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2013-08-21 08:23:20 AM
Was thinking this could happen a night after a Taco Bell.
 
2013-08-21 09:26:04 AM
/willing to bet it was a Direct Energy contractor
//f-ing morons
 
2013-08-21 09:36:14 AM
DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...
 
2013-08-21 09:45:20 AM
Dude should go by a couple of Lottery tickets.
 
2013-08-21 09:58:54 AM
Was his fob on a fob?
 
2013-08-21 09:59:06 AM
Darned good thing he had a remote fob.

Kablooie!
 
2013-08-21 10:01:47 AM

corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...


SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?
 
2013-08-21 10:07:52 AM
But my spare set of clothes are in my truck.

Seriously, a spare set of basics are cheap insurance. Spilt food, rips, blood spatter, never know why you'll need a change.
 
2013-08-21 10:08:00 AM
I love that the Mythbusters were going to do this one and initially dismissed it as totally not possible...but then when they tried it for the "See?  It doesn't work" initial test, it worked flawlessly and obliterated the van.
 
2013-08-21 10:11:15 AM
i1.ytimg.com
200 yards... Nothing to be proud of Russ...
 
2013-08-21 10:18:13 AM
"Hey boss, I'm taking the day off today.  No, I'm not sick, my truck exploded."
 
2013-08-21 10:18:21 AM
So you're supposed to bring your acetylene tank into the house for the night?  How about you just make sure that the valve is closed.
 
2013-08-21 10:23:39 AM

offacue: So you're supposed to bring your acetylene tank into the house for the night?  How about you just make sure that the valve is closed.


but that requires doing something that might constitute as work
 
2013-08-21 10:23:46 AM

devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?


Yea, that didn't sound right to me either.  Isn't it just purified compressed air?
 
2013-08-21 10:24:01 AM

devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?


The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".
 
2013-08-21 10:24:12 AM
So this guy had to pick himself off the ground, stand there and contemplate that maybe, someone was trying to kill him. It has to really sting when he later realizes it's his own stupidity trying to do him in.
 
2013-08-21 10:24:26 AM
Not as epic as this....


pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-08-21 10:25:32 AM

corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...


nitrox perhaps if the o2 concentration is wrong, or they left the oxygen generator running.
 
2013-08-21 10:25:38 AM

dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".


Would just make your cigarette burn brighter, but there's nothing present to explode.
 
2013-08-21 10:26:22 AM

devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?


I'm thinking Oxygen, which in high concentrations can make many benign flammable substances burn really fast. Almost explosive.
 
2013-08-21 10:26:33 AM

devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?


When not properly cared for, leaky ones are.  Oxygen gets pretty feisty when it meets flame. And Yes, very flammable.

In one case in question, it may have been a tank leaking overnight in a poorly circulated area of the boat, fella in question was sneaking a cigarette away from his wife, bent down and tucked in to light his cigarette away from the wind and, poof. Guy was actually lucky, flash burns face and neck, serious enough that they sedated him, sent him to the burn center in Miami to monitor effects on his airway.

This is purely anecdotal from a lobster weekend incident in the 90's, but we'll say the cigarette story was somewhat dubious, may have been smoking something hotter, but the flash burns and damage to the boat were attributed to the tanks.

Properly-cared for Scuba tanks should not be that risky, no.
 
2013-08-21 10:30:00 AM

corq: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

When not properly cared for, leaky ones are.  Oxygen gets pretty feisty when it meets flame. And Yes, very flammable.

In one case in question, it may have been a tank leaking overnight in a poorly circulated area of the boat, fella in question was sneaking a cigarette away from his wife, bent down and tucked in to light his cigarette away from the wind and, poof. Guy was actually lucky, flash burns face and neck, serious enough that they sedated him, sent him to the burn center in Miami to monitor effects on his airway.

This is purely anecdotal from a lobster weekend incident in the 90's, but we'll say the cigarette story was somewhat dubious, may have been smoking something hotter, but the flash burns and damage to the boat were attributed to the tanks.

Properly-cared for Scuba tanks should not be that risky, no.


Don't believe stories people tell you.  Just file them away as "cute but unverified" until you get facts to corroborate them.
 
2013-08-21 10:31:43 AM

wildcardjack: But my spare set of clothes are in my truck.

Seriously, a spare set of basics are cheap insurance. Spilt food, rips, blood spatter, never know why you'll need a change.


Is there something you would like to share with the rest of the class?
 
2013-08-21 10:31:57 AM

dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".


24 years, and I stand rightly corrected - actually meant "Lobster Weekend" -- dive season/lobster season/crazy people with tickle sticks season.

