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2013-08-21 08:23:06 AM
I'm pretty sure I have this. I'm 250lbs and can barely fit into XL shirts, but I still consider myself small and am worried about cutting weight.
 
2013-08-21 08:24:45 AM
It already had a name. It's called OCD
 
2013-08-21 08:24:52 AM
Wow. That IS an incredibly stupid name.

I propose "shrinkus dickus".
 
2013-08-21 08:26:07 AM
Too busy to read the article, I need to be at the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2013-08-21 08:26:49 AM
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/obscure?
 
2013-08-21 08:29:22 AM
Smoke Man muscle!
 
2013-08-21 08:30:14 AM
How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.
 
2013-08-21 08:32:05 AM

here to help: Wow. That IS an incredibly stupid name.

I propose "shrinkus dickus".


Which means less procreating, so this seems like a self correcting problem
 
2013-08-21 08:32:41 AM
Rexorexia tm
 
2013-08-21 08:34:52 AM
No pics for lulz? Not even a stock photo?

ABC mobile, I am disappoint.
 
2013-08-21 08:34:52 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.


So you're okay with them being fat where they are?
 
2013-08-21 08:34:57 AM
6"2", 310, trainer said my back and shoulder muscles were greatly overdeveloped from weightlifting. Sent me to a massage therapist to try and loosen them up. Therapist said it was like massaging a brick and described my arms are massive. Being 57, I guess I could have worse problems.
 
2013-08-21 08:36:08 AM
If 'anorexia' is from the Greek for 'lack of appetite,' 'an' being 'without', then if they want to use the 'orexia' part shouldn't it be prorexia? Of course I don't know what the Greek for "pro" is, which is why i'm using the Latin, and since it's not appetite, it's muscle mass, shouldn't it be, in Latin at least, prolacertosus? Anyone who actually knows Latin or Greek want to fix it up?

Also, subby, everything needs a proper official sounding name. It just has to be right!
 
2013-08-21 08:37:50 AM
Bigorexiagate
 
2013-08-21 08:39:28 AM

Arkanaut: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So you're okay with them being fat where they are?


A-ok with it. There is no need to label them as mentally ill!
 
2013-08-21 08:43:30 AM
c'mon, you mean they skipped brorexia?
 
2013-08-21 08:43:50 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Arkanaut: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So you're okay with them being fat where they are?

A-ok with it. There is no need to label them as mentally ill!


I think you're confusing the part for the whole. There are probably SOME who are mentally ill. The rest are just into it.
 
2013-08-21 08:44:12 AM
Why not just call it body dysmorphic disorder? Why make up new terms
 
2013-08-21 08:44:23 AM
Spot me, bro.
 
2013-08-21 08:44:29 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication.


It's body dysmorphism, same as for anorexics and bulimics, but in a slightly different direction. It takes dedication to starve yourself, too. Or to eat yourself into a quarter ton frame.  The fact is that for these people, it's about their self-image, not their health.
 
2013-08-21 08:47:23 AM
"Creatine may cause severe muscle cramping, diarrhea and dizziness."

 I have never even heard of creatine having a side effect like these.
 
2013-08-21 08:49:37 AM

indylaw: Bigorexiagate




*shakes tiny fist*
 
2013-08-21 08:49:42 AM

Slaxl: If 'anorexia' is from the Greek for 'lack of appetite,' 'an' being 'without', then if they want to use the 'orexia' part shouldn't it be prorexia? Of course I don't know what the Greek for "pro" is, which is why i'm using the Latin, and since it's not appetite, it's muscle mass, shouldn't it be, in Latin at least, prolacertosus? Anyone who actually knows Latin or Greek want to fix it up?

Also, subby, everything needs a proper official sounding name. It just has to be right!


The Romans incorporated many Greek words into Latin after conquering them. In fact, the 'orexia' in anorexia likely comes more directly from the Latin orexis than the Greek oreksis (transliterated). Pro doesn't really work in this context.

How about something like: lacertiorexia (desire or appetite for strength) or musculorumorexia (desire or appetite for muscles).
 
2013-08-21 08:51:09 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.


So do anorexics. If they're doing serious short term or long term damage to their health maybe it is time for someone to step in and help them be healthy.
 
2013-08-21 08:52:22 AM

megarian: No pics for lulz? Not even a stock photo?

ABC mobile, I am disappoint.


How about a sketch?

drawception.com
 
2013-08-21 08:53:19 AM
I've heard this called megarexia quite a few years ago. A quick googling makes it look like the words mean the same, but "bigorexia" sounds infinitely more stupid as a word.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: They have an ideal and they're going for it.


No, they don't have an ideal. There is no amount of muscles they could build that would cause them to feel happy about their bodies, much like someone with anorexia will never feel that they are thin enough.
 
2013-08-21 08:54:40 AM

WorkingInParadise: megarian: No pics for lulz? Not even a stock photo?

ABC mobile, I am disappoint.

How about a sketch?


Great. Now I got coffee on my mobile device :)
 
2013-08-21 08:55:22 AM
I have TexMexorexia. It's been tough, but tasty.
 
2013-08-21 09:00:31 AM
Bighazi?
 
2013-08-21 09:00:32 AM

Grumpy Cat: I have TexMexorexia. It's been tough, but tasty.


As long as the hot sauce is legit, I don't think you have to worry.
 
2013-08-21 09:01:01 AM
WTF? Linking bodybuilding to some kind of dysmorphia? Bodybuilders compete against each other for whatever; of course they work and work and work. It isn't a disorder any more than marathon running is a disorder. Eating and being lethargic until you weigh 600 pounds IS a disorder. Shooting up a variety of chemicals to make your bodybuilding more effective is cheating, still not a disorder.

Steroid use among teens could be a problem worth covering in an article, but just casually mentioning it makes it pointless.
 
2013-08-21 09:03:18 AM

Carth: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So do anorexics. If they're doing serious short term or long term damage to their health maybe it is time for someone to step in and help them be healthy.


Lifting for hypertrophy doesn't put you at risk for short- or long-term damage to your health. Sitting on a couch all day eating crap food puts your health at risk. Depriving yourself of nutrition through starvation puts you at risk.
 
2013-08-21 09:03:23 AM

Slaxl: If 'anorexia' is from the Greek for 'lack of appetite,' 'an' being 'without', then if they want to use the 'orexia' part shouldn't it be prorexia? Of course I don't know what the Greek for "pro" is, which is why i'm using the Latin, and since it's not appetite, it's muscle mass, shouldn't it be, in Latin at least, prolacertosus? Anyone who actually knows Latin or Greek want to fix it up?

Also, subby, everything needs a proper official sounding name. It just has to be right!


The name is scandalous, which makes it bigorexiagate.
 
2013-08-21 09:07:27 AM
This is absolutely true. My own CSB: it started simple. I wanted to a lose a little weight, so I started a calorie deficit, reduced my carbs, gave up soda, hit the treadmill. Then I read about the weight loss benefits of resistance training, and before I knew it, adding a variety of bodyweight exercises to my routine, I'd lost more weight than I'd intended, gone down two sizes, and thought I had better start packing on lean muscle to avoid becoming "skinny fat".

The bodyweight exercises, with my reduced bodyweight, were too easy. I needed weights. As I started seeing results, I started with the protein supplements. A breakfast of whey powder in my oatmeal evolved into oatmeal in my whey powder. Protein powder in my coffee. Protein powder in Greek Yogurt. Protein powder in homemade ice cream. What began with sets of 5 reps turned into 12. I bought a power cage.

