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2013-08-21 07:54:23 AM

LemSkroob: Rand's lacy underwear: "Fine dining cook here. 30% of your meal is butter. That's why it's so good."

This. Most of the steaks you get when you dine out get a butter-bath before it hits your plate.

"oooh, so juicy!"


Maybe if you eat steaks at a place that specializes in deep frying entire onions and playing 10 year old pop music.

/Who the fark goes out to eat a steak?
 
2013-08-21 08:04:37 AM

BeesNuts: Who the fark goes out to eat a steak?




People that go out to eat pasta.
 
2013-08-21 08:08:45 AM
Oh, noes!

Hotels don't fess up their rates are negotiable? They're just trying to make MONEY?

The horror!
 
2013-08-21 08:20:05 AM

Gene Masseth Jr.: I don't understand the book thing.  Throwing them away and losing the revenue you would if you sold them is the same as giving them away to someone/place that would put them to actual use.  So why throw them away?  Box them up and donate them.  Either way you're rid of them but at least this way they're being put to good use.


Thrift/donation charity stores are worse.  The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out.  Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it.  Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.
 
2013-08-21 08:20:18 AM
Nothing from that article is new or interesting, and I question how many of the comments are true stories. Overall, meh on the whole link.
 
2013-08-21 08:24:23 AM

Rik01: DHL took over and proved no better with employees than Airborne. Worse, really. They required their drivers to drive vans with no a/c to save gas.


Two things.

1.  I have never gotten a package delivered by DHL that didn't look like a cardboard accordion.  But they appear to compensate by putting things like... RAM... in a 5x6x8" box completely filled with bags of air and bubble wrap.

2.  westbound and down!  eighteen wheels a-rollin, we're gonna do what they say can't be done!
 
2013-08-21 08:29:18 AM

OhioUGrad: I'm Boo Berry and other crap because my things around don't won't work, so SURLY fark will! I think so!


Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point: don't smoke crack.
 
2013-08-21 08:31:44 AM

From Reddit user


"I work on a farm. When they say you should wash your produce thoroughly at home, they're not joking."


I've never understood the "OMG!!" behind this....produce generally grows in dirt, is sprayed with chemicals, harvested with machines that depend on oil, grease, are made of metal (metal chips/filings) etc etc., processed on more machines, packed into crates, shipped in trucks that have shipped a whole plethora of different things in that trailer, to a store to sit on a dock, get shoved into a corner that most likely has at least a few hundred roaches, assorted bugs and vermin either currently passing through or will/have already been there. (rats/mice pee as they walk yanno) and unpacked and stocked by a clerk with a cold who doesn't wash his/her hands after using the bathroom.

Why the fark would anyone NOT wash produce?  And why would this be a surprising thing?
 
2013-08-21 08:36:54 AM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: From Reddit user


"I work on a farm. When they say you should wash your produce thoroughly at home, they're not joking."


I've never understood the "OMG!!" behind this....produce generally grows in dirt, is sprayed with chemicals, harvested with machines that depend on oil, grease, are made of metal (metal chips/filings) etc etc., processed on more machines, packed into crates, shipped in trucks that have shipped a whole plethora of different things in that trailer, to a store to sit on a dock, get shoved into a corner that most likely has at least a few hundred roaches, assorted bugs and vermin either currently passing through or will/have already been there. (rats/mice pee as they walk yanno) and unpacked and stocked by a clerk with a cold who doesn't wash his/her hands after using the bathroom.

Why the fark would anyone NOT wash produce?  And why would this be a surprising thing?


Cause God made dirt and dirt don't hurt, so put it in your mouth and make it work.
 
2013-08-21 08:38:39 AM

ReverendJasen: Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.


You know why they do that...liability

So blame farking lawyers and tort law before blaming the organization. Here locally the local Whole Foods donates its produce to the local zoo and shelters, however in order to avoid liability issues the zoo and shelter have to come pick the food up and its not technically donated. They sell it to them for pennies so that the onus is on the purchaser not the retailer.
 
2013-08-21 08:44:28 AM

ongbok: Satan's Bunny Slippers: From Reddit user


"I work on a farm. When they say you should wash your produce thoroughly at home, they're not joking."


