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(The New York Times)   Earlier NFL contracts didn't include boilerplate about using image/footage for NFL Productions "promotional" purposes. Whoops--that's a lawsuitin'   (nytimes.com) divider line 20
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2013-08-21 09:00:51 AM
I think there is a good argument that NFL film is documentary work.
 
2013-08-21 09:04:16 AM
another step toward to death of football
 
2013-08-21 09:19:51 AM

tennesseemike: another step toward to death of football


Football is barely watchable.  They run a play for 5 seconds then after the play they dance around like morons for 10 seconds then replay the play 3 times for another 20 seconds then for 15 seconds we watch the team break huddle and we wait for the next play.  Most of a football game is spent watching a bunch of millionaires awaiting court dates for felony charges mill about.  Soccer has more real action.The NFL should set to play clock to 25 seconds to keep the game moving.


The touch down à commercial à extra point kickà commercial à kick off and run backà commercial à next series of downs sequence is unwatchable too.
 
2013-08-21 09:27:56 AM

Muta: Soccer has more real action.


www.dibico.com.br

and goddamn you wanna talk about a boring sport
 
2013-08-21 09:36:30 AM
11 Minutes of Action

According to a Wall Street Journal study of four recent broadcasts, and similar estimates by researchers, the average amount of time the ball is in play on the field during an NFL game is about 11 minutes.

In other words, if you tally up everything that happens between the time the ball is snapped and the play is whistled dead by the officials, there's barely enough time to prepare a hard-boiled egg. In fact, the average telecast devotes 56% more time to showing replays
 
2013-08-21 09:39:03 AM
How Much Action Is There Really In An NFL Football Game?

So, during the two hours and 56 minutes the game took to complete, throughout the 60 minutes of regulation time, the ball was in only in play for 12 minutes and 8 seconds. The rest of the time, players were standing around, plays were being reviewed and I was being bombarded by a multitude of beer commercials and truck advertisements.
 
2013-08-21 09:45:24 AM
There's Not Much Football In Your Football

Out of the typical 2 hours and 54 minutes of the average NFL broadcast, a whole 11 minutes actually feature live game action. So next time you want to call out soccer or baseball fans for following a sport where nothing happens, you might want to tend to your own garden.


The lion's share of camera time, about 75 minutes worth, is devoted to players standing around on the field. Getting up after a tackle. Jogging back to the line of scrimmage (loping if you're Randy Moss). Huddling up before the next play. When you watch football, this is what you're mostly watching.


An unsurprising second is commercial breaks, making up about an hour of the broadcast. This might sound high, but just think of all the score-commercial-kickoff-commercial sequences, and we're thankful it's only an hour


So you get 11 minutes of action during a 174 minute broadcast.  11/174 = .063.  Only 6.32% of the game you're watching is the game.  The rest is filler.
 
2013-08-21 09:49:33 AM
I wonder if any of these ex players have used words like "Superbowl" or "Hall of Fame" or any other copyrighted phrase or acronym that the NFL could come back and say, "OK, we'll settle with you on your suit, and then see you in court next week for trademark violations for every time you went to some convention to sit at a table and sell your autographed 8x10."
 
2013-08-21 10:32:15 AM

Muta: There's Not Much Football In Your Football

Out of the typical 2 hours and 54 minutes of the average NFL broadcast, a whole 11 minutes actually feature live game action. So next time you want to call out soccer or baseball fans for following a sport where nothing happens, you might want to tend to your own garden.


The lion's share of camera time, about 75 minutes worth, is devoted to players standing around on the field. Getting up after a tackle. Jogging back to the line of scrimmage (loping if you're Randy Moss). Huddling up before the next play. When you watch football, this is what you're mostly watching.


An unsurprising second is commercial breaks, making up about an hour of the broadcast. This might sound high, but just think of all the score-commercial-kickoff-commercial sequences, and we're thankful it's only an hour

So you get 11 minutes of action during a 174 minute broadcast.  11/174 = .063.  Only 6.32% of the game you're watching is the game.  The rest is filler.


Dat action.
 
2013-08-21 10:37:21 AM
Football = money.

EVERYTHING on television = money.

Why are people so shocked that the bottom line IS the bottom line?
 
2013-08-21 10:40:04 AM

Serges: Muta: There's Not Much Football In Your Football

Out of the typical 2 hours and 54 minutes of the average NFL broadcast, a whole 11 minutes actually feature live game action. So next time you want to call out soccer or baseball fans for following a sport where nothing happens, you might want to tend to your own garden.