Yes you can dive all year, but lobster weekends used to bring around out the very special folks.
 
2013-08-21 10:32:51 AM
Oxygen is flammable, why else do you think the sun is on fire? It's in our sky which is made of oxygen, so it caught fire. Good thing for us as it burns light and lets us do stuff for free during the day but bad for us as according to the Bible it will end one day and we will all be in the dark.
 
2013-08-21 10:47:13 AM
"It felt like the house was about to fall. It knocked a clock off of our wall and it broke one of my windows," a woman who lives nearby said.

smc.temple.edu
 
2013-08-21 10:52:40 AM
These boat assplosion stories sound more like a fuel vapor issue than a scuba tank issue.
 
2013-08-21 10:53:32 AM
Why do so many people think O2 is flammable?
/it's an oxidizer
//not a fuel (unless it's liquid)
 
2013-08-21 11:04:30 AM

ChipNASA: Dude should go by a couple of Lottery tickets.


No shiat. Maybe he's on a roll.
 
2013-08-21 11:04:55 AM
If you're SCUBA takes are explosive you're doing something very wrong.
 
2013-08-21 11:08:02 AM

ToInfinity: If you're SCUBA takes are is explosive you're doing something very wrong.


FTFY
 
2013-08-21 11:08:21 AM

corq: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

When not properly cared for, leaky ones are.  Oxygen gets pretty feisty when it meets flame. And Yes, very flammable.

In one case in question, it may have been a tank leaking overnight in a poorly circulated area of the boat, fella in question was sneaking a cigarette away from his wife, bent down and tucked in to light his cigarette away from the wind and, poof. Guy was actually lucky, flash burns face and neck, serious enough that they sedated him, sent him to the burn center in Miami to monitor effects on his airway.

This is purely anecdotal from a lobster weekend incident in the 90's, but we'll say the cigarette story was somewhat dubious, may have been smoking something hotter, but the flash burns and damage to the boat were attributed to the tanks.

Properly-cared for Scuba tanks should not be that risky, no.


So it's been close to a decade since I've been scuba diving but unless someone's using nitrox or Tri-mix, scuba tanks just have regular, albeit highly compressed, air in them. And I thought Nitrox stayed well under 40% O²... and the guys who play with trimix are not careless.

/scuba dove regularly from age 16 till 22 when I got married and could no longer afford it.
// and could no longer use my Dad's (a dive instructor) spare gear.
 
2013-08-21 11:09:34 AM

jscart: Why do so many people think O2 is flammable?
/it's an oxidizer
//not a fuel (unless it's liquid)


It's not a fuel EVER.
 
2013-08-21 11:23:11 AM

noitsnot: jscart: Why do so many people think O2 is flammable?
/it's an oxidizer
//not a fuel (unless it's liquid)

It's not a fuel EVER.


It's an accelerant, and only explosively dangerous while compressed.  Propane is a fuel.  I should know, because I sell propane, and propane accessories.

/it's pronounced "Proh-paine."
 
2013-08-21 11:34:32 AM

noitsnot: jscart: Why do so many people think O2 is flammable?
/it's an oxidizer
//not a fuel (unless it's liquid)

It's not a fuel EVER.


correct I should have left that last part off
/not a rocket scientist
//did not stay in a motel last night either
///used to fill cups with O2 from torch tanks and put cigarettes in them (people thought it would explode)
 
2013-08-21 11:48:31 AM

spunkymunky: corq: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

When not properly cared for, leaky ones are.  Oxygen gets pretty feisty when it meets flame. And Yes, very flammable.

In one case in question, it may have been a tank leaking overnight in a poorly circulated area of the boat, fella in question was sneaking a cigarette away from his wife, bent down and tucked in to light his cigarette away from the wind and, poof. Guy was actually lucky, flash burns face and neck, serious enough that they sedated him, sent him to the burn center in Miami to monitor effects on his airway.

This is purely anecdotal from a lobster weekend incident in the 90's, but we'll say the cigarette story was somewhat dubious, may have been smoking something hotter, but the flash burns and damage to the boat were attributed to the tanks.

Properly-cared for Scuba tanks should not be that risky, no.

So it's been close to a decade since I've been scuba diving but unless someone's using nitrox or Tri-mix, scuba tanks just have regular, albeit highly compressed, air in them. And I thought Nitrox stayed well under 40% O²... and the guys who play with trimix are not careless.

/scuba dove regularly from age 16 till 22 when I got married and could no longer afford it.
// and could no longer use my Dad's (a dive instructor) spare gear.