I've never understood the "OMG!!" behind this....produce generally grows in dirt, is sprayed with chemicals, harvested with machines that depend on oil, grease, are made of metal (metal chips/filings) etc etc., processed on more machines, packed into crates, shipped in trucks that have shipped a whole plethora of different things in that trailer, to a store to sit on a dock, get shoved into a corner that most likely has at least a few hundred roaches, assorted bugs and vermin either currently passing through or will/have already been there. (rats/mice pee as they walk yanno) and unpacked and stocked by a clerk with a cold who doesn't wash his/her hands after using the bathroom.

Why the fark would anyone NOT wash produce?  And why would this be a surprising thing?

Cause God made dirt and dirt don't hurt, so put it in your mouth and make it work.


Heh.  I don't know why, but that line reminds me of my BIL's sign on the front corner of his hog farm, "Ron sez put a lil pork on your fork tonight!"

/yes it does sound oddly perverted
//it's been there so long it's a landmark for directions
///hog farm for 65+ years
 
2013-08-21 08:56:18 AM

Lernaeus: Oh, noes!

Hotels don't fess up their rates are negotiable? They're just trying to make MONEY?

The horror!




Shut up!

You farkers always ruining a good thing.

/truckers rate please
 
2013-08-21 09:19:21 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: ReverendJasen: Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.

You know why they do that...liability

So blame farking lawyers and tort law before blaming the organization. Here locally the local Whole Foods donates its produce to the local zoo and shelters, however in order to avoid liability issues the zoo and shelter have to come pick the food up and its not technically donated. They sell it to them for pennies so that the onus is on the purchaser not the retailer.


Several local restaurants around me that gave unsold food to the homeless shelters were all warned recently that they'll lose their licenses if they don't stop the practice because the food is not in original containers. I think one of them did end up getting around the problem by selling their left over food for pennies, even though their insurance company warned them they needed to just stop the practice completely to stay away from future problems. At the social functions of all of the churches in the area, they cannot donate left over food items that have been removed from their containers in any way, so they usually have bread still in the package that people have to remove themselves to eat just so they have a way of passing along the extras and not trash it all. Legal liability problems just wreak havoc with good intent.
 
2013-08-21 09:21:41 AM
When did regurgitating a Reddit thread become news?
 
2013-08-21 09:30:59 AM

ReverendJasen: Gene Masseth Jr.: I don't understand the book thing. Throwing them away and losing the revenue you would if you sold them is the same as giving them away to someone/place that would put them to actual use. So why throw them away? Box them up and donate them. Either way you're rid of them but at least this way they're being put to good use.
Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.


I feel like this is what's wrong with the world. I don't know what homeless person is going to want a trashy romance novel but tearing up kids' books? NO. You send those to the schools wherever that can't afford basic school supplies, forget books. You tell an employee to deliver them so you know they get there. Evenly distribute them. I'm sure someone would eventually take advantage of this, which is probably why they don't do it but for the love of God, don't rip up books. What is this? Fahrenheit 451?

www.teenwritersbloc.com
I don't want to know about charities breaking or tearing sht up so they can't be donated to someone else. The church thing makes my blood boil.
 
2013-08-21 09:33:12 AM
Back in the late 1980's I worked as the maintenace supt for a local nursing home. Two things I saw resound with me to this day: people were paying about $3000/month to live there yet the kitchen was allotted $3/person/day to feed them. Number 2 was the amount of CYA involved. After a summer storm blew out 1/3 of the room air conditioning units, the main office did not want to repair them. My job was to "keep the people/families happy" by moving working units from the vegetative rooms to the rooms where people would complain.
It was an interesting place to work, to say the least. Occsionally the nurses would slip me high powered drugs meant for the patien.
 
2013-08-21 09:36:32 AM

pkellmey: IdBeCrazyIf: ReverendJasen: Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.

You know why they do that...liability

So blame farking lawyers and tort law before blaming the organization. Here locally the local Whole Foods donates its produce to the local zoo and shelters, however in order to avoid liability issues the zoo and shelter have to come pick the food up and its not technically donated. They sell it to them for pennies so that the onus is on the purchaser not the retailer.

