that's won classics, to cover your mare can cost between €250,000 - €500,000 a shag, if you introduce artificial insemination you wipe out the breeding industry. None of the associations that govern horse racing outside the USA would ever allow it, and no American-bred horse would ever be allowed race outside the USA.
2013-08-21 10:11:46 AM  
1 votes:

12349876: StoPPeRmobile: Horses turning left is better than cars turning left, right?

Kentucky Derby : 2 turns
Bristol 500: 2000 turns


Just wondering why you count the number of turns on two nearly identically shaped race tracks differently?
2013-08-21 09:16:46 AM  
1 votes:

LionHound: So was there also an order to allow said cloned Quarter Horses to enter and run in a race for Thoroughbreds?


Artificial insemination would be a step into the 20th century, though.
2013-08-21 09:10:44 AM  
1 votes:

Gonz: We're running quarter horses against thoroughbreds now? That's... that's not a good idea.


Well you can but why would you want to?
2013-08-21 09:06:42 AM  
1 votes:
We're running quarter horses against thoroughbreds now? That's... that's not a good idea.
 
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