Or maybe someone just didn't turn on the bilge fans when they first got on the boat... Little built up gasoline fumes would do that to you...
 
2013-08-21 11:56:59 AM
Propane tank incorrectly stored took the life of my friend (a fellow fark lurker), on June 3rd of this year (in Virginia Beach)

Yes, I know this one was an acetylene tank,  This one at least makes you wonder if there was malevolent intent.

/In my friend's case, a cigarette that did not go out hit fireworks carelessly thrown around in the sunroom hit the propane tank improperly stored there.
//still mad.  stupid death
 
2013-08-21 12:29:12 PM

noitsnot: dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".

Would just make your cigarette burn brighter, but there's nothing present to explode.


I really hope you don't work with pressurized gas.  O2 is explosive in concentrations all by itself. Technically it's just flammable, but if you walk into a room full of pure O2 with an ignition source, you won't live long enough to appreciate the difference.

Also, the tanks are pressurized vessels, which are fully capable of exploding if they are heated by say... a fire.  Believe me when I tell you that you really really don't want to be anywhere near by if that happens.  The shockwave is bad, but the shrapnel is deadly.

More than a few boats have been blown to little pieces by nothing more than an open O2 tank and an ignition source.  Even more because a fire broke out and the tanks cooked off.
 
2013-08-21 12:40:26 PM

Kahabut: noitsnot: dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".

Would just make your cigarette burn brighter, but there's nothing present to explode.

I really hope you don't work with pressurized gas.  O2 is explosive in concentrations all by itself. Technically it's just flammable, but if you walk into a room full of pure O2 with an ignition source, you won't live long enough to appreciate the difference.

Also, the tanks are pressurized vessels, which are fully capable of exploding if they are heated by say... a fire.  Believe me when I tell you that you really really don't want to be anywhere near by if that happens.  The shockwave is bad, but the shrapnel is deadly.

More than a few boats have been blown to little pieces by nothing more than an open O2 tank and an ignition source.  Even more because a fire broke out and the tanks cooked off.


That is completely wrong.  Totally, completely wrong.

And yes, I have worked a lot with bottled hydrogen, oxygen, helium and nitrogen.
 
2013-08-21 12:44:20 PM

Kahabut: noitsnot: dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".

Would just make your cigarette burn brighter, but there's nothing present to explode.

I really hope you don't work with pressurized gas.  O2 is explosive in concentrations all by itself. Technically it's just flammable, but if you walk into a room full of pure O2 with an ignition source, you won't live long enough to appreciate the difference.

Also, the tanks are pressurized vessels, which are fully capable of exploding if they are heated by say... a fire.  Believe me when I tell you that you really really don't want to be anywhere near by if that happens.  The shockwave is bad, but the shrapnel is deadly.

More than a few boats have been blown to little pieces by nothing more than an open O2 tank and an ignition source.  Even more because a fire broke out and the tanks cooked off.


So where are all these boats with oxygen tanks on them?  I've never heard of that - sounds like something a boat would have no reason to carry.

Nice attempt to back up your alt.  You sound a lot like corq.
 
2013-08-21 12:51:31 PM

noitsnot: Kahabut: noitsnot: dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".

Would just make your cigarette burn brighter, but there's nothing present to explode.

I really hope you don't work with pressurized gas.  O2 is explosive in concentrations all by itself. Technically it's just flammable, but if you walk into a room full of pure O2 with an ignition source, you won't live long enough to appreciate the difference.

Also, the tanks are pressurized vessels, which are fully capable of exploding if they are heated by say... a fire.  Believe me when I tell you that you really really don't want to be anywhere near by if that happens.  The shockwave is bad, but the shrapnel is deadly.

More than a few boats have been blown to little pieces by nothing more than an open O2 tank and an ignition source.  Even more because a fire broke out and the tanks cooked off.

That is completely wrong.  Totally, completely wrong.

And yes, I have worked a lot with bottled hydrogen, oxygen, helium and nitrogen.


I beg to differ;  O2 tanks can indeed go boom. And, as the tanks are under pressure, they are commonly big bomb-y booms. Not bottled - tanked.
 
2013-08-21 01:07:25 PM

dj_spanmaster: noitsnot: Kahabut: noitsnot: dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".

Would just make your cigarette burn brighter, but there's nothing present to explode.

I really hope you don't work with pressurized gas.  O2 is explosive in concentrations all by itself. Technically it's just flammable, but if you walk into a room full of pure O2 with an ignition source, you won't live long enough to appreciate the difference.