Several local restaurants around me that gave unsold food to the homeless shelters were all warned recently that they'll lose their licenses if they don't stop the practice because the food is not in original containers. I think one of them did end up getting around the problem by selling their left over food for pennies, even though their insurance company warned them they needed to just stop the practice completely to stay away from future problems. At the social functions of all of the churches in the area, they cannot donate left over food items that have been removed from their containers in any way, so they usually have bread still in the package that people have to remove themselves to eat just so they have a way of passing along the extras and not trash it all. Legal liability problems just wreak havoc with good intent.




Because there are to many morans with good intent.
 
2013-08-21 09:39:14 AM

Kirzania: ReverendJasen: Gene Masseth Jr.: I don't understand the book thing. Throwing them away and losing the revenue you would if you sold them is the same as giving them away to someone/place that would put them to actual use. So why throw them away? Box them up and donate them. Either way you're rid of them but at least this way they're being put to good use.
Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.

I feel like this is what's wrong with the world. I don't know what homeless person is going to want a trashy romance novel but tearing up kids' books? NO. You send those to the schools wherever that can't afford basic school supplies, forget books. You tell an employee to deliver them so you know they get there. Evenly distribute them. I'm sure someone would eventually take advantage of this, which is probably why they don't do it but for the love of God, don't rip up books. What is this? Fahrenheit 451?

I don't want to know about charities breaking or tearing sht up so they can't be donated to someone else. The church thing makes my blood boil.


Some big book stores have contracts about in what manner some books can be distributed. Didn't we have a story about Barnes and Nobles being threatened with breach of contract for trying to give away free Harry Potter books? (That is probably not the case for all book categories, though.)
 
2013-08-21 09:47:02 AM
I work for an environmental consulting firm. We have clients that are Fortune 500 huge and clients that are Mom n' Pop. Many of our clients want to do the right thing (though they may complain loudly about the expense). There are some out there that actually say, "To hell with safety and the environment." but they are few and far between.

Most of the health, safety, and environmental problems that come up stem from the fact that every company is cutting safety and environmental staff. I can point to a client that has dozens of factories, hundred of sites and has 2 people on staff to handle all of their environmental concerns. Most of the time, the plant manager is asked to do double or triple duty when it comes to these things and then things get missed, accidents happen, waste is sent to a bad place, or someone gets hurt.

What's just as bad though is when corporate will recognize that they need staff on hand but will hire the most junior people they can find. This is the kind of industry where experience is far more needed than education.
 
2013-08-21 10:10:51 AM

Gene Masseth Jr.: I don't understand the book thing.  Throwing them away and losing the revenue you would if you sold them is the same as giving them away to someone/place that would put them to actual use.  So why throw them away?  Box them up and donate them.  Either way you're rid of them but at least this way they're being put to good use.


It's a brand management thing. If you're handing out shiattons of books for free, it looks like nobody wants to buy your books.
 
2013-08-21 10:22:29 AM

squidgod2000: If you're handing out shiattons of books for free, it looks like nobody wants to buy your books.


Do you really need to let people know, though? I'm quite certain you could hide this if you really wanted to. On the other hand, I feel like if a "giant" (or "former giant" is probably a better term now) like B&N were to say "LOOK at the AMAZING charity we do by donating X amount of children's books to schools in NY, VA, PA, CA, AL, etc, etc, etc every year" that this could be good marketing. I know Target is huge on the amount of money they donate to local schools. At the front of the store, there's usually a board with the schools' names and the amount donated MTD/YTD. I'm positive there would be some sort of kick-back from the value donated too.
 
2013-08-21 10:27:20 AM
The bacteria on produce that have caused so many outbreaks of illnesses like the bagged lettuce one come from Mexicans shiatting on your food. Take a dump on a head of lettuce and then wash it until you feel comfortable eating it with a little ranch dressing. Of course the media never discuss the reason for the outbreaks and people just assume it's normal dirt bacteria.
 
2013-08-21 10:38:13 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: ReverendJasen: Thrift/donation charity stores are worse. The donated items they don't want or can't sell get put into a dumpster with signs warning people to stay out. Sometimes they purposely damage everything before they toss it just so no one will want it. Things like blankets, which could be re-donated to homeless shelters or something, locked in a dumpster by a farking church charity.