I never thought it could happen to me, but now I'm leading a gang of homosexuals across the wasteland, killing settlers for their gasoline. I don't know how to stop. Warn your children before it's too late.

wastelandweekend.com
 
2013-08-21 09:09:51 AM

dr_blasto: Linking bodybuilding to some kind of dysmorphia


it's actually old news. Plenty of bodybuilders have been found who think they're never big enough or "ripped" enough, no matter how big they are. They literally can not see themselves as they are, just as anorexics can't see themselves as they are.
 
2013-08-21 09:10:07 AM
I am very small framed, 5'6 145. I've just been eating a lot more protein and raw vegetables with moderate work outs during the week and have seen great results.

I go to a gym that caters to my type and also ranges from fat people who break a sweat opening the front door and girls who just walk on the treadmill. Their marketing very explicitly says they are not catering to these so called bigorexia dudes but for some reason there are two guys always there that, to quote Brian from Family Guy, look like Lou Ferrignos poop. These guys are massive with tiny little heads and its clearly a compulsive thing. I'm not licensed to diagnose jack shiat but you have people who want to be in good shape and do all sorts of work outs and then you have these two guys that do some crazy, exaggerated shiat to look like complete cartoon characters.
 
2013-08-21 09:11:53 AM

dr_blasto: Carth: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So do anorexics. If they're doing serious short term or long term damage to their health maybe it is time for someone to step in and help them be healthy.

Lifting for hypertrophy doesn't put you at risk for short- or long-term damage to your health. Sitting on a couch all day eating crap food puts your health at risk. Depriving yourself of nutrition through starvation puts you at risk.


Lifting for hypertrophy isn't the only requirement for body dysmorphic disorder. Not everyone who wants to build muscle or is a bodybuilder has BDD but for those who do no amount of lifting or muscle will ever be enough and they will keep going until they cause harm to their body.

BDD is a serious problem and it increases likelihood of suicide, depression, and substance abuse.
 
2013-08-21 09:12:05 AM
The Biggs boson
 
2013-08-21 09:14:49 AM

Carth: they will keep going until they cause harm to their body.


One of the things that body builders do before competitions is try to basically get as much fluid out of their systems as possible is actually quite dangerous. There have been bodybuilders who have died as a result of kidney disease brought on by this. Plus there's all the other possible side effects. Then there's the complete lack of body fat, which isn't healthy either.
 
2013-08-21 09:16:21 AM

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/obscure?


Boy do I have a treat for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK_S-GF-PA8

/XYBER HUUUUUUUGE
 
2013-08-21 09:16:42 AM
*click*   Oh... bulking up with muscle... I see.
 
2013-08-21 09:16:52 AM

WhyteRaven74: dr_blasto: Linking bodybuilding to some kind of dysmorphia

it's actually old news. Plenty of bodybuilders have been found who think they're never big enough or "ripped" enough, no matter how big they are. They literally can not see themselves as they are, just as anorexics can't see themselves as they are.


What about the flabby guys that believe they have the bodies of Greek Gods?
 
2013-08-21 09:20:59 AM

WhyteRaven74: Carth: they will keep going until they cause harm to their body.

One of the things that body builders do before competitions is try to basically get as much fluid out of their systems as possible is actually quite dangerous. There have been bodybuilders who have died as a result of kidney disease brought on by this. Plus there's all the other possible side effects. Then there's the complete lack of body fat, which isn't healthy either.


Cutting fluid is dangerous but I think it has most to do with trying to win a competition than body dysmorphic disorder. People do stupid and dangerous thing to do well in sport competitions whether it be endurance events, body building or risking concussions in contact sports.
 
2013-08-21 09:21:42 AM

WhyteRaven74: Carth: they will keep going until they cause harm to their body.

One of the things that body builders do before competitions is try to basically get as much fluid out of their systems as possible is actually quite dangerous. There have been bodybuilders who have died as a result of kidney disease brought on by this. Plus there's all the other possible side effects. Then there's the complete lack of body fat, which isn't healthy either.


Boxers, wrestlers, MMA fighters and every weight-class competitive sport has the exact same history of cutting weight. Combat sports make it even more risky by dehydrating/starving then quickly hydrating just in time to get cracked upside the noggin.
 
2013-08-21 09:26:20 AM

Carth: Cutting fluid is dangerous but I think it has most to do with trying to win a competition than body dysmorphic disorder.


True enough, it's just that it's one of those things that body builders do that is far from healthy. And just doing some Googling there have been a ton of top level body builders to either die because of kidney failure or end up hospitalized because of diuretics.

dr_blasto: Boxers, wrestlers, MMA fighters and every weight-class competitive sport has the exact same history of cutting weight


With body building it's not about cutting weight so much as just looking more ripped. And as for weight cutting to make a weight limit, I know there have been some wrestlers hospitalized and I think a few deaths even attributed to it.
 
2013-08-21 09:27:34 AM
If you don't buy TotalFark, you are in danger of getting Farkorexia.
And you don't want that.
 
2013-08-21 09:30:25 AM
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2013-08-21 09:32:22 AM

freewill: This is absolutely true. My own CSB: it started simple. I wanted to a lose a little weight, so I started a calorie deficit, reduced my carbs, gave up soda, hit the treadmill. Then I read about the weight loss benefits of resistance training, and before I knew it, adding a variety of bodyweight exercises to my routine, I'd lost more weight than I'd intended, gone down two sizes, and thought I had better start packing on lean muscle to avoid becoming "skinny fat".

The bodyweight exercises, with my reduced bodyweight, were too easy. I needed weights. As I started seeing results, I started with the protein supplements. A breakfast of whey powder in my oatmeal evolved into oatmeal in my whey powder. Protein powder in my coffee. Protein powder in Greek Yogurt. Protein powder in homemade ice cream. What began with sets of 5 reps turned into 12. I bought a power cage.

I never thought it could happen to me, but now I'm leading a gang of homosexuals across the wasteland, killing settlers for their gasoline. I don't know how to stop. Warn your children before it's too late.

[wastelandweekend.com image 400x261]


imageshack.us
 
2013-08-21 09:34:56 AM
Damn you Charles Atlas. Damn you for this scourge you have visited on our country.
 
2013-08-21 09:36:10 AM

WhyteRaven74: Carth: Cutting fluid is dangerous but I think it has most to do with trying to win a competition than body dysmorphic disorder.

True enough, it's just that it's one of those things that body builders do that is far from healthy. And just doing some Googling there have been a ton of top level body builders to either die because of kidney failure or end up hospitalized because of diuretics.

dr_blasto: Boxers, wrestlers, MMA fighters and every weight-class competitive sport has the exact same history of cutting weight

With body building it's not about cutting weight so much as just looking more ripped. And as for weight cutting to make a weight limit, I know there have been some wrestlers hospitalized and I think a few deaths even attributed to it.


Lots of people have had serious side effects from weight cutting. Daniel Cormier, during the 2004 Olympics, couldn't compete because his kidneys failed when he was cutting weight for the competition.

Boxers die because they don't have the proper fluid in the membrane around their brain due to weight cuts and the blows received in the fight cause significantly more trauma.

Bodybuilders typically do their cuts before a competition-reducing body fat to dangerous levels a d dehydrating.

These are sport-related risks, not BDF. A bodybuilder needs to get bigger to be competitive. The guys that just get massive and cut even without competition put themselves at risk all the same, for sport, much like an older guy risks spraining an ankle in a pick up basketball game.
 
