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2013-08-21 05:47:22 AM
2 votes:

Forsythe P. Jones: I worked in a Methodist church as a handyman for a while after I retired from Corporate Hell.
The backstabbing, skullduggery and gossiping there would rival or better any Fortune 500 company head office.


Goes on in EVERY church.  While doing some freelance work, I got an education in the definition of hypocrisy.  The amount of stuff I hear is mind-numbing.  But it is fun to watch how fast some people can get their church faces on when the subject of the current discussion walks in.  The number of people I can admire for living their beliefs, even when inconvenient, is now less than ten.
2013-08-21 04:54:37 AM
2 votes:
I worked in a Methodist church as a handyman for a while after I retired from Corporate Hell.
The backstabbing, skullduggery and gossiping there would rival or better any Fortune 500 company head office.
2013-08-21 01:30:24 PM
1 votes:

Kirzania: Gabrielmot: I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:

How did you manage to catch them?


The trick that some Cali news organization used was to mark things that would be replaced (like the oil filter) or put a small piece of tape or the like on the drain plug for whatever (oil, trans, power steering, radiator).
2013-08-21 12:05:10 PM
1 votes:
I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:

At a national chain like Jiffy Lube, there's going to be a huge variety in management and the level of service. However, according to, who claims to be a former manager, half of the services offered or charged for don't even get completed.

Suck it Jiffy Lube.
2013-08-21 09:19:21 AM
1 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: ReverendJasen: Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.

You know why they do that...liability

So blame farking lawyers and tort law before blaming the organization. Here locally the local Whole Foods donates its produce to the local zoo and shelters, however in order to avoid liability issues the zoo and shelter have to come pick the food up and its not technically donated. They sell it to them for pennies so that the onus is on the purchaser not the retailer.


Several local restaurants around me that gave unsold food to the homeless shelters were all warned recently that they'll lose their licenses if they don't stop the practice because the food is not in original containers. I think one of them did end up getting around the problem by selling their left over food for pennies, even though their insurance company warned them they needed to just stop the practice completely to stay away from future problems. At the social functions of all of the churches in the area, they cannot donate left over food items that have been removed from their containers in any way, so they usually have bread still in the package that people have to remove themselves to eat just so they have a way of passing along the extras and not trash it all. Legal liability problems just wreak havoc with good intent.
2013-08-21 08:38:39 AM
1 votes:

ReverendJasen: Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.


You know why they do that...liability

So blame farking lawyers and tort law before blaming the organization. Here locally the local Whole Foods donates its produce to the local zoo and shelters, however in order to avoid liability issues the zoo and shelter have to come pick the food up and its not technically donated. They sell it to them for pennies so that the onus is on the purchaser not the retailer.
2013-08-21 08:31:44 AM
1 votes:

From Reddit user


"I work on a farm. When they say you should wash your produce thoroughly at home, they're not joking."


I've never understood the "OMG!!" behind this....produce generally grows in dirt, is sprayed with chemicals, harvested with machines that depend on oil, grease, are made of metal (metal chips/filings) etc etc., processed on more machines, packed into crates, shipped in trucks that have shipped a whole plethora of different things in that trailer, to a store to sit on a dock, get shoved into a corner that most likely has at least a few hundred roaches, assorted bugs and vermin either currently passing through or will/have already been there. (rats/mice pee as they walk yanno) and unpacked and stocked by a clerk with a cold who doesn't wash his/her hands after using the bathroom.

Why the fark would anyone NOT wash produce?  And why would this be a surprising thing?
2013-08-21 08:29:18 AM
1 votes:

OhioUGrad: I'm Boo Berry and other crap because my things around don't won't work, so SURLY fark will! I think so!


Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point: don't smoke crack.
2013-08-21 08:08:45 AM
1 votes:
Oh, noes!

Hotels don't fess up their rates are negotiable? They're just trying to make MONEY?

The horror!
2013-08-21 07:54:23 AM
1 votes:

LemSkroob: Rand's lacy underwear: "Fine dining cook here. 30% of your meal is butter. That's why it's so good."

This. Most of the steaks you get when you dine out get a butter-bath before it hits your plate.

"oooh, so juicy!"


Maybe if you eat steaks at a place that specializes in deep frying entire onions and playing 10 year old pop music.

/Who the fark goes out to eat a steak?
2013-08-21 07:49:28 AM
1 votes:

wee: phrawgh: This story coming from AOL?