You know why they do that...liability

So blame farking lawyers and tort law before blaming the organization. Here locally the local Whole Foods donates its produce to the local zoo and shelters, however in order to avoid liability issues the zoo and shelter have to come pick the food up and its not technically donated. They sell it to them for pennies so that the onus is on the purchaser not the retailer.


I work at a nonprofit donation store.  Ya we throw a lot of stuff out that might be useable but its for reasons such as listed above.  We do give the blankets that are no good to the local animal shelter.  But stuff such as kids bike helmets and walkers/canes/etc we throw out cause we are not going take the risk of there being something wrong we can't see and get sued for it.  Same thing with anything you put a baby in(cribs/walkers/swings).  Other things such as porn movies and books we don't put out even though we have a case up at the regs for things that we don't want out in the open cause we get crap form parents that don't want the risk of their kids seeing it.  Other things it for health reason or legal reasons.
 
2013-08-21 10:54:43 AM

Snort: When did regurgitating a Reddit thread become news?


it's not news.... it's Fark.com
 
2013-08-21 11:09:25 AM

Rik01: I worked for Airborne Express between 1985 and 1995 as a driver/manager...


Fascinating read! Thanks for the story.
 
2013-08-21 11:33:24 AM
Satan's Bunny Slippers:

Cause God made dirt and dirt don't hurt, so put it in your mouth and make it work.

Heh.  I don't know why, but that line reminds me of my BIL's sign on the front corner of his hog farm, "Ron sez put a lil pork on your fork tonight!"

/yes it does sound oddly perverted
//it's been there so long it's a landmark for directions
///hog farm for 65+ years


Like this?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/shocking-xray-do ct ors-remove-fork-from-penis-of-70yearold-australian-man-8774501.html
 
2013-08-21 11:40:15 AM

ReverendJimBobHammer: Ranger Rover: ReverendJimBobHammer: rustypouch: I suggest not ordering the clam chowder in restaurants.

I'm currently involved in a class action suit involving the chowder to urine ratio of the soup of a restaurant I used to work at so I'm getting a kick out of your reply.

Tyler D.

Okay, so I've always wondered about this. You hear all sorts of horror stories about the bodily fluids or other awful things that could be in things you order, anywhere from fine dining to McDonalds, and it's definitely scary. And, of course, that movie Waiting. But, then, on the other hand, I've heard that this happens a LOT less often than people think it does, or than wait staff likes to insinuate it does (and it makes sense that they would like this, given the fact that it understandably is one of the few cards up their sleeves that they have against arrogant, abusive customers). The lowdown that I got is that most managers want to make their ways up in the world and don't stand for this, so it happens a lot less often than the scared public might surmise. What's the truth? Anyone know? My best guess is that it varies so significantly from restaurant to restaurant and manager to manager that there's probably no way to really know.

/Worked at McDonald's from age 15-16.
/Was only a cashier because too young to handle the fryer, so didn't go back into the back too often, but never saw or heard anything amiss.

That was a line from the movie (or novel or both, I can't remember) "Fight Club" not a real life example. I've worked in a few restaurants and I've never seen or heard of purposely adulterated food going out. Oh sure we dropped shiat on the floor, picked it up and dropped it straight back on the plate and sent THAT out but we never actually farked with the customer's food or drink.


Of course Fight Club! How could I have missed that, even with the the Tyler D. and everything. Yes, this was my suspicion, and someone else a few lines down basically echoes the same thing. I really think the most important variable is the store manager. Teenagers will do stupid stuff and think it's funny. But you get a sharp-witted, mid-twenties manager with an eye on corporate running the ship (and does this happen anymore?), then I would imagine he or she finds ways to keep the giggling 16-year-olds in line.
 
2013-08-21 11:40:47 AM

ampoliros: I work for an environmental consulting firm...


I just had to say one thing this. There's a lot of crapping on lawyers in the thread about liability and torts getting "in the way" of charitable acts, but those liability laws exist for a reason. "Second-hand" food, so to speak, for example cannot necessarily come with a guarantee of safety and proper handling, and improperly prepared or kept food can cause a lot more harm than help. The people who care and know what they're doing are perfectly capable of working around liability, it serves as a barrier for people with better intentions than know-how.