2013-08-21 09:37:27 AM
sigdiamond2000: [imageshack.us image 405x640]

The one thing someone suffering from bigorexia needs to hear from supportive loved ones is that it's not too late.

It's not too late to just walk away, just walk away, just walk away.
 
2013-08-21 09:40:43 AM
Don't you guys know that women don't like hugely bulked up men and we think you're all gay? NTTAWAT.
 
2013-08-21 09:41:35 AM

InfrasonicTom: c'mon, you mean they skipped brorexia?


Nah, that's just gay.
 
2013-08-21 09:42:52 AM

CastIronStove: Slaxl: If 'anorexia' is from the Greek for 'lack of appetite,' 'an' being 'without', then if they want to use the 'orexia' part shouldn't it be prorexia? Of course I don't know what the Greek for "pro" is, which is why i'm using the Latin, and since it's not appetite, it's muscle mass, shouldn't it be, in Latin at least, prolacertosus? Anyone who actually knows Latin or Greek want to fix it up?

Also, subby, everything needs a proper official sounding name. It just has to be right!

The Romans incorporated many Greek words into Latin after conquering them. In fact, the 'orexia' in anorexia likely comes more directly from the Latin orexis than the Greek oreksis (transliterated). Pro doesn't really work in this context.

How about something like: lacertiorexia (desire or appetite for strength) or musculorumorexia (desire or appetite for muscles).


The Romans were just clean Greeks with iron.
 
2013-08-21 09:49:58 AM
Jeez.  If I could post a facepalm pic from my dinosaur of a computer I would.

My SO, aka old man, is so into this.  He's not only obsessed with working out, he has to stay thin too, even though he's got a little bit of a belly on him at age 42, took diet pills last year to get rid of about five pounds.  Drives me up the farkin' wall, it does and I've halfway wondered if he's not anorexic, but the man eats 2x as much as I do and doesn't puke it up, so that theory is dismissed.

His arms and shoulders are nice, I must say.  Guess it's okay for him to want to work out due to previous severe injuries, but there are some days/weeks that he just gets crazy over it and yammers constantly about it.  He's just got this weird fixation on muscle mass and has to keep himself within these crazy standards.

/yeah, I sound fat because I am
 
2013-08-21 10:01:50 AM

freewill: This is absolutely true. My own CSB: it started simple. I wanted to a lose a little weight, so I started a calorie deficit, reduced my carbs, gave up soda, hit the treadmill. Then I read about the weight loss benefits of resistance training, and before I knew it, adding a variety of bodyweight exercises to my routine, I'd lost more weight than I'd intended, gone down two sizes, and thought I had better start packing on lean muscle to avoid becoming "skinny fat".

The bodyweight exercises, with my reduced bodyweight, were too easy. I needed weights. As I started seeing results, I started with the protein supplements. A breakfast of whey powder in my oatmeal evolved into oatmeal in my whey powder. Protein powder in my coffee. Protein powder in Greek Yogurt. Protein powder in homemade ice cream. What began with sets of 5 reps turned into 12. I bought a power cage.

I never thought it could happen to me, but now I'm leading a gang of homosexuals across the wasteland, killing settlers for their gasoline. I don't know how to stop. Warn your children before it's too late.

[wastelandweekend.com image 400x261]


Just walk away
 
2013-08-21 10:04:00 AM
5x5's biatches.

"Creatine may cause severe muscle cramping, diarrhea and dizziness." No. Not even once.


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Everyone has a method to hit their caloric surplus when bulking.
 
2013-08-21 10:11:52 AM

specialkae: Jeez.  If I could post a facepalm pic from my dinosaur of a computer I would.

My SO, aka old man, is so into this.  He's not only obsessed with working out, he has to stay thin too, even though he's got a little bit of a belly on him at age 42, took diet pills last year to get rid of about five pounds.  Drives me up the farkin' wall, it does and I've halfway wondered if he's not anorexic, but the man eats 2x as much as I do and doesn't puke it up, so that theory is dismissed.

His arms and shoulders are nice, I must say.  Guess it's okay for him to want to work out due to previous severe injuries, but there are some days/weeks that he just gets crazy over it and yammers constantly about it.  He's just got this weird fixation on muscle mass and has to keep himself within these crazy standards.

/yeah, I sound fat because I am


That's not a problem; when you get older it's perfectly natural to resist the stuff that comes along with it.

Engaging in sports almost always carries injury risk-if you've ever done something simple or for fun like roller skating, you could easily hurt yourself. You don't need to be full-on roller derby to break a wrist.

Guys that lift to get big probably still have significantly less risk than couch potatoes over time. Days morphia would come into play if the look in a mirror and still see the scrawny 14-year-old body instead of the heavily muscled 200-lb body that actually exists.
 
2013-08-21 10:13:24 AM

Witness99: Don't you guys know that women don't like hugely bulked up men and we think you're all gay? NTTAWAT.


It does seem like the only people they're impressing is other dude bodybuilders.
 
2013-08-21 10:22:25 AM
dr_blasto:

Engaging in sports almost always carries injury risk-if you've ever done something simple or for fun like roller skating, you could easily hurt yourself. You don't need to be full-on roller derby to break a wrist.

Excellent point.

I keep him off of the skateboard now.  No more ollies for him.  Denied!  I'm thankful he's in good shape, he keeps me motivated, aka treadmill for my fat arse.  Torn his ACL 2 times in 3 years.  I told him if he wanted to skate down the street or sidewalk that was ok, but no railslides, other crazy tricks that he did in his youth, etc ('tis a pity, he was an excellent trick skater in his youth, although no Tony Hawk).  And he can only watch football, not play it, anymore :)  I'd like to have him around for a bit longer.
 
2013-08-21 10:23:22 AM

dr_blasto: specialkae: Jeez.  If I could post a facepalm pic from my dinosaur of a computer I would.

My SO, aka old man, is so into this.  He's not only obsessed with working out, he has to stay thin too, even though he's got a little bit of a belly on him at age 42, took diet pills last year to get rid of about five pounds.  Drives me up the farkin' wall, it does and I've halfway wondered if he's not anorexic, but the man eats 2x as much as I do and doesn't puke it up, so that theory is dismissed.

His arms and shoulders are nice, I must say.  Guess it's okay for him to want to work out due to previous severe injuries, but there are some days/weeks that he just gets crazy over it and yammers constantly about it.  He's just got this weird fixation on muscle mass and has to keep himself within these crazy standards.

/yeah, I sound fat because I am

That's not a problem; when you get older it's perfectly natural to resist the stuff that comes along with it.

Engaging in sports almost always carries injury risk-if you've ever done something simple or for fun like roller skating, you could easily hurt yourself. You don't need to be full-on roller derby to break a wrist.

Guys that lift to get big probably still have significantly less risk than couch potatoes over time. Days morphia would come into play if the look in a mirror and still see the scrawny 14-year-old body instead of the heavily muscled 200-lb body that actually exists.




Why is 200 pounds, muscled, weird to you. There are plenty of hulking 300 pounders out there. 200 pounds is pure beta territory.
 
2013-08-21 10:23:34 AM

Witness99: Don't you guys know that women don't like hugely bulked up men and we think you're all gay? NTTAWAT.