Also, the tanks are pressurized vessels, which are fully capable of exploding if they are heated by say... a fire.  Believe me when I tell you that you really really don't want to be anywhere near by if that happens.  The shockwave is bad, but the shrapnel is deadly.

More than a few boats have been blown to little pieces by nothing more than an open O2 tank and an ignition source.  Even more because a fire broke out and the tanks cooked off.

That is completely wrong.  Totally, completely wrong.

And yes, I have worked a lot with bottled hydrogen, oxygen, helium and nitrogen.

I beg to differ;  O2 tanks can indeed go boom. And, as the tanks are under pressure, they are commonly big bomb-y booms. Not bottled - tanked.


Bottled liquefied gas is what it is called when you go to buy some.  And no matter what you guys think, oxygen alone can't burn.  I don't doubt that people who bring fire near oxygen bottles get blown up, but it's not because the "oxygen exploded".  Because it can't.
 
2013-08-21 01:17:19 PM

noitsnot: Kahabut: noitsnot: dj_spanmaster: devine: corq: DNRTFA, but numerous incidents in the Keys in dive season occur this way with scuba tanks left on boats as well. That first morning cigarette down at the dock can be a doozy...

SCUBA tanks leak flammable gas?

The oxygen, in high enough concentration. Though corq clearly doesn't live in the Keys, or he wouldn't have called it "dive season".

Would just make your cigarette burn brighter, but there's nothing present to explode.

I really hope you don't work with pressurized gas.  O2 is explosive in concentrations all by itself. Technically it's just flammable, but if you walk into a room full of pure O2 with an ignition source, you won't live long enough to appreciate the difference.

Also, the tanks are pressurized vessels, which are fully capable of exploding if they are heated by say... a fire.  Believe me when I tell you that you really really don't want to be anywhere near by if that happens.  The shockwave is bad, but the shrapnel is deadly.

More than a few boats have been blown to little pieces by nothing more than an open O2 tank and an ignition source.  Even more because a fire broke out and the tanks cooked off.

That is completely wrong.  Totally, completely wrong.

And yes, I have worked a lot with bottled hydrogen, oxygen, helium and nitrogen.


GAS: OXIDIZER. CONTACT WITH COMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL MAY CAUSE FIRE. CONTENTS UNDER PRESURE. Do not puncture or incinerate container. May cause severe frostbite. LIQUID: OXIDIZER. CONTACT WITH COMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL MAY CAUSE FIRE.

Extremely reactive or incompatible with the following materials: oxidizing materials, reducing materials and combustible materials.
 
2013-08-21 02:08:10 PM
i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-21 03:39:14 PM
KyngNothing: ...

Or maybe someone just didn't turn on the bilge fans when they first got on the boat... Little built up gasoline fumes would do that to you...

That would be my guess.  Maybe the oxygen helped but it didn't cause.
 
2013-08-21 05:15:33 PM
Kahabut:

...

GAS: OXIDIZER. CONTACT WITH COMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL MAY CAUSE FIRE. CONTENTS UNDER PRESSURE. Do not puncture or incinerate container. May cause severe frostbite. LIQUID: OXIDIZER. CONTACT WITH COMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL MAY CAUSE FIRE.

Extremely reactive or incompatible with the following materials: oxidizing materials, reducing materials and combustible materials.



That's the same thing I'm saying.  It's not combustible, nor explosive.  It's an oxidizer (oxidation was named for oxygen after all), and when it comes into contact with combustibles (fuel), you get fire.

It's the fire triangle: FUEL + OXIDIZER + HEAT = FIRE.  You need all three.  Just oxygen and a spark gets you nothing.
 
2013-08-21 07:53:31 PM
It's the fire triangle: FUEL + OXIDIZER + HEAT = FIRE.  You need all three.  Just oxygen and a spark gets you nothing.

Agreed, though I feel I should mention here that the pressure from the compressed oxygen itself can provide the ignition. See "regulator blow out," which is why you should always open the valve of your oxygen tank slowly, turn away form it, and make sure the regulator stays very clean (no oil, no dust).

/Tank currently sitting 4 feet away from me.
 
2013-08-22 09:18:19 AM

SoupJohnB: noitsnot: jscart: Why do so many people think O2 is flammable?
/it's an oxidizer
//not a fuel (unless it's liquid)

It's not a fuel EVER.

It's an accelerant, and only explosively dangerous while compressed.  Propane is a fuel.  I should know, because I sell propane, and propane accessories.

/it's pronounced "Proh-paine."


Hank, is there anything you don't know? You are definitely an Arlen outstanding citizen.
 
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