If you want to lawyer-bash, right there -- environmental law -- is where you want to do it. A lot of to-do is made about personal injury, but environmental lawyers in my experience are flatly the absolute worst in a profession that is a veritable cesspool of ego and greed.

Find a environmental issue, and if you can't find one trump it up, and scare the rubes into joining a class-action. Threaten an injunction to get the corporation in question to the negotiating table, then urge the plaintiffs to settle out of court where the means of arbitration, exposure to the media, and communication with plaintiffs can all be controlled. Cherry-pick scientific studies that are either indirectly-related, found correlative evidence, are decades-old and preempted by newer studies, or even outright discredited to make your case. Negotiate a settlement, with an award that is usually much less than what it would cost the company to substantively change policy and almost  always comes with a gag order on the plaintiffs, and leave plaintiffs with a trivial portion of the settlement.

Only work with environmentalist non-profs to find cases, and to lobby for policy that really only improves the ability to sue, get injunctions, and keep the gravy train going instead of actually regulating or reforming corporations and industries.It's a damn racket. I know attorneys who went to law school wanting to do environmental law, but changed to sub-fields like personal injury or corporate law becausethey were more ethical.
 
2013-08-21 11:53:37 AM

Ranger Rover: ReverendJimBobHammer: Ranger Rover: ReverendJimBobHammer: rustypouch: I suggest not ordering the clam chowder in restaurants.

I'm currently involved in a class action suit involving the chowder to urine ratio of the soup of a restaurant I used to work at so I'm getting a kick out of your reply.

Tyler D.

Okay, so I've always wondered about this. You hear all sorts of horror stories about the bodily fluids or other awful things that could be in things you order, anywhere from fine dining to McDonalds, and it's definitely scary. And, of course, that movie Waiting. But, then, on the other hand, I've heard that this happens a LOT less often than people think it does, or than wait staff likes to insinuate it does (and it makes sense that they would like this, given the fact that it understandably is one of the few cards up their sleeves that they have against arrogant, abusive customers). The lowdown that I got is that most managers want to make their ways up in the world and don't stand for this, so it happens a lot less often than the scared public might surmise. What's the truth? Anyone know? My best guess is that it varies so significantly from restaurant to restaurant and manager to manager that there's probably no way to really know.

/Worked at McDonald's from age 15-16.
/Was only a cashier because too young to handle the fryer, so didn't go back into the back too often, but never saw or heard anything amiss.

That was a line from the movie (or novel or both, I can't remember) "Fight Club" not a real life example. I've worked in a few restaurants and I've never seen or heard of purposely adulterated food going out. Oh sure we dropped shiat on the floor, picked it up and dropped it straight back on the plate and sent THAT out but we never actually farked with the customer's food or drink.

Of course Fight Club! How could I have missed that, even with the the Tyler D. and everything. Yes, this was my suspicion, and someone else a few lines down basically echoes th ...




It's propaganda from the tipping cartel.
 
2013-08-21 12:05:10 PM
I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:

At a national chain like Jiffy Lube, there's going to be a huge variety in management and the level of service. However, according to, who claims to be a former manager, half of the services offered or charged for don't even get completed.

Suck it Jiffy Lube.
 
2013-08-21 12:18:19 PM

doublesecretprobation: Snort: When did regurgitating a Reddit thread become news?

it's not news.... it's Fark.com


It still managed to make it at whatever that AOL thing is.
 
2013-08-21 12:35:46 PM

Gabrielmot: I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:


How did you manage to catch them?
 
2013-08-21 01:30:24 PM

Kirzania: Gabrielmot: I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:

How did you manage to catch them?


The trick that some Cali news organization used was to mark things that would be replaced (like the oil filter) or put a small piece of tape or the like on the drain plug for whatever (oil, trans, power steering, radiator).
 
2013-08-21 01:32:48 PM

StoPPeRmobile: It's propaganda from the tipping cartel.


What a great way to describe them. Filing that away. I'm just lying back and waiting for the time, oh six months from now if this keeps progressing the way that it does, when I'll start being told that fifty percent is now "standard" and that I "can't afford to eat out" and should stay home unless I tip half my bill.

/Is there some sort of reductio ad tipping formula for Fark threads?
 