It doesn't really strike me as gay, but that super muscled look is kinda gross. Of course I generally go for smaller guys anyway. I don't care anything for the body type of the men they put half naked in Cosmo or calanders or whatever. It's funny since I like strength training and have been steadily increasing muscle mass. I actually had to cut back some when I realized I was going overboard and it was interfering with the rest of my life.

/No I don't look like a man or Madonna gristle
 
2013-08-21 10:25:15 AM
dr_blasto:  Days morphia

Daysmorphia is when you keep thinking it's Thursday, even though it's only Wednesday, right?

/How is it only Wednesday?
//HumpDayeyaye
 
2013-08-21 10:26:33 AM
Calendar dammit
 
2013-08-21 10:29:26 AM

LasersHurt: I think you're confusing the part for the whole. There are probably SOME who are mentally ill. The rest are just into it.


That is kinda my point they're not talking about people who are juicing. That has major heath implications for the simple reason that most people don't know that they are doing. They follow "bro-science" and eff themselves up.

They are talking about people who spend too much time in the gym? So what?

Just as people with anorexia nervosa go to extremes to shed weight, those with "bigorexia" spend hours in the gym every day, hoping to get bigger and - in their eyes - better. Bigorexia, also known as muscle dysmorphia, is marked by an obsession with the size and shape of the body, constant working out, weightlifting, and the use of supplements to "bulk up".

First and for most you can't constantly work out and get big. Not possible! You have to rest it a must!
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Second define supplements. Steroids?! Yeah, I say if you have to go to a street corner and shoot up in the parking lot you have a problem. But what about whey? Is my morning Muscle Milk proof that I have this disorder? What about my multi tab?

Frankly if you want to get big and cut you have to have some clue about nutrition! If you are muscled up you want to show it off and to do that you have to get cut. If you just stop eating you're going to loss that mass.

Bro-science:
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2013-08-21 10:30:57 AM

browntimmy: Witness99: Don't you guys know that women don't like hugely bulked up men and we think you're all gay? NTTAWAT.

It does seem like the only people they're impressing is other dude bodybuilders.


Yes. Well actually, they're more like in a race with themselves.

I've been a woman a long time, and I can never remember liking the bulked up look. I feel the same about women (and I kind of go back and forth with my sexual preference). To me, bodies are sexier and more sensual with a little meat on the bones (as opposed to rock hard massive muscle, which feels like concrete and kind of hurts). I don't think it's sexy, it doesn't make want to have sex.

I might be unusual, but the men that turn me on are biggish and kind of soft teddy bear types. I want them to be healthy and active, but not obsessive over muscle and steroids.

You guys are so lucky...women don't usually "studman69" over your looks. If you have good partner skills, you've got it made.
 
2013-08-21 10:31:18 AM
I actually think the old man is pretty sane, but his body dysmorphism catches up with him every now and then.  At least he consented willingly to staying off of the skateboards before I even showed up.  Otherwise, he'd have worse injuries by now, I suspect.  It's the working out part that I worry about some days.  He's fit but doesn't always eat lunch/drink enough water at work and he has a physically demanding job.  Then comes home and eats anything that doesn't eat him first.
 
2013-08-21 10:43:06 AM

Carth: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So do anorexics. If they're doing serious short term or long term damage to their health maybe it is time for someone to step in and help them be healthy.


The thing that anorexics and some body builders have in common is a distorted self-image, or body dysmorphia as various people upthread correctly named it. Most people are aware of the expression "when an anorexic looks in the mirror, she sees a fat person" -- an anorexic isn't merely somebody trying to get thinner, she is somebody who doesn't acknowledge how exceptionally thin she already is.

In exactly the same way, some bodybuilders look at themselves in the mirror and see an undermuscled person. They are not merely trying to get bigger, they don't acknowledge how exceptionally big they already are.

And if "holding to a belief in your mind contrary to what your mirror shows you" is a form of mental illness then yes, both are mentally ill. Incidentally, body dysmorphia has physical brain activate correlates.

Now, sit back and enjoy certain people arguing with the above as if the word "some" did not occur...
 
2013-08-21 10:46:26 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Frankly if you want to get big and cut you have to have some clue about nutrition! If you are muscled up you want to show it off and to do that you have to get cut. If you just stop eating you're going to loss that mass.


This. A 100 calorie deficit off your daily maintenance amount. It adds up and is effective with exercise. To figure this out, you need to flex your math muscle then eat clean while hitting your macros.

Nutrition is the hardest part if you're looking to get in shape no matter if it's getting bigger or smaller.

Just ask this guy:

lh4.googleusercontent.com

Disregard family, acquire aesthetics.
 
2013-08-21 10:46:30 AM
StoPPeRmobile:


Why is 200 pounds, muscled, weird to you. There are plenty of hulking 300 pounders out there. 200 pounds is pure beta territory.

Current SO is in the 165 lb area.  Tall, thin.  My ex-husband ranged up into 300+ lbs and I dropped his sorry ass one day when he snuck up on me doing dishes and grabbed my ass.  No problem with bigger guys.  In fact, it's a bit weird to be with a tall, thin man when I am short and fat, but...Okay there's no explaining this in this thread, but it is weird and took me the better part of a year to get over it.  I generally prefer larger men and it's an odd shift for me to be with someone so thinly built but I think I can deal with it.

Men.  Please listen even though I am full of hot air most of the time.  Women don't necessarily have the same expectations as you do.  We may love heavy guys, muscley guys, thin guys, whatever.  If you have that winning smile, charm, wit, or the magic touch, we will fall in love with you and keep you.  You don't have to outweigh us, just be nice and respect us and it's all good.  Few women expect an Atlas or Achilles in their bed, and while it's nice, well.  We just don't expect it.  Be fat, be skinny.  Be whatever in between, but confidence is not only sexy on women of all sizes, it is just as sexy on men of all sizes :)

/loved him dearly before but this thread has brought to light that it's ok to be attracted to a skinny guy even with his issues and mine
//Thanks, Fark!
 
2013-08-21 10:48:59 AM

robertus: dr_blasto:  Days morphia

Daysmorphia is when you keep thinking it's Thursday, even though it's only Wednesday, right?

/How is it only Wednesday?
//HumpDayeyaye


Lol at my autocorrect.
 
2013-08-21 10:50:55 AM

Witness99: browntimmy: Witness99: Don't you guys know that women don't like hugely bulked up men and we think you're all gay? NTTAWAT.

It does seem like the only people they're impressing is other dude bodybuilders.

Yes. Well actually, they're more like in a race with themselves.

I've been a woman a long time, and I can never remember liking the bulked up look. I feel the same about women (and I kind of go back and forth with my sexual preference). To me, bodies are sexier and more sensual with a little meat on the bones (as opposed to rock hard massive muscle, which feels like concrete and kind of hurts). I don't think it's sexy, it doesn't make want to have sex.

I might be unusual, but the men that turn me on are biggish and kind of soft teddy bear types. I want them to be healthy and active, but not obsessive over muscle and steroids.

You guys are so lucky...women don't usually "studman69" over your looks. If you have good partner skills, you've got it made.


I don't necessarily dislike the way muscles look, but I find what they represent troubling. If you have to lift 3 hours a day to keep your look, that's three hours a day that person doesn't spend reading, or socializing, or on a prospective partner. Likewise, I've never understood men into highly preened women. Sure, they look nice in a magazine, but if she spends three hours fixing her hair, do you think she's going to run around sweating and hiking, and she's not spending that time on something that I would care about more, like the muscle man. So basically, I take sculpted muscles on men and perfect hair and makeup on women to be signs of a vain idiot. Which is fine I guess, if you're into that kind of thing.