The lion's share of camera time, about 75 minutes worth, is devoted to players standing around on the field. Getting up after a tackle. Jogging back to the line of scrimmage (loping if you're Randy Moss). Huddling up before the next play. When you watch football, this is what you're mostly watching.


An unsurprising second is commercial breaks, making up about an hour of the broadcast. This might sound high, but just think of all the score-commercial-kickoff-commercial sequences, and we're thankful it's only an hour

So you get 11 minutes of action during a 174 minute broadcast.  11/174 = .063.  Only 6.32% of the game you're watching is the game.  The rest is filler.

Dat action.


Gah, gif too big.   http://lastangryfan.com/2013/06/neymars-flops-are-as-ridiculous-as-hi s -soccer-skills-gif/
 
2013-08-21 11:18:00 AM
Meh, When it added the provision in the 90's the NFL was aware of player publicity rights, it could have easy gotten the signatures at that time (or shortly thereafter)...that being said, if the NFL has been using a player's image for decades and the player doesn't object to the use, the player really shouldn't be allow to stand on the sideline, let the NFL dig its own hole, then profit from such silence.
 
2013-08-21 11:21:04 AM
To be fair there may only be 12 minutes of football in a game of american football, but at least you know when it's happening.  In soccer everyone runs around for hours kicking the ball and you get maybe a dozen good plays, but if you're not paying rapt attention you can miss them and they rarely show replays because the game doesn't stop to allow time for it.
 
2013-08-21 11:47:59 AM

FilmBELOH20: I wonder if any of these ex players have used words like "Superbowl" or "Hall of Fame" or any other copyrighted phrase or acronym that the NFL could come back and say, "OK, we'll settle with you on your suit, and then see you in court next week for trademark violations for every time you went to some convention to sit at a table and sell your autographed 8x10."


You're thinking of trademarks, and they don't quite work like that.
 
2013-08-21 12:38:28 PM
Football is stupid.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-21 01:08:35 PM

Muta: tennesseemike: another step toward to death of football

Football is barely watchable.  They run a play for 5 seconds then after the play they dance around like morons for 10 seconds then replay the play 3 times for another 20 seconds then for 15 seconds we watch the team break huddle and we wait for the next play.  Most of a football game is spent watching a bunch of millionaires awaiting court dates for felony charges mill about.  Soccer has more real action.The NFL should set to play clock to 25 seconds to keep the game moving.


The touch down à commercial à extra point kickà commercial à kick off and run backà commercial à next series of downs sequence is unwatchable too.


I hope the ex-players' legal team present a more compelling argument than your "soccer is better than football" equation. Really? Hey, guess what? Soccer and football are different sports. One is an apple, the other...an orange.

Here's an idea: If you hate football, avoid reading/commenting-on articles...about........football.

Ta DA!
 
2013-08-21 03:08:59 PM

AteMyBrain: Here's an idea: If you hate football, avoid reading/commenting-on articles...about........football.

Ta DA!


How will that make football less stupid?
 
2013-08-21 03:10:28 PM
The more money shared with the players the better.  I love me some football, but I hate the plutocracy of wealthy asshats that put on the show (Jerry Jones; Al Davis, Bob Kraft, etc.).  The players sacrifice their bodies and often their minds so that the suits can make the real money.  The players often come from humble backgrounds and have worked their asses off to become elite athletes, while the owners are almost uniformly born billionaires.  Why not give players residuals for using their name and likeness solely to earn more money for the billionaires?
 
2013-08-21 04:10:18 PM

WhyKnot: Meh, When it added the provision in the 90's the NFL was aware of player publicity rights, it could have easy gotten the signatures at that time (or shortly thereafter)...that being said, if the NFL has been using a player's image for decades and the player doesn't object to the use, the player really shouldn't be allow to stand on the sideline, let the NFL dig its own hole, then profit from such silence.


Yes they should.  Especially with an organization such as the NFL which has an insane amount of brand control and will sue a player into oblivion if they breech their contract in the slightest.  I'd wouldn't be shocked if the players aren't allowed to write NFL on their resume without paying a fee.

That's like saying workers who aren't being paid/breaked/etc properly by law and later realize it shouldn't "profit" (be compensated) from their silence.
 
2013-08-21 07:58:04 PM

Yojimbo - jango: To be fair there may only be 12 minutes of football in a game of american football, but at least you know when it's happening.  In soccer everyone runs around for hours kicking the ball and you get maybe a dozen good plays, but if you're not paying rapt attention you can miss them and they rarely show replays because the game doesn't stop to allow time for it.


Is your attention span really that short?
 
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