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(Fox News)   Officials at Denver University decide to retire their mascot--which is not Daniel Boone and doesn't look like Daniel Boone--so as not to offend people who think it is Daniel Boone. FARK: There are people offended by Daniel Boone   (foxnews.com) divider line 31
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2013-08-21 01:27:57 AM  
4 votes:

JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.


95% of the native Americans who died never saw a white man, disease spread far faster than settlers.  The first white men found huge empty cities in the Mississippi region.  Even if Europeans had come with the best intentions, most of the natives were doomed.
2013-08-20 10:02:46 PM  
4 votes:
How is this offensive? I think the Womyn's Studies Department got its hemp panties in a bunch.
2013-08-21 02:35:11 AM  
3 votes:
daniel boones major crime is being a successful and famous white man in history. It makes the do nothing feminist/persons of color feel inferior and we cant have that.
2013-08-21 01:36:46 AM  
3 votes:
"Later, his image and legend fell victim to revisionist ACTUAL history as he became associated with the forceful displacement of Native Americans from their land."

fark you fox news.
2013-08-21 09:11:26 AM  
2 votes:
Political correctness run amok.
School officials won't even tell the truth about how popular the Denver Boone mascot is with students, in fact they fear putting him on a real ballot for the students to vote on.    A fictitious caricature is being railroaded out of consideration over the probably fictitious crimes committed by another historically inaccurate yet supposed look alike.  The DU "Pioneers", seemingly can't have a mascot that would resemble a pioneer, how moronic?

The ray of hope;  this is a liberal campus overly sensitive to political correctness yet even these students have been able to see that unnecessary bullshait is making the university look very stupid.

~ Father of a recent grad.
2013-08-21 06:29:08 AM  
2 votes:
Daniel Boone was a man,
Yes, a big man!
With an eye like an eagle
And as tall as a mountain was he!

Daniel Boone was a man,
Yes, a big man!
He was brave, he was fearless
And as tough as a mighty oak tree!

From the coonskin cap on the top of ol' Dan
To the heel of his rawhide shoe;
The rippin'est, roarin'est, fightin'est man
The frontier ever knew!

Daniel Boone was a man,
Yes, a big man!
And he fought for America
To make all Americans free!

What a Boone! What a doer!
What a dream come-er-true-er was he!

Daniel Boone was a man!
Yes, a big man!
With a whoop and a holler
he c'd mow down a forest of trees!

Daniel Boone was a man!
Yes, a big man!
If he frowned at a river
In July all the water would freeze!

But a peaceable, pioneer fella was Dan
When he smiled all the ice would thaw!
The singin'est, laughin'est, happiest man
The frontier ever saw!

Daniel Boone was a man!
Yes, a big man!
With a dream of a country that'd
Always forever be free!

What a Boone! What a do-er!
What a dream-come-er-true-er was he!
2013-08-21 01:32:13 AM  
2 votes:
"University officials also claim that Boone was not up for consideration because of a consensus by the student body that it wanted an entirely new mascot - despite numerous Facebook postings to the contrary."

Numerous Facebook postings? Well, that's a refudiation right there....
2013-08-21 01:22:38 AM  
2 votes:
As a white man of American woodsman hillpeople descent, I am offended they retired this great mascot.

OFFENDED.  Now cater to me to make me feel less offended.  give me stuff.  I dont get to be offended very often.
2013-08-21 01:19:57 AM  
2 votes:

JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.


The myth of the noble savage is alive and well in academia.
2013-08-21 01:17:54 AM  
2 votes:
I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.
2013-08-21 12:33:41 AM  
2 votes:
What's amazing to me is that Fox News has so little actual news to worry about that they are reduced to trying to gin up poutrage that some unknown small college changed its mascot 15 years ago.

Nice work, GOP-TV, I'm sure Reagan would be proud.
2013-08-20 10:02:02 PM  
2 votes:
Gads, people need to Get A GRIP.
2013-08-21 02:22:16 PM  
1 votes:

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: They're saying 'Boooooone!'