\I used to swim 20 hours a week, so I understand dedication to a sport. Somehow the lifting thing strikes me as more vanity, and at my age, maybe I'm not interested in the constantly training athlete, anyway.
\\An aunt spends 2-3 hours coiffing her hair. It makes my head hurt to even contemplate. My MIL gets frustrated with me because I don't own a hair dryer (I got used to wet hair as a swimmer).
 
2013-08-21 10:57:48 AM
Probably the distinction to make between bodybuilding as a hobby and bodybuilding as a mental disorder is, aside from a very distorted self image, is that the obsession will be making a real negative impact on your life. It doesn't have to be health related. That's something personal that likely only you and those who know you can recognize.
 
2013-08-21 11:01:14 AM

Qellaqan: If you have to lift 3 hours a day to keep your look, that's three hours a day that person doesn't spend reading, or socializing, or on a prospective partner.


A good lifting routine should take between 30-60 minutes. Anything else and the person probably has a case of farkarounditis. Unless you're training for a sport or competition there is no reason for a normal person to be in the gym longer than that.
 
2013-08-21 11:05:16 AM
It already has a name:  Male body dysmorphic disorder.

Nice research, Ric Romero.
 
2013-08-21 11:06:16 AM

StoPPeRmobile: dr_blasto: specialkae: Jeez.  If I could post a facepalm pic from my dinosaur of a computer I would.

My SO, aka old man, is so into this.  He's not only obsessed with working out, he has to stay thin too, even though he's got a little bit of a belly on him at age 42, took diet pills last year to get rid of about five pounds.  Drives me up the farkin' wall, it does and I've halfway wondered if he's not anorexic, but the man eats 2x as much as I do and doesn't puke it up, so that theory is dismissed.

His arms and shoulders are nice, I must say.  Guess it's okay for him to want to work out due to previous severe injuries, but there are some days/weeks that he just gets crazy over it and yammers constantly about it.  He's just got this weird fixation on muscle mass and has to keep himself within these crazy standards.

/yeah, I sound fat because I am

That's not a problem; when you get older it's perfectly natural to resist the stuff that comes along with it.

Engaging in sports almost always carries injury risk-if you've ever done something simple or for fun like roller skating, you could easily hurt yourself. You don't need to be full-on roller derby to break a wrist.

Guys that lift to get big probably still have significantly less risk than couch potatoes over time. Days morphia would come into play if the look in a mirror and still see the scrawny 14-year-old body instead of the heavily muscled 200-lb body that actually exists.



Why is 200 pounds, muscled, weird to you. There are plenty of hulking 300 pounders out there. 200 pounds is pure beta territory.


I never said it was weird.
 
2013-08-21 11:07:02 AM

specialkae: StoPPeRmobile:


Why is 200 pounds, muscled, weird to you. There are plenty of hulking 300 pounders out there. 200 pounds is pure beta territory.

Current SO is in the 165 lb area.  Tall, thin.  My ex-husband ranged up into 300+ lbs and I dropped his sorry ass one day when he snuck up on me doing dishes and grabbed my ass.  No problem with bigger guys.  In fact, it's a bit weird to be with a tall, thin man when I am short and fat, but...Okay there's no explaining this in this thread, but it is weird and took me the better part of a year to get over it.  I generally prefer larger men and it's an odd shift for me to be with someone so thinly built but I think I can deal with it.

Men.  Please listen even though I am full of hot air most of the time.  Women don't necessarily have the same expectations as you do.  We may love heavy guys, muscley guys, thin guys, whatever.  If you have that winning smile, charm, wit, or the magic touch, we will fall in love with you and keep you.  You don't have to outweigh us, just be nice and respect us and it's all good.  Few women expect an Atlas or Achilles in their bed, and while it's nice, well.  We just don't expect it.  Be fat, be skinny.  Be whatever in between, but confidence is not only sexy on women of all sizes, it is just as sexy on men of all sizes :)

/loved him dearly before but this thread has brought to light that it's ok to be attracted to a skinny guy even with his issues and mine
//Thanks, Fark!


I don't understand, are you saying you do or don't need WIE
 
2013-08-21 11:08:49 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: "Creatine may cause severe muscle cramping, diarrhea and dizziness."

 I have never even heard of creatine having a side effect like these.


You can if you're dumb enough to not drink water with it.  Article and author are stupid and lacking definition.
 
2013-08-21 11:20:51 AM

kaseyfarksdaladies: BraveNewCheneyWorld: "Creatine may cause severe muscle cramping, diarrhea and dizziness."

 I have never even heard of creatine having a side effect like these.

You can if you're dumb enough to not drink water with it.  Article and author are stupid and lacking definition.


You can't just bake it in brownies and mix it in oatmeal? Gotta get those macros brah.
 
2013-08-21 11:22:14 AM

kaseyfarksdaladies: Article and author are stupid and lacking definition


This was my first thought

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2013-08-21 11:27:33 AM
"Bigorexia"

www.roflzoo.com
 
2013-08-21 11:27:42 AM

Carth: You can't just bake it in brownies and mix it in oatmeal? Gotta get those macros brah.


love the BodyBuilding recipes


Anytime a body builder/fitness chick/serious athlete tells you something tastes wonderful you have to understand they are grading on a major curve.
 
2013-08-21 11:31:07 AM

Qellaqan: Witness99: browntimmy: Witness99: Don't you guys know that women don't like hugely bulked up men and we think you're all gay? NTTAWAT.

It does seem like the only people they're impressing is other dude bodybuilders.

Yes. Well actually, they're more like in a race with themselves.

I've been a woman a long time, and I can never remember liking the bulked up look. I feel the same about women (and I kind of go back and forth with my sexual preference). To me, bodies are sexier and more sensual with a little meat on the bones (as opposed to rock hard massive muscle, which feels like concrete and kind of hurts). I don't think it's sexy, it doesn't make want to have sex.

I might be unusual, but the men that turn me on are biggish and kind of soft teddy bear types. I want them to be healthy and active, but not obsessive over muscle and steroids.

You guys are so lucky...women don't usually "studman69" over your looks. If you have good partner skills, you've got it made.

I don't necessarily dislike the way muscles look, but I find what they represent troubling. If you have to lift 3 hours a day to keep your look, that's three hours a day that person doesn't spend reading, or socializing, or on a prospective partner. Likewise, I've never understood men into highly preened women. Sure, they look nice in a magazine, but if she spends three hours fixing her hair, do you think she's going to run around sweating and hiking, and she's not spending that time on something that I would care about more, like the muscle man. So basically, I take sculpted muscles on men and perfect hair and makeup on women to be signs of a vain idiot. Which is fine I guess, if you're into that kind of thing.

\I used to swim 20 hours a week, so I understand dedication to a sport. Somehow the lifting thing strikes me as more vanity, and at my age, maybe I'm not interested in the constantly training athlete, anyway.
\\An aunt spends 2-3 hours coiffing her hair. It makes my head hurt to even contemplate. My MIL gets frustrated with me because I don't own a hair dryer (I got used to wet hair as a swimmer).


Totally agree. I used to run 5 miles a day...less stringent now. Time is best spent invested in a caring partner.
 
2013-08-21 11:34:30 AM

Carth: Qellaqan: If you have to lift 3 hours a day to keep your look, that's three hours a day that person doesn't spend reading, or socializing, or on a prospective partner.