No.  It came from another, more dynamic, website where people submit things.  Fark just linked to the site that linked to the original in order to stay somewhat relevant, rather than link to the original site itself. Might be an ad revenue, traffic sharing deal with AOL. Who knows.  Would be kind weird if Fark linked directly to Reddit, though.  Amusing, actually. Like admitting defeat, or there abouts.

Hey, at least it's not another banal cracked.com "Top 7" paid-for link masquerading as an actual submission...




I'll bite.

Too much chaff and too easy to fall into an echo chamber.

On another note, yet you post here.
2013-08-21 07:35:43 AM
1 votes:

ReverendJimBobHammer: Ranger Rover: ReverendJimBobHammer: rustypouch: I suggest not ordering the clam chowder in restaurants.

I'm currently involved in a class action suit involving the chowder to urine ratio of the soup of a restaurant I used to work at so I'm getting a kick out of your reply.

Tyler D.

Okay, so I've always wondered about this. You hear all sorts of horror stories about the bodily fluids or other awful things that could be in things you order, anywhere from fine dining to McDonalds, and it's definitely scary. And, of course, that movie Waiting. But, then, on the other hand, I've heard that this happens a LOT less often than people think it does, or than wait staff likes to insinuate it does (and it makes sense that they would like this, given the fact that it understandably is one of the few cards up their sleeves that they have against arrogant, abusive customers). The lowdown that I got is that most managers want to make their ways up in the world and don't stand for this, so it happens a lot less often than the scared public might surmise. What's the truth? Anyone know? My best guess is that it varies so significantly from restaurant to restaurant and manager to manager that there's probably no way to really know.

/Worked at McDonald's from age 15-16.
/Was only a cashier because too young to handle the fryer, so didn't go back into the back too often, but never saw or heard anything amiss.

That was a line from the movie (or novel or both, I can't remember) "Fight Club" not a real life example. I've worked in a few restaurants and I've never seen or heard of purposely adulterated food going out. Oh sure we dropped shiat on the floor, picked it up and dropped it straight back on the plate and sent THAT out but we never actually farked with the customer's food or drink.


What you describe is exactly what you claim to have never done...
2013-08-21 06:25:36 AM
1 votes:
Internet service providers
"Fiber Internet Service Provider here - bandwidth is not a scarce commodity like they want you to think it is. It is all about profit margins and over subscribing the network."

User bigdonkey adds: "Most of the bottlenecks are the result of the ISPs not building out their local networks to meet demand."

Neither of these things are secret.
2013-08-21 06:10:13 AM
1 votes:

Forsythe P. Jones: I worked in a Methodist church as a handyman for a while after I retired from Corporate Hell.
The backstabbing, skullduggery and gossiping there would rival or better any Fortune 500 company head office.


Because religion is a business.
2013-08-21 03:45:52 AM
1 votes:

downstairs: Delivery
Via Reddit user JamesW89:
"I work for a UPS store. Here is a few things I have learned since working here...
 Writing fragile on your package means nothing.
 Your package WILL get thrown around, dropped, and beaten up; if it is breakable then according to our guidelines for properly packaged items it needs to withstand 1000lbs of pressure and a 4ft drop.
 UPS capital claims is terrible as well they will do whatever they can to not pay you the amount you insure your package for."

A few things with this, mostly anecdotal.  My UPS guy is very respectful, even as far as putting a plastic bag over our delivery if he has to throw it over the fence in the rain.

But most importantly, you're on the hook for how you package the stuff you send.  My mother in law sent us a bunch of dishes and assorted kitchen stuff.  She stuffed it in a box with no care for how it might travel.  Hint: if you're sending a bunch of porcelain dishes, buy a shiatton of bubble wrap.  Its on you, not UPS.


I'm fairly certain my local UPS guys are fine, especially since my neighbor runs the local office. The distribution centers, however... well let's just say that I'm pretty sure my first video card's shipping box was not damaged by Newegg, but somewhere along the way. Fortunately they honored the defective item for exchange, but overall the whole shebang cost me about $15 what with return shipping, no way to recoup that that I could find.... and another $10 shipping for the hard drive I had to return a week later.

/sigh
2013-08-21 02:33:51 AM
1 votes:
I worked for Airborne Express between 1985 and 1995 as a driver/manager.

We were in a big struggle with Fedex and UPS. I consider most of the decade I was there as living hell.