2013-08-21 01:35:06 PM
I worked for an oil change company called Grease Monkey during college.  The owner of our store told us to "just throw all the oil bottles we had around the shop into one of the large oil tanks in the basement!"  These oil tanks are supposed to have dedicated oil in them such as Tank #1 has ONLY Valvoline 10w-30, Tank #2 has Mobil 5w-30, etc.  So people that bring their cars in for service thinking they're getting a good quality oil at a recommended oil viscosity are in fact getting a massive amount of mixed brands, viscosity levels, synthetic, non-synthetic, old, new, etc.  I felt bad a called one the oil distributor and I don't think they even gave a shiat!  Bunch of losers!
 
2013-08-21 02:53:08 PM
Amazing how you can now create "news" sources by reposting snippets of commentary from Reddit without any possible way of confirming anything that any of those people are saying about their various businesses since they're all behind screen names.
I may use my journalism diploma for origami if this kind of thing keeps up.
 
2013-08-21 02:53:13 PM

wax66: OhioUGrad: I'm Boo Berry and other crap because my things around don't won't work, so SURLY fark will! I think so!

Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point: don't smoke crack.


But it's enjoyable!
 
2013-08-21 03:09:47 PM
Restaurant experience - nothing ever evil to any customer, even assholes or lazy parents with kids running wild, but if food fell on the floor the cooks would put it back on the plate.

Equipment leasing - The equipment leasing company isn't here to help you or save you from your financial needs, especially if you are a small business.  It's there to try to stick you with a financial time-bomb that will explode at the end of the lease and possibly bankrupt you... all for profit in a complicated contract.  Having a team of lawyers look at the contract always got a good laugh as they would only change and add words which would never impact the profit or the "you are screwed if you sign this" sections.  Lawyers would add additional opportunities for "ok we will add the addendum you requested, but in return we need to charge x more".  A single *smart* accountant (or more) with an analytical eye was the best protection for small and big businesses.
 
2013-08-21 03:17:27 PM

Kirzania: Gabrielmot: I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:

How did you manage to catch them?


I have done what wax66 said and have caught garages doing things like that.  It has saved me alot of money and gotten me free work.

I always mark what is supposed to be replaced.  I often ask for the part back.  I also always leave about $1 in quarters in plain view somewhere to see if it's there when I get the car back, that there is the litmus test.

There is something so satisfying in telling a supervisor that you purposely left change for that reason and that it was gone when you got the car back.  You just see their face drop.
 
2013-08-21 03:30:26 PM

Ranger Rover: ReverendJimBobHammer: rustypouch: I suggest not ordering the clam chowder in restaurants.

I'm currently involved in a class action suit involving the chowder to urine ratio of the soup of a restaurant I used to work at so I'm getting a kick out of your reply.

Tyler D.

Okay, so I've always wondered about this. You hear all sorts of horror stories about the bodily fluids or other awful things that could be in things you order, anywhere from fine dining to McDonalds, and it's definitely scary. And, of course, that movie Waiting. But, then, on the other hand, I've heard that this happens a LOT less often than people think it does, or than wait staff likes to insinuate it does (and it makes sense that they would like this, given the fact that it understandably is one of the few cards up their sleeves that they have against arrogant, abusive customers). The lowdown that I got is that most managers want to make their ways up in the world and don't stand for this, so it happens a lot less often than the scared public might surmise. What's the truth? Anyone know? My best guess is that it varies so significantly from restaurant to restaurant and manager to manager that there's probably no way to really know.

/Worked at McDonald's from age 15-16.
/Was only a cashier because too young to handle the fryer, so didn't go back into the back too often, but never saw or heard anything amiss.


I worked in several kitchens and bars in my younger days, I ran a kitchen for one of the largest steakhouse chains in the US for 4 years.  *Never* did I see anyone's food messed with.

*The only thing I can think of is once an order came in for a well done 9 oz filet with specific instruction to NOT butterfly the cut.  My grill guy knew this was gonna be an issue but he searched for and chose the only piece of filet he might be able to do it with.  He cooked it, I checked it...seemed good.  Well it was returned by the custy as "undercooked" (which with this crew we never had returned dishes).  It wasn't...anymore cooked and it would be shoe leather. The grill guy was angry but put it back on for 3 mins on each side and under a steak weight...sent back out...