A good lifting routine should take between 30-60 minutes. Anything else and the person probably has a case of farkarounditis. Unless you're training for a sport or competition there is no reason for a normal person to be in the gym longer than that.


This. I am in and out in 60 minutes, maybe 75 if I fark around a bit or rest more if it's a bad day
 
2013-08-21 11:37:12 AM
uber humper:

I don't understand, are you saying you do or don't need WIE

WIE is very helpful and welcome by most single farkettes.  I am biased and so do not seek them.

Please carry on gentlemen and take all the naughty pictures you want!
 
2013-08-21 11:38:49 AM

Witness99: Totally agree. I used to run 5 miles a day...less stringent now. Time is best spent invested in a caring partner.


5 miles a day sounds doable even with a family. Even at 8 minute miles that is only 40 minutes of exercise a day.
 
2013-08-21 11:41:15 AM
I don't obsess about getting bigger, but about being lean and cut. I do take a couple of test/hgh boostesr, deer antler spray, a multi-vitamin, whey protein, fish oil, eat low fat high protein meals and exercise 5 times a week in my back yard using just my body weight.

Haven't been measured but firgure I still have about 2-4% of body fat I'd like to shed. I've been at it about 9 months now, have lost about 30 pounds in that time. I figure in 6 more months or so I should be there.

But I have never had a desire to be big, just looks weird and uncomfortable
 
2013-08-21 11:43:26 AM
I thought the retarded neologism we came up for this was, "manorexia."

/checked; apparently that's a secondary definition, now *shrugs*
 
2013-08-21 11:44:27 AM

Carth: 5 miles a day sounds doable even with a family. Even at 8 minute miles that is only 40 minutes of exercise a day.


You gotta stretch.

So call it 50 minutes.
 
2013-08-21 11:51:44 AM
So would he have smallorexia???
focusflowmo.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-21 12:05:13 PM

TrainingWheelsNeeded: I don't obsess about getting bigger, but about being lean and cut. I do take a couple of test/hgh boostesr, deer antler spray, a multi-vitamin, whey protein, fish oil, eat low fat high protein meals and exercise 5 times a week in my back yard using just my body weight.

Haven't been measured but firgure I still have about 2-4% of body fat I'd like to shed. I've been at it about 9 months now, have lost about 30 pounds in that time. I figure in 6 more months or so I should be there.

But I have never had a desire to be big, just looks weird and uncomfortable


Deer antler spray does nothing. Your stomach acid breaks it down
 
2013-08-21 12:11:06 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Anytime a body builder/fitness chick/serious athlete tells you something tastes wonderful you have to understand they are grading on a major curve.


I have to disagree.  I think the chocolate almond milk/frozen banana/unflavored protein shake is pretty yummy.
 
2013-08-21 12:20:32 PM

machoprogrammer: TrainingWheelsNeeded: I don't obsess about getting bigger, but about being lean and cut. I do take a couple of test/hgh boostesr, deer antler spray, a multi-vitamin, whey protein, fish oil, eat low fat high protein meals and exercise 5 times a week in my back yard using just my body weight.

Haven't been measured but firgure I still have about 2-4% of body fat I'd like to shed. I've been at it about 9 months now, have lost about 30 pounds in that time. I figure in 6 more months or so I should be there.

But I have never had a desire to be big, just looks weird and uncomfortable

Deer antler spray does nothing. Your stomach acid breaks it down


www.repsmag.com
 
2013-08-21 12:22:50 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Anytime a body builder/fitness chick/serious athlete tells you something tastes wonderful you have to understand they are grading on a major curve.

I have to disagree.  I think the chocolate almond milk/frozen banana/unflavored protein shake is pretty yummy.


See odds are we agree. Wonderful and pretty yummy are miles apart. Some of that food is pretty yummy but none of it will touch bacon wrapped filet.
 
2013-08-21 12:28:45 PM

machoprogrammer: Deer antler spray does nothing. Your stomach acid breaks it down


bro-science
 
2013-08-21 12:34:25 PM
I developed a heart arrhythmia putting on too much mass, doing weightlifting and karate. Your heart doesn't really care if that weight is muscle or fat. When it reaches its max, it'll tell you to F off.
 
2013-08-21 12:39:51 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: BraveNewCheneyWorld: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Anytime a body builder/fitness chick/serious athlete tells you something tastes wonderful you have to understand they are grading on a major curve.

I have to disagree.  I think the chocolate almond milk/frozen banana/unflavored protein shake is pretty yummy.

See odds are we agree. Wonderful and pretty yummy are miles apart. Some of that food is pretty yummy but none of it will touch bacon wrapped filet.


*Realizing that I have been grading on a curve, shakes fist*  Goddammit, it's true.
 
2013-08-21 12:44:47 PM
i think there's a difference between people who goto the gym with a goal in mind and people who goto the gym because they've got nothing better to do with their lives

i used to know a guy who treated weight lifting like world of warcraft - just total obsession and really stunted his ability to deal with real life to the point that it led to divorce and etc. BUT that guy had personality issues that led to being obsessed with the gym

also getting big just for looks? eh, i think looks should be a nice side-effect and not necessarily the goal, ya know that whole chicken-leg syndrome

i think lots of people should lift to a certain degree, it's great for preventing injury
 
2013-08-21 12:58:50 PM
Solid conversation and remarkably little AW'ing.  What have you folks done with my Fark??
 
2013-08-21 12:59:13 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: *Realizing that I have been grading on a curve, shakes fist* Goddammit, it's true.


**Manly Hug**

It's alright. Sometimes you need an outsider looking in to see the problem.
 
2013-08-21 01:22:10 PM
I follow a simple 5x5 routine. 3 lifts, 3 days a week. I watch the other guys in the gym do lots of curls, chest and back work, who are much bigger than me never put a barbell on their back. I am in and out in about 45-60 minutes each day and I don't stand around like a brorilla looking at the weights and shooting shiat. I just want to be strong and lose fat.

I seriously want to 'roid rage out on the guys who do curls in the power rack, the assholes who don't rerack their weights, and the assholes who do both.
 
2013-08-21 01:25:58 PM
APPROVES!!!

img248.imageshack.us
 
2013-08-21 01:45:15 PM

dr_blasto: Carth: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So do anorexics. If they're doing serious short term or long term damage to their health maybe it is time for someone to step in and help them be healthy.

Lifting for hypertrophy doesn't put you at risk for short- or long-term damage to your health. Sitting on a couch all day eating crap food puts your health at risk. Depriving yourself of nutrition through starvation puts you at risk.


I didn't realize the body wanted to process 32 eggs, 5 pounds of whey and 3 gallons of milk every day along with whatever test regiment they are doing.
 
2013-08-21 02:11:53 PM
Manorexia
 
2013-08-21 02:16:12 PM

cybrwzrd: I follow a simple 5x5 routine. 3 lifts, 3 days a week. I watch the other guys in the gym do lots of curls, chest and back work, who are much bigger than me never put a barbell on their back. I am in and out in about 45-60 minutes each day and I don't stand around like a brorilla looking at the weights and shooting shiat. I just want to be strong and lose fat.

I seriously want to 'roid rage out on the guys who do curls in the power rack, the assholes who don't rerack their weights, and the assholes who do both.