They hired subcontractors to deliver the areas, usually consisting of 2 or 3 cities. The contractors bid on the site. Then they had to buy the vans, have them painted in Airborne colors, apply stickers, be responsible for all maintenance, hire the drivers, buy the commercial insurance and often ran routes until they got enough staff where they could stop.

However, they had to follow Airborne rules, including keeping the vans in nearly pristine shape. All dents and scratches had to be fixed within days. The Company provided the uniforms. They shipped the freight down, at first, in a van that the subcontractor drove 45 miles to get and 45 miles to bring back. We met in a parking lot. At night, after running a route, usually over 150 miles, the subcontractor had to collect the outgoing freight by a certain time and drive it 45 miles back to the main base to deposit it on an Airborne Express jet. Then, he could go home.

Airborne moved us into an abandoned gas station -- except we couldn't use the buildings. Later, we were sent to the next city and took over an abandoned Fedex station. They decided to fly the freight in, so we were moved to what was left of a flight training center hanger/office, which was one stage away from being condemned.

The freight came in on small aircraft, like a Piper. The biggest one was a Beach Craft. I once had to jump start the twin engine Beach Craft with my own truck using a couple of jumper cables joined together. A different, smaller aircraft used to come in with one engine pouring out so much oil that the pilot had to clean the wing and top it off.

Airborne hired in different aircraft subcontractors. One flying a smaller twin engine plane lost part of his engine along the way and didn't notice until he landed.

We went through something like 6 different aircraft subcontractors.

We'd haul freight valued in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, and, on Saturday, store the Monday freight in a locked room with absolutely no security that a kid with a hammer could get in.

Drivers were pushed constantly for speed and harassed. We had short wave radios then, so you got to listen to the home base chewing out drivers for whatever errors they might have made. That included me, the manager. I was responsible for everything. So I got chewed out for others errors, plus I had to run a route and run the station.

That kinda undermined my authority.

When a subcontractor started making good money, after working his arse off, Airborne found reasons to change his contract, so he made less profit but delivered more freight. If he fussed too much, they put his contract up for bids and hired in a new one. He wound up having to eat the cost of the vans, had to pay his drivers, and the new guy coming in would usually keep the current staff, but reduce their pay. None ever raised it.

We were taught to lie on our manifests to make it look like we were doing better than we were, but if we got caught, it was all our fault. Even when we moved into computers, we were taught how to rig the scanners to report false times.

In my area, we went through over 100 drivers. The pressure was too hard. Most tried to get in with Fedex, until Airborne made a deal with them to not hire each others drivers for one year after they quit. Accidents were so frequent that we had to have a repair shop selected to constantly fix the vans.

One subcontractor bought us the Ford Cargo Van, which was the biggest piece of shiat ever. The front end never stayed in alignment, which tore up tires. We were forever going into the shop to get it aligned until the subcontractor biatched. Then we stopped -- and shredded tires until the sub contractor threatened to take the new tires out of our pay. So we rotated the tires, until he biatched about the expense and down time.

Any damage done to the vans that you could not prove you did not do, came out of your pay. We had to work half a day on Saturdays, and he cut our pay. You were pushed until you failed, and pushed even more before Airborne would agree to allowing another route to be made and another driver hired.

If you got a speeding ticket, you had to pay for it and pay for the class to get it off your record -- about $150 on top of the fine. If not, then the subcontractor would fire you because his insurance carrier would up his rates. Yet you had to speed to get done on time.

See, Fedex and UPS had delivery drivers, and they had other drivers who would start making customer pickups as the delivery driver was still working. We had to deliver and then pickup. We wound up back tracking a lot.

There were no exceptions for loss of time due to traffic and most weather. A driver got stuck on a muddy road after a major storm and I got biatched out because I allowed him to be towed out. My boss wanted him to have to pay the tow charge. He also wanted me, after delivering my route, to run 35 miles down and get his freight and finish his route in the two hours we had left, and if I missed the outgoing freight, I had to drive 40 miles to the main base in time to meet the jet.

One day I drove 350 miles. Most of it with my foot in the carburetor.

Drivers from time to time, would just dump freight instead of driving 20 miles one way to deliver a package which did not require a signature. They'd claim they left it at the door, when they actually tossed it in a ditch. I had to investigate.

The cute part was, if you angered Airborne, they could not fire you. You worked for the subcontractor. However, you could be banned from being on Airborne property or handling Airborne freight, which eliminated the subcontractor's need for you. He'd have no option but to let you go.

The kicker was, you could not collect unemployment benefits. Airborne was not your employer so was not responsible. Your subcontractor was not responsible since his employer, Airborne, had forbid you to handle any freight.