...it came back STILL " too rare" for the person.  At this point my grill guy had lost it (it was a tough day-weekend, dinner rush with a country music concert going on across the street, which means a 2 hour wait and well done T-bones for everyone!  *ugh*).  He snatched that meat off the plate (wearing gloves) before I could get to it and he just rung it out with his hands to squeeze every ounce of "blood" (juice) out of it.  He slapped it back on the plate and threw it at the server.

...server came back "She said it tastes great!"

He was fired that night.
 
2013-08-21 03:43:25 PM

Boo_Guy: Did they get any Taco Bell employees on there?

Apparently the "meat" comes in plastic bags that are heated up using hot water,  sometimes the bags break open,  and they don't stop to clean it out or drain it.

/thats what an employee told me,  she refused to eat anything from there.
//I don't care,  I still eat it.
///floating fake meat



 Applebees, Olive Garden and I believe Chili's is bad for it as well....but it is a very common practice among large chains.  They do it so they can offer a consistent product> i.e they want a person to be able to eat the meal in LA and in New York and have it taste exactly the same.

A friend of mine's family owns a local food distributing company and they provide many of the chain restaurants with the pre-cooked food items like mashed potatoes.  When we were younger we would throw parties or cookouts and he would often grab some stuff from his company for sides and it would be hilarious to hear people make comments like "These taste like applebees' mashed potatoes"...and we'd be like "yeah, cuz we cut them outta the same bag they do."

When I worked at Outback I was very surprised (and pleased) to see that pretty much everything was made from scratch there in the restaurant- salad dressings, croutons, soups, mashed potatoes, fries...everything.  The only thing I can recall being prepackaged was their spice mixes and desserts.  Just big bags of "chicken spices", "Steak Spices"," Fish spices"  and man those were frickin good and we never could *quite* pin down those recipes.  I don't know if they still do this or not.
 
2013-08-21 04:20:59 PM

Gabrielmot: I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:

At a national chain like Jiffy Lube, there's going to be a huge variety in management and the level of service. However, according to, who claims to be a former manager, half of the services offered or charged for don't even get completed.

Suck it Jiffy Lube.


Jiffy Lube is terrible. I shouldn't have to go behind what's supposed to be a professional company and check someone's work like it was grade school or something. I used to go there years and years ago before I knew better. They kept 'forgetting' things though. Sometimes they'd forget to tighten something back down or properly reattach it. Once I found they hadn't changed the filters even though they'd charged me for it. Stopped going after that.
 
2013-08-21 09:28:49 PM
 

MechaPyx: Jiffy Lube is terrible. I shouldn't have to go behind what's supposed to be a professional company and check someone's work like it was grade school or something. I used to go there years and years ago before I knew better. They kept 'forgetting' things though. Sometimes they'd forget to tighten something back down or properly reattach it. Once I found they hadn't changed the filters even though they'd charged me for it. Stopped going after that.


So, given that this is FRAUD, I presume that consumer protection laws here in America have degraded to the point that companies can basically get away with breaking the law whenever they want?

So why are they still bothering with "customers", and not simply raiding local villages for slaves?
 
2013-08-21 10:08:02 PM

downstairs: Delivery
Via Reddit user JamesW89:
"I work for a UPS store. Here is a few things I have learned since working here...
 Writing fragile on your package means nothing.
 Your package WILL get thrown around, dropped, and beaten up; if it is breakable then according to our guidelines for properly packaged items it needs to withstand 1000lbs of pressure and a 4ft drop.
 UPS capital claims is terrible as well they will do whatever they can to not pay you the amount you insure your package for."

A few things with this, mostly anecdotal.  My UPS guy is very respectful, even as far as putting a plastic bag over our delivery if he has to throw it over the fence in the rain.


Back when I lived in CA, it was totally routine for UPS guys to leave a "final notice" on my door on the first delivery attempt without even bothering to knock, forcing me to go to the UPS office in person to pick up my package. I'd go out of my way to work from home on days I knew a delivery was coming, but the same thing would happen. Even when I started taping a note to my door that said "UPS: I AM HOME, PLEASE KNOCK," they'd pull the same shiat and claim they had knocked when I complained.

Here in Austin, I had one delivery driver who refused to actually pull into the parking lot "because the trees will tear up the roof." (I'd seen other UPS and FedEx drivers go all the way to the back of the lot on numerous occasions with no problem.) She came and knocked on my door and asked me to drive down to the entrance and help her put my package in my car because it was too heavy for her to carry. I wondered how the hell a cheap PC case was that heavy, but I did drive down there... and when she reached for the package in the truck she said "Oh, this isn't heavy at all!" She apparently hadn't even tried to pick it up until then.

In my current apartment at the far north end of Austin, I ordered a futon mattress that was supposed to be delivered by UPS. I'd been sleeping on a leaky air mattress for three weeks, so I was pretty keen to get it. I left work early so I'd be there to receive it (and help get it up the stairs if necessary), and after a couple of hours I looked online and saw it had supposedly been delivered. I looked out the door. No futon. I called UPS and they told me that the apartment number was missing from the package and they "couldn't get through to me on the phone" (I had my phone with me, it was turned on, and I had received no calls -- and why the fark didn't they just ask at the rental office?) so they delivered it to the address they "had on file" for me, even though it bore zero resemblance to the address on the package.

It was, in fact, my previous address. In South Austin. In a lousy neighborhood. And it was pouring down rain. And they "couldn't" send the driver back for it because he was already on his way back to the warehouse. But maybe they could send someone back for it the next day (when it would undoubtedly have been taken inside and the new tenants would be at work). Only they couldn't promise it would be delivered the next day. Maybe in two or three days, if they could manage to get it on a truck. And rush hour was just starting, and my chances of getting there before the new tenants arrived and decided it was theirs were not good.

I sat in traffic for an hour and a half and was lucky to get there before the new tenants got home. I was lucky that the heavy rain hadn't turned the box it was in to mush. I was lucky that I was able to manhandle it into my two-door coupe before anyone called the cops to say I was stealing a package. I got home, managed to drag it out of the car, and realized there was absolutely no way I could possibly get it up the stairs to my apartment singlehanded. I'd just moved into the new building and didn't know any of my neighbors. I didn't have any local friends. Ten years ago maybe I could have managed it, but that was before the fibromyalgia got really bad.

I was lucky that while I was pathetically carrying the thing three feet at a time and then dropping it because I couldn't hang on anymore, some guy I'd never seen before approached me and asked if I needed help. By that time I was so furious, miserable, and exhausted that I decided it would be worth potentially getting raped to have something comfortable to sleep on, so I accepted his help and the two of us managed to haul the rapidly disintegrating box up two flights of stairs to my balcony. I offered him a beer for his troubles but he said he needed to finish unloading his car, and I had to apologize because I was way beyond being any use on that front.

I wrote a truly scathing letter to UPS describing my experience, but I never got any response. And that is why I will never, ever use UPS again.

Why, yes, I do hate UPS with the burning heat of 1000 suns. Why do you ask?
 
2013-08-22 01:12:32 AM

ialdabaoth: MechaPyx: Jiffy Lube is terrible. I shouldn't have to go behind what's supposed to be a professional company and check someone's work like it was grade school or something. I used to go there years and years ago before I knew better. They kept 'forgetting' things though. Sometimes they'd forget to tighten something back down or properly reattach it. Once I found they hadn't changed the filters even though they'd charged me for it. Stopped going after that.

So, given that this is FRAUD, I presume that consumer protection laws here in America have degraded to the point that companies can basically get away with breaking the law whenever they want?

So why are they still bothering with "customers", and not simply raiding local villages for slaves?


And it's not just one Jiffy Lube either. This is par for the course for them.
 
2013-08-22 03:55:34 AM

Gabrielmot: I've actually pointed this one out before.. I caught Jiffy Lube pretending to have changed my oil and other fluids years ago:

At a national chain like Jiffy Lube, there's going to be a huge variety in management and the level of service. However, according to, who claims to be a former manager, half of the services offered or charged for don't even get completed.

Suck it Jiffy Lube.


I spent a year delivering car parts for CQ, and the best thing I took from that job was which local mechanics were honest and did good work. My oil change costs a bit more but I know they're using higher quality stuff and doing the work right. They're pretty spiffy for a '& Son' kind of place.
 
2013-08-22 06:40:03 AM
Information like that is worth it's weight in gold.
 
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