^^This. I'm not super muscle bound freak but I like to keep in shape and started hitting the gym a few times a week earlier this year. My routine is 50 minutes 3 days a week with occasional cardio on the weekends. Yep, I do whey protein, have used creatine as well and never had dizzy whatever bs they talk about. Never considered roids as I have no intention of being an aggro all muscle nutjob. A bit of muscle, some good definition, and feeling healthier than the last 20 years of sitting on my lazy ass doing nothing. I'm 5'8 and have gone from 170 to 158 and feel better everday as I lost some fat and put on some muscle mass instead. Also my wife goes to the gym with me and it's time we get to spend together...away from the kids.

Not re-racking and leaving their nasty sweat on everything is what irks me. I watched a guy blow his nose into his hand and then go straight to lifting, didn't wipe the bar when he was done either. Disgusting.
 
2013-08-21 02:24:41 PM

abhorrent1: It already had a name. It's called OCD


It's actually called "muscle dysmorphia", and it happens.  There's no end game for men wanting to get bigger, so you keep trying anything to get more muscle and more definition.

No matter how big and cut you get, there's always more you can pack on.
 
2013-08-21 02:34:49 PM

cybrwzrd: I follow a simple 5x5 routine. 3 lifts, 3 days a week. I watch the other guys in the gym do lots of curls, chest and back work, who are much bigger than me never put a barbell on their back. I am in and out in about 45-60 minutes each day and I don't stand around like a brorilla looking at the weights and shooting shiat. I just want to be strong and lose fat.

I seriously want to 'roid rage out on the guys who do curls in the power rack, the assholes who don't rerack their weights, and the assholes who do both.


Speaking of power rack abuse, just this week I saw a guy doing barbell WRIST CURLS in the power rack.  I really should have taken a video of that.
 
2013-08-21 02:36:13 PM

Carth: Qellaqan: If you have to lift 3 hours a day to keep your look, that's three hours a day that person doesn't spend reading, or socializing, or on a prospective partner.

A good lifting routine should take between 30-60 minutes. Anything else and the person probably has a case of farkarounditis. Unless you're training for a sport or competition there is no reason for a normal person to be in the gym longer than that.


I agree. My numbers come from a friend who had a thing for meatheads, and they would work out that much a day. I don't know what they did, but they did. For swimming, an hour a day is like minimum, though, so maybe they were cross training with cardio stuff?

No idea, but I think dedicated people can waste unlimited time on whatever their fetish is, whether it's lifting, personal grooming, farking, or working. Productivity isn't always the goal.
 
2013-08-21 02:40:34 PM

Cyclonic Cooking Action: dr_blasto: Carth: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So do anorexics. If they're doing serious short term or long term damage to their health maybe it is time for someone to step in and help them be healthy.

Lifting for hypertrophy doesn't put you at risk for short- or long-term damage to your health. Sitting on a couch all day eating crap food puts your health at risk. Depriving yourself of nutrition through starvation puts you at risk.

I didn't realize the body wanted to process 32 eggs, 5 pounds of whey and 3 gallons of milk every day along with whatever test regiment they are doing.


Consuming .8g to 1g of protein per pound of lean body mass a day isn't that hard.  No need to resort to a scoop of whey protein if you're eating a good balance of whole foods.  Chicken, beef, fish, nuts, beans, avocados, etc...protein sources are out there and can be covered in your daily meals/snacks.
 
2013-08-21 02:53:34 PM

WhiskeySticks: Cyclonic Cooking Action: dr_blasto: Carth: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How about we just call it what it is? Dedication. They have an ideal and they're going for it. As along as they're not doing anything illegal I say live and let live.

So do anorexics. If they're doing serious short term or long term damage to their health maybe it is time for someone to step in and help them be healthy.

Lifting for hypertrophy doesn't put you at risk for short- or long-term damage to your health. Sitting on a couch all day eating crap food puts your health at risk. Depriving yourself of nutrition through starvation puts you at risk.

I didn't realize the body wanted to process 32 eggs, 5 pounds of whey and 3 gallons of milk every day along with whatever test regiment they are doing.

Consuming .8g to 1g of protein per pound of lean body mass a day isn't that hard.  No need to resort to a scoop of whey protein if you're eating a good balance of whole foods.  Chicken, beef, fish, nuts, beans, avocados, etc...protein sources are out there and can be covered in your daily meals/snacks.


My point here is, do their livers, kidneys, heart and everything else grow in proportion to the quantities of food they ingest?  A lot of these guys look worn out.
 
2013-08-21 03:00:39 PM

Cyclonic Cooking Action: My point here is, do their livers, kidneys, heart and everything else grow in proportion to the quantities of food they ingest?  A lot of these guys look worn out.


That's true.  Most lifters know that muscles need to rest and recover, but give no thought to allowing their internal organs recovery.  Also, many people follow the protein, protein, protein, mantra while forgetting that without healthy carbs, vitamins and fats, they're not only hurting their progress, but slowly killing themselves.
 
2013-08-21 03:10:53 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: I follow a simple 5x5 routine. 3 lifts, 3 days a week. I watch the other guys in the gym do lots of curls, chest and back work, who are much bigger than me never put a barbell on their back. I am in and out in about 45-60 minutes each day and I don't stand around like a brorilla looking at the weights and shooting shiat. I just want to be strong and lose fat.

I seriously want to 'roid rage out on the guys who do curls in the power rack, the assholes who don't rerack their weights, and the assholes who do both.

Speaking of power rack abuse, just this week I saw a guy doing barbell WRIST CURLS in the power rack.  I really should have taken a video of that.


why the fark would someone do that?
 
2013-08-21 03:22:03 PM

dr_blasto: BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: I follow a simple 5x5 routine. 3 lifts, 3 days a week. I watch the other guys in the gym do lots of curls, chest and back work, who are much bigger than me never put a barbell on their back. I am in and out in about 45-60 minutes each day and I don't stand around like a brorilla looking at the weights and shooting shiat. I just want to be strong and lose fat.

I seriously want to 'roid rage out on the guys who do curls in the power rack, the assholes who don't rerack their weights, and the assholes who do both.

Speaking of power rack abuse, just this week I saw a guy doing barbell WRIST CURLS in the power rack.  I really should have taken a video of that.

why the fark would someone do that?


I can only think of 2 valid reasons. No other barbells available in the gym, or you are in your own house and you only have one barbell that is on your power rack.
 
2013-08-21 03:36:41 PM

cybrwzrd: I can only think of 2 valid reasons. No other barbells available in the gym, or you are in your own house and you only have one barbell that is on your power rack.


There were maybe 4 people in the entire gym.  All the dumbbells were free, plenty of other barbells, about 8 benches.  Yeah, there was no reason for him to be taking up the power rack.  Not only that, but I think he was curling 65lbs, including the bar.

I do love my gym because every time I go, there's almost nobody there to get in my way, but I guarantee if someone gets in my way, 100% of the time, they're doing insanely stupid shiat like this.
 
2013-08-21 03:39:00 PM

Qellaqan: Carth: Qellaqan: If you have to lift 3 hours a day to keep your look, that's three hours a day that person doesn't spend reading, or socializing, or on a prospective partner.

A good lifting routine should take between 30-60 minutes. Anything else and the person probably has a case of farkarounditis. Unless you're training for a sport or competition there is no reason for a normal person to be in the gym longer than that.

I agree. My numbers come from a friend who had a thing for meatheads, and they would work out that much a day. I don't know what they did, but they did. For swimming, an hour a day is like minimum, though, so maybe they were cross training with cardio stuff?

No idea, but I think dedicated people can waste unlimited time on whatever their fetish is, whether it's lifting, personal grooming, farking, or working. Productivity isn't always the goal.


That comment is a lot more amusing if I assume it got filtered.

Sure you can spend as much time as you want working out as long as it doesn't affect other aspects of your life and you're enjoying it why not. Just people should realize that the benefits for resistance training drop off considerable after 60 minutes.
 
2013-08-21 03:53:27 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: I can only think of 2 valid reasons. No other barbells available in the gym, or you are in your own house and you only have one barbell that is on your power rack.

There were maybe 4 people in the entire gym.  All the dumbbells were free, plenty of other barbells, about 8 benches.  Yeah, there was no reason for him to be taking up the power rack.  Not only that, but I think he was curling 65lbs, including the bar.

I do love my gym because every time I go, there's almost nobody there to get in my way, but I guarantee if someone gets in my way, 100% of the time, they're doing insanely stupid shiat like this.


I will admit, I am not perfect. I do OHP in the power rack at my gym, but that is because the power rack is the only place in my gym with the bumper pads for Dead lifts/cleans and ever other bar is paired with a bench.
 
2013-08-21 04:22:50 PM

cybrwzrd: but that is because the power rack is the only place in my gym with the bumper pads for Dead lifts/cleans and ever other bar is paired with a bench.


Well, if that's the only section of padded floor, that's you gym owner's fault.  We have padding in the entire free weight area, but no legitimate bumper pads or plates, which is kind of nice in a way because we don't ever have anyone drop weights on purpose.

Btw, I think some of you will enjoy this.   How not to bench press.
 
2013-08-21 04:26:34 PM

freewill: This is absolutely true. My own CSB: it started simple. I wanted to a lose a little weight, so I started a calorie deficit, reduced my carbs, gave up soda, hit the treadmill. Then I read about the weight loss benefits of resistance training, and before I knew it, adding a variety of bodyweight exercises to my routine, I'd lost more weight than I'd intended, gone down two sizes, and thought I had better start packing on lean muscle to avoid becoming "skinny fat".

The bodyweight exercises, with my reduced bodyweight, were too easy. I needed weights. As I started seeing results, I started with the protein supplements. A breakfast of whey powder in my oatmeal evolved into oatmeal in my whey powder. Protein powder in my coffee. Protein powder in Greek Yogurt. Protein powder in homemade ice cream. What began with sets of 5 reps turned into 12. I bought a power cage.

I never thought it could happen to me, but now I'm leading a gang of homosexuals across the wasteland, killing settlers for their gasoline. I don't know how to stop. Warn your children before it's too late.


Holy crap, seriously. How long have you been saving this in your arsenal waiting to use it. My god man, I almost threw up alittle. Thanks!
 
2013-08-21 04:36:46 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: but that is because the power rack is the only place in my gym with the bumper pads for Dead lifts/cleans and ever other bar is paired with a bench.

Well, if that's the only section of padded floor, that's you gym owner's fault.  We have padding in the entire free weight area, but no legitimate bumper pads or plates, which is kind of nice in a way because we don't ever have anyone drop weights on purpose.

Btw, I think some of you will enjoy this.   How not to bench press.


O_o
 
2013-08-21 05:01:49 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: but that is because the power rack is the only place in my gym with the bumper pads for Dead lifts/cleans and ever other bar is paired with a bench.

Well, if that's the only section of padded floor, that's you gym owner's fault.  We have padding in the entire free weight area, but no legitimate bumper pads or plates, which is kind of nice in a way because we don't ever have anyone drop weights on purpose.

Btw, I think some of you will enjoy this.   How not to bench press.


Oh, and also   cable rows
 
2013-08-21 05:26:37 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: but that is because the power rack is the only place in my gym with the bumper pads for Dead lifts/cleans and ever other bar is paired with a bench.

Well, if that's the only section of padded floor, that's you gym owner's fault.  We have padding in the entire free weight area, but no legitimate bumper pads or plates, which is kind of nice in a way because we don't ever have anyone drop weights on purpose.

Btw, I think some of you will enjoy this.   How not to bench press.


Thank you so much for that.  Gold!
 
2013-08-21 06:36:44 PM

dr_blasto: BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: I follow a simple 5x5 routine. 3 lifts, 3 days a week. I watch the other guys in the gym do lots of curls, chest and back work, who are much bigger than me never put a barbell on their back. I am in and out in about 45-60 minutes each day and I don't stand around like a brorilla looking at the weights and shooting shiat. I just want to be strong and lose fat.

I seriously want to 'roid rage out on the guys who do curls in the power rack, the assholes who don't rerack their weights, and the assholes who do both.

Speaking of power rack abuse, just this week I saw a guy doing barbell WRIST CURLS in the power rack.  I really should have taken a video of that.

why the fark would someone do that?


At the gym now, and people are in the rack doing barbell rows... Been there for half an hour.
 
2013-08-21 06:41:46 PM

C. Hines: Holy crap, seriously. How long have you been saving this in your arsenal waiting to use it. My god man, I almost threw up alittle. Thanks!


Nobody ignores the Humungus. Nobody. Nobody.
 
2013-08-21 07:05:34 PM

cybrwzrd: At the gym now, and people are in the rack doing barbell rows... Been there for half an hour.


I don't even know what to say, that's even worse than wrist curl guy.
 
2013-08-21 07:48:45 PM
In weightlifting circles the pretty boy bodybuilders are commonly referred to as "bottoms" and the big, fat, hairy powerlifters are referred to as "tops" or "bears".

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2013-08-21 08:04:44 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: At the gym now, and people are in the rack doing barbell rows... Been there for half an hour.

I don't even know what to say, that's even worse than wrist curl guy.


They were using the barbell hooks to hold the barbell on the front of the rack just high enough so that 45s don't touch the ground for easy removal between sets... They were not even inside the rack.
 
2013-08-21 10:11:27 PM

cybrwzrd: BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: At the gym now, and people are in the rack doing barbell rows... Been there for half an hour.

I don't even know what to say, that's even worse than wrist curl guy.

They were using the barbell hooks to hold the barbell on the front of the rack just high enough so that 45s don't touch the ground for easy removal between sets... They were not even inside the rack.


So, they're too farking lazy to pick up one side at a time and take the plate(s) off? Did they ride an escalator up to the gym entrance?
 
2013-08-21 10:32:50 PM

cybrwzrd: BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: At the gym now, and people are in the rack doing barbell rows... Been there for half an hour.

I don't even know what to say, that's even worse than wrist curl guy.

They were using the barbell hooks to hold the barbell on the front of the rack just high enough so that 45s don't touch the ground for easy removal between sets... They were not even inside the rack.


So.. they're taking up the power rack for something that could be accomplished with a single 5lb plate?  Brilliant!
 
2013-08-22 12:21:49 AM
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2013-08-22 12:25:40 AM

dr_blasto: BraveNewCheneyWorld: cybrwzrd: I follow a simple 5x5 routine. 3 lifts, 3 days a week. I watch the other guys in the gym do lots of curls, chest and back work, who are much bigger than me never put a barbell on their back. I am in and out in about 45-60 minutes each day and I don't stand around like a brorilla looking at the weights and shooting shiat. I just want to be strong and lose fat.

I seriously want to 'roid rage out on the guys who do curls in the power rack, the assholes who don't rerack their weights, and the assholes who do both.

Speaking of power rack abuse, just this week I saw a guy doing barbell WRIST CURLS in the power rack.  I really should have taken a video of that.

why the fark would someone do that?


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2013-08-22 06:43:49 AM
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