You got zilch.

You could also get in trouble for being nice to drivers of the other courier companies. We ignored that because, as a rule, they were nice to us and helpful. I once spent about 3/4 of an hour trying to get a Fedex truck unstuck from a construction site (they used special, re-groovable tires to save costs but they sucked for traction). Had my boss found out, I could have been fired.

Freight was not handled well by pi$$ed off, harassed drivers. Sometimes packages were tossed over gates, marked LAFD (left at front door) for the customer to find a few days later. Like, after a rain storm. Some were so badly handled that we could hear broken glass rattle inside. Some drivers thought it funny to slip a piece of their freight into someone else's truck -- knowing that we had a rule if you wound up with the wrong freight, you had to deliver it anyhow or at least drive miles out of your way to meet the proper driver and turn it over to him. Some snuck freight off your truck before you scanned it in, and you'd get harassed as the Company demanded to know where the package was.

The next day, it would 'appear' mysteriously as you loaded your trucks.

The a/c's on the vans mainly burned out within the first year. In Florida summers, you need a/c. The subcontractor biatched so much about the cost to have them replaced that I bought the blowers with petty cash and installed them myself on my own time.

The subcontractor figured that since I was manager, I was expected to do that with no pay.

I had one delivery that was 10 miles away from my area. I blasted down the highway to reach it -- a big citrus grove. Then I had to drive 5 miles down a crappy dirt road that turned into slush in the rain to get to the offices. I took that dirt road at 80 mph. During the rainy season, the van sunk into the mud up to the hub caps. It would delay me up to 30 minutes and I'd get biatched at for such a long gap in my manifest.

In 10 years I paid several hundred dollars in tickets, had 7 accidents -- two of which knocked me off the road, had to pay for two mysterious dents in my van to the tune of $500. (My boss agreed to reimburse me half of one if I got it fixed at my own cost before a company inspection. I did and he didn't.)

You couldn't drink the tap water at the station because it was foul. The back rooms, unused, leaked like a waterfall with every major rain storm. Water poured out of the active electrical sockets.

Because the Company was so cheap with petty cash, I wound up going into the rotten section and snatching fluorescent light tubes to replace those in our office that burned out.

During my time there I went through three subcontractors.

We got bonuses for nearly dying out there -- but never more than $100.

Airborne Express went belly up a couple of years after I left. DHL took over and proved no better with employees than Airborne. Worse, really. They required their drivers to drive vans with no a/c to save gas.

One previous subcontractor out of Conyers, Georgia, took the area from a nice subcontractor by being an ex-Airborne executive and having pull enough to find out the subcontractors bid when the contract came up for renewal. He under bid by one cent and got the contract. (One cent per package.) He sent down his own manager, reduced me to assistant manager and I discovered that the new manager was a bipolar depressive, who had deliberately gone off his medication which made him erratic and hard to work with.

Oh, yeah. The District Manager in Orlando was caught stealing computers off the big rig that delivered freight to the station (before they got in the jet). He made a deal with the driver and sold them on the side.

I'm in no hurry to be a courier again.
2013-08-21 01:18:27 AM
1 votes:
I'm always torn between wanting to see the kitchen and not wanting to see the kitchen.
2013-08-21 12:52:44 AM
1 votes:
I was not, in the least, surprised at the ageism in the tech industry.
2013-08-21 12:45:13 AM
1 votes:
Reddit: Your Source for News, So We Don't Have to Subscribe to the AP Wire.
2013-08-21 12:25:10 AM
1 votes:
Delivery
Via Reddit user JamesW89:
"I work for a UPS store. Here is a few things I have learned since working here...
 Writing fragile on your package means nothing.
 Your package WILL get thrown around, dropped, and beaten up; if it is breakable then according to our guidelines for properly packaged items it needs to withstand 1000lbs of pressure and a 4ft drop.
 UPS capital claims is terrible as well they will do whatever they can to not pay you the amount you insure your package for."


A few things with this, mostly anecdotal.  My UPS guy is very respectful, even as far as putting a plastic bag over our delivery if he has to throw it over the fence in the rain.

But most importantly, you're on the hook for how you package the stuff you send.  My mother in law sent us a bunch of dishes and assorted kitchen stuff.  She stuffed it in a box with no care for how it might travel.  Hint: if you're sending a bunch of porcelain dishes, buy a shiatton of bubble wrap.  Its on you, not UPS.
 
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