Is this one of them?
s7.postimg.org
/Obscure?
2013-08-21 08:17:36 AM  
1 votes:

Richard C Stanford: Highroller48: JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.

CULTURALLY unsophisticated? Ummm, no.

They were out-gunned, yes. They were susceptible to being victimized by a capitalism they had never encountered, and they were totally unprepared for the effect that europeanization of the territory would have on their way of life.

Culturally, however, they may have been very different but certainly they were no less sophisticated. Indeed, if one judges a culture by its social conscience, harmony with its living environment and equality of living standards across its demographics, they were way ahead of any of the Euro-Trash that paddled across the Pond to settle the "new" world.

Harmony with nature? Bull$#*+! The Native Americans cut down as many trees as the Europeans. They practiced slash and burn farming. It wasn't like they were dancing around with a buch of widdle forest creatures.


The native peoples of North America have been just as romanticized as the Europeans who migrated here.  All of the genocide, slavery, and horrible treatment of women has been swept under the rug.
2013-08-21 08:03:45 AM  
1 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: Fano: Persnickety: Fano: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.

The myth of the noble savage is alive and well in academia.

One of the most pernicious lies ever foisted upon us. i say we change to this Hans Sprungfeld fellow, he seems much more honest.

Actually, I'd go with American Exceptionalism as the biggest lie ever told, and still being told and believed today.  Yes sir.  We licked those hoidy toidy British, backwards natives and evil Nazis because we're just so gosh darn freakin' awesome.

Yes, but The Noble Savage infested all of western CIv with the notion that impoverished natives the world over are wise and better morally than anything else.

Let's ask the nice people of easter island how in tune with the environment they were.

Or the Mayans, Anazazi, Mississippians


I just love how your getting your talking points about academic bias towards Native Americans from forty years ago. The "Myth of the Noble Savage" as a valid historical framework died hard in the 1990s because it *was just as racist* as calling them culturally barbarous and naturally displaced by a more advanced and pious people. A more recent framework, to use broad terms for a incredible diverse collection of societies who were only loosely interconnected, has them as a people who were politically and socially quite advanced but had been held back technologically by the very abundance of the environment they had found themselves in. Which is why the more technologically advanced societies in the New World (Aztecs, Inca, Mayan) tended to cluster in the harsher environments of Central and South America. They were also victims of incredibly bad timing and unintentional (mostly) biological warfare. They also, like most humans, tended to push their local environments to population limits, kill each other, and seek advantage where possible. And in the short term, associating with the Europeans was a hell of an advantage. There was just an *incredible* disconnect in cultural and property norms between the two peoples and on the Native America side as inability to fathom just how many Europeans there actually were.

/ Even then, prior to 1650 it might have been possible to cast the English and French off of North America, and was nearly done on a couple of occasions.
// Partially because North America had yet to really start to be profitable to England, and barely so to France (compared to the Sugar Colonies)
/// There is some record that when Pocahontas' uncle was taken to England for a tour / to be shown off, that after his return he told his brother something to effect of "These are not the few hungry people looking for a small bit of land that they seem. There are endless numbers of them, if we don't drive them off now we are doomed."
2013-08-21 07:54:50 AM  
1 votes:

Highroller48: JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.

CULTURALLY unsophisticated? Ummm, no.

They were out-gunned, yes. They were susceptible to being victimized by a capitalism they had never encountered, and they were totally unprepared for the effect that europeanization of the territory would have on their way of life.

Culturally, however, they may have been very different but certainly they were no less sophisticated. Indeed, if one judges a culture by its social conscience, harmony with its living environment and equality of living standards across its demographics, they were way ahead of any of the Euro-Trash that paddled across the Pond to settle the "new" world.


Harmony with nature? Bull$#*+! The Native Americans cut down as many trees as the Europeans. They practiced slash and burn farming. It wasn't like they were dancing around with a buch of widdle forest creatures.
2013-08-21 06:58:34 AM  
1 votes:

RY28: He's my great great great uncle ...or somethong like that .


Howdy, Cousin!
2013-08-21 04:14:20 AM  
1 votes:

Highroller48: JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.

CULTURALLY unsophisticated? Ummm, no.

They were out-gunned, yes. They were susceptible to being victimized by a capitalism they had never encountered, and they were totally unprepared for the effect that europeanization of the territory would have on their way of life.

Culturally, however, they may have been very different but certainly they were no less sophisticated. Indeed, if one judges a culture by its social conscience, harmony with its living environment and equality of living standards across its demographics, they were way ahead of any of the Euro-Trash that paddled across the Pond to settle the "new" world.


Never encountering profit motive is a huge myth, my friend.   You also might want to do some research on equality across demographics.  They tended to kill people from other tribal demographics
2013-08-21 02:33:00 AM  
1 votes:
Highroller48:


Culturally, however, they may have been very different but certainly they were no less sophisticated. Indeed, if one judges a culture by its social conscience, harmony with its living environment and equality of living standards across its demographics, they were way ahead of any of the Euro-Trash that paddled across the Pond to settle the "new" world.

It's amazing what a homogenous group of individuals can accomplish.
2013-08-21 01:45:54 AM  
1 votes:
FloydA must not be a college hockey fan. DU is a premier hockey school.
2013-08-21 01:38:21 AM  
1 votes:
Daniel Boone was anti-slavery, and did a lot to convince the politicians of his day to treat the Indians fairly (or what passed for fairly back then). Also, his sister was my something-great grandmother. (Legit, my grandmother spent her 20 year retirement doing a genealogy at a level of detail that would give ancestry.com the shiats. I don't know how many greats because I can't be arsed to go downstairs and look it up.) I don't think he wore a coon-skin cap. I thought that was Crocket, that asshole.
2013-08-21 01:37:00 AM  
1 votes:

JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.


Genocide is painless.  It brings on many changes.  And I can take or leave it if I please.
2013-08-21 01:27:00 AM  
1 votes:

JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.


CULTURALLY unsophisticated? Ummm, no.

They were out-gunned, yes. They were susceptible to being victimized by a capitalism they had never encountered, and they were totally unprepared for the effect that europeanization of the territory would have on their way of life.

Culturally, however, they may have been very different but certainly they were no less sophisticated. Indeed, if one judges a culture by its social conscience, harmony with its living environment and equality of living standards across its demographics, they were way ahead of any of the Euro-Trash that paddled across the Pond to settle the "new" world.
2013-08-21 01:23:14 AM  
1 votes:
Best not to exclude anyone. Or offend anyone. Even theoretical anyones.

25.media.tumblr.com
2013-08-21 01:11:58 AM  
1 votes:

FloydA: What's amazing to me is that Fox News has so little actual news to worry about that they are reduced to trying to gin up poutrage that some unknown small college changed its mascot 15 years ago.

Nice work, GOP-TV, I'm sure Reagan would be proud.


UD is far from some small unknown college.  And the reason why it is news now is because of the new decision to introduce a new mascot despite the student body wanting this character back.
2013-08-21 01:09:58 AM  
1 votes:

KarmicDisaster: Daniel Boone was a man. He was a BIIIIIIG man.


But the bear was bigger so he ran like an attractive and successful african-american up a tree
2013-08-21 12:10:00 AM  
1 votes:
Daniel Boone was a man. He was a BIIIIIIG man.
2013-08-21 12:03:56 AM  
1 votes:

timujin: Highroller48: Daniel Boone was a goon. He was an asshole.

What'd he do that made him an asshole?

/not being defensive, actually curious and I'd like to get your take rather than what Wikipedia or other sources might say


That's it. Next time I go with my gut and risk being mocked for the "/obscure" slashy.
2013-08-20 11:41:20 PM  
1 votes:
I heard in my Intro to Social Issues class that Daniel Boone once raped a black woman and ate the baby.
2013-08-20 10:45:41 PM  
1 votes:
Daniel Boone was a goon. He was an asshole.
2013-08-20 09:37:09 PM  
1 votes:
What does Daniel Boone have to do with the history of Colorado? Why does a coonskin hat automatically signal Daniel Boone?

/yeah, yeah, blame Disney